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I am not asking about your individual experience in particular relationshps in the past. I want to know what you think about the girls who are available in the dating pool. To what extent do you think that a guy's income is a factor in a girl's decision to date him?
Let just make it very clear once and for all. And most men that are older or mature or are 40 years and above will agree with me, fully on this.
Among women, it is the ones in their thirties, that will look at a man's finances as a deciding factor to be with the man. All the other age groups of women don't focus on the financial aspects. If you are dating a woman in her 20s, or in her 40s and 50s and what not, your finances are not really that much of an issue.
When dating a woman in her 30s, bro, bro. You better watch out. Your finances are at the top of her decision making. And that is why women in their thirties cannot compete with women in their 20s or even 40s.
People don't realise this but women in their 40s are getting laid way more than women in their 30s. Believe it or not. And women in their twenties, we don't even need to have that discussion. They are getting laid left and right.
The problem is that women have a higher chance of getting married in their 20s than any other age. But not many women realise this until it is too late. Now once a woman gets to her 30s they begin to try and cathcthat husband. Unfortunately now they focus on all the wrong things until they get to 40. At 40 it is way too late and now they don't give a shit. They just roll back into their behaviour of the 20s. He'll some become cougars looking at younger men as a good meal.
All in all, women in their thirties are as confused as hell. And women in their twenties have no clue about the time that is ticking on them. Women in their forties have come to terms with reality and don't give a shit any more.
Do you think this happens because femaes in their 30s are hearing the clock ticking, wanting to have a baby or two, and wanting a man who can support her at home?
When a woman is in her twenties, she will happily marry a man with potential and ambition and is doing his best to achieve it. Once a woman clock's thirty, she wants something already made. She doesn't tolerate potential. Unfortunately by doing that, they shrink their dating pool to such a small number, to the point where, by the time they hit the wall, it's too late.
That is why a woman who marries in her twenties, is more likely to be happy in her marriage than a woman who married in her thirties.
Because guess what? A man who is already made will value the woman less than man who made it while the woman was by her side. Because the woman had an input to where he is now.
And yes, the clock is ticking for women in their thirties but they still focus on the wrong things because they are told to not go for potential but rather a man who already has their shit together. Guess what a man like that is in his 40s and 50s and most are no longer dating to start a family. They either, already had a family, or have lost the interest in wanting to raise children. They just want to enjoy life.
If the woman wants a family down the road she will then want someone who has money or the ability to attain it so they can raise said family. If they don't want a family and just want to travel and have fun they still want a man with money so that they can do fun things.
So men... get your finances straight... either way it cost money to be with a woman.
I agree with this one. Money helps you with so many things. You both can enjoy life to the fullest and nurturing the family gets way better, so you worry less..
But still even if all that, problems will always occur... whether you are wealthy or not
@DenizLikesTennis Problems will always occur that is why you need to have money so you can plan for it. Money really does make it easier.
It depends on the girl.
A few years ago I joined Match.
As a decently attractive woman I constantly got likes & messages by guys who... to be extremely blunt... the only thing they could easily contribute to a woman's life was their wallet. Had no depth, no real character & unsurprisingly a lot of them were divorced.
Some even had the gale of mentioning how much income they made or if I enjoyed simple things - shopping like a champ as one put it - as if property to be bought.
Even at 32, with a good successful career & small business, such was extremely unappealing. I wanted a partner who would contribute to my life as I did his, who'd encourage growth & improvement for both. Saw none of this with 80% of these men.
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On the reverse, there were plenty of shallow, dimwitted women on Match (Match allows you to pick genre criteria so I did pretend to be a man looking for a woman) who would be more than happy to rob such men of their wallets & income while pretending love.
So really it depends on the women.
Most successful or self-confident women do not care.
Dimwits, achieve nothings, etc. do.
I don't care how much he has, as long as he is stable, not exceeding his debt to income ratio and works full time. I don't care what job it is. Warehouse workers, fast food, anything as long as they have good work ethics and good stability score.
Ofc money matters to some, so rich guys can always get some people but then again rich women can get some guys too.
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If the girl is looking to eventually have kids and raise a family, how much money the guy has (or at least his earning potential) is definitely an important factor.
Even if she doesn't intend to have kids, most girls don't want to struggle economically, and it can be a major factor.
In almost all cases, though, it is not the only factor a girl uses to determine if she wants to date someone. There are many other factors, physical, emotional and personality-based as well.
Since Monie💰 and it’s use are a measure of Success, Personality and Future Relational Capacity potential, women are in tuned to a man’s Money statute and capabilities.
Not only what you have but what you have not specifically reference Debt verse No Debt. Minimal or Over-the-top. Prudent or Reckless. Consistently generous heart or selfish applications only.
MONEY…. and it’s uses is where the true heart is revealed.
yeah i think for majority of women it does matter to women to some extent. that extent is just different to every woman. nonetheless i think all women care about finances for the same reason: stability. how much money you have, how you handle your money, your financial decisions… it all indicates whether you will or could provide stability for her and any potential family you may have. and i honestly think it’s a great thing to watch out for before it’s too late and you end up with someone who will leave you in a bad financial situation in the future.
I have a good job and I make more money than I need to live the way I want to live.
While I didn't necessarily cared exactly how much money a guy I was dating had, I did want to be with someone who was intelligent and ambitious. That usually correlates to someone with a good job too.
I've been happily married now for 9 years. I make roughly twice what my husband does... and don't mind it at all. I love my guy... and he loves me... we have a great life together with two awesome children... I have no complaints.
There's three things women focus on when it comes to men and dating. Ego ("confidence"), height/looks, and social status (money/career/popularity). Ego is worth 40% to them, height/looks is 30% and social status is worth 30%. Have all three and you're 100% perfect to them.
How "low" a woman is willing to go, depends on the woman, but usually anything below 60% is undateable to the majority of women. Meaning, if a guy isn't extremely confident, he'd better be at least six foot+ and good-looking, as well as successful/wealthy. If a guy is short or ugly, he'd better be at least extremely confident and successful/wealthy. If a guy isn't successful/wealthy, he'd better be at least extremely confident and at least six foot+ and good-looking.
You can lack one, but without the other two, you are completely SOL with women. So my answer is somewhere between options D and F.
I think it depends on how much she understands economics. You'll see videos pop up all the time these days where the guy asks 100 girls how much money they want him to make a year. And their answers are CRAZY! They throw out 150k, 300k, and even higher than that. So I think the ones that care about 100k and up (especially when they're younger and still in college) don't have a grasp of how much a real life salary is. If they knew that a majority of men start off making less than 80k a year, then they might not have such impossible expectations.
The general consensus is that a guy needs to have enough money to take care of himself well and be independent. That's the minimum for a guy to go anywhere.
Shared house with a buddy? You're out. Living with your parents. Yeah, you're out.
The second part is that women tend to prefer men who can enhance their lives. Generally, richer than them in some way. Either in income or net worth or connections or in political power.
This is an actual combination in a lot of power couples. girlfriend or wife being the main money maker while the boyfriend or husband has strong connection and power to bend a few rules here and there to smooth out the business.
All true well said.
Money is a mostly a factor for women planning to be housewives at a certain point in their lives.
If a woman has a stable job then its not that much of a factor however... unless ur planning to be a fulltime househusband and look after all the kids she is probably expecting you to financial contribute to the family along with her. Whoever earns less or has the easier job does more housework I guess.
Why should the partner who earns less do more housework?
Well if ur job is easier to do then its only more efficient for u to take up the housework over the person who is already overworked.
However, lets just say, if both of u are working and can afford housekeepers that would not be a problem but...
Let's just say... Why would u expect the other person in the relationship to provide more financially and also do all the chores? Do u want them to burn out?
1. The fact that someone earns less money doesn't mean their job is easy.
2. If they are both working 40 hours per week, then they are making an equal contribution.
3. If we both contrbute equally to the chores at home, then they are done sooner and we have more time for leisure activities.
Woman are hypergamous. It doesn’t have to be money. The male just has to be percieved as better than her and better than she deserves. The more she thinks of herself, the more the male needs to bring to the table, including money, sexual potential, good looks, ambition, etc. One of the biggest mistakes a male can make is to put his female companion up on a pedestal. She will quickly lose respect. Its better to pretend to be equal, but keep that upper hand, just enough. That keeps her interested.
Just to add, if you are insecure about money, that will come across. You can get with a girl that is interested in you, but wouldn’t otherwise date you unless you have money, just be ambitious, have a plan, etc. You don’t have to succeed right away. She just needs to know you are going to and that if she sticks around, she will be rich too. LOL. It sounds terrible but it isn’t as bad as it sounds. Woman only have their sexual currency to bring to the table for a limited amount of time and need to land a male before they hit the wall. I told my kids to find a pretty one, sure, but make sure you are compatible enough to have long conversations and happiness from that cause she will eventually look like her mother. That is almost always a bad thing, but not always.
Well said.
Gotta be able to show you're mature and can take care of yourself and that means take care of yourself financially. It's more important that he makes enough to support himself and not be a bum and that he has a good personality and I connect with him.
All else equal it'll definitely help. If girls hear about you before meeting you and know you have a good job it's something that makes them want to meet you and see what you're like. It'll also have them start out with a more favorable impression.
I'd imagine it'd be like if I was being set up on a date with a girl and I asked "so what does she do?" and the response was "she's a model for huge cup, small back-size bras and bikinis." I'd DEFINITELY want to meet her and I'd go in with a positive view.
In my experiences traveling North America, like minds attract. Girls that are Stanford grads... well, if you're some Section 8 baby daddy... you better PROTECT DA NUTZ... because if you try to get near her, mash the balls and mace the face!😳😳😳 She's going to go for guys comparable to her background. Same for trailer trash baby mama, weed smoking, food stamp collecting fat asses... they get the twice ex con, Wal Mart shopping, bail money needing, wannabe gangsta, no child support paying douchebags. Why? Because no guy out of Duke wants them in his zip code. So people from similar backgrounds usually attract for the long term.
It is age related. If I meet a boy, if he can by a coke and a hamburger, I am not interested his money because, even if he has, money, he will not give it to me. Therefore, the most important thing is how hot and athletic he is. Regardless, of how much money he and/or his family has, if he is not good looking, I am not interested.
Now, if I was 30, and especially if I had children, his money would be the most important thing.
women actually aren't as obsessed about money as guys on here like to exaggerate. just don't make minimum wage, then you should be able to get a girl. you really do not need to be rich or have multiple properties or have a huge bank account. there are plenty of guys who make 50k a year who are happily married with children.
⬆️ This.
Society tends to exaggerate what men and women think of the other gender. And life experiences and narratives are the reasons men and women think differently. And so this isn't really about what women think of men. This is about what men think women think of them. And vice versa.
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Guys on here love overexagerating about how women are obsessed with a mans income because its their way of avoiding the reality that they can't get women NOT because they dont have enough money but because they simply lack personality and character.
Truth is, vast majority of men in the US are not rich. If women only wanted rich men, no woman would be getting married or having babies
It's extremely important and a necessary condition for men to get love but not sufficient. I will not shame anyone based on their personal choice but by stating my observations. In high school and college always saw guys with money were very popular among women, they can buy cooler accessories, more fancy clothes, have cars, and invest in their looks which also improved their overall charisma.
I am from a poor background but very smart, kinda nerdy, and in grad school. I don't make much money, guys similar to my age make much so they are more attractive to women.
I am not a bum, I have many other qualities and talents in various sections, including cooking, writing, and music stuff but they were never enough. As a guy, your other characters do matter as well as your looks but you must have money. If you don't have you can be way mature but the women will always see you as immature.
Money isn't everything that a woman wants from a man. You have to be tall and handsome and a personality that makes her see you as a desirable person whether good or bad. Money can only go so far and when it runs out then you have nothing left.
It's about 33% of what they look for in a man. The other 66% are 6 pack abs and 6ft or taller. If you have all 3 or the mark of the beast. 6 pack abs 6ft tall 6figure income. You could literally be a child molester and women will still fawn all over you.
In the early stages of pursuing someone, money is the least important factor, and looks is the most important factor. I earn quite a lot, so as long as he isn't lazy or too dependant, I'm pretty good
I personally dont think its a money issue. But I can't speak for all other women. I think being a hard worker, having a good, stable job, or at least being ambitious towards achieving a dream, is most important. Because the money will come.
Hue Hefner was old, gross and had a terrible personality, but he banged 3 beautiful women every night because he had money. That should tell you everything you need to know about women and money.
Regardless of all the politically correct messages to the contrary, ultimately a man's income is his primary value to women. That's not to say every woman expects a rich guy, but if he doesn't make good money he's a low value man in women's eyes. That's really the bottom line.
i think it really depends on the age of the girl. if she's not like at an age where marriage & kids are like a thing yet i dont think money is that important at all
It certainly doesn’t hurt, but most women don’t care that much, once they get out into the working world and see how hard it is to make money. That whole “six figure men only” thing doesn’t usually survive the later 20s.
This is why we need to bring courtship back. I hate my own generation. Everyone my age group and by that I mean 28 age and over see everything as competition.
Right from the get go the first thing a girl will ask you is what you work as and your level of education and from that she will calculate your potential yearly salary over the next 10-20 years. The amount you make will determine your future together, everything to the cost of her engagement ring (3-1 year salary), to the home you live in, to how many holidays you take and where to howvmuch alimony and child support you can afford.
Money make ALL the difference in the world. How about this, 1. Looks 2. Money 3. Personally in this particular order.
i would agree with your order
This obsession with money is ridiculous. When I met my husband, he was unemployed. Money means nothing if you are truly attracted to someone.
Unfortunately not everybody thinks like you. Your husband is a lucky guy and I hope that he's a great husband!
Depends on the woman you are going for. For most women, ambition, frugality and financial responsibility is way more important than just annual income.
With the right woman, you just need to at least have a job and be independent as an adult.
With the wrong woman she will be counting your pockets, totally not worth it.
You just will be wasting your time with a swindler.
Well if I’m a cop making 60,000 yearly. I’d want me another cop or someone who makes around the same. A manager or something alike. But if I wanted kids maybe a little more than 50 or 60.
"A" - that's the only thing they have in their noggins. The more money you have, the more handsome you become automatically, even if you look like Chumbucket from "Mad Max".
As long as he has a job and doesn't ask me for money I'm okay with it.
Money is the only factor in a girl's decision. If you have a ton of cash, you can be ugly AF and a girl will still date you
As long as you are not a bum without will to get a job, they won't care.
My wife makes more money than me. Always has.
I personally don't really care in an important way, like, I won't choose not to be with a guy just because he doesn't have much money, but I will think it's cool if he has a lot of money.
One of the great things about being able to make my own money is that I don't have to worry about whether or not the guy I'm with can financially support me. I can date/marry purely for love!
It's all of these to different girls.
E and F are both true
Yes.
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