I have no problem having casual things with those girls, but no way I'd ever get serious with one of them.
It's not about me supposedly having prejudices or insecurities towards black men since I have no problem dating black girls and they all dated a black guy at some point in their lives.
It's 100% about white women. The reason is that I'm really grossed out by white women who fetishize black men and thank god I can choose whom I'll fall in love with or not.
Because it is racist; it's discriminating on the basis of race. It's also not particularly intelligent, since black men don't have leprosy (well, MOST of them don't), and they don't twist or corrupt white women merely by dating them.
I suppose it's possible that SOME black men are evil sorcerers who twist white women's will and send them out to do their unholy bidding, like, say, "Go forth and return with flamin' hot Cheetos" (which are very popular among both black folks and evil sorcerers), but that's based on personal practices of the Dark Arts, not skin color.
You think and talk like a religious fanatic.
People can't express themselves without you getting offended and thinking that they are "blaspheming" and "attacking your values."
You can date whomever you want. So do I. And I put my intetests first. I get into a relationship aiming at my own happiness first and I have some standards. My woman being 100% into me is the first one. If you're okay with your woman liking other man, that's your problem.
No, I think and talk like a rational human being: you asked whether a racist action was racist; I answered "yes". Then I explained why: you are imputing attributes to an entire ethnic group with no more in common than skin color, which is the dictionary definition of "racism".
I don't know why you think I even *am* offended, let alone why you think I felt compelled to object; you're the one who asked the question in the first place. Nor did I accuse you of blasphemy, or "attacking" anything.
You, too, can date whoever you want- and misuse grammar however you want- but if you honestly think any woman you date has never been attracted to another man, then you're indulging in a level of self-delusion I can't reach.
There's nothing logical in people who are overly religious or political like you.
You think your ideology has the answer to every question in human life and this is itself not a rational mindset, which also explains why your answer was bollocks. You just showed how butthurt you get whenever you see people who don't follow your mantras.
If I were racist, I wouldn't date black women, so skin color is not really the case here. I pointed out that I'm grossed out by *white women* who fetishize black men, I'm not grossed out by black people. But it doesn't matter to a political extremist anyway, you use your zealotry in an attempt to overcompensate for the irrelevant beings you are in real life.
This is really racist whether you believe it or not.
Not all white women date black men because they fetishize them, and unless they were open about that aspect then you’d just be assuming off the bat that this is the case and that’s the uncool part. I have white female friends and even 2 in-laws that just aren’t picky when it comes to men, and it just happens to be a black one they wound up with.
I know I assume things about them and act in those assumptions. That can be unfortunate, but it is what it is, I'm not going to change it.
No ones telling you to change it, you’re a grown man. I’m just saying why it’s wrong for you to be that way and cast broad assumptions. Just like I can say it’s wrong and illegal to steal from the store, I’m not saying you can’t do it.
We all make assumptions when we're choosing a partner.
Would you date an overly religious guy who is always preaching about Jesus or Allah?
He could be your soul mate and the most caring, loving and compassionate man you've ever met, doesn't he?
Would you still give him a chance?
I don't know if that’s the best comparison. Choosing not to date a woman because you assume she fetishizes black men is no where near choosing whether or not to date someone because they’re deeply religious and You’re not. A great reason why that won’t work is because usually Muslim men/women won’t get serious with someone who isn’t of the same faith, even if they aren’t that deep into it usually their family or even just their parents are. So how could you date someone from that background when you know they’d never marry you unless one of you convert?
"Choosing not to date a woman because you assume she fetishizes black men is no where near choosing whether or not to date someone because they’re deeply religious and You’re not."
Why? I mean, in theory both of them could be great partners, right? In theory, there wouldn't be a valid reason for a girl to exclude an overly religious man from her dating pool right off the bat either.
But girls do. And wisely so as overly religious men tend to be sexist and too uptight about everything.
I don't deny I make assumptions about white women who date black men. I assume they have a fetish and can only have a relationship of convenience with a non-black guy. That's my perception of them. I saw it happen with some guys and I don't wanna be in their place so I'm 100% against letting myself develop feelings for this particular kind of woman. Demanding me to accept a girl like that is like demanding a girl to date (or be open to) an overly religious guy.
But that’s the thing, I wouldn’t exclude an Arab man from the dating pool right off the bat, because I’m not going to assume he’s deeply religious. Not every Arab is Muslim. The exclusion would happen if I learn that he is deeply religious, because I know that at the end of the day he’d never marry me since I’m not of that faith. I’d be a space holder at best until he’s either arranged for marriage or finds someone on his own. So even if he’s a great partner, what future could we have? You on the other hand may have fun or fill your time with a white woman who dated a black guy, but you’d never get serious (which you stated yourself) because you assume she fetishized that man. If you didn’t assume, then why refuse to take her serious?
Also to be clear again, I never said you have to do anything. There are no demands, so please stop suggesting this is my narrative.
I make that assumption because there is a considerable chance that a girl like that is seeking to have a relationship of convenience. I don't see how a relationship of convenience could rock my world, so I have no interest in it.
In my mind, it's way less complicated when a girl like that goes for black men and I go for girls who like white men.
You make your assumption based off what you’ve witnessed other men go through. So you’d rather play it safe and not date a woman who’s dated a black man at all. You can live how you want and if that route brings you peace of mind then that’s fine, but my guess is that you aren’t very vocal about this though, if at all. You may not even have any black male friends, and if you do then they don’t know about this, because how would that sound? “I don’t date white women who date black men”, they’d be like wtf? Same with black women, which is why you probably haven’t dated any and if you have then they do not know about this side of you. I know I’d never date you once I learned that, because it’s highly offensive and you’re oblivious to that aspect. You just move in silence, choosing not to be open about it. That doesn’t sound like a man who’s proud of his logic, and instead need some justification and reassurance, which led you to here, writing this question. You reject everyone telling you that it’s wrong or racist, rather than recognize what it is, owning it, and moving on.
"You may not even have any black male friends [...] Same with black women, which is why you probably haven’t dated any."
On the contrary. I have lots of black male friends... How do you think I get to know what white woman is into black men or not? 😂
They tell me, of course. So I avoid those ones, or just avoid letting things go serious with them.
The same with black women. My bestie is a black girl, I dated black girls before (I don't fetishize black girls, though). I have no problem with black, I'm just grossed out by *white women* who fetishize black men.
But you're right when ypu said I might not be vocal about my preference. I'm not indeed. It would bring me too much unnecessary drama otherwise.
That’s why I said if you do then they don’t know about this side of you. Your friend may not know, or the black women you dated. Because you know how offensive that sounds, otherwise you’d be vocal, dramatic or not. You’re projecting a racist stereotype, even if you don’t feel like you are one yourself. Having black friends and girlfriends require having a certain level of fact, understanding, and awareness. Saying you won’t date a woman because she dated men who look like your friends is messed up.
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I treat my friends - black or not - with respect and empathy because they're my friends after all. What more should I do? Isn't that good enough?
Oh, I don't get serious with a particular kind of girl who might not like my skin color... How evil of me! 😩
That's the problem with us Americans. We tend to make a fuss over minor things at the same time we completely ignore the real evil that exists around us.
Our ancestors preached about "freedom" at the same time they killed the indigenous population and enslaved Africans. Today we support a murderous apartheid regime in the Middle East (Israel), our military killed millions all across the world while robbing their countries of their wealth, but it's a guy who only dates girls who actually have chemistry with him the real problem in this country!
Watering down your original statement to validate your talking point doesn’t work in your favor lol. If you were just talking about trying to choose girls that you have chemistry with, we wouldn’t be having this conversation and this question wouldn’t exist. It’s you specifically choosing not to date white women who have dated black men, then trying to justify it with “well I have black friends, and I’d date black women”, why is that always the trade off for people like you? Having friends of color doesn’t make you exempt of accountability for an insensitive narrative. It should actually make you more aware of any harmful stereotype you could perpetuate. It’s so silly of you to say “oh I don’t get serious with a particular kind of girl who might not like my skin color” because wth are you talking about? This is not about a woman’s views towards you, it’s you categorizing her as some fetishizing weirdo simply based off her dating a black man alone. It makes sense in your mind, but would you verbally express that to your friends of color? Probably not without tweaking it for the sake of this “respect and empathy” you claim to have.
You're proving my point about the mindset of the average American person. This is an ocean of mediocrity, so of course it's expected that people like you make a fuss over irrelevant issues and do nothing to make our society actually better. It doesn't demand too much effort for you to show off your fake morals and look like a good person, right?
How isn't my standard related to chemistry?
I don't get serious with that kind of girl precisely because I don't think there could be chemistry between us, since there's a considerable chance of her liking men of another race more or even not liking my skin color at all.
I can overlook a lot of things in a relationship, but lack of chemistry is not one of them. I can't stand lack of chemistry. I have no interest in being in a relationship of convenience.
If a girl doesn't like my skin color, I have no problem finding one who likes it. Not just a girl who thinks that "I'm attractive, despite being white."
You’re talking about the average American person, I’m not. Because I have no interest in fueling random topics outside of the one we are discussing. I’m gonna stick with the foundation of this conversation is, which is that you purposely choosing not to date a white woman IF she dated a black men because you assume she fetishizes them. You base your standard on her past, not on the genuine connection. I don’t need to look good or bad, it just is what it is. I’m not turning down a guy because he chose to date a certain race, that’s you. So if in your eyes I’m pretending to be some sort of saint for disagreeing with how you choose to date (which you openly invited opinions on, mind you) then I guess thats that lol. If you feel like women who are white just conveniently date you until they find a black man then have at it, I just think it’s ridiculous, insensitive and ignorant. You’re proud of it right? Then un-anonymize the question, and inform your black friends, verbatim, that you won’t date white women if they dated a black man.
You know a thing?
You're right about everything you said. 100% right. You're absolutely not average but an extremely special and unique person whose values are what everyone needs to be righteous, empathetic and fair in life. You're so unique that no white woman thinks like you! I've never seen white women like you before!
It's totally irrational on my part that I wouldn't get serious with a white girl who might have a fetish for black men. Yes, I've seen other white guys date girls like that and get trapped in an unhappy relationship of convenience, but I'm so much better than them!
Of course if I give a girl like that all the love in the world, crazy orgasms, emotional support and every other things a woman needs, she will start to find my skin color super attractive, have a positive opinion about white men and develop a mad intense chemistry with me, despite the fact that I don't have the skin tone she likes.
She will *NEVER* creep me out with comments like "I love black men, but my boyfriend is white and that's okay" or "my boyfriend is white, but black from the waist down" or "my boyfriend is white, but he's so cute, OMG."
I'll only find happiness in a relationship like that!
“You're right about everything you said. 100% right. You're absolutely not average but an extremely special and unique person whose values are what everyone needs to be righteous, empathetic and fair in life.”
Thanks, I appreciate you acknowledging your wrongs, I know it’s not easy. But hopefully you can figure out how to be a better person going forward ❤️
Also, I’m not white 😌
I wouldn't call it racism
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It's discriminating against a race in general, and makes no sense what's so ever, honestly you sound stupid in my opinion, and how anyone would want to date your judgmental ass to begin with is literally boggling my mind, you'll fuck and date black women that have fucked both black men and white men, but won't be with a white women that's been with a black man! Yup makes a lot of sense! Maybe your not racist, but tell me this what the fuck is your issue with black men? Clearly they're who bother you since you won't touch a white women who've been with them! So wtf is the issue with them! Be honest!
Well, if I had a problem with black men, if I believed that a woman becomes disgusting after being with them, then I wouldn't have dated black women who obviously dated black men before dating me, don't you think, you genius? Miss Einstein?
My problem is 100% with the white women who fetishize them. I wouldn't say it's even a problem, since I'm not forbidding them from anything. I'm just saying that casual sex is the most serious thing that I can have with a white woman like that. Period.
Because it is racist and sexist to... racism is defined as prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism by an individual, community, or institution against a person or people on the basis of their membership in a particular racial or ethnic group, typically one that is a minority or marginalized.
Racism at worst bigotry at best.
There is also dating and fetishizing someone are not synonymous.
Oh, another political fanatic showed up. Can you live your pathetic lives without trying to force others to fit into your political cult?
I mean, are you so narcissistic that you think everyone who's not like you is racist and evil and etc? Who gave you that right to define people according to your whims?
You people are so funny that you say there's no racism against white people and then you come here to complain that I'm racist because I exclude acertain kind of white women from my dating pool.
I mean has your irrational obsession with "fairness" any limits?
… all I did was give you the definition of what racism is. If you don’t like it that’s your problem not mine.
You won’t date a woman who has had sex with a black guy, but it’s totally fine if she dated a white guy… but it’s totally okay if you have sex with black women and you don’t see the hypocrisy in that?
"Oh, I'm super judgmental, I unfairly judge others and OMG if you don't like it that's your problem not mine, teehee."
Yes, it's totally fine for me to date bkack women and exclude white women who like black men. I don't fetishize black women. I don't entertain racist stereotypes about black women. I don't watch porn involving black women (or any other women, porn is dehumanizing). There's not a fetish culture between white men and black women. I never thought I should "try" black women to feel what's like.
Can you white women say the same about you and black men?
So what exactly is your issue here? Dating or fetishizing? Because those two things are not synonymous.
There is not a fetish culture between white men and black women. LAMO are you serious... yes... there is... that is how it started.
I absolutely can without a shadow of a doubt.
Fetishizing. I was clear I don't date white girls who fetishize black men and you can cry me a river about it.
There's no fetish culture between white men and black women indeed. We white women don't fetishize even Asian women a tent of how you white women fetishize black men.
We are not like you.
*We white men don't fetishize even Asian women a tent of how you white women fetishize black men.
What world do you live in where men don’t fetishize women? Men fetishize virgins, Asian women, black women, red headed women, blonde women, tall women, short women, fat women, skinny women, teen agers…
In fact data shows that Asian women are the most fetishized. You’ve never heard the term yellow fever?
But to back up a step.. you’re issue is with certian races being fetishized. So then why did you say day instead of fetishize… those words are not synonymous
White women fetishize black men way lot more than we white men fetishize Asian women and I find it gross. It's an insult if you think I should accept a girl like that in my life.
According to what data?
No I’m not talking about someone who fetishizes other people I’m talking about someone who was in a relationship with darker skin
Girls like that usually only date black men and before trying to find a white man to settle down with. Black guys seem to be smart enough not to settle down with a girl who fetishizes them.
You keep changing the parameters of your question, first you say dating now you say fetishizing, which is it?
I couldn't write an entire take in my question's title. I have a problem wirh white girls who fetishize black men. I don't trust them. I don't want them in my life. I think it's ridiculous that many of them will always end up trying to landing a white guy and I don't want to be that kind of white guy. I treat them the same way black men treat them.
What's the fucking problem?
I think the issue here is that you seem to be using dating and fetishizing interchangeably. If you meant fetishizing you should have said fetishizing instead of dating.
People like you would have a problem with it anyway.
Yeah I absolutely think that fetishizing a race is wrong. There is nothing wrong with dating someone because you like them though
Is @subarugirl still alive?
It's not. Its mostly due to extreme insecurities. Because while a BBC was all up and down her whole body... your miniature sausage couldn't do half the work. I understand. Learn other things
You should stop watching porn and get a job, man.
That's what it's mostly about, man.
I know it is. Other wise what you're saying is indeed racist! Just because a white girl fucked another black guy she has black germs or dna running on the side of her mouth? Its clear as day you are jealous or racist BECAUSE he rocked her world most likely and you can't even compare or come close
Jealous of a black mans dna dont hate the playa hate the game
Man, if you spent less time watching porn and more time studying basic orthography, you'd know how to spell the word "otherwise" properly.
And I'm sure you'd get a job too!
Why are you worried about my job? My job is to remain seated on your old mans face. Like at the end of the day I said what I said. It's the truth. Good day
Why am I worried about your job?
Because you have none. You're too old to live off your mother's charity.
You're still trying to hurt me cause you're hurt from the truth. Lol I get it clown
You can't hurt me. I have a job, I can pay my bills, whereas you rely on your mother for that.
Since you know it all... guess how many times I made your old man nut? Soon I'll be your step mother and make you my bitch.
You should be banned for pretending to be what you are not. And we are talking about a minority of them. Not the majority of them, you fucking low IQ moron. If you thing most white women want brown babies, you are dreaming in wonderland ffs.
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He is worried because you sound like a worthless lazy thug who is not doing anything productive with his life. Such a worthless empty void speaking his nonsensical bullshit non-stop.
Something only a low IQ groid would say. You and your people are the most useless, lazy, unintelligent species that roams the earth. You people are pathetic actually.
Not sure if it's racist, but definitely a weird preference
That's news to me. Why do you thing it's weird?
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I mean, taking into account our political climate, it's expected that some people will see my preference as racist, but weird? Can you elaborate why do you think so?
Well, why specifically black men? What about Hispanic men? Or Asian men? Indian men? Why specifically black?
Imagine you meet a gorgeous girl, a damn near perfect match to what you're physically attracted to. Perfect personality. BUT she dated a black man or 2 in the past. Would that mean you'd be disgusted enough by it that you'd pass her up?
She wouldn't be a perfect match to me if she has a fetish for black men. My skin is not black. There's no logical reason for us to be together. I think I'd be shooting myself in the foot if I allowed myself to fall in love with a woman like that.
"Well, why specifically black men? What about Hispanic men? Or Asian men? Indian men?"
Ferishes are mostly culturally-driven. How many girls do you know that fetishize Latinos/Asians/Indians in real life.
I know very few girls who fetishize Asian men because they're into KPOP or Korean dramas, but a lot of white girls who fetishize black men because of porn, politics and urban culture.
Can I ask you a question? Would you be fine with your boyfriend if he had a fetish for Asian girls?
My boyfriend does have a thing for Asian girls. I'm Eastern European so I don't fit the description. But it doesn't bother me any. In our 2 years it's never presented an issue.
Are you in an open relationship?
You don't need to be shy about telling me you're in an open relationship. 😊
Great answer. Those types of women are not worth it. Even less when they have a brown baby and are single.
So you mean he has fucked Asian women while being with you? Can we even call that a relationship? I don't consider open relationships, real relationships.
I forgot thos thread still existed. Now I see why ended up ignoring it. Back to the dump ot goes
It is not racist. It is normal thinking. Those types of women are disgusting.
Would you rather date a white girl who's fucked one black man in a monogamous relationship, and the man happened to have an average size dick, or date a white girl who's fucked 5 - 10 other white guys who have huge dicks? LOL You're afraid to admit something, little white boy. LOL
You're confused, black boy. White girls who aren't porn addicted no hopers don't like black guys because of dick size but because the skin color.
My dick has a very good size and I'm good enough in bed, but my skin is not black so why in hell would I date a girl who doesn't like my skin color?
You're confused, white boy, because I'm not black, and I'm not a boy. You'll date black girls who have fucked who knows how many black guys, and/or white guys, but you won't date a white girl who has fucked one black guy. LOL Yeah, I'm confused. LOL I don't care to figure out if it's racist or not because obviously you will fuck black girls, but a white girl who's had perhaps even the same guy as the black girl you'd be willing to fuck - uh no, that's no good. What is she, a race traitor? LOL Yeah, I'm the confused one. LMAO.
* typo - "a white girl who's had sex with perhaps even the same black guy as the black girl you'd be willing to fuck " ... that's no good. LOL
it's your preference. do whatever you want.
It is seen as racist because you are judging someone based upon the race of a past partner. Textbook racism.
Again, an overly political person who judges everything according to his tiny box of ideology.
You make a fuss over minor things that don't affect anyone, don't you have anything better to do than to show off your zealotry?
Wrong, troll. I don't give one F what you do. You asked, I answered.
No, you political fanatic. You feel your fragile "values" are "being attacked" every time you see people who are not like you. Overly political/religious people are quite narcissistic indeed. After all, little Narcissus finds ugly everything which is not mirror.
LMAO. You are the one whining about every answer that disagrees with you. I am a libertarian and defend your right to do whatever you want as long as you are not violating the person or property of another. You asked if your attitude is seen as racist. Because it is racist. That you refuse to accept the simple fact does not change the reality. Now have fun whining more, because I am muting this waste of time topic.
I couldn't care less about your tiny box of ideology. You're truly a descendant of the protestant sc*m who colonized this country. Oh, such good people! They preached about justice and freedom at the same time they were killing the native population of this land!
Neither do I.
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