As a white guy, is it really best that I go to Asia?

[WhiteBoyChill]

I hear it suggested so many times that white guys struggling with the dating market in the US should just go to Asia.

What I mean is just I’m not Asian obviously and I probably won’t ever assimilate or be considered one of them by the locals.

I don’t think living there is really the way to go. Not to mention most of the stuff I see out of Asia anyway is just white guys going there for sex tourism.

I wouldn’t want to go there and just be lumped into that same category.

And culturally I have no idea wtf they’re like and I probably wouldn’t like their food much at all either, but I’m already sort of used to things in the US feeling easygoing. I’m just the standard American guy to everyone. Even with dating being as bad as it is. I’ve already sort of figured out how to navigate life.

I’d hate to be swarmed by a bunch of women because I like to just keep a low profile with things and I’d find it much harder to commit.

At least with here in the US. I literally never get any woman interested in me and so if I found one that was it’d be literally no problem.

And I wouldn’t have to worry about whether or not she would move here or I’d move overseas.

If she moved to my place she could get poisoned by all the culture whereas a traditional woman in the US would just stay a traditional woman in the US.

And if I moved over there it’d just be kinda weird because people would probably treat me differently just because I’d be the only white guy around and stuff.

I just kinda like the status quo in the US but I feel I’m obviously going to have to accept being single for likely forever if I stay in the US.

[RespectfulGuy]

I'm Asian. Let me answer your details in detail.

"I hear it suggested so many times that white guys struggling with the dating market in the US should just go to Asia."

The days where Asian girls are overly populated in relation to Asian guys is over.

Now the ratio of Asian girls to Asian guys is about 1. Hence you won't stand an advantage just by skin color.

" What I mean is just I’m not Asian obviously and I probably won’t ever assimilate or be considered one of them by the locals.

I don’t think living there is really the way to go. Not to mention most of the stuff I see out of Asia anyway is just white guys going there for sex tourism.

I wouldn’t want to go there and just be lumped into that same category."

Then don't go.

Girls here are no longer desperate for guys. I fact guys here need to work hard to win their hands.

Unless of course, the girl is a prostitute. In a few Asian countries, Prostitution is legal, including Singapore.

"And culturally I have no idea wtf they’re like"

Asian girls are great. They could be shy in the beginning. But once your break the awkward barrier, she becomes a tiger in bed.

"and I probably wouldn’t like their food much at all either,"

Wrong. Authentic Asian food is among the best International crusine in the world. By varieties they range into hundreds, from spicy hot to chilly cold, from sweet to sour to bitter. And some has alcohol added.

You'll never be disappointed once you acquire the taste.

"but I’m already sort of used to things in the US feeling easygoing. I’m just the standard American guy to everyone."

It's a mentality. When in Rome, do as the Roman does. If you can't, then indeed stay in the USA.

"Even with dating being as bad as it is. I’ve already sort of figured out how to navigate life."

LOL! Why ask this question then?

"I’d hate to be swarmed by a bunch of women"

You won't. Unless you pay in USD cash in a Prostitution.

"because I like to just keep a low profile with things and I’d find it much harder to commit."

Go ahead. Girls here are so used to seeing white people that you'll be just another "ang mo" (white skin).

"At least with here in the US. I literally never get any woman interested in me and so if I found one that was it’d be literally no problem."

Again, if this is your desire, why ask this question?

"And I wouldn’t have to worry about whether or not she would move here or I’d move overseas."

Yes, if you found a girl and marrying her, this is an issue.

"If she moved to my place she could get poisoned by all the culture whereas a traditional woman in the US would just stay a traditional woman in the US."

Trust me on this: Asian girls are well trained and well exposed to the world. Many are directors and CEO of big companies including Google, Facebook, IBM and Microsoft, not to mention the Big Four accounting firms.

They are well travelled and yes, they don't give a heck you're black or white. They talk $$$ and are very materialistic, wearing Prada and putting on expensive makeups that may cost half your salary each month.

"And if I moved over there it’d just be kinda weird because people would probably treat me differently just because I’d be the only white guy around and stuff."

LOL! Google photos of Singapore MRT. Black and white are all canned like sardines on their daily trips to and fro work.

" I just kinda like the status quo in the US but I feel I’m obviously going to have to accept being single for likely forever if I stay in the US."

Yes. I suggest you do so. Asians don't live in trees anymore.

Google for photos like "Singapore Changi Airport" , "Kuala Lumpur Petronas towers" (used to be world's tallest buildings), and photos of Beijing, Shanghai, etc.

And compare them with New York.

To conclude, please come to Asia. Then you'll return, educated. And ready for a mate.

[WhiteBoyChill]

Yeah man. I didn’t intend for this to be rude or aggressive in any way lol. All I’m saying is I’m doubtful of whether or not moving to Asia would really change my situation and make things better.

It might improve my chances of having a girlfriend or whatever, but I don’t really know if I’d actually adjust into Asian culture or not. I’m a traditional western man, but that still isn’t the same as being an Asian. Regardless, you seem to think I am worrying too much about stuff, which of course, I probably am since I’ve never even been there.

When I said “I’m used to the status quo of things in the US”. I meant more that I’m used to the flow of everyday life. I’m not anxious about stuff. I have most of it figured out. It’s all the unexpected and unknowns about what daily life is like in Asia or what to expect culturally that gives me anxiety. I don’t really know whether or not I’d be welcome there or if I’m just some sort of prick to all of them.

[RespectfulGuy]

Sorry if I were too hash with words.

But if you're a young person seeking success in life, may I say, JUST DO IT!

Spend a year or two there. Get ready for a work Visa. Teach English, it's in demand. And your skin color gives you the advantage.

(Worse case you return to the USA)

[WhiteBoyChill]

You’re fine dude.

In regards to teaching English though. I don’t really know any of the local languages. And outside of work, would it really be possible to become friendly with locals?

As I said I just worry there’s too much negative connotation with being a white guy since many white guys come to Asia for nefarious purposes.

[RespectfulGuy]

Almost EVERY Asian knows how to speak English. We may not be as proficient as Westerners. But I'm sure you'll like our "Jackie Chan" accent. LOL!

[RespectfulGuy]

And no worries. Rather be worried girls here rip you off everything. Asians are not as innocent as you think.

[Avicenna]

Young Asian women usually have higher standards than US women, and their parents certainly do. Their parents may expect something financial from you. It's no cakewalk like you think it will be. It's not the 1960s anymore.

But you should visit Asia.

[Avicenna]

Now, if you make good money, you will probably get a much better woman in Asia than you would in the US. I regret not marrying an Asian woman.

[WhiteBoyChill]

So you’re unhappy with your current wife?

[Avicenna]

I am not married

[WhiteBoyChill]

Well its never too late I suppose

[Avicenna]

LMAO, I have no need to be married again (actually didn't need to the first time, but she needed a green card).

[TheSpaceGnome]

@Avicenna What if a guy doesn't want a gold digger, but sees all his mental matches in southeast Asia.

[Avicenna]

@TheSpaceGnome; Well, he might get lucky, but women who have good situations generally don't have to leave their countries.

[TheSpaceGnome]

Define "good situations".

[chrissykerdock]

the way i see it for you your a high moral guy in a world in the usa of low moral people... my female cousin lets guys cum in her that she's not even dating so she has a child as a single mom... i'm slut in some regards but never let guys cum in my vagina especially one's that i wasn't dating... even one's i am i don't let them do that either.

[WhiteBoyChill]

Yeah. At least you understand the complications of pregnancy. Lol

[chrissykerdock]

wouldn't try it unless i was married... ever wonder why people get married... essentially to have kids.

[WhiteBoyChill]

Ya and the other issue I have is those women that think they’re entitled to an abortion. Regardless of the fetus, which they could not care less about

[chrissykerdock]

it's not unsual for a woman to have had 50 abortions... which makes it depraved

[LaFemmeFatale_1]

If you are looking for virgins, you can’t find them here.

[WhiteBoyChill]

I mean yeah, that’s true.

[LaFemmeFatale_1]

You can’t find them here - in East Asia.

[justabuddy]

Interesting... why?

[LaFemmeFatale_1]

@justabuddy As much as they are reserved and acting all shy about sex, it’s a common knowledge here, they are not that shy at all, Chinese men often say “Chinese girl and a virgin? Impossible.” I was surprised too when I heard that.

I don’t think that’s totally true and it’s mainly a generalization, of course there will be exceptions but here is the lack of men who are well off financially and girls who find such, quickly jump into sex, frequently on a first or a second date at max, to make that guy stay. Because the first thing they are taught here that money is important and sometimes more important than love.

My ex’s mom was upset with me for not chasing my ex and lure him back with sex, because that’s obviously what a Chinese girl would do.

I got very close friends with a shy Chinese girl of 25, who had an open conversation with me, she told me she’s very reserved and has only had sex with 12 guys, sometimes in clubs and bars, she also got dates with others while being in a relationship, she said Chinese girls like to play innocent but they aren’t, she also said, girls like to have sex on a first date, to make sure the guy is not going to other girls. She said it’s hard to find a virgin past the age of 18-19 and that China is not as conservative as it looks like. They just don’t like to admit it, but they are much more open-minded than they like to admit.

[justabuddy]

Man... you can't believe anything you hear on the Internet.

[LaFemmeFatale_1]

What have you heard on Internet?

[justabuddy]

It was a joke. Most I hear is that Chinese girls are highly family oriented.

[WhiteBoyChill]

Well. I never really considered China as an option. But that’s mainly because it just isn’t a very Democratic country to live in

[LaFemmeFatale_1]

@justabuddy They are, if you have a luxury car, money, if you happen to be a foreigner, as they have a false misconception of all foreigners being rich.

My ex fiancé always told me I was different because I didn’t care about his house, car or money. And that was something very hard to find in China. Here rich man marry Eastern European women because in China it’s a well-known fact that Eastern European women are much less materialistic and more loving than their local women.

I don’t blame Chinese women for wanting to have a good life, but it seems to be a big part of the culture that the money is the God. And they’ll marry you if you have enough money, other than that they are not so family oriented. It’s important for them to get married before 30 not to be considered “leftover” women, if that counts.

I keep hearing that on a daily basis, too many people say the same for it to be wrong.

[WhiteBoyChill]

Yes but I wonder if it is just a China thing, or an Asia in general thing

[Kaamraj]

There is a whole movement of men who are relocating to E. Asia because they're being squeezed out of the dating market. It's generally a good idea as Asia is more underdeveloped so people adhere more to their gender roles. You being while, having a passport of a western country, earning in USD would certainly make you more attractive than what you were back home, but now the governments of many Asian countries are understanding this and trying to stop or tax this dating immigation.

[WhiteBoyChill]

At the same time tho. I do kinda get the impression that 95% of white guys in Asia are there for sex tourism so I would hope that doesn’t negatively bias their view toward us

[Kaamraj]

Asian women know very well that if you lead with sex in exchange for money short term then you will be seen as a prostitute. They mostly know that you have to bring much more to the table than sex for a relationship. Cooking meals, emotional support, good conversation, social proof, motivation, etc.

[inhua]

wouldn't be a bad idea

if I had the time, I'd give you a tour of the place

[WhiteBoyChill]

Fr man? I honestly am doubtful of whether I’d really fit in. I’d hate to have people make me feel uncomfortable and stuff.

[slatyb]

I wouldn't because I wouldn't want to have a partner that wasn't fluent in English.