Preferring successful men doesn't make a woman a gold-digger. A gold diggern is a woman who pretends to have romantic interest in men to obtain goods and services.
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Anonymous
(25-29)
9 mo
Because a man's financial duty to his partner is to support their growing family. It was not, and never has been, to lavish a promiscuous unloving women whom only seeks material possessions; they are entirely unworthy of the time, money and wasted effort.
Men, you only have so many years; spend it on wife material, not ((women seeking money in exchange for sex)).
Women shame men constantly for not wanting fat or promiscuous women by calling them shallow, fatphobic, or insecure. Men accept that women like money, Myron Gaines has a quote "All women are gold diggers, some are just better at hiding the shovel."
It is important to note that fat or promiscuous women can still get dates, but no woman will go near a homeless guy.
men don't get away with abandoning their families. the government hunts them down, forces them to pay child support or lock them up behind bars. even then there's enough feminists and conservatives to shame them
I actually dont see women being hated for wanting a man to provide for her. But I do see women being hated for wanting the 6 feet tall man that makes 100 000 dollars/year which is extremely rare.
ur comparing apples and oranges. Every one wants someone attractive not just men. women are the only ones that are attracted to money and status. So they want a guys that’s good looking and has money. women can be broke losers and they’re not judged for it like men are.
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Anonymous
(25-29)
9 mo
The term gold digger is overused. Most women are indeed attracted to men for their resources, but that doesn't necessarily make them gold diggers. I think the problem most men have with it is that women are nust dishonest about it.
@MRBanner I've never had a girl interested in my money, just my looks and mind. I just find it odd some women expect men to provide, as if men should hold more financial responsibility than women, and that men should grow up while women live like children do.
@MRBanner No they aren't. That myth needs to die. Jobs pay x amount, the pay is advertised in the help wanted ad, it does not go up or down after you're hired unless you are promoted, and that only happens if you are good at the job (or humping your boss).
Women that are paid less, are getting less pay because they work less, or they have a lower paying type of job. For example being a nurse pays less thsn being a doctork, and waiting tables is shit pay without tips. Women are more likely to take low paying jobs more often than men. But thats their choice to do so.
@MRBanner No, they are not, not for doing the same job while working the same amount of hours or doing the same number of commisions. The pay is the same, too much red tape for it to be otherwise.
@MRBanner Again, thats not proof. It is a claim made on a website that is contradicted by actual evidence that you can witness yourself in person.
You seem to not understand what proof is, it's something you actually see, hear, touch, taste, smell, or calculate, its not lines of text or a graph or a pie chart.
No, the roles are the same, both need to do their part in parental care, housework, and paid labor. This isn't the 1950s, you can't expect men to do the majority of the work then give you half of his income while also funding the kids. So being a stay at home mom while the guy works his ass off and pays you for it IS taking advantage of a man.
In today's economy, its impossible to properly take care of and raise 1 child without dual incomes for 99% of jobs without sacrificing your own needs/wants. And housework is too minimal to even come close to matching job labor for any high paying job, even with children.
In my situation, its reduced even further, as I don't want any children, and my home is very clean because I'm not a messy person and I use filtration systems, I also prefer to cook my own food or eat out/order in, so she'd have free time to do whatever all day almost every day.
I work from home however, she would need to do half of that work for me to want to be with her her, as it's a passion job/hobby job, and I only date women who share my passions/hobbies.
Of course you are free to have your standards, and so are we.
In Europe it's pretty common for a woman to stay at home. And pretty easy for men to earn enaugh for the entire household. I'm talking about anybody who is above cheap labor. For a regular decent lifestyle.
Maybe you would like to stay at home and raise the kids, sure, no problem, some couples do that do. But in no way in hell are both of us working and some random people raise our kids.
And household work is real fulltime work, if done properly, i don't mean just dusting or meal preps. Whatever needs done, cleaning, fixing, the yard, building furniture/things, being his assistant for whatever he needs, and the kids.
If I wanted kids, I'd require that both me and her raise them, and both me and her work or have passive incomes on top of that, not one or the other.
Household work in my home is intentionally made to be a very tiny amount of work to maintain, because I do not have time for a high maintinence home. It would require the following chores:
1. A very small amount of dusting once per month (I do this myself) 2. Cleaning small accidental messes on rare ocassions (I clean those up myself unless someone else makes the mess, then they clean it) 3. Taking the trash out once per week (I do this myself) 4. Meal prep/cleanup or ordering food (I do this myself) 5. Feeding the pets (I also do this myself) 6. Laundry once per week (I do my own laundry and expect her to do her own laundry). 7. Cleaning the bathroom once per month (I do this myself) 8. Food shopping 4 times per month (I have to be present for this)
Thats is, there just isn't much to do for housework, you don't even need to vacuum or wash floors or mow the lawn, that shit is automated.
Since I'd be working from home and doing those chores myself, there would be almost nothing for her to do unless she does those half the time. which amounts to very little work (we are talking your child could do them for an allowance type of quick chores).
In the US you need a 6 figure income to afford a family, 99% of jobs are cheap labor jobs, and most of those do not pay even close to living wages capable of paying rent on your own without sacrificing everything else.
The days of blue collar workers being able to work part time and feed a large family, have pets, a good vehicle, buy a house, go on vacations, have expensive hobbies and collections, etc. without getting into severe debt or splitting costs in half, are long gone.
I'm keeping my debt free hobby filled life with a house I buy outright.
Being the sole provider for a family would destroy that lifestyle on anything but $150,000 a year or more, but having dual incomes and no kids cuts that price in half for both people ) with zero added expenses) and allows for business expansion.
Immature here, people without money are not losers, we are very just in our thinking. And women judge looks more, women overall are more judgmental then men
Gold diggers are women that would date a 92 year old billionaire just to give him a heart attack to take over his wealth. And i guess men are materialistic when it comes to women's bodies.
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Anonymous
(30-35)
9 mo
Gold digger is a term usually used by men that have no gold to give anyone, let alone a woman.
This nature of Women is completely normal and if someone is natural, we can't blame them, same as you mentioned Most men prefer beautiful Women, except few people like me, who priorities piousness.🌱
Oh but MEN DO date ugly women and women know it. That's why they have to put on all the make up and nice clothes on
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Anonymous
(36-45)
9 mo
Lol because they aren't the same thing. One is being a parasite while at the same time bringing nothing to the table (gold digger) and one is being attracted to fertility..
having money is a sign of having a good provider , no one wants to be with a man who can't provide for their family , most women are attracted to rich guys simply bc they're seen as more masculine and ambitious
just like looks represent fertility , now im not saying that most beautiful women are good mothers , but the initial attraction gives a sign of that , so that's why men go after pretty/fit women , and so do women go after rich guys bc it's a sign that he's a good provider
Actually richness or being wealthy is not a good example of masculinity. A willingness to provide and protect. But again you're too young and shallow to understand that yet. You will not win this argument. I have decades on you.
first of alllllll , I literally just said that it's not in all cases that it represents masculinity , same when guys go after women who think she's a good mother just by her looks , and secondddd , what does having u being married let u "win" this argument? u seem so immature to be even be married
Not making excuses. The highest divorce rate among married couples are among the wealthy.. What does that tell you? Marrying for money is basically doomed to failure. Again if you actually did some research and opened your mind a bit you'd understand that. Anyway, this conversation is over.
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Preferring successful men doesn't make a woman a gold-digger. A gold diggern is a woman who pretends to have romantic interest in men to obtain goods and services.
Because a man's financial duty to his partner is to support their growing family. It was not, and never has been, to lavish a promiscuous unloving women whom only seeks material possessions; they are entirely unworthy of the time, money and wasted effort.
Men, you only have so many years; spend it on wife material, not ((women seeking money in exchange for sex)).
Women shame men constantly for not wanting fat or promiscuous women by calling them shallow, fatphobic, or insecure. Men accept that women like money, Myron Gaines has a quote "All women are gold diggers, some are just better at hiding the shovel."
It is important to note that fat or promiscuous women can still get dates, but no woman will go near a homeless guy.
its called patriarchy.
men have always gotten away with things including abandoning their own children for single moms to raise all alone.
men don't get away with abandoning their families. the government hunts them down, forces them to pay child support or lock them up behind bars. even then there's enough feminists and conservatives to shame them
I actually dont see women being hated for wanting a man to provide for her. But I do see women being hated for wanting the 6 feet tall man that makes 100 000 dollars/year which is extremely rare.
ur comparing apples and oranges. Every one wants someone attractive not just men. women are the only ones that are attracted to money and status. So they want a guys that’s good looking and has money. women can be broke losers and they’re not judged for it like men are.
The term gold digger is overused. Most women are indeed attracted to men for their resources, but that doesn't necessarily make them gold diggers. I think the problem most men have with it is that women are nust dishonest about it.
I don't know but I love a gold digger because we'll both get paid
Men are supposed to love, support, provide and rescue a female.
When females go for a guy like that, she’s called high maintenance, a trap, etc.
Gold digger is only there for the money.
The guy is still interested in you, not in the amount of your makeup.
Of course guys should make enaugh money to support a family, but above that is just crazy.
Women should make enough money to support a family.
See how that sounds? Thats how it sounds when women say men should support them.
But yes, gold diggers just want money.
@MRBanner I've never had a girl interested in my money, just my looks and mind. I just find it odd some women expect men to provide, as if men should hold more financial responsibility than women, and that men should grow up while women live like children do.
Husbands are not replacements for fathers.
@MRBanner No they aren't. That myth needs to die. Jobs pay x amount, the pay is advertised in the help wanted ad, it does not go up or down after you're hired unless you are promoted, and that only happens if you are good at the job (or humping your boss).
Women that are paid less, are getting less pay because they work less, or they have a lower paying type of job. For example being a nurse pays less thsn being a doctork, and waiting tables is shit pay without tips. Women are more likely to take low paying jobs more often than men. But thats their choice to do so.
than* doctor*
@MRBanner No, they are not, not for doing the same job while working the same amount of hours or doing the same number of commisions. The pay is the same, too much red tape for it to be otherwise.
@MRBanner Thats not proof, its internet bullshit.
I could show you a photoshopped pic of godzilla and be like "look, here is proof he exists".
The proof that I'm right is in the real world.
The internet has "proof" of everything, be it true or false...
@MRBanner Again, thats not proof. It is a claim made on a website that is contradicted by actual evidence that you can witness yourself in person.
You seem to not understand what proof is, it's something you actually see, hear, touch, taste, smell, or calculate, its not lines of text or a graph or a pie chart.
Also grow up.
It's natural for women to want men to be able to take care of them. It's due to women being unable to work for at least 12 years when having children.
Not saying women should take advantage of men or shouldn't provide value from housework or whatever needs done.
Men and women have different roles in life and in relationships. You can't expect us to be equal in everything.
No, the roles are the same, both need to do their part in parental care, housework, and paid labor.
This isn't the 1950s, you can't expect men to do the majority of the work then give you half of his income while also funding the kids. So being a stay at home mom while the guy works his ass off and pays you for it IS taking advantage of a man.
In today's economy, its impossible to properly take care of and raise 1 child without dual incomes for 99% of jobs without sacrificing your own needs/wants. And housework is too minimal to even come close to matching job labor for any high paying job, even with children.
In my situation, its reduced even further, as I don't want any children, and my home is very clean because I'm not a messy person and I use filtration systems, I also prefer to cook my own food or eat out/order in, so she'd have free time to do whatever all day almost every day.
I work from home however, she would need to do half of that work for me to want to be with her her, as it's a passion job/hobby job, and I only date women who share my passions/hobbies.
Of course you are free to have your standards, and so are we.
In Europe it's pretty common for a woman to stay at home. And pretty easy for men to earn enaugh for the entire household. I'm talking about anybody who is above cheap labor. For a regular decent lifestyle.
Maybe you would like to stay at home and raise the kids, sure, no problem, some couples do that do. But in no way in hell are both of us working and some random people raise our kids.
And household work is real fulltime work, if done properly, i don't mean just dusting or meal preps. Whatever needs done, cleaning, fixing, the yard, building furniture/things, being his assistant for whatever he needs, and the kids.
If I wanted kids, I'd require that both me and her raise them, and both me and her work or have passive incomes on top of that, not one or the other.
Household work in my home is intentionally made to be a very tiny amount of work to maintain, because I do not have time for a high maintinence home. It would require the following chores:
1. A very small amount of dusting once per month (I do this myself)
2. Cleaning small accidental messes on rare ocassions (I clean those up myself unless someone else makes the mess, then they clean it)
3. Taking the trash out once per week (I do this myself)
4. Meal prep/cleanup or ordering food (I do this myself)
5. Feeding the pets (I also do this myself)
6. Laundry once per week (I do my own laundry and expect her to do her own laundry).
7. Cleaning the bathroom once per month (I do this myself)
8. Food shopping 4 times per month (I have to be present for this)
Thats is, there just isn't much to do for housework, you don't even need to vacuum or wash floors or mow the lawn, that shit is automated.
Since I'd be working from home and doing those chores myself, there would be almost nothing for her to do unless she does those half the time. which amounts to very little work (we are talking your child could do them for an allowance type of quick chores).
In the US you need a 6 figure income to afford a family, 99% of jobs are cheap labor jobs, and most of those do not pay even close to living wages capable of paying rent on your own without sacrificing everything else.
The days of blue collar workers being able to work part time and feed a large family, have pets, a good vehicle, buy a house, go on vacations, have expensive hobbies and collections, etc. without getting into severe debt or splitting costs in half, are long gone.
I'm keeping my debt free hobby filled life with a house I buy outright.
Being the sole provider for a family would destroy that lifestyle on anything but $150,000 a year or more, but having dual incomes and no kids cuts that price in half for both people ) with zero added expenses) and allows for business expansion.
Immature here, people without money are not losers, we are very just in our thinking. And women judge looks more, women overall are more judgmental then men
Gold diggers are women that would date a 92 year old billionaire just to give him a heart attack to take over his wealth. And i guess men are materialistic when it comes to women's bodies.
Gold digger is a term usually used by men that have no gold to give anyone, let alone a woman.
This nature of Women is completely normal and if someone is natural, we can't blame them, same as you mentioned Most men prefer beautiful Women, except few people like me, who priorities piousness.🌱
Oh but MEN DO date ugly women and women know it. That's why they have to put on all the make up and nice clothes on
Lol because they aren't the same thing. One is being a parasite while at the same time bringing nothing to the table (gold digger) and one is being attracted to fertility..
having money is a sign of having a good provider , no one wants to be with a man who can't provide for their family , most women are attracted to rich guys simply bc they're seen as more masculine and ambitious
You're 15.. One day you will realize money isn't everything.. That's called growing up..
that's not the point
and saying im 15 won't make what i wrote ''inexperienced''
Actually it does. As a good woman gets older, she realizes her priorities shift. Only the bad ones hold onto ideas like you have.
it's not a bad idea , is it wrong to be attracted to successful men who are ambitious and that are rich? broke guys don't represent masculinity
just like looks represent fertility , now im not saying that most beautiful women are good mothers , but the initial attraction gives a sign of that , so that's why men go after pretty/fit women , and so do women go after rich guys bc it's a sign that he's a good provider
Actually richness or being wealthy is not a good example of masculinity. A willingness to provide and protect. But again you're too young and shallow to understand that yet. You will not win this argument. I have decades on you.
Oh and the ultimate trump card.. I'm married.. You are not and likely never will be.
first of alllllll , I literally just said that it's not in all cases that it represents masculinity , same when guys go after women who think she's a good mother just by her looks , and secondddd , what does having u being married let u "win" this argument? u seem so immature to be even be married
and only broke guys make excuses
Not making excuses. The highest divorce rate among married couples are among the wealthy.. What does that tell you? Marrying for money is basically doomed to failure. Again if you actually did some research and opened your mind a bit you'd understand that. Anyway, this conversation is over.
My last 2 gfs were called gold diggers by their jealous friends. Girls do it too
Low self esteem and insecurities
Women have been calling men shallow for decades. Men have just decided to start calling women out for their obvious shallowness as well.
Hahahaha, I don't care if a woman wants my money, because I'm not going to give it to her.