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Why does it jump to "lying"? Some women are never approached by men for a few reasons. For example:
"Some women are "angry birds". They're ALWAYS upset and dissatisfied about things, always complaining and looking at people as if they just smelled something nasty... Who wants to approach that sort of person? Nobody."
But how would you know that, unless you've chatted with that person before? Some people naturally have a RBF and might look angry, or annoyed, without intending to, even when they're actually relaxed. I think that some people confuse a resting bitch face with an actual bitchy attitude. Just because a woman doesn’t appear to be in a pleasant mood for a few minutes out of the day doesn’t mean that she is a bitch.
@SereneScribe3 You've never seen that chick who is ALWAYS looking down on everyone with an expression like she's smelling something really bad? Or the girl whose RBF would scare off Satan himself? Take a walk to any random place and you'll spot at least a dozen.
Hahaha I’ve never been insulted and thought it was so justified and accurate before. Made me laugh.
Ide really like to ask you. Why should men approach women? Serious question no insult and not stupid. Why should men approach women or even consider a relationship worth the investment?
Women can be seen unpleasant, angry, seem greedy, etc because someone made them that way. Probably because of their parents or an ex. Every person is broken in their own way.
If you choose to approach a woman without any problems then you’re looking for a unicorn. Women require patience, understanding, compassion, and security. If you aren’t able to provide that then don’t even bother with looking for a relationship.
Overall a good response but about your point:
“Some women are perfectly fine, but we're in 2024... Some guys are just lazy dolts when it comes to approaching women. They're so confused by the other 4 categories that when they see a good woman they're not inspired to approach and risk being rejected.”
I would chalk up these men as just “lazy”. There can be heavy paranoia mixed in now. That’s not the man’s fault either.
If the man is on the fence about approaching whether it’s due to laziness, insecurity, etc the paranoia will definitely push him to not approach. Where 10+ years ago he would of maybe taken a chance.
I was in this situation 2 weeks ago. I noticed an attractive woman at a kava bar I frequent and we briefly made eye contact. She was with a friend but also playing pool with 2 other guys.
I was there by myself just to chill out after a stressful day at work. I was looking to approach anyone. I wasn’t that well dressed at the time either. But I know 10+ years ago I would of at least said hello to her. But I had no idea if she was there with a boyfriend or what. There were also a lot of “progressive” looking types around and I just decided to not do anything.
@VanillaSalt Very very basic "primal instinct" of how a guy is wired. You're more interested in the fish you catch in the wild than the one in the store all cut up and ready to fry. You are proud of the stuff you earn and get bored of the stuff that just happens to be hanging around you. Same with women. You'll be more appreciative and fall deeper for the gal whose heart you've earned than you will the little chippy who throws herself at you.
Gals need to figure that out on their own... what's the star trek line? "Resistance is futile" right? We all need to admit that guys are wired this way... and that woman who WANT to be with a guy need to let that process unfold so they can be happy and loved rather than CONSTANTLY CHASING and NAGGING the guy till the end of time...
Sound good?
No, the vast majority of men have moved to online apps to meet women because they are too scared of rejection. Plus, online apps pare down conversation so men can believe they could ensure they get precisely what they want without taking on any responsibilities in return.
Keep in mind "approach" necissarily means success is not predetermined. If you approach a woman beyond your station you are likely to get rejected. Men don't want that rejection precisely because it means they are beneath the station they imagined. Approaching women is a reckoning or "reality check," of sorts, to let a man learn whether all the crap he's been feeding his ego was healthy but often unsatisfying sustenance or maximally satisfying junk food. To discover it is the former then supercharges that ego but to discover it is the latter rejects not only a man's body but the entire basis of his pride.
Validation, in other words. Everyone wants validation but men tend to hunt for it with a little more aggression and thus react with a little more despair or anger when they fail. However, when women accept a man that still isn't really accepting the basis of his pride. It's not that women are thinking there is some other standard men should live up to so much as women tend to be completely oblivious to the whole game. They have to learn and the thing is women can learn to value pretty much any sort of pride as long as it feeds their kids - that's their whole nature.
What women tend to actually want from a man when approached is communication skills. Which is another reason men prefer online as it allows any man to appear to know how to communicate effectively. But that's only words. Women like to be able to see that body language matches spoken language - as that's sort of what confidence is. And women love confidence.
Men haven’t necessarily “completely” stopped approaching women. But without a doubt most men are far less likely to take chances nowadays compared to even 10 years ago thanks to modern feminism and #metoo bs. But some men will still cautiously approach do it in the most non-threatening way possible. This passivity sometimes fails to get the message across that the guy is even interested.
So is this what most women really want? I highly doubt it. But this “modern” change in male behavior was not the man’s idea
But the problem is there are still a minority of trashy dbag guys who will always aggressively approach women and could care less if they make the women uncomfortable (or worse) or not. They only care about what they can get away with. And these guys are still approaching but they are doing the bare minimum to avoid getting in trouble. What’s worse is women are now mostly getting approached by guys like this now.
Thoughtful guys are the ones who aren’t approaching anymore. They are paranoid and for good reason. When you can get labeled a creep for just saying “hello” to a woman who doesn’t find you attractive there is a big problem.
However there is a small but growing minority of women who hate modern feminism bullsh*t. We need more of them speaking up. I’ve seen a few here and there speak out against but they are rare. Also you can speak out against modern feminism and still vote democrat. I think these women are paranoid about being labeled “trump supporters” or some bs if they call out modern feminism. It’s gross.
If you've been following GaG for a while it is apparent that women now a days are not only meaner, but selfish, rude, weaponized feminists, hate men - must I go on?
Not all, but a lot of men have learned how turned off they are about the way women treat them and not in a good way.
Do you think they are going to want to stick their hand in a snake pit only to find out she is like the women I just described?
I can't blame them either. A lot of women are very hard to get along with and have to be right all the time so be prepared to get yourself in a screaming match with some crazy 🤪 woman.
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What I was going to say that some other guys already noted is that women are whining about guys they want who aren't approaching them, and that does remain to be true. Plenty of men are still after them, but women are just complaining because it's not the types they're interested in.
However, any attention a woman gets is still attention that she doesn't mind exploiting. Meaning that they love talking about guys who are so into them even if she's not into them back. She just wants to let people know that men desire her.
What is ALWAYS meant when women suggest that they don’t get hit on is that the men they WANT do not hit on them. This has been the truth since the beginning of time and it is unlikely to ever end.
Wrong.
Well shit just say wrong and don’t elaborate…
I agree Chaz. I think women do get attention but it’s not the kind they want and it’s not from who they want. Guys locked in the friend zone and random guys that strike up conversation are missed. I think it’s because unless women are interested in you they don’t even consider that you are interested in them.
@VanillaSalt no need to elaborate.
And they say we men cannot communicate… YOU SHOULD ALREADY KNOW! Such a woman thing to say.
@VanillaSalt I have excellent communication. Including picking my battles and putting my energy where it serves me best.
@radiate143 and yet here you are responding with one word and insults without a single fact… what did you accomplish? Did your energy serve any good here? Change any minds? Or did you just feel better telling people that don’t care how you feel?
Lots of guys are still approaching women. Young women. Desirable women. Women who haven't fucked a large number of guys.
The ones who are not being hit on anymore, are the ones complaining most loudly because they thought that how things were in their teens and 20s were how it was going to be for the rest of their lives.
Women in their 40s and over? They have a fierce reality check. Women who think it was totally okay to bang hundreds of guys and then try to find a nice simp to settle down with? Huge reality check coming. And as for single moms with kids, who still dream of Prince Charming? Guess what? Prince Charming doesn't need socks.
(Sock - Some Other Cunts Kid)
I’m pretty sure a lot of them are telling the truth. For a number of reasons too. One main reasons is they’re concerned about being accused of something. Two is because a lot of women these days scream out we don’t need men. Three because they’re intimidated by a girl who is just gorgeous as hell. The one time I will admit a man can be intimidated by a. Girl. Not because she has mo ey or she’s a boss babe. Four, a lot of men just don’t find women, at least western women worth the effort. They feel like there’s no return on their investment.
There are some girls that get ignored more than others sure but usually when girls complain about stuff like it’s that they don’t get approached by the guys they actually want. If guys in general don't approach as much anymore it’s cuz dating apps and social media have made a lot of women’s egos just enormous. I’ve seen below average looking girls reject guys that were better looking than them and not just a normal rejection but being very rude about it when the guy wasn't being a creep or anything. A girl could be a 5 and because she hooked up with a guy that was an 8 once any guy that’s a 6 or 7 is just not “on her level”.
It feels almost alien to look back on how I used to be... I used to approach any woman I found attractive pretty much anywhere I was, or anywhere she was, even if she was with 7 of her friends. I always had welcoming responses too... but nowadays I don't approach and will never do so again. I doubt many women get approached nowadays.
No they probably are not. Several reasons I can think of…
I’m pretty sure it’s a combination of these 3 things. That’s the case in my case at least.
No - women are not lying when they say men don't approach them anymore. Men have taken what women have said as in "Go away" and "Leave us alone" at face value and done exactly that, now women are complaining that men are giving the exactly what they said they wanted. Also the attitude/personality of women today doesn't encourage men to be anywhere near women let alone approach/date them.
There was a study that showed a vast majority of women wanted men to approach them much more than they do now.
Men have become more timid, women have become less approachable and also less attractive (obesity epidemic), so I think women are being honest in the perspective that men don't approach anymore.
I suspect it is as simple as if somebody doesn't like you then you don't like them.
Women don't see value in men so men won't see value in women. Young guys are seeming to see girls as more trouble then they are worth. That might not be the case but it is the messaging today.
Marriage is in a destructed state so there is no over arching game plan.
It's American etiquette. The 1950s are long gone. These days, people need to improve on their social skills and stop being an entitled Karen fake victimhood troublemaker. You can attract someone but they will be a mirror of your shadow shelf if you haven't unravel what your best version of yourself is.
Get out of the lame video game room and start taking a hobby or more and become confident to relate to others.
Yep, I was out the other night and there was a fair bit of guys chatting up girls, so that’s true. Also the entire question is one of those stupid generalisation questions, without any reference to back up the question.
They are probably not lying per se but viewing it from their perspective. Men just approach less and no woman wants to admit to herself that she isn't high quality so they generalise this behaviour as a cope.
Besides women specifically requested this so they shouldn't complain unless they spoke up about actually not preferring the bear.
I don't think so.
We have so much of our media saying that "unwanted contact" is harassment and the only way to find out if that contact is unwanted is to make that contact and risk "harassing" them.
Now the only ones who will actually approach either don't care what the media says or is someone who actually intends to harass them.
The media really did all of us dirty.
No, it depends on where you are. I originally come from a place where it is still very common for guys to approach women when we are out. Now i live in a place where dating sites are popular and men don't approach unless drunk.
I think guys just have become bored of asking out women who won't even take them up on a first date even. Its not even women/girls fault to a degree. This current gen of women are so senile that they won't even give the chance. XD.
Does it matter? To quote the late great George Carlin, "life doesn't change because you post a sign". If I want to approach a woman I will. Not that she has much to worry about because given my track record I probably won't.😆
For what it's worth. The women that approach me don't ask my permission either. And guess what? The world didn't end.
if you really want men to come over you can smile and they will it works 2 ways
I hesitate more now than I used to, that's for sure. I used to just be all Kamikaze about it but now in today's narrative of everyone being offended by every little thing, I second guess my playful sarcastic humor and imagine it being received as offensive, then I do it anyway, lol, but less than I used to 😤
Have you ever thought that maybe the women you interact with, are the ones who have that opinion in particular? Not every woman experiences life the same way!
I'm not approached unless someone is selling me something door to door. I haven't been approached but stared at - quite often
Yes. They want it but on their terms. It doesn't work that way. can't have it both ways to allow prince charming to do it but creepy guy can't.
Some must be. Men approach me and my friends all the time.
(1) true, if all they see or want are the top 10% of men, not some local average Joe Shmoe.
(2) tik tok and social media has poisoned their minds
No, if you don't get approached you don't look "approachable" or may not be as desired as you expect yourself to be.
Some might lie about that. Most women don’t though.
Attractive men don't approach her because she probably isn't attractive. Lol
It's like saying there's nothing to each because yiure picky eater.
Though not always, the majority of men who have approached me have proven to be emotionally abusive psychopaths.
I don't know, I just know my friends and I don't get approached very often. But I don't know what is considered "normal".
Men seem to think glaring into your eyes as an approach.
i get approached all the time, i have to go out of my way to avoid it as much as possible. i'm sure many girls experience this
I think they mean no guys their type approach them and not actually zero guys are approaching...
Women don't count being approached unless it from a guy she likes. The reason she thinks no one approaches her is because she doesn’t see men she's not attracted to as people
Men try to act like they are open to dating any woman when they are just as picky.
Yes, bc the right men doesn't.
They don't identify the bums etc as men
No, because in today's climate many men are wary about approaching a woman.
I approach, but a lot of guys seem content to have porn as their social life.
They do get approached Just not by the men they want.
The want a certain type of man that does not exist.
Like every woman has a different experience obviously my friend always gets approached but i am never approached
It depends on female hygiene.
Take a shower and see if it helps.
Most likely yes.
I've never actually heard a woman say that
Probably
That depends.
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