Is being considered a high value wo/man about superficial traits or character traits?

[Anonymous]

[MrOracle]

This is one of those things where men and women are extremely different. Men absolutely do NOT value the same things in a woman that women value in a man. For example, a woman's education, degrees, career, income, and status mean absolutely nothing to the vast majority of men. Why? Because they don't benefit men, and in many cases, they cause harm to men (mostly because women who feel that they have achieved more than their man, or even are just close to his level, in education or career success, often feel they are above their man, and thus deserve better, and so they leave him and often work to destroy him in the process).

What makes a woman high value in the eyes of most men as a relationship partner is almost completely about character - morals and values - which includes past behavior. Looking prettier isn't going to make a woman high value - you can't buy value in the clothing store or makeup counter.

Far too many women confuse sexual attention for relationship attention, but they are very different and based on a very different set of values.

[Screenwriter]

"A woman's education, degrees, career, income, and status mean absolutely nothing to the vast majority of men. Why? Because they don't benefit men, and in many cases, ... cause harm to men (mostly because women who feel.. they have achieved more (status) than their man, or even are close to his level, in education or career success, feel they are (more valuable than) their man, and thus deserve (a) better (man, or more from the man), and so they leave him, (or) often work to destroy him)." My parentheses... added...

...".. a woman is high value (to) most men as a.. partner.. almost completely (due to) character - morals and values - which includes past behavior."

Mr. Oracle: These are dark evaluations. A well educated, career oriented woman feels she is MORE valuable than her same-level man, and therefore deserves a higher value man, and worse yet, seeks to destroy their man because they believe they are with an inferior man?

Whew! What kind of scary women have you met up with?

My mom was far better educated than my dad, but they remained married for life because they were a partnership. They both had their spheres of expertise and my father chose my mother because he knew she would be a force to educate his children and to move the entire family forward financially and educationally, which she did.

[Screenwriter]

And because of his being married to her, he got more education himself. Not to her level, but in his sphere of expertise. There was no competition. My dad knew more in the practical areas of life: how to fix a house, repair a car, to cook. My mom knew more in the educational sphere. Sure, she could keep a clean house, but so could he.

The point is, when people get to know each other BEFORE they engage in long-term relationships, they know what each person values, and can discover what kind of PERSON each other is.

And there might be couples who get off on competing with each other in the career sphere. However, I think complementary personalities are more likely to make the best longtime couples.

I have a feeling that someone who would seek to destroy a man would reveal such tendencies long before a wedding ring or co-habitation occurs.

[MrOracle]

Yes, but they were of a very different generation. I'm taking about current generations. People who grew up under Feminist indoctrination, and social media. It's a completely different world, which is why the birthrate is collapsing now.

[Oncewildtwiceburned]

I find it kind of sad that the media here and in South Korea take women’s hardships over men’s in this argument about why the birth rates are below replacement level in that country. They don’t mention a thing about men’s plights the obfuscate and redirect the blame to purely financial-economic-global problems. They absolutely avoid placing any blame at the feed of the female sex. They don’t mention how they force the men to enlist in the military and face an active National threat on a daily basis, all while men suffer the same unfair, family, and divorce court standards that we have in the west

[SteveSmith1985]

Do you really want a guy who says stupid shit like "high value woman?"

"high value woman" is any woman that a specific guy likes. The fact that he likes her makes him see her as "valuable" (someone he wants to be with).

Nobody has a value like that, except for in the eye of the individual beholder.

Some people are more sought after than others. But that doesn't mean the person they like is going to see them as "high value" that happens all the time.

I just can't stomach the entire paradigm that people have some objective value as a partner. Nobody is special, unless some particular person sees them that way.

I don't know how to answer your question.

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[alice55]

That’s just some weird new trends it did not even exist yen years ago, this whole high value is like beauty standard, just a use less trends as everyone is différent and like différents things

I Heard that women need to be Virgin to be high value though the weird things is that if you re a Virgin while men appreciate it they want to remove it from you instantly and if you refuse they say they re not interested in a sexless relationship make it make sense 🤪

we re supposed to be Virgin until wedding to be high value but men try to steal it from us Even before we start dating and we re just ok the talking phase, don’t make sense.

when you actually look into the whole high value trends nothing make sense in real Life.

[IslaTheWitch]

the whole idea is artificial AF...

every person sees different things as attractive or important... so why should we align to predefined "high value xyz" definitions?

I prefer men I see as interesting... someone else's definitions don't matter...

[DishLady]

No. A woman is high value bc of her own standards and merit.

[OlderAndWiser]

Depends on who is forming that opinion.

[NicholasRedone]

I've been stared at, dressed and looking even spiky haired and in a jacket and tshirt 🧥 👕 👀 👁️ 👁️ and attractive women even outside of my leagues have stared - stared and light smiled - they like what they see in a 5 foot 11, slim built man who could still pass for 20 at 31 and still have flawless skin, clean-shaven 👀 👀 so let that sink in ; and I often look as you see as Usually dressed as a university aged person. How's that for allure 👀👁️👁️ eyes say it all in those ladies who decide - look at that green jacket man 🤭🤭🤭🤭🙃🥰 with the black non-tight pants and runners 👟👟

See, Nicholas learnt long ago, dressing the way I would style myself comfortably, attracts the actual ladies because - I stand out and I'm me 😅 I'm actually being really me. True

[Lliam]

When I hear people who talk about "high value", they are always referring to superficial traits like looks, wealth and status. Female virginity is the only character trait that these types of guys consider to be high value.

Personally, I'm repulsed by celebrities, moguls and people like that couple in the photo.
I like people who are down to earth and have healthy values, not materialistic, egotistical, competitive, social climbers.

[Oncewildtwiceburned]

Both. For example, being fit may be part genetics but it also reflects impulse control through the means of diet & exercise.

High value insinuates she is (or would be) desired by many wealthy and/or handsome (mostly) single men responsible seeking a long term relationship and eventually a family.

Character traits would include things like having a low (or no) body count and no children (yet), and modesty even though she is conventionally-to-very attractive.

Superficial traits and character traits can be interchangeable to some individuals, so not only is beauty in the eye of the beholder but so is positive character traits.

[Anonymous]

both and neither traits are that difficult for women to achieve

superficial traits are mostly limited to looks, a woman's money and status don't add anything and even in terms of looks, it's mostly how well she takes care of herself i. e. a physically fit woman with small breasts and small butt who uses good hygiene is still more attractive than a fat woman with big breasts and big butt and uses bad hygiene

character traits would be largely dependent on how likeable a woman would be absence of superficial traits. granted this isn't always easily recognizable but all men but definitely recognizable by high value men

[14gurlz2gagonit]

A high valued woman is just a woman that hasn't fucked herself up yet. Superficial stuff like stuffing her little perky tits with oil bags might attract men to physical traits, but it's going to take a lot more than that to attract a man that has more on his mind than just getting his dick wet.

[Miristheiss]

That is up to the person judging them.

Some people would value the money/status or the hot/sexy looks above all else.

Others would value the loyalty, value system, kindness, high character, devotion the most. They'd accept less looks or less money if the person was a great person.

I'm a guy and I always valued a woman who was a 7-7.5 but feminine, high character, good values, loyal over a 10 who was loose and a money digger/partier.

[Shiprex]

I think the terms indicate a level of superficiality on the one expressing a view on this. Like each person has their own value on different traits and weighs them up on a much wider scale of + and - on more than just appearance. Like income, status, career, ambition, passion, creativity, kindness, friendliness, sociability etc., and that much of what triggers us is a series of values that can fluctuate in these traits that we put on a person.

[TheSpaceGnome]

High value is a myth. The majority of adults are married and have kids and stay together based on compatibility, not objective value.

There is no such thing as high value partners, because people are individuals and value different things in a partner, anyone saying otherwise is gaslighting you or ego boosting.

The men and women who claim to be high value or "alpha", are typically the type to cheat and have casual sex, ie the type that no sane person would be with.

[Anonymous]

For men, high value traits are intelligence, ambition, passion, honesty, power, influence, social status, loyalty and physical attractiveness.

For women, they are physical attractiveness, kindness, nurturing nature, unselfishness, modesty, honesty and loyalty.

I don't think any of those traits are superficial.

[Nikki1989]

Only a real moron would use a term like “high-value” to describe someone, let alone actually believe something so subjective.

[Caroline91]

I would say more than anything, it is about being someone with true integrity.

[NordicInScandinavia]

Referring to people as low/high value is superficial on it's own.

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

Obviously superficial.

If you're a woman being physically gorgeous and young they put you as high value.

If you're a man that has high social status and wealth they consider you high value though you can be a trash of a person.

[Vegasrunner]

To be considered a HV man you must be considered a man of Value by other men of value. A woman's value is based on the level of man she can retain.

[Ariesman81]

@Vegasrunner

How'd the streak end up?

[Vegasrunner]

@Ariesman81 Which one?

[Ariesman81]

Word

[Anonymous]

It SHOULD be about character traits. But let's be honest. Most people who use a term like "high value" are focused on superficial traits.

[standardguy]

Well it's beauty for quality woman and incredible intelligence for man
AND
some character traits like self confidence and humble heart and the ability to treat other people with dignity.

[ProbablyClueless]

the online Spaces that use those terms Tend to mean them Superficially

[TwoToTooTutu2]

Superficial as fuck. Basically chalking down people to a monetary value, and relationships to some sort of transaction. It is unhealthy

[californiareaper]

A woman can be high value without looking like a model, making a lot of money, or having some college degree.

[RedInnocent69]

No, if character is one of the value considerations

[DCVsMarvel]

Money for men, looks for girls. I guaran damn tee it

[msc545]

For men, it is about appearance and wealth. For women, it is about appearance.

[Anonymous]

Tangibility , great genetics , family background lineage , wealth

[Eempriyanka]

I don't believe women and men should mingle

[WhitneySnow]

Character traits

[Lilly1979]

To me it's character trait.

[Fury_storm]

you are too old for one thing

[shortster]

Character

[noohair]

90% looks...

[wkhan_87]

I think both