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Apparently not from what others have told me.
"High quality" is such a subjective and usually self-aggrandizing term. Therefore it is meaningless.
Preferences in women are also subjective.
Personally, I hate tats and piercings. That stuff is self mutilation and lowers a woman's value in my eyes.
Regarding debt, I guess it depends on why she is in debt. Does she have student loans, car payments, or did she just run up credit cards irresponsibly?
I don't give one flying fuck about virginity.
I would wonder why a woman in her early 20s was still a virgin. She might have religious or cultural issues that would make us incompatible. Or she might have a low libido or some other metal or emotional issue.
Saving herself for marriage would make her undatable.
Healthy women are horny after puberty. They are interested in boys and want a boyfriend.
It's one thing if she has a history of hooking up and fucking random dudes. But it's another thing if she has been in previous relationships that didn't work out.
I much prefer the latter.
I like women. Virgins are little girls. A woman is familiar with her body, thinks sex is special but is matter of fact about it. She loves sex and doesn't think it is taboo or dirty, and she's good at it. She might have experimented when she was young. She gave herself whole heartedly to boyfriends during the infatuation stage while getting to know if they would make suitable marriage partners.
A woman's appearance, grooming and clothing choices are important. But I'm not into modesty if that means looking like she belongs to a religious cult. I'm totally fine with classy, tight-fitting clothes that flatter her body. I don't mind bare skin as long as her bare tits and ass aren't hanging out like a street hooker. I'm totally fine with bikinis.
And yes, it's a plus if she's a good cook and eats healthy food.
My idea of a high quality man or woman is someone who is bright, curious, open minded, sensible, mentally stable, has self esteem, good character and ethics, is hard working and motivated, cares for their self, has good taste and looks good, is empathetic, kind, courteous, caring, honest and loyal. .
Generally, yes. And for the vast majority of guys character will outmatch looks as well. Most of us who are looking for marriage are fully aware that over 20, 30, or more years the complexion will be replaced with lines, the perky boobs could be anywhere from sternum to knees and those silky thighs will develop cellulite.
We don't care.
Looks can go in a heartbeat. Dammit, at 17 I was a dancer who could press my bodyweight with my arms and 300kg/660lbs with my legs. At 53 I can lift half my bodyweight - just more often - and I'm down to one leg and a titanium prosthetic.
I got lucky. I was married 21 years to the love of my life until she died last year. If I am fortunate enough to meet someone else her character - which is demonstrated partly in her not trying to keep up with some Only Fans virtual prostitute - means most to me. I'm under no illusion that I'll meet a virgin within 20 years of my own age, but someone with more feet than exes would definitely be a huge plus.
Just look up who prince Harry married... Ther's also a Scandinavian prince who married an ex prostitute, Kind Charles who married a divorcee (and preferred her over a young virgin woman...).
"High value" men are usually confident and good in their skin they're not gonna care about such stuff, those stuff are more what the average guy care about than those rich dude.
A guy that go out a lot, have fiends, etc... is not gonna want to be hold back by a virgin girl that know nothing of the worlds (and if he's into it he's gonna marry a family friend daughter rather than random girl).
Lower self esteem men prefer virgin / quiet women becuase it make them feel more confident / secure in the relationship becuase she chosed him over the others so it boost their confidence or make their trust issue lower. "High value" men don't have trouble with low confidence or trust issue so they''re not gonna bother train a young virgin girl.
The debt free stuff is a very American stuff though cause I have never in my life heard of it xD
A high quality person prefers to be around other high quality people. Period.
While it's sweet to think that an untouched woman would be desirable to a guy who is considered high value, the guy who is ACTUALLY high value will have enough life experience to want a reasonable woman who can appreciate that experience alongside him.
A guy who insists on an untouched woman is a bit of a red flag; it's a sign of his insecurity and his desire to be that woman's "everything"; his confidence in the relationship hinges on her innocence and the fact that she doesn't know enough to know if he's capable, etc. (in various departments).
Keep believing that bs, we men do not care about a woman's wealth, we will and do date down. It is you women, that look to date at what you think is your level or date up. Very few of you will date down, even when dating down would put you at the level you really are.
You women need to stop talking bs to each other and putting your believes and values on a man, when you have no clue about what men value and look for in a woman he is looking to commit to and build a family with.
It does not matter if 10,000 women tell you something about what men want. You need to disregard what you think, and listen to what men have to say about what we look for in a quality woman. Because what you women think makes you a quality women, is no where near what we men consider the treats of a quality woman let alone what we consider a high quality woman.
Here is a golden nugget for you, but I know you will disregard it. Body count matters, a virgin is the holy grail, after that. The lower a woman's body count is, the higher her value.
Your body count and sexual experience do not matter, only when a man is looking to have sexual fun. The freakier you are the better, but what we look for in a sex buddy is not what we look for in a life partner.
Told saying still holds true, their are 2 types of women. The girl you fuck and have fun with, and the girl you marry and build a life and family with. Here is another, once a whore, always a whore. Just because you may one day decide you are no longer a whore, you will always be a whore to the men you where getting your experience with.
@Bricealan so says the simp, that says what he knows a girl wants to hear, but that girl is not going to ever have sex with him.
@Bricealan LOL, I am not bitter and my life is not fucked up with booze and drugs. I also can speak the truth to women, instead of lying to them and reinforcing the delusions they have about what makes a woman of value to a man.
You know what you have said is bs, and it is pandering to female delusion.
@JesseP1nk — you went from virgin to prostitute? Wow. Whatever’s broken in your mind isn’t something anyone here can fix. What a dirtbag.
The exception to the last paragraph is that while incels exist, there are also other high quality people who simply do not live an 'enough life experience' lifestyle by choice, and want a partner with similar goals, values, and lifestyle like them.
If they are themselves holding on to a certain value, it is xpected they qualify a compatible partner based on that value as well.
Meanwhile, what is unacceptable is people to lie, manipulate, and misrepresent their values in order to marry someone they deem 'high value' but are incompatible with due to conflicting values and goals.
@Bricealan Don't feed the trolls. He has nothing else to do but hop on here and crawl up the a** of others. Poor guy. Pray for him to get a life.
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1. debt free - I prefer women who control their spending and live within their means, but that doesn't mean debt free.
2. virgins - I am far from being a virgin and would not expect more from a partner than she could expect from me. I just don't want her to be a slut.
3. without tattoos - yes, I think tattoos look horrible on both men and women.
4. dress modestly - yes, if you are not a slut, don't dress like a slut
5. can cook - that is a plus, but I can cook, so this isn't a dealbreaker
@bddddd Okay. . .
It really depends but some of these women pretend to be someone they’re not. People of high value want someone whose high value what specificity someone is wanting Is different for everyone. People of value want someone who enriches their lives as well as can add value to theirs.
You will only loose value by being romantic or sexual with those who have bad morals. Value isn’t just financially either but speaking of that a man whose responsible with his money wants a woman whose also financially responsible not someone whose going to be a drain. You don’t have to be rich to be responsible but having someone to support you could mean doing things such as helping planning the budget among other things.
Two people of quality add to one another’s lives. Someone who is low value takes away from your life. People are low quality by CHOICE
Sure it sounds fun but I'm looking for someone that is happy. With a beautiful heart wise smart and cares about what's going on in the world
True, if you drop the virgins part. Real men are not obsessed with a woman being a virgin.
@bddddd all meat i believe has parasites if undercooked. I think hebrews & Muslims not eating pork is more to do with the climate than anything.
Yes, but pig flesh is like human flesh. Parasites that live in pigs can live in humans. Not true of chickens, cows, ducks, deer, fish etc.
Yea what’s a high quality man? I only like girls’ that what to be my team partner , that work together not against each other
Define a high quality man. What traits are required?
@HawkPerception Oh, here we go...'define a high quality man' ? How astute of you to ask? Duh
@Bricealan Okay then, can you define it for me?
My personal priorities...
Debt Free - Yes, someone who can't manage money is dangerous and WILL destroy a relationship.
Virgin - No, absolutely not. I would much rather meet a woman who has already made all their mistakes with another guy and gotten through their sexual hang ups before they get to me. Adult female babysitting is not my thing.
Dress Modestly - Hell No. Have a personality and a sense of style. Dress hot. But with a class. And know your venue. Jeans and sneaks are OK and can be done well too. I'm not the insecure or jealous type. Look your best. I try to have the same standards for myself.
Cooking - Yes and No. I think everyone should know how to feed themselves. Any man over the age of 21 who cannot cook at least basic meals is not a man IMHO. I don't need a woman to feed me. But it would be nice if we both pitched in to cook and clean up afterwards. If you're cooking, I'm in there cleaning right behind you as we go. Setting the table, getting the drinks. If you cooked, I've got the dishes afterwards. And vice versa. Teamwork.
Tattoos - Yeah, I'm afraid so. Not necessarily a deal killer. Especially if it's one or two and well chosen for something meaningful in your life. But dozens of random images covering your arms, legs, and neck, tramp stamps, just scream too many wild nights at the bar next to the tattoo parlor. Not my thing. It looks trashy, not edgy or cool.
Debt free - BIG YES. I want a woman smart about money.
Virginity - depends. If we were young and both virgins then ok. If you just had relationships that didn't work out - then ok. If you partied hard and are now trying to settle down, then most likely no. I don't care for sexual past as much as the motivation behind the relationship and the goals, and the kind of person you are.
Tattooed - once again not as much the what but the why. My default answer may lean towards no tattoos, but it can depend greatly on who you are and why you have them.
Modestly dressed - also depends on the why. If you dress to seek attention, or are immature, or don't understand proper boundaries then I am not interested. If you know when to dress sexy appropriately, and only do so for us, and don't give a fuck about the rest of the world - then I wouldn't care if you showed up naked.
Cooking - I am not a great cook, so if you can cook it would be very appreciated, or we will need to figure out how to feed ourselves healthily some way or another.
Debt and tattoos are hallmarks of poor impulse control that will make any long-term relationship difficult and often unhappy.
The rest of the items do not matter to me at all. It is normal to have sex with someone you love even if you don't end up married to them for 50 years. I don't care how you dress. I enjoy cooking, so whether a partner does or doesn't is not an issue for me
@bddddd nothing is a hallmark of anything. There are cultural and fashion trends in a community that become popular with people of certain demographics, but I am not interested in people who follow any fad to begin with... let alone the group that would make long term relationships difficult and unhappy.
Everything is a hallmark of everything. We can haggle about how important one is, but everything plays into who you kiss, who you date and who you marry
I am willing to bet, the others that have told you. Were females and not males, because the number of males that have stopped dating and are embracing being single and not having any ķind of romantic or sexual relationships says something else.
I know a few guys that are considered high quality men by females, and women chase after them. These guys sex the tattooed up, high body count lose, single girls, single moms. But they do not have long turm, commited relationships with them.
Even the guys that are tattooed up themselves, when they are ready to stop being the man whore. They chose if not a virgin, a very low body count woman that is not tattooed up, or pierced up with no kids to settled down with. Add to that, they also look at younger earĺy 20's fertial females.
More and more the high quality man is also looking for a girl with triditional values, one that cooks can take care of a house and wants to stay at home and take care of her family.
Absolutely, that is what high-value men prefer.
If nothing else, look at tattoos. Lack of tattoos, debt-free virgins, modest dress, and can cook go together like peaches and cream.
Do first ladies have tattoos? No. Does royalty have tattoos? No. Do wives of CEOs have tattoos? No. Who has tattoos? Trailer trash, OnlyFans, and other hoes.
@MysteriousDarkness You have it backwards. Not every woman with a tattoo is a hoe. However, all hoes have tattoos.
I feel like you've hear a bald red pill influener spit ridiculous " facts" about a woman's value? 🤔
If he's a retired hoe explaining to men and women that a woman's worth is wrapped up in her "innocence"... he's a whole ass predator. A dirty one at that.
On the other hand, a Christian man looking for these qualities while holding the same standards himself... makes sense.
I like a woman that has experienced life, definitely not a virgin, I like someone that knows her way around the bedroom, kinky desires and open to try new things. Some debt is normal and expected as long as she's not in deep. Tattoos are pretty common and I find some interesting, especially if the art is good and tasteful. I like when a woman dresses a little slutty, revealing her assets and a hint of her wild side right upfront, no surprises. I'm hoping she can cook but it's not a deal breaker as I'm a very good cook and enjoy it, just nice if we can trade off in the kitchen once in a while. Last thing I want is a prude or very conservative woman, that'd be no fun at all and probably restrict our options for exploring our relationship. This is just my opinion and open to change as life goes on.
No. "High quality" men (entirely subjective, by the way) have whatever preferences they favour on an individual basis.
Personally I favour:
#1. Debt-free, okay, because nobody needs money trouble.
#2. Experienced, because virgins are basically crap and too tight.
#3. WITH Tattoos, as long as they're not just random graffiti. Something really artistic is best.
#4. That dress mostly the same way I do: mostly in black, metal band t-shirts, etc.
#5. Cooking isn't necessary but I don't really care. I can handle food myself.
It real simple. Men and women are NOT equal.
Sexual experience for women is a negative. Sexual Experience for a man is positive.
Being in debt is negative for both men and women, yet Men are still expect to PROVIDE.. REGARDLESS OF HOW MUCH DEBT HE HAS.. WOMEN ARE NOT EXPECT TO PROVIDE THE BULK OF FINANCES FOR A LONG TERM RELATIONSHIP.
Finally being covered in tattoos is not accept by most men for long term relationship. Sure men will have sex with women covered in tattoos for 1 night or situationship. but not for long term.
So when a man has the option of choosing a Woman with no bodies (Virgin), no Debt (no student loans) , and no Tattoos
vs
A woman with 1 body (Non virgin) , Debt (Student loans) and cover in Tattoos (Only fans) it not a hard choice to choose
DEBT FREE VIRIGN WOMAN WITH NO TATTOOS is a THE BEST DEAL A MAN CAN GET !! NO APOLOGY !!
Men don't give a shit if a woman is a virgin unless it's some religious thing. Most men don't even ASK about body count if they're enamored with a girl. They will TELL you they care for the sake of a poll, but it's bullshit. They don't care if she dresses modestly either, so long as she doesn't dress like a whore.
Tattoos are a personal preference thing as to what a guy will "tolerate" on a woman. Cooking is also a minor deal. Any guy these days telling you he wants a "trad wife" can't really afford one anyway.
Absolutely not. The one thing porn has taught me is virgins always have tattoos and usually intimate piercings and debt is their main motivation to sleep with high quality guys like landlords.
Yes and the pizza you order has extra sausage
@gwendoline I prefer a debt free WOMAN without tattoos that knows how to dress for any occasion with class, and she doesn't need to know how to cook. I prefer a woman who is NOT a virgin, and hopefully sexually experienced.
Or just a standard, average woman 80 years ago.
Now it is like finding some magic unicorn.
Now the majority of women are tattooed, pierced, promiscuous, foul mouthed, partiers, has had a hoe phase, argumentative, masculine, immodest, obsessed with materialism, obsessed with social media and on line attention and likes and comments.
When you have to people fall in love it doesn’t really matter the external appearance or how many people they slept with prior trying to find the right match.
If you have common ground, share some hobbies / interests, you enjoy eachother’s company, and you both put in the effort to make it work then it is a good relationship.
’High quality men’, there are low men who try to seduce virgins just to be the first that sleeps with them what kind of high quality is that? Also tattoos? It depends on the tattoo. If the tattoo is a small butterfly on a place that is barely noticeable, I’m sure a guy or gal can look past that to be clear.
I don’t like tattoos on women, though if it is one or two and isn’t noticeable I won’t just dump her for that or reconsider my decision of love. All depends on things and if I truly love her I’ll stick with it, putting in the effort to get it done.
Depends on what you mean by high quality men. The male equivalent of debt free virgins with no tattoos or piercings is a man whos tall, financially stable, fit, and emotionally wise. I dont think id ever consider myself high value cause its sounds egocentric tbh but im 6'2", fit, relaxed, and financially make 50k a year basically and have only ever slept with one person. Personally idgaf about tattoos or piercings unless they're something weird like "I ❤️ satan" lol, if she's got bad debt then Idc because I dont believe in joint bank accounts anyway. As for body count as long as hers isn't higher than mine idc.
Only part of that i care about is the part about her sleeping around
As that type of a woman, I can safely say they DON’T. They chase white. Virgin or not. I know one who kicked a virgin and then served a 2 dollar whore all night. He gets especially angry if you say anything about his favourite alcoholic whores. This is why most white girls aren’t actually what you say they are. It’s because they don’t have to be in order to have a slave.
It’s normal for a white man to like his own community but the slave complex of non-whites is the real issue innocent non-white women like me deal with. The goal is to justify his nastiness by painting the more innocent non-white woman as the bad one. The goal is to irritate her to get a normal human’s negative reaction out of her and then say she’s bad.
Males don’t respect good women. They respect white skin.
I dated a girl that was a bartender. She was a big drinker and owed money all over town. She never went to college and was living with a friend and her boyfriend. Her whole life revolved around drinking and partying. It really was a lot of fun for a while and I am glad I had the experience but it was never going to amount to anything.
I think men in general prefer that although a lot of them don't want to admit it because their chances of success with dating is already slim so they rather tell you a lie to please you instead of being honest. We have a lot of beta males in our society today. They are desperately looking for female attention and they only tell woman what they want to hear
I must not be a high quality man since I do not fit your example. I do not care if she can cook, I can. I do not care if she has tattoos, I do not… I do not care how she dresses…. What I do care about is if she is trustworthy, willing to work to make the relationship work as much as I am…. Is she willing to work to help support a family? Not that she has to but is she willing to if need be? See some of those things that is important to you are not important to me. But to be honest, that doesn’t make me a low quality man.
Debt free - Yes.
Virginity - Yes, because I'm a virgin.
Tattooed - Without. But that doesn't mean I criticize those that have.
Modesty - surely, modesty catches my attention whole heatedly..
Cooking - I can cook almost all my local dishes so yes, she must at least know how to cook something.
I definitely do not view myself as high value but I'll try my best and break it down
Debt Free
I am so the same would be nice but as long as I'm not paying for it then I could live with it
Virginity
I'm not and would value experience as a submissive myself
Tattooed
Modest, tasteful with meaning I could live with
Plastered, obscene I'd probably have to say no
Modestly Dressed
Not too much as to be puritan but not gratuitous either
Cooking
I can cook pretty well so it's less of a key issue to me
Number one, if she's a virgin, I'm not interested. Two, I consider it my responsibility to pay her bills, as well as any outstanding debts she may have, and three, I don't want her to feel obligated to do any cooking, cleaning or any other household chores whatsoever.
When you Say... HIGH QUALITY, sounds like you want to CHASE, the High Class, but Bare in Mind that The HIGH CLASS, also has HIGH Wealth, which at the "certain point" he will get "bored" of his (obedient house wife), and he will Run to Chase Thrill & Fun (with another woman), and from there it will Start to go... Just Downhill...
No general rule
Also no such thing as “high quality men” since quality itself is a two sided coin
Everyone has good and bad
Young debt free virgins are in fact desirable but that doesn’t mean a woman who isn’t that is instantly discarded
If you want to get married and have children, what better bet than the girl who hasn't made a lot of poor choices to start out her life with and likely has both parents?
No. I really really don't understand some people's fascination with virgins. Why do people think that a virgin is special? I don't imagine that they go for surgery to a surgeon who has never performed surgery. They wouldn't take their car to a mechanic who is never worked on a car. 🤷🏼♂️
Not sure how to define "high quality." Some think wealthy, others think high integrity. In any event, people prefer what they prefer. Some undoubtedly "prefer debt free virgins without tattoos" but so do a lot of scoundrels. As long as she is faithful to me, her past is of little concern aside from any uncurable STD/STI she might have contracted.
It would be nice if you were with someone because of who they are and not some stupid invented checklist.
LoL DishLady got butthurt and blocked me. What makes her think she has the right opinion on things and anyone else who does not agree with her is a dirtbag? Are you sure your life is so perfect that you are right person to give advice to others?
I dont know however I can tell you I prefer a women who is stable on her own without me I can understand in marrige if she leans on me because thats normal but if we are dating she needs to be able to be stable financially
It all depends on what the guy is looking for, if he is looking for a wife to build a future with then yeah it's kinda true. If he is looking for meaningless sex then he won't care at all.
I think it's weird men with fake morals who push so many traits a woman must possess to be deemed worth something. It's bad, even more so about the virgin thing. You can make a 100% bet that guy is not a virgin and has a weird porn history.
I'm sure they prefer such girls, like girls prefer multi billionaires with bodies of underwear models.
Yes and no. It is the ideal but it has been rebelled against so strongly we no longer believe it exists. So when we are told that is what we are seeing we think it is a lie or a trap.
I am sure someone somewhere really is selling a genuine rolex at a garage sale for like $200. If you saw that for sale would you buy it?
Even when I was a Virgin, a woman being a Virgin was never a big deal to me.. But dressing modestly and being debt free definitely.. But for actual "high quality" men I would guess that would be preferred..
I'd have to say good men want a woman without a past. Meaning we want someone who doesn't have a giant body count, who doesn't bring more burden into the relationship and things like that.. So debt free for sure.
I'd say the above is true. If you're a burden to your boyfriend or husband (meaning you bring a shit ton of baggage, and debt) then don't expect to find a good man.
This is a pretty loaded question. I mean sure, but only if she is also rich, has a perfect body and zero mental issues.
Do you think quality women prefer rich/debt free, emotionally available, muscular handsome men?
Come on.
Forgetting the virgin part a big YES absolutely.
Debt free virgins without tattoos, that dress modestly & can cook for serious relationships?
Obviously.
For me though, cooking is not the one that's a big deal.
No I don't think that.
Quality men most of all have specified their expectations without consulting mainstream chatter
Men in general prefer that. Doesn't have to be a virgin. But being modest and not a slut sure helps. being able to cook is a basic human skill. Everyone should be able to. It'd be weird if she couldn't.
That’s not true as I’m all of that and never had a serious relationship. Men only look at how big a girls butt is and they chose that for a serious relationship.
A good or a high quality guy eill always prefer the girl who is like him or little bit up or down.
I honestly am not too worried about her being a virgin. Debt free is nice. I do prefer few or no tatoos, because I have yet to find a situation where taroos make a girl more attractive
Debt free without tattoos is a winner. Virginity and cooking are fairly unimportant for most men.
All of those things are beneficial than the alternative; so I would think so. But then I was never in tune with the desires of society; so I could be wrong.
I disagree.
Taking on a female who is carrying debt means that I take on that debt. No.
Virginity? eh. However a high body count is a bad sign. She will never be happy with any one man.
Of course they do if you think otherwise that's copium.
No I think high quality men prefer a woman with intelligence a great personality and a good sense of humor who loyal that know how to treat a man.
I don't care about tattoos which is some weird af religiously motivated preference
Well... you certainly won't hurt your chances by being those things.
A Virgin is boring and no tattoos is boring. Not a slut or a human mannequin, but a prude does not arise
That might be a realistic expectation for some guys in their teens or early 20's, but not after that age.
I really don't know, but that sounds like a very clean woman.
It depends on the definition of "high quality" men. Most of what many women today label as high quality men are not high quality. As evidenced by their repeated failures.
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