What’s the obsession with people thinking every woman should cook and clean? If so, why don’t those types of women have rich husbands or boyfriends so they don’t have to work and can be housewives? Or if that’s the case, why doesn’t society pressure men to be rich?
Great question — it really highlights a double standard.
People push the idea that women should cook and clean because of outdated gender roles. But you're right: if a woman’s expected to be a “traditional” housewife, where’s the matching pressure for men to be traditional providers? Often, that part gets conveniently ignored.
Truth is, times have changed. Most people can't afford to live on one income, and many women want more than just being someone's maid. Relationships should be partnerships — not a one-sided deal based on old-school expectations.
Gender roles aren’t outdated. Women bear our children, men don’t give birth. Humans are sexually dimorphic
I don't know honestly, it's an outdated 1950s mentality. Everyone should do their part in cleaning and cooking, regardless of sex/gender.
Thank you. We need more men like you!
They don’t want men like you
@LiftingFencer I do
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Number one it’s insulting to genuine traditional women who do a lot more then simply cooking and cleaning. If I worked 70 hours a week and all my wife did was cook and clean that sounds miserable and seems like me getting the short end of the stick.
I have nothing against more traditional relationships if that’s what both people are wanting. However, it’s a lot harder (on both sides) then most people think. There are narcissistic women who think they got a easy ride in life and become resentful when it’s not all they thought it would be or as glamorous.
Why don’t these women have the kind of men they want? Because these women don’t have much to offer. So they get passed over especially by men who have better options. A lot of these women want the benefits of being a traditional wife without any of the downsides. All the take. None the give.
Eventually, after being passed over enough times. Either they settle for someone they are resentful towards or become resentful of men maybe even jump to the other extreme of being a feminist.
At the end of the day all men and women are different therefore they want different things. Some people just aren’t compatible with one another but people who become frustrated they haven’t found their person yet become angry and resentful towards the same and opposite sex. Because they’re jealous and have a deep sense of entitlement.
In the rare case these women do lock down that type of marriage. They hardly last. Affairs sometimes by one spouse, or the other, some cases both. Someone either looses their money and everything to someone who never earned a dime of it. Or the other one becomes homeless. With kids… with years of no work experience or education.
@cora1 exactly
@cora1 that’s the thing too financially this relationship works well if the man is mentally and physically exhausted after work. As well as making enough money to where two salaries aren’t needed.
Most these relationships don’t work because people aren’t wanting them for the right reasons. They think they will be easy both men and women who have this idea of what it’s like until they really get in one
Having a man’s children and caring for them and feeding them and giving him a legacy is priceless.
@LiftingFencer now that is true. In a legitimate traditional relationship both people are working equally hard in different roles.
There are couples where they both work at minimum 40 hours sometimes more. But the man refuses to help around the house.
There are women who sit on their ass all day doing Jack shit.
@cora1 and any woman with a uterus can have babies. Doesn’t mean all those women make good mothers. Same with men who have a cock and balls can make babies doesn’t mean they’re all good fathers.
Finding a good parent for your kids is SO important. You choose the person you marry. Your kids don’t. So finding a woman who will love and care for not only her husband but also her kids is extremely important
@cora1 acting decently is a choice every human being MAN or WOMAN has to make for themselves. There is good and bad of both sexes and it’s not fair to say all of one sex or the other is bad because of the bad examples.
Yes, good people in general in some areas can seem harder to find lucky I live in a area where the good outweighs the bad
Who is "people"? This is a very pre-burning-of-the-bra mentality. Today you're sort of lucky if a person knows which end of the toaster is up... guys AND gals.
It was surprising back in the '40s/'50s if a gal didn't know how to cook... but then sexual liberation brought about that generation of women who literally didn't know how to butter toast...
There's nothing wrong with knowing how to cook. There's nothing sexist about wanting to be with someone who knows how to cook. Guys instinctively crave FOOD and SEX... Let's not make a big deal out of it.
Well if your dating that type of guy I would think about it again because it means he's lazy and wants you to cater to him and that's cool... you have a mind a brain and what you do with it us your choice. Be a leader in your own way
u EVERYONE should know how to cook and clean. And wash laundry.
Well first of all everyone should know how to cook and clean, that’s just part of life. Unless you plan on being a slob all your life and eating take out w everyday. Besides cleaning isn’t an everyday thing that’s for sure. You’re not on your hands and knees scrubbing the floors, washing the walls, Most houses have dish washers these days as well as a washer and drier. So unless you’re down by the creek washing clothes by hand you’re not even really doing much other then loading said dishwasher or washing machine. You’re not hauling water to your house to do those types of chores. Amazing how we live in the society we live today and people like you still complain inside your air conditioned house serving to work in your air conditioned car. If you’re. Also the. T hats on you. If your man is a slob then that’s on you for picking a man of that low of a caliber. Society expects a lot from men as well, especially from women. Let’s see, we’re expected to die for worn. We’re expected to give up our seats for women. We’re expected to let women and children go on hostage situations. We’re expected to do the yard work, fix cars, fight on your behalf if someone disrespects you even though it may not be disrespectful at all. We’re expected to pay a majority of the bills. We’re expected to go check on a noise in the middle of the night. But you wouldn’t know this because you’re not a man. These are things that aren’t expected of you. We’re expected to accept a lot of women who aren’t even worth accepting as far as partners. We’re expected to accept women who have been glean through. Expected to date fat women, if we don’t we’re fatphobic or transphobic for not dating trans women. A lot do women expect men to open their doors for them, to lift heavy things for them. Women in general expect men to step in for a complete stranger when some dude is kicking her ass on the street. There’s a lot of things society expects from men. Guarantee if we switched roles women wouldn’t like it. Sure I’ll take being inside over being outside in the dead of summer where it’s currently 116 degrees. You can get up on an 18 foot ladder and cut the trees, plant seeds, set traps for gophers, cut the grass which is about 1/3 the size of a football field, fox things on the house, build this build that. Id rather be inside where I’m cool, making me a sandwich and watching tv while the laundry washes, then I toss it in the drier, wait another 45 minutes or so for it to dry then fold it which takes about 20 minutes.
I never complained
Yeah! What the fuck is with that, women can't even do that right! Society does pressure the men to be rich... it's just they can't just go out and do it anymore like your stupid Boomer or Gen X parents was able to do.
Now you can get college, career, and job way easier than the men. Feminism has saved you from staying at home! Find a cute guy that will get fat to stay at home while you work your ass off and pay taxes!
Don't you dare start judging the fat men that do nothing and sit around the house. Feminism fought hard for you to work for paying taxes. Other women bitched enough for you to be able to enjoy this just like us men... enjoy. it. Keep digging that hole deeper for your gender... feminism... it's the dream you never really wanted.
Traditional conservative gender norms.
That's literally it.
Some people want to forever abide by certain things regardless if they become outdated (which they have) or not.
So to them, women have to cook, clean, take care of children, wear skirts and dresses, wear makeup, little girls have to play with dolls, etc.
And men have to work, play sports, be physically strong, protect the rest of the family, wear pants, like beer and meat, little boys have to play with cars, etc.
And some people just don't wanna break out of those associations.
When I moved out on my own, cleaning, in particular, was a necessity. I was careful not to make a big mess, but I cleaned up after myself and kept my place neat and tidy. Dusting, vacuuming, and doing laundry isn't a problem.
I did some cooking but, honestly, didn't make a lot of home-cooked meals for myself.
The ability to cook is a really good skill to have. My mom never taught me. She wasn't the greatest cook anyway.
So, I say that knowing how to clean is a no brainer. I wouldn't want to live with someone who was a pig.
And a good cook is worth their weight in gold.
If two people in a relationship both work full time, they need to share household chores. It's fantastic if one or both of them know how to make delicious meals.
If the man is the sole bread winner, the wife needs to keep up the house and make meals. What else is she going to do, sit around and wait for him to get home from work?
People just want women to start contributing in a relationship instead of being mostly worthless like the majority of them are. Most women only cause stress and drain a man's resources and make his life much WORSE, not better. They don't contribute nearly as much to a relationship or society as men do and people are getting sick of it.
And to have a traditional wife doesn't mean a man needs to be rich. That is why so many greedy selfish western women are being left behind because they are just a bunch of parasites that can easily be replaced by millions of morally better women around the world.
Society DOES pressure men to make money otherwise they're always regarded as unworthy, ESPECIALLY by women. Women at least have the means to have children so have automatic status in society, a status that is generally improved when they marry and become supported by a man.
A woman is encouraged to be good at turning a house into a home for a family as this is a generally part of a woman's inherent traits to look after others. Cooking and cleaning would be part of that.
Every adult should be able to cook and clean though just in case they are on their own, or their partner is unable to carry out those functions.
Part of it is your up bringing if your rise in a home were the woman dose all the cooking, cleaning and gives birth you're more likely to want that type of lifestyle for yourself when you get older. But if a man wants that type of lifestyle he's going to have to make good money cause a 2 person income doesn't always make ends meet any more.
I don’t want that lame life style
Yeah
It’s a basic necessity to life, you have to eat and you have to know how to clean the place you live, it has nothing to do with marriage, but it’s definitely a pro that a lot of men appreciate. But don’t think of it like that automatically, it’s definitely mostly something for your own well being.
This goes for both genders.
Society, feminism has already pressured generations of women to be rich and the breadwinners. How can they expect men to do better if they leave no room for anyone? Wanting dominance in the work force, but refusing to work at home equally on a traditional relationship. I've had home economics as a class years and years ago.
Its basically cooking, cleaning, learned to use a sewing machine, etc... Before that I've heard from people that experienced it; they're used to be schools where people learned how to throw house parties, setting up the table, cooking, cleaning, etc... but it was for women only. Now nothing like that is taught, and if it's being taught its probably so obscure and remote.
This goes both ways. You don't want to be traditional? Great support it 100%. Then men shouldn't be required to be traditional.
Since they do not have to provide finances, they do not need to seek wealth. Each take care of their own finances and needs separately.
Everyone should know how to cook and clean
When you stop being a kid you can’t be dependent on others to handle these things for you
And society DOES pressure men to be rich
Being poor is met with distaste and disinterest
Not everyone IS rich but everyone is expected to be else he’s a failure
What's the obsession with women thinking men have to do all the yardwork, even after working a full day? Of course you can just reverse rolls and you work and do the yard and he will do the cooking and cleaning. There are many house husbands that do exactly that, and taking care of 3 kids too.
If you are an adult you should cook and clean. It doesn't matter if you are a man or woman. You could be dirt poor and you still have to eat a couple times a day and you still need to clean your place no matter how small it is. The fact that you don't understand that means you haven't reached adulthood. Being a basic adult doesn't land you a rich mate.
m If most people around you is claiming that, then the problem comes from your location because this idea is only trending in (very) conservative areas.
If you're not living in a conservative country/region then you just need to reach the nearest city to realise that people are veeeery different than what you initially thought
Aside from berry picking, cooking and cleaning was what the girls did in the tribal days whilst the guys were out spearing kangaroos.
You also ground flour from the seeds you gathered. We are not asking for that now.
Just recently stone age art was found of a woman putting clothes away and neatening up the cave. So yeah cleaning the cave has always been a female task.
What makes you think men aren't under pressure to bring home the bacon? We always have been.
Everyone should know basic life skills like cooking and cleaning. But also to say that traditional housewives only cook and clean is insulting they do a far more then that.
why doesn’t society pressure men to be rich?
It does society has always pressured men to be finically successful/rich more so now then ever before.
I want to learn how to cook.
Girls, Have you ever made a homemade pie. Did you use the canned pie filling, what is your recipe?
Look at you being all motherly! It's a good look on you.
"Everyone"? It only takes one exception to debunk that claim.
And it just so happens I do not believe women should cook and clean... or at least no more than any living person has to clean up after themselves and prep their own food. I certainly wouldn't expect anyone to handle those things on my behalf.
If you cook as good as your mom does then you wouldn’t feel it a chore. Ain’t no man in their mind can ever reject a meal from spouse, or mom, or any female relative.
However, if you think you’re not a great cook and he likes to cook that could be your dynamic and it will work out fine.
Important thing is, to get to know one another before having said expectations
It's a symbiosis: we take the things away that distract him from his best success. That way we share in his triumphs as time goes on. He can excel at life because we took the house chores away. But then we get to benefit from his expanded success.
Win-win!
Wife her up guys!
I don’t think they think that at all! This sounds very 1950s and outdated. Everyone can cook, everyone should help clean.
Have you seen a man cook and clean? Once you see them you will understand that we just do it better 😅
If he pays all the bills and let's me go on shopping spree I will cook and clean all day
if I’m putting a roof over their head and they’re living there for free in my house? What are they gonna do not cook either? Am I a free lottery ticket for them? They have to help out
It's an outdated ethos. Common male ethos is a man needs to be the bread winner.
who's everyone? and nobody expects anything from women anymore these days
men are still expected to uphold their traditional gender roles regardless of political beliefs
A good woman cooks and cleans and a real man provides and protects
People need to eat. Women have become toxic as all hell due to decades of communist-feminist propaganda and now smart phones and social media have upped that behavior to level hell.
What about some men? Its literally men who have a fixation with virgin women?
Yeah, if a guy has the money for a new truck why would he want a certified pre-fucked used truck?
Double standards
Because they should. And bear and raise children. And serve their husbands sexually.
I don't think I heard that enough to say everyone does, I think it a minority that do
Personally I would rather do the cooking or cook with her as I love to cook.
Every adult should be able to know how to cook and clean.
Adults should cook and clean. Guys and girls. Why wouldn’t adults be able to do these tasks?
Everyone should be able to cook and clean. Those are rudimentary basic skills.
It used to be practical since men werent at home most of times and women were unemployed. But now it depends
I've never once heard that except about the 1950s.
That's amazing. I've never seen a pink non that was more clueless than this. It's almost like you're trying to be backwards.
I'd rather a fair share of housework by both sexes 😃👀😋
Republicans think that's what women are supposed to do
Every woman should cook and clean. It’s called being a functioning adult.
A minority of men say that, but for the most part women are encouraged to do whatever they want.
understood it's basically White Male Supremacist's Toxic Patriarchy and Pimpism
I never had that obsession, I don't support patriarchy, I always support women's rights.
Umm because cooking and cleaning are basic life skills duh
You mean what's the obsession with women having basic life skills? Gee i don't know you tell me
Maybe it's called being an adult & doing adult things
Not talking about basic skills
Actually you were
No I wasn’t
I was talking about how some men expect women to cook and clean but most of these men aren’t traditional or have enough money
Whatever you say buttercup
It’s literally the in my context for the question
I honestly haven’t noticed that obsession
Society does pressure men to be rich
Are you having a laugh?
Everyone should be capable and willing to do both
They should be able to, and so should men.
S-E-X-I-S-M !!!
They can't protect and kill worth a damn.
They should just bend down get fucked... LOL
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