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I have a few ideas that I'm going to suggest like they are truth, but the truth is that I have noticed what you are talking about and I don't know the answer. This was my philosophy back when I was looking for a woman:
I wanted a woman for the long haul. There isn't much about me or anyone else that isn't subject to change over a large span of time. Anyone who knew after 5 seconds of interaction or a glance across a room that I wasn't what they wanted was being, well, foolish. (Not because I was necessarily wonderful but just because I knew they couldn't possibly know anything meaningful one way or the other from that amount of contact.) I guess what I am saying is that if she wasn't both open-minded and interested enough in finding a good mate to make it at least non-painful for me to get to know her better, she was most likely not what I wanted.
I guess you could say that I felt that if I had to chase, I was chasing someone who wasn't realistic enough to be long-term partner material.
I am not sure where the blame if any lies? I do know that I have over the years always had been the aggressive one in seeking a girl! It is true that toady more and more women are taking control and even feminizing their Husbands! Many women have lost that femininity that makes men wild! It's more about controlling men and what they do! I let my wife feminize me after I had discovered she was covertly spiking my beverages with hormones! Many of the guys I know from work are in their 20's and 30's said they only seem to find women who are "Gold Diggers" Just wanting a guy to spend money on them or do favors of labor for them! (Fix car,or paint or move furniture etc,) Women are taking the pursuit game and just shunning men more and more! Men in turn are becoming complacent about the "Chase" The Challenge" because of being used and or discouraged (turned down)! Understand, this is not a testimonial to men in general but to those I have had conversations about this subject. Be yourself and be open to some flirting and machoism! It's basically the nature of men! Take that away and the need becomes suppressed more and frustration give way to ignoring!
Honestly I have no idea... but I do feel that dating is dead. That's so sad and unfortunate but at least in my experiences, guys don't want legitimate relationships when they're from ages 20-25. Most guys I've met either want to hookup with a hot/dumb girl who they can disrespect WITHOUT feeling guilty about it (well if she's easy, why not? what's wrong with that?) Or they'll settle down with a girlfriend who is EASY to deal with. I just graduated but when I was in college, almost all of the legitimate "couples" I observed had SUCH high school style relationships. Fighting constantly about dumb crap, control issues/struggles, TONS of cheating, and overall neediness on the part of the girls.
I agree with you that overall girls have made it too easy for guys. The fact that "just hooking up" is even an option for guys these days completely changes the game. In past generations, most guys knew that if you wanted a goodlooking and respectable girl, you would most likely have to be her "boyfriend" to get the goodies. These days, people actually AGREE to have relationhips where its a known fact that it's just sex. I think there's a major trend of "women trying to hookup like guys do" and that's really screwed up the dynamics of what guys need to do to "court" or win over a woman. THese days, unfortunatelly, it doesn't take much.
kind of rambled a bit ;) but that's my 2 cents
No you said it just right. That's exactly what I was talking about. I blame TV mostly because women are degraded on there all the time
I think you're both right and wrong. while your generalizations do apply to an unfortunately large number of guys, there are also a large number of them who don't chase for "other" reasons. I myself see a girl making a guy chase her as early evidence that she will be a drama queen later in the relationship. it makes a game out of it and some of us are tired of the games and want it to start off on a somewhat serious note.
Just because guys don't want relationships with _you_ (or with any other particular girl) doesn't mean we don't want relationships.
Men are degraded on TV, too.
Have you _ever_ seen a woman hit in the crotch on television? No, but it happens to men all the time.
Ever see a man slap a woman for cheating? No, but women are constantly shoving, hitting, slapping men on TV.
You know why? Because we are considered the weaker sex and we can't possibly do as much damage physically to a man like a man can do. A man is physically stronger than us and although it does not make it right, women feel they can get away with it more because most men can take a slap. A man does not feel right to hit a woman back after she's slap him because he knows he can hurt her far more worse than she can. So other men grow up seeing this and are taught by there parents 2 never hit a lady
To expand on spelunker's point, Tv is also treating fathers like morons. If you'll notice on these sitcoms, the fathers are braindead idiots. Its very degrading.
Tv shows like the hills ugh. I don't even want to talk about that stinking pile of $%&$
as a man who spent his 20s trying unsuccessfully to get a relationship with a woman, I can honestly say they do not make it to easy on us. now as I am turning 31 I'm done with women and at peace with that decision. it was a long hard choice that took a decade of experience's to come to, I still find women attractive and I'm still lonely but its just a passing thought now mostly. It feels like a huge weight has been lifted no longer being subject to women!
@Jager66 Agreed. I tried in my 20s like you and got burned. Why would I let a woman into my life at 30+ when she didn't want to help me build that life in the first place?
I HATE chasing women when it comes to, I like you, or do I? no I don't.. I want to be with you... basically making me play the chase game along with mind games.
However, I love a challenge. I am currently 19, and am seeking this 38 year old women whos in my first aid class. She was in my Bio class last semester and she sat by me. Yesterday was our first day this semester in first aid, and we had a different room than what it said on our schedule. So the professor had me stand out in the hall making sure everyone who is taking first aid, they get to the right spot. I was a bit shock to see this milf that was in my Bio class to be in my first aid class as well but boy did that get me excited. I had my books in already in the classroom while I was directing the other students. When I finally got back into class I saw that this woman sitting right next to where I had my books. First thing I said to her when I sat down was, You would know where I was sitting. Her response was, Yeah, I'm stalking you. She said it in a joking way not a flirting way. She is twice my age so 99% chance that she thinks of me as a little kid and not someone she could ever be attracted too but still. That's the challenge. Girls my own age, hell women in their mid to late 20's these days aren't really hard to get in a relationship with. But this 38 year old woman is really hard, I can't figure her out. So I am not really playing a chase game, and guys in general never have really liked playing the chase game.. We just like something that's worth a challenge. I was going to say what best answer has said, but there's really no point of me saying what someone else said already... so that's why I told you this story.
Personally, it's because many (not all) women in this society are messed. You have to deal with body image issues, low self-esteem, etc. Also, women are not very feminine, which I think accounts for a lot of the reasons why men won't "invest much in women". What I mean by feminine is that you can easlily find a lot of women these days that are heavy drinkers, pot-smokers, swear, have bad manners, bad attitudes, etc. Add on top that the relationship will probably die like all her relationships before. Is this what a real man would to invest a relationship in?
"Do you think its because we make it too easy for ya'll? there's no real challenge?"
It's easy for the players, they try not to make it look like they are "chasing" after someone so they appear high-value. And of course they would never invest a penny on a women.
I don't think it's that easy as you say, except for sluts who want to get laid. If it's too challenging than a man simply won't waste his time and move on. Usually dorks end-up putting more effort into chasing after that one girl.
Why does a girl got to be slut for wanting to get laid?
(Sigh) I did not say "all girls who want to get laid are sluts" but you falsely assumed that. What I said was "sluts who want to get laid". There's a difference.
Go be a hero somewhere else, there's nothing for you here.
I'm sorry, did you say easy? If it's so easy, why don't I get anything? I wasted my entire college career trying to be social and at least feigning interest so I could get something and all I got were two girls whom I didn't like per my taste, one being a divorced mother and the other being a fat girl who tried to commit suicide before she came to college. And I'll admit, I'm quiet, have a serious demeanor and don't really like to socialize much, but I've seen guys who were way uglier than me and they still had girlfriends, so apparently being social and "putting yourself out there" is what gets you noticed. Again, if being social, friendly and fake is what I have to do to get a woman's attention, I really do prefer being alone than making myself miserable by surrounding myself with generic "fun" people who get on my nerves and doing activities that I just don't see the fun in. Sex and an emotional relationship just aren't worth the tedious, social effort, where everybody is always talking about lame topics, putting on fake smiles, laughing at jokes that clearly aren't funny and saying "hey we should meet up sometime" just out of courtesy and then not really keeping your word. In my experience, people are liars in general, but women end up being just a little worse. Easy my black ass.
There are many factors to consider. 1- MONEY- there's been a shift in financial power in the household. ladies seem more able to support themselves without the direct help of a male. men, in turn, feel less need to put out than in the past. 2-WOMEN- we set the tone for how men treat us. so more and more females don't expect males to chase us or be chivalrous or open doors and pull out seats, therefore, guys don't do it. 3- SOCIAL CHANGE- it's now acceptable for women to chase men, so the playing field has evened out some. years ago, women couldn't even drink at a bar alone for fear of being thought of as a loose, street walker.
Wow. that was really good. The best answer to this question. thanks!
Thanks. On a micro-level, the correlation between education/race/class has also influenced this new attitude. In my circle, there are more available women than men because more AA women are in higher education than their male counterparts. So, these men, to some degree, do not feel the need to compete because they don't need to do so. The men are outnumbered like 10 to 1 or more for all I know. In college, it was 6 to 1.
You are right.
More like 20 to 1 to be realistic
I think that's a little optimistic to think it boils down to guys having too much choice so they don't need to chase because there's too much women to go around.
I do agree with a lot of the points but for different reasons, as a pretty plain to ugly guy with a bit of fat around the bones a guy like me doesn't ask normally due to the ridicule and embarrassment factor being so frequent and a lot of women don't have the guts to just admit they don't fancy you so make you chase them for nothing.
Agreed.
What the hell are you talking about? how are men out-numbered by women? there are even amounts, you are talking nonfactual nonsense. your answer is ridiculous armchair sociology, you have no grounding to say this.
Very broad statements that are untrue with your typical male. Just saying.
You've left out another important factor. Girls have become far too selective. Why should we guys invest our emotions and likely be shot down in a ball of flames by rejected by some stuck-up girl? The "I'm just be friendly." has been worked to death.
I did a little research...
According to more than 200 scientific studies from all over the world, women are *more* likely than men to use physical aggression against a spouse/partner. Men inflict *slightly* more injuries than women. But overall -- when you count all the shoving, hitting, biting, slapping and so on -- women do more of it, do it more often, and do it first. More info here: link
And Polaris80 linked to a scientific study showing what women commit more emotional abuse.
You really want to know why men don't chase girls?
Perhaps because:
-you're *more" likely to abuse us emotionally,
-*more* likely to abuse us physically
-*more* likely to file for divorce when we've not cheated or abused you,
-and *more* likely to get custody and alimony, no matter what you've done.
So sad you believe why yall don't chase is is our fault. I wasn't talking about when meeting a girl. i;m talking about already being in a relationship and she says she's leaving and the guy acts like he don't care, lets her go with no fight to keep her. A lot of guys nowadays don't care to go after a girl if she leaves like its no loss for them or the ego problem mat be cause there are so many fish in the sea. idk.
If a guy doesn't chase a girl, it's probably because he doesn't think she's worth chasing.
If she's leaving, why would he *want* to chase her? So she could play with his heart and leave him again? this isn't a movie. when you toy with men's hearts and commit emotional abuse, there are consequences.
men do not exist to play a role in these little dramas you invent for your amusement.
You never seem to consider the idea that *not all women are worth chasing.* You seem to believe that the fact that you exist means men should throw themselves at you.
But what do you have to offer, apart from sex?
If men keep walking away from someone, it's because they think they're not worth the hassle. The negatives outweigh the positives for them.
Or if the guy is not that into you
There's another problem: you're getting relationship advice from catchphrases off TV shows about sluts who can't pick good men.
Now y do they have to be sluts? I'm so tired of you guys refering to women as the lowest name in the book for what? why did you call them sluts? cause they dress less? or because they date different guys makes them a slut?
I called the SITC characters sluts because they behaved like sluts.
when a man or woman sleeps with lots of people who they don't know well, that's slutty behavior. when they bounce from partner to partner every few weeks or months, they're behaving like sluts.
slutty behavior has negative consequences, ranging from STDs to pregnancy, to depression and emotional numbing.
I'm entitled to my opinion. And slut is not the lowest name in my book.
It's also interesting to me how you *completely* ignored the statistics about how women are more likely to commit emotional and physical abuse, but flipped out when I criticized fictional characters.
FYI, if you walk out on a man in the hopes of provoking him into being with you, you're being abusive.
No what you said about the statistics is true but it just looks bad for the man because he is physically stronger than us and could hurt us badly is y. We are the weaker sex. howeverf, I have a problem with men always refering to women as sluts and whores when yall don't say the same for yallselves. It doesn't matter who you are calling sluts. you considered being so comfortable and quick to calling women sluts for sleeping around or not even knowing anything about them but because maybe how they dress
Seems to guys slutty behavior but you don't consider guys bouncing around to different girls or just flirting or dating different girls low but its ok for men? You would call a man a slut or think anything of it because its a man. And calling women sluts is the lowest name you could ever call a woman. You say it to hurt us and you don't even have to know her sexual life but just judge her on her looks or who or how many she dates. you don't even have to know if she sleeps with every guy she dates but
You'd want to judge her and think that cause that's how the world thinks. sad
Geez, you guys. Girls don't like sex. If they did then there would be waaay more sex going on. Girls have two strong knees to kick a guy in the balls for even looking at her crotch and guys know that girls are programmed for chastity and it's thier job to say no, nada, not happenin, good luck, good try, and get outa here! Guys are deeply saddened by knowing they're not going to get what thier body needs. Girls simply don't have these urges as evidenced by the fact they DO NOT ACT on them...
A few thoughts:
-Girls can expect too much from guys. We can chase, but they never give us a reward (I don't mean sex), so we give up on her.
-Girls sometimes aren't worth chasing. I don't want to compete with half-a-dozen other guys for her attention, or chase a girl who'll dump me when I "catch" her and she gets bored.
-If girls have sex too early, lots of guys have no reason to chase her.
-Many women have an attitude that they don't owe the man anything, but he owes her the world. The Princess mentality. And I sure don't want to chase a girl who'll make my life a living hell.
Reward like what then? why do we have to give you something? You should just want to chase us if you like us but some guys got this mentality that I can get another girl like you so I'm not gonna chase you, like there is plenty of fish in the sea, and so on. like us girls period aren't chased anymore cause guys have changed a lot. We like to feel that important and that loved to be chased and we chase guys too a lot more nowadays buut we really miss being chased like its been for years.
Rewards like affection, consideration, caring about our feelings.
If guys have changed, it's because we've changed in response to women's changing behavior over the last 20-40 years.
You're proving my point: you expect guys to chase you just because. In the old days (so to speak), guys acted like gentlemen *because* women acted like ladies. Now, women don't feel obligated to act like ladies, yet they still expect us to act like gentlemen.
Double standard.
Yeah. I agree with you there but the reason why a lot of us don't act much like ladies anymore is because a lot of men have stopped acting like gentlemen for years. Controlling, domestic abuse is committed by most men, girls being abused by some men. All lowers the self esteem of a woman and makes her feel like degrading herself for attention a way to feel wanted. All that has gone mostly down the bloodstream of woman not feeling good about themselves and other woman see that and pick those bad habits
If *you* act like a lady, you will filter out those who don't act like gentlemen. Problem solved. If all women acted like ladies, all men would act like gentlemen. We'd have no choice.
So most women have lost that respect for themselves because of past issues with men and men like to exploit women in such degrading ways to make money and we agree to it. So its our fault too. Most men nowadays seem more interested in sex then getting to know us and we are used to feeling like a piece of meat to most men so a lot of that is a cause of why we do the things we do sometimes. A way of feeling wanted but not the way we like. We still want love and to be heard but overtime that's changed
It's a common misconception that men are more abusive. As of 1999, there were 53 studies proving that women beat men *at least* as much as men beat women in marriages and dating.
In fact, women are often *more* likely to attack first. Look in the appendix of this book for more details:
https://www.amazon.com/Women-Cant-Hear-What-Dont/dp/1585420611/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1242073760&sr=1-1
True. It goes both ways here. No ones pointing the finger but understand until men start to see us for more than our bodies and not only want to talk to us when we are showing off some skin then we can start to feel like we don't need to do that for attention. And not all men are like this and not all women are like this. If we act like a lady, we will geta good man and vice versa for men.
Well said.
I've heard that and your right. You jus hear more about men abusing women cause they are stronger than us. It looks more bad on there part. besides all that, I know a lot of women present themselves easy nowadays but guys are just as bad. We both need to change.
"us girls period aren't chased anymore cause guys have changed a lot."
it's never entered her mind that _women_ have also changed.
If you have the time to read all of this girls responses to some men who answered her question you will find out that she has a boyfriend. Why would a girl who already has a boyfriend be interested in guys to chase her as she includes herself as, "We woman"? LOL I think she's just answered her own question and proved what type of a person she really is! Then the end part of her question she recedes back to her comfort with other woman as a whole, "I blame us" instead of herself as an individual. She try's to divert your attention onto all woman in general which means she is a very poor representative of her kind. When it comes to finding a relationship men aren't playing a game. I am a man and I am very very strong so my mind is not your toy to be messed with. Men who do not chase woman have control over themselves, they are not lazy. I am not lazy. I work my fingers to the bone and have broken bones so you do not have to go through what I go through. Get it? That is why you are pretty. Eventually someone is going to lose control. The instant you take it to far and the one who defends you ends up with broken bones all men will continue to fight endlessly and those would ultimately end up as your broken bones. A shift in financial power only gives woman a false sense of strength and ability to support themselves. Woman want men to chase them because they are over estimating themselves. Just how woman hate cocky men, that is exactly how cocky you appear to us.
Wow, popular topic. Partly this is the result of changing cultural attitudes toward dating (see Spelunker's reference below and other research studies), but I don't think that's the whole story.
For me and many other guys, it's simple. "The chase" consists mostly of waiting for phone calls, competing with other guys, and telling you how awesome we are. Those of us who are neither narcissists nor secretly gay think this is boring. If I wanted these things, I'd work at a call center, join a sports league, and start a blog, respectively.
If I ask a girl on a date, it's because I want to go to parties with her, eat dinner together, argue about movies, trade stories about growing up, make out on her couch, and have sex with her. To me, these things are more fun than acting out some kind of junior high school chase sequence.
You're right, women are the reason. Women are the biggest of hypocrites. "What's wrong with him..?" Well frankly, you the woman are what's wrong, you the woman with double standards are the cause for all your problems. Men for the longest time have to learn and adapt to the stupid game.
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.
Finances play a huge role in courtship and always will so long as a man is expected to pay, because we only earn so much. And women what do they do, leech on free dates, dinners, gifts. As a man managing finances, it's kinda stupid to want to chase a woman, paying for dinners all the time. Most men can just get a hot escort for sex, the price of that is equal to maybe two nice dinners. Personally I don't think woman can hold "sex" as bait anymore unless they are really hot. There are plenty of hot girls that will offer sex straight up, they are called escorts.
Men want a woman who knows how to be effeminate. We like girls that know how to be cute, girlie and playful as well as strong and independent in their work life. I'll go far and say that men should want a woman that will offer to pay her half, and she can thank all the feminists before her that have shaped the way for that. You are a woman that doesn't want to pay her half on dinners, and you still want men to chase you around? Good luck.
Firstly Id like to thank you for putting the blame on women instead of just being a guy basher. Yes, I believe women today are just too easy. Making a guy wait for marriage for sex is not even an option anymore, now girls think they're hard to get if they wait until the 3rd date, with most not even lasting past the first.
A guy puts as much worth into something as to how difficult it was to get it. He puts a lot into his car because he put ALOT of money that he had work for, into it. If he gets into a girls pants after a $40 meal, then what does that say to him about her?
So I completely agree with you, guys are not investing time and energy into girls because they have become just too easy.
Its true but is it fair? Guys sleep around just as much as girls do but its ok? men are easy just like girls and its ok? I think men have made it one-sided here. Its always been this way too.
"Its always been this way too"
I thought that once upon a time, men courted women. Which is it? You can't have it both ways.
Yes men use to do that but even at that time and before, still expected women to act and behave ladylike, classy but as soon as we decide to explore our sexual side just like what they do without being questioned about it, we get questioned about it and looked down upon for it and called the lowest names in the book. But men back then just like now have always had there share of women but did it a little more discretly, they were more respecful to women then because we weren't as sexual promiscuous as
We are nowadays. So now men don't court us as much because they do not see value in women who are open sexually like they are.
Double standard issue
Firstly guys don't sleep around as much as girls do since its so much easier for girls to have sex than guys. Guys and girls are different, guys are the ones that pursue, if a girl gives it up easily then he'll take it but not appreciate it.
I agree because I myself don't value a girl who's sexually promiscuous.
So yea its a double standard, but I think its justifiably so.
Yes it is harder for guys to get laid than girls but what I was talking about is the fact that men who do sleep around can get away with it unlike women. There are a lot of guys like players, extremely good looking guys who have sex with plenty of girls all the time but because they are men, its ok. That's what I meant when I said guys sleep around just as much as girls. Read between that line, that guys can do that and most won't think anything of it. Its not justifiable at all, hon. sex is sex
Well firstly I think its a completely different act for guys and girls so you can't really say sex is sex. A guy puts his thing into something, a girl gets something put IN her. I really don't see it as the same at all.
Easy there with your finger pointing. I blame both. Why? Here's why, with so many people being so easy and all these friends with benefits relationship why should they chase? A solid relationship does not require any one person to do more legwork than the other in my opinion. It should be a give and take and take and give. If two people are solid with themselves they will be so in a relationship. The problem is that people in general (not just one sex) don't allow themselves to have that solidity prior to getting into a relationship. In turn, a whole slew of problems and head games come to head.
By the way, it's a little ironic that you post this.
Yes, but not because of what you think. There are many factors, but having "women throwing themselves" at us is most definitely NOT one of them! That just DOES NOT HAPPEN, unless you're a rock star or something, no, the reasons are these:
1-Young people today "myself included" have the attention span of a cabbage.
2-We are also lazy.
3-You girls wanted equal rights? well, you got'em, now pay the consequences.
4-Hot, scantily clad girls are EVERYWHERE, TV, Magazines, Videogames, Intrawebz, there is no "mistery anymore.
5-I would list more reasons, but 1 and 2 are starting to kick in...
Haha I like your answer. Especially the mystery part. Some girls these days just give it all up too easily, there is no need for a chase.
Laziness. That's the problem.
Laziness is maybe a problem for some but not all. You can't make such a statement for the whole gender. There are many reasons why.
Did I say the whole gender? No. Most is what I mean
Having been raised under a feminist environment, it has been drummed into me and others of my generation, that "no means no". As such, if you go for a girl, and she does not reciprocate, I take it as a no, and do not pursue the matter further. More, some colleges and work places now consider it "sexual harassment" to engage in any unwanted behavior that can be considered to have some sexual nature -- as courting can be. Doing otherwise (not taking no as an answer and seeing it as just a "challenge") is seen as being a stalker and a potential rapist these days, so us men leave it for the women to do the chasing now. Be careful for what you ask for, you may get it.
That is true. If you want the guy and are just playing a little hard to get is one thing but when you keep telling a guy no and he keeps coming after you is just creepy...
Equal rights is the problem. lol what you are asking for is chivary. To have a guy chase you, and have to fight for you, and buy you things, and genuinely work to get you. Not dissin on womens rights... but I honestly feel like that is the problem. Women are taking an equal stance to men in more and more areas, including dating. For people who like the chivalry, it is sad, and you will get your expectations smashed. There are still plenty of guys I know who like to go back to that now. For the 21st century.. the way it used to be is now called playing hard to get. Its not dead, just corrupted and stomped upon.
Well equal rights is not exactly the problem here (uh, I would rather have rights to vote and work than have someone buy me a few flowers and chocolates and sit at home and be a housewife for the rest of my days... back in the old days :P). I think the problem is, somewhere along the line it all changed. If you are incredibly hot, no matter if you are a guy or girl, someone will chase you anyway, but in a way even THEN, not many people do this so much anymore, they are lazy. People want it easy.
I disagree about the lazy part, if there is one thing in life that motivates people, it is sex. Guys still would chase I think, and be chivalrous, if half of women didn't hate us for it
actually many girls are very confused and tend to play games. you'll find many guys play games as well. As it turns out...guys don't wanna invest time into a girl if he knows she's a headcase. He could be spending his time elsewhere to find a girl who knows what she wants. vice versa, too. There are so many fish in the sea...
I had a girl stand me up twice and it turns out she was confused...I mean I didn't wanna be mean, but I went on my way and she keeps chasing me. She had her shot, she's playing hard to get. I'd rather waste my energy on a girl I was truly attracted to that thought the same way about me.
Exactly and a lot of women have low self esteem. why? I don't know why. That's the problem and why a lot of women keep dating the same guys all the time. Good men are so hard to find.
I wouldn't say I was raised under a feminist environment, but near as I can tell, much of this stems from the fact that women have many more rights than they used to, including the right to choose exactly who they talk to, go out with, break up with, marry, or divorce. Of course that isn't a bad thing, but guys seem to assume this means that women have given a lot of thought to exactly what they want, and thus should not be afraid to go after it if they see it, which many people from both genders have difficulty doing. So, guys wind up sitting back and thinking that since none of these women are displaying any interest, they might as well not go for what may likely be a lost cause, saving himself some awkward moments.
Save one mistake when I was 16-17, guys have always chased after me.
Despite what guys may say, chasing after you, if you're a girl, is basically the only surefire way you know a guy is into you. A guy's not going to waste his time and energy chasing after a girl who he has no interest in. Granted, he may be chasing you for the wrong reasons (i.e. for sex).
Be careful though, you don't want to play mind games with a guy. Just keep your cool and he'll chase.
IN CONCLUSION: Guys WILL chase so long as you actually have something to offer. You have to be "different".