Women's work and men's work are slightly different around the world in all the countries and cultures. The roles are a bit different in the America, they are a bit different in Bangladesh where I live, and they are a bit different in China where my dad goes for frequent business trips and he not only told me how it is but even showed me when he took me to different offices and factories in China.
In America there aren't many women in STEM, women tend to avoid it and the society overall tends to discourage women from pursuing that field because of different stereotypes and also the fact that a woman in STEM would be less likely to get approached by men. Over here, despite the society being much more misogynistic, there are just as many women in STEM as there are men. In fact because of our modest culture we have very high demand for female doctors especially gynecologists. Here women can't even imagine working in any factory or gas station but there are plenty of women working in Chinese gas stations and factories! I've seen it myself.
In America many couples tend to split household chores and work equally, here women do all the household chores doesn't matter if she works or not, very recently men started cooking more meals but men still leave the childcare entirely to their wives. In China both parents go to work while the grandparents look after the child! (Of course it's a huge generalization, not all families are like that.)
But normally, here is what I personally observed. Usually, regardless of region and their culture, women's jobs:
1) Are less physically demanding, as in how much physical strength and labor you have to put in.
2) Require less travelling and moving about especially in odd hours and long distances, I'm not necessarily talking about commuting. Think of a cashier vs a chauffeur.
And again, it depends on your culture what's more attractive and what's not. Here even though being a career woman isn't seen as being as womanly as being a housewife of course, a lot of people especially in the upper class want that for the sake of 'status'. Somewhere else it might be more prestigious to be a housewife instead and that would be more desired. I think hierarchy matters more than how 'womanly' she is when it comes to how desirable or attractive she is to the society.
When children are very young they are told they can not do certain things. For example my daughter was told girls don't do math or play with Legos by her after school care. Good thing she has a strong will and I told her if she loves math to do it because it is really important... she is top of her highschool class now! My ex sat on the couch for decades while I renovated our home,. There is no such thing as women's or men's jobs. It's all in our minds and how society sets us up. If you are not strong you find innovative ways to be productive, I shingled my roof, I did it mostly by myself, to get the shingles up I used a powered lift on my ladder based on what others did on YouTube. While working up there my neighbor kept saying she can't believe that a women is on the roof... If you can overcome the pressures others put on you , you can do it!
I live in the sticks. A couple nearby farm girlfriends come by and sometimes bring a spare horse with them. They can work hard feeding their animals, doing some farming, chopping wood sometimes. One shoots very well. They can sling a 100lb bag of feed. They seem to work until they are tired (sometimes push it) whereas I work until the job is done which is the real difference. I have yet to meet one that can swap out a transmission (rebuild it) or split a tractor and put it all back to working order. I would welcome that. I think that women can do manual labor in a group well when there is support but independently taking on a huge job alone, and having to complete it on her own I have yet to witness. I am not saying there isn’t some hard ass brute with a vagina out there that can do it; I just haven’t seen it. But to answer your question, one of these women like the homemaker job more and she likes to play house sometimes and is very good at it. I think that when we fit the pieces of the complementary puzzle together; yes there are jobs that come natural to each.
Hell my works side by side with me in farm work. There is nothing she can't do.
She can't paint her finger nails as good as I can
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In a word yes, there is women's work and men's work. But really those jobs can be done by either gender. They just tend to be more comfortable and easier for them.
Easy example? Waitressing vs machining factory.
Assume both come from middle class families. Both parents work. Maybe a sport.
Factory work is usually physical. Standing for 8-12 hours a day, lifting up to 80lbs usually not air conditioned. Don't have to talk to people.
Waitressing, also involves standing for 8-12 hours a day but is less physical and more mental. Lots of writing, possible memorization, and having to deal with people all day.
Most of the females I've met are much better at wearing a delightful mask all day than Most guys I've met. However even if they are involved with sports, heavy lifting is probably going to kick their butt.
But it depends on your body type and the work you are used to. It depends on money. Education. Various abilities. The more educated you go the less there is a line between male and female biased positions.
No.
There is work.
If you are unsuited to said work, do not do said work.
I can outlift most men at most gyms. I can outspar most men.
But my mind is sharper than my body.
So I work in consulting. (Also, feminine charms make it very easy to make suckers out of men trapped with sexist ways - and then my good worth ethic and communication skill makes it easy to help them improve for next time).
But I'd take a labour job sooner than go back to a "female dominated" field. Eugh. I had enough of that.
Well there's landscaper females out here, but most physical laboring jobs most women can't really handle, like I don't wanna be an asshole, but even some guys tap out at the level of physical labor of some of these jobs.
It's basically man's way of selling his body, it's why a lot of us end up practically crippled in old age. There's no point in women selling her body that way, when there's much easier methods.
I also feel like we're wired to work and process stuff a certain way, and that's better for different tasks. Such as guys are usually more mechanically inclined, trust me a lot aren't though.
I would say this works the same way race works - scientists spent decades trying to find genes that could distinguish one race from another and they concluded there is no single gene that makes one person white or black or brown or yellow - racial differences are made by combination traits. Also these combinations are so complex no scientist has been able to map them out.
That is how I would understand gender. There is no single job that is for woman or men but some jobs are more popular in one gender rather than another and these factors are too complicated and inter dependent to specifically identify.
Yes of course there is, there are jobs where men undeniably are more capable because it caters to their natural talents. And there are jobs where women are undeniably more capable because it caters to their natural talents. Men can adapt to do the womens job, but focussing on so many things at once such as a group of children is difficult since we are wired to focus on one task at hand and we tend to excel in logic rather than social skills. Of course individual cases are much more flexible but if you look at the best in their field you will either see men or women depending on which gender traits fit that particular task. If you look around you you won't see many women doing heavy construction work, and you won't see many men leading large kindergarten classes or working at a daycare facility.
I’m aware of only two jobs that have been exclusively segregated by sex throughout antiquity and that’s the hunting of large marine mammals (ie whales) and metallurgy. Besides that I think there’s been overlap on everything across the world. That said in each culture there tends to be highly segregated work, ie men would hunt and women pick berries or vice versa, but when all societies are taken into account most everything’s been tried.
That said due to interest in modern western societies we still see some division of labor. There’s a reason most bricklayers are men and most nurses are women, and it’s not because there are roving bands of patriarchs ensuring that people don’t step out of line 😂
Normal guys aren’t turned on because a woman acts like a man. There is zero benefit to her as far as attracting masculine men.
Also if she has a man’s body proportions that’s unattractive. Women who get too strong lose their body fat & start looking mannish. Their boobs get flat. So at some point there’s such a thing as too much.
It’s also unlikely a woman could even go toe to toe with guys in every physical activity. Men have denser muscle, more muscle & more easily form muscle. It’s way harder for her to get strong than it is for him.
And most women - 75% or more probably- don’t want to work as hard as men do. They want fun/easy jobs usually. Men don’t look at it that way.
Well, technically, yes. But some people (ignorant fools) overexaggerate it. It's 2019, men and women do have the capability of doing anything they want to do.
For example, women in the millitary. Can they do the work? Yes. Can they do every single thing that men can do in the millitary? I know you'll be shocked by this, but yes. Some things people do in the military are use weapons, drive vehicles, and repair weapons. Other people in the military learn how to fly aircraft, pilot ships, or repair engines. This doesn't even have to do with physical strength. Women can be in the millitary, and they do it pretty well.
Now, an example of a "man's work" would be something like being a priest. The Catholic church does not allow women to join the priesthood. It doesn't align with my beliefs, but to each their own. CAN women be priests? Yes. ARE they? No.
Yes, yes there is.
My job for instance we only have one woman working for us and she's the secretary, everyone else is a man.
It's not women's faults or anything you just limited by your biology and men and women were designed for different tasks and to do different kinds of work and there's nothing wrong with that. We both have our roles in the world and things that are gender does better and more efficiently.
Now that's not to say there aren't exception to the rule but they're pretty rare.
Nah. It might be rare to see the opposite gender in particular fields, but there's no particular field that either couldn't do. I love seeing women in tougher fields, like construction, oilfields, mechanics, etc and men in things like nursing, teaching, etc its great! And those who are passionate can make it even better!
I have seen quite a number of women in 'men's jobs. Each time they impressed me a lot.
The stereotype that those girls are not 'feminine' is a myth; sure: some ARE 'unsightly'... but the same can be said of their male colleagues.
Of course there ARE jobs that are predominantly manned (sorry) by a specific gender. But I see that rather as a 'habit' or 'tradition' than being purposely selective.
I have a very physical job and it doesn't make me any more masculine, I'm very feminine and just a normal woman. Your job doesn't and shouldn't ever define your identity or your gender or anything. Sure there are lots of things consider to be for men or for women but I honestly hope that one day it would all be equally for both
It depends on if you are talking about average or including those at the extreme ends. There is considerable more variation within each of the sexes than the average differences between the sexes.
Although it is difficult, the average man can carry a bundle of roofing shingles. The average women cannot; at 50 to 80 lbs they weigh too much. However, 10% (more or less) of young women can and a smaller percentage can do it better than the average man.
In sports occasionally a young women can do what less than 1 man in million can. The quad in figure skating is an example. In an amazing performance 15-year-old, Anna Shcherbakova, completed two quad Lutzes in international competition.
Of course there is. There are very good reason why 86% of Human Resources professionals and 90% of nurses are women. And there are also very good reasons why 87% of all engineers and 91% of construction workers are men.
That doesn't mean every woman has to do "woman's work" and every man has to do "man's work", but clearly there are jobs that men are much better at and better suited for, and jobs that women are much better at and better suited for.
Women are being pushed very hard to go into STEM jobs, and their numbers in those fields have risen in recent years, but there will never nearly s many women as men in STEM because a) they don't like it as much as men, and b) they are simply not as good at those types of jobs. Some women certainly are good at them, but generally speaking men are better.
The stereotype exists for a reason. Are there exceptions to the stereotype? Yes. The fact is a female soldier has to have a separate PT requirements then a male soldier. Female soldiers can't carry as much equipment in combat. They have a harder time carrying their wounded male counterparts to safety becouse they can't lift as much. Does this mean all males are stronger then all females? No. There are she hulks out there and scrawny guys. But dont stick your head in the sand. I love Rhonda Rousey but she wouldn't stand a chance against the heavyweight male counterparts. Statistics matter. Density matters.
We could debate "shoulds" all day long, but in the end all that matters is what people actually act out. Almost zero women go into hard laboring jobs, and yet feminists demand 50/50 gender balance in high power positions like C-suite boardrooms. Absurd. Try forcing women to occupy half of all hard labor roles-- they would revoke feminism itself before accepting such a premise.
I think women shy away from jobs like this so we will probably never know. But if they did take on a job like this in a tight pair of jeans then YES that would be super attractive!
I work a blue collar factory job. I've had several female coworkers state that they shouldn't have to do certain aspects of the job because "It's mens work". I've even had one say she should be paid more than the men for doing a mans job. Is a woman unattractive who does my line of work, no. Can her attitude be unattractive, yes.
By nature, men and women have their own so-called "Gender Roles" which includes work. There are jobs that are simply better to be done by men and others by women. Can women do men's jobs? They can try, but chances are they will switch to something more female-friendly.
Work is work. There's no work for man or work for men.
Take chefs for example.
Men and women by biological design have evolved to perform certain tasks/jobs exceptionally and that's the only fine line that exists. Men are more muscular and so are without much question seen to be doing the heavy duty works and vice versa for women.
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