The Little Mermaid isn't White. Just Like Jesus.

[purplepoppy]

Ok there's been a lot of moaning on GAG about the black Ariel so it's time for a poppy slapdown. We all know jesus wasn't white but artists have turned him into a white guy, just like they've done with Ariel.

ARIEL IS GREEK

Ariel's father is King Triton, who is Poseidon's son, according to Greek history. Thus, Poseidon is Ariel's grandpa.

SKIN COLOUR

In the original story she is described as "Her skin was as soft and tender as a rose petal, and her eyes were as blue as the deep sea, but like all the others she had no feet. Her body ended in a fish tail."

Nowhere in this description is there a mention of skin colour. Given people of that time were a little bit racist I would have expected him to mention if she was black. The blue eyes does suggest northern European but they are also found in the med.

I'll let you jump to your own conclusions on this pic

Early images of her by Vilhelm Pedersen show her with a Mediterranean appearance.

In fact most early illustrations show her as dark haired.

Very Mediterranean

Doesn't look north European to me

Again more Mediterranean looking or perhaps Japanese

Some books like this one from the 60s show her as blonde

Perhaps she's died her hair

So there you are. She's been reinvented and whitened up over the years. Just like Jesus.

[MCheetah]

I agree with you on everything except the story of The Little Mermaid was a Danish fairy tale/folklore story, and the father being King Triton, was kinda added in later on. So not Greek, but Danish (not that either culture naturally had redheads). But yeah, she definitely wasn't black, and she definitely wasn't a man-hating feminist "who don't need no man, mmm-hmmm gurrrrrrl!"

The reason people are pissed with this movie is, besides the blatant sh*tting all over the past in order to push more anti-white racism and propaganda towards CHILDREN, the movie is also pointless, should have never been made (along with all the other horrible remakes), and looks like low budget trash, from top to bottom.

Even if she was white, this movie would've been unpopular due to it being yet another soulless cash grab made by Disney. But add in the anti-white racism, unironic "cultural appropriation" of Dutch culture (not that I even care about such a thing, but the hypocrisy is astounding), and the stupid f*cking a-holes like "Mark" in the comments on this page, saying the most punchable sh*t imaginable, and it pisses ME off through the internet, even though I'm the type of "person of color" this hyper soyboy bitch thinks he's using his whiteness to defend.

In short, this trailer and movie, was only made to piss people off and Disney knew what they were doing with it: stroking more hate and flame wars, hoping they're profit off it, when all they're doing is burning more bridges.

But yeah, you're also right that Jesus wasn't white either (assuming he was even real). He would've been Arab.

[Filthy_Immigrant]

about the Jesus part I agree with you on him not being white. that white Jesus that christians and catholics been worshipping for a while is Cesare Borgia



however I disagree with him being arab as well, I believe he was black for the fact that Israel was broken down into 12 tribes at the time he was born and those 12 tribes were scattered all over the world during the slavery era and here they are...

[MCheetah]

Thank you for the Most Helpful Opinion.

[HippieVeganJewslim]

@Filthy_Immigrant The children of Israel weren’t American or Indian. Neither they or their forefathers have ever been to America or doubtfully India. They were Palestinians/Israelis and possibly Africans or Arabs.

[Filthy_Immigrant]

@HippieVeganJewslim they're obviously not talking about "Indians" from India, they are talking about Native Americans that been mistakenly called "Indians" by white sailors such as Christopher Columbus.

and it sounds like you are misinterpreting the whole thing. my point is that black folks are the real jews. not the palestinians or the white folks who are in Israel at the moment. those two have been playing tug a war for centuries over a land that doesn't belong to them

[HippieVeganJewslim]

@Filthy_Immigrant The Jews still have a bit of the blood of Israel. It’s just that many of their blood got mixed with others. Full Jews weren’t exactly Black nor were they exactly White. The picture of Jesus (peace and blessings upon Him) that @mcheetah posted is quite similar, although I reckon the Jewish skin might be a bit darker. By Palestine, I mean the land, the Promised Land that G-d gave to us Moses’ people. Nothing to do with the State of Palestine 🇵🇸. And honestly, the way you wrote ‘christians and catholics’ makes it sound like Catholicism ain’t a part of Christianity!

[Filthy_Immigrant]

@HippieVeganJewslim well I'm not that big on religion. all I know is that I believe we Black, Hispanics and Native Americans are the real jews because older bibles say that Jesus had hair like a "sheep" and that his skin was so dark that the sunlight reflected off him whenever he walked out during daylight.

I also believe that those "hebrews" that Mosses freed in Egypt were actually black folks trying to escape slavery

[AviatorTom]

@purplepoppy Your talent is showing once again, great description.

I've been to Copenhagen to the Little Mermaid statue, and she's not white, not black, she's a bluish green.

The REAL Little Mermaid in Copenhagen

[Texaskid1]

Finally, a man who speaks the truth.

[tony_baloney]

Oooooo. Copper?

[Pot8o]

Lolol nice

[lightbulb27]

as you noted, she definitely wasn't black... so why make her black? The culture she'd be from was European, probably more light colored. this is agenda being pushed by wokism of the day. Only this day and age would we be so lost in race rather than examining what the story is about and the joy of the story.

I have no issue with a black, brown, blue, orange mermaid. heck, maybe she'd be related to an Orca and have a big fin on her back? But invent something new.

What next... superman is black? I know what I'll do... I'll make a movie about Major Taylor, but he will be... Chinese!! The story of the early 1900's greatest bike racer who won globally, he was really a black African American, but portrayed by Jackie Chan!

The real major taylor... God rest his soul!

New revised !.. to be released in theaters near you soon...

Nihow!

Can we stop the Bullsh_?

[HollyK21]

There’s a lot of other comments here, but I’m choosing to comment on yours since you took the time to write (and include pictures) such a hateful and ignorant take on this topic. Major Kelly is an actual person, so do you know what a movie about him would be? A documentary! Regardless of The Little Mermaids author, no where is it stated specifically that she has to be a white woman, and if you’ve even red the original story there is nothing joyful about Ariel losing the love of her life, dying and turning into sea foam. Ariel is a fictitious fish woman, who’s dad is the king of the ocean carrying a fork, and Ursula is an octopus with purple skin. My point is that it doesn’t matter what race Disney chose to cast Ariel as. What does matter though is representation and inclusivity for all races. You grew up with a white superhero, and many of your favorite movies and actors mainly being cast as a white person, so representation doesn’t register for you. But there’s no way you can sit there and say you’re not racist when you wrote out this whole Take on how Ariel just cannot possibly be anything other than white. A lot of little black girls are finally being able to see themselves in their favorite princess, and you shitting on that is just hurtful. I don't know what you’re so pressed about, but you should really practice having some tact before acting so entitled.

[Anonymous]

I'm not an expert on this but from the poking around I have been doing it seems that there is no 'Ariel' in Greek mythology.

The Little Mermaid by Hans Christian Anderson is from what i can see a bad story that really doesn't stand up to the scrutiny that it's fame forces it to bear and is nothing to do with Greek mythology but rather the Christian faith.

What this means is that 'Ariel, the Little Mermaid' is, as it copyright holders will also tell you, is an original work, albeit one that is inspired by other stories, as is true for many stories and as such Ariel is and always has been, half white, THE OTHER HALF BEING A FISH.

Though its not even accurate to say that she is 'half fish' at least with regard to the Hans Christian Anderson story because it is made perfectly clear that she is not half human, she is 100% mermaid.

Now, I have nothing against the idea that there are mermaids with dark skin etc but saying Ariel now suddenly has black skin is bullshit, I'm not going to accept that anymore than I am going to accept Superman being black.

These are established characters so when you change their skin colour, there is only one message and it is perfectly clear: it is not ok to be white.

You want to make new characters with dark skin, female, non binary, gay, autistic, whatever, that is totally fine, but don't tell me that the Ghostbusters are all women now because that is bullshit.

[God_of_Thunder]

I keep hearing about this Little Mermaid crap, and literally every time that I do, all I can think of is, "Why do so many people even care?"

Seriously, WTF? They act like someone just farted on their mother, for Christ's sake. It's a FICTIONAL character, from a FICTIONAL story! She could be White, Black, Asian, or Klingon, and it wouldn't change anything.

Now, if Nelson Mandela was played by a white guy, or Sun Tsu was portrayed as a black man; I could understand the anger, but it's a freaking story book character. She's not a real person, and she never was.

Argh!

/rant over

[MCheetah]

People are bothered by the anti-white racism message Disney is sending out, as well as the hypocrisy of changing her race literally for no reason, then contradicting themselves by saying "mermaids aren't real, so race doesn't matter" which then goes back to the "then why did you blatantly change her race to begin with?" question. They also lose their sh*t when people use Photoshop to make Ariel look white again with red hair. If this was pre-2015, people would still be annoyed by it, but wouldn't think politics or race had anything to do with it and just chalk it up to horrible casting. But people "care" because it's blatant propaganda and race-baiting aimed at children, and it's f*cking DISGUSTING how insidious it is.

[DubiousIntentions]

Hey, those mermaids taste better with tartar sauce.

[HighValue]

1. Greeks are White Europeans and Greece was one of the founding members of the UN.

2. The Little Mermaid was written in the 1800s by Hans Christian Anderson that was Danish. (Also White European)

3. Jesus was White too. He was also Jewish.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Little_Mermaid

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Christian_Andersen

[Msputiton]

Lmao🤣

They made this for kids not salty ass grown ups.

It be like these grown ass men losing their mind over a my little pony movie.

All you grown ass men crying about a kids movie can go sit in the corner until you calm down.

And the bs of they change characters to pander to us.

Um why you think almost all characters over the years were mostly white?

Pandering duhh.

And it's funny we get called crybabies for saying we tired of being left out of movies completely.

And y'all get a character here, and there changed and y'all throw the biggest fits i ever seen like a 2 yr old who didn't get a baba.

I think we see who the real babies are. It's racists.

[Mark987]

Who cares what her colour is? she's a Mermaid... she is not real but you know what is? Racism.. the movie got so many negative comments because she wasn't white. It's a movie the fact. Mermaids aren’t real y’all. But racism is … and it seems to be alive and well.
Why are so many white people disliking this trailer (it’s a rhetorical question). The movie hasn’t even come out yet and the trailer is as vague as possible. The only reason it has received 1.5 million dislikes is because Ariel is brown.
If you want to have any issue with The Little Mermaid let it be that it promotes girls to give up themselves for a man and to be seen and not heard.
Personally I will give this a chance since Disney is evolving and has made great strides with female empowerment and inclusivity of cultures and race.
Those who are making comments about the color of a mermaids skin should be ashamed of themselves.

[MCheetah]

As a black person, please SHUT THE FUCK UP.

[Mark987]

@MCheetah woah woah... why?

[MCheetah]

I'm so sick of fucking assholes like you pushing your hatred and horseshit onto the masses. I bet every dollar I have you're an upper middle class white male who wasn't bullied enough in school. This fucking movie has nothing to do with "MUH RACISM." And everything to do with pushing hatred onto the masses, pissing people off, and using woke culture to hide behind a shitty product no one wanted.

There seriously used to a day and age where saying shit like you said in real life would get you punched in the face hard enough to bleed. And I'd be the one doing it, even though your white Canadian ass thinks you're shielding "us poor black people" from "muh racism."


The problem is, assholes like you have overused that word so fucking much now, it's lost all meaning. When will people like you wake the fuck up? You're fucking 41 years old and have the mentality of a toddler. I am so sick of soy bitches like you thinking you're shielding the world from "muh racism and sexism." You may not even be white, but I'm going to assume that since you clearly have no sense of reality about anything.

[MCheetah]

THIS shit is what I, as a black person, find to be offensive. That if we don't take the bait, and listen to whiny bitches like you, who clearly lack masculinity in any sense, lecturing people and talking down to them about "racism, sexism, homophobia, etc" from your upper middle class ivory towers, then we must not truly "be black," or "oppressed" or anything.

No. Shut the fuck up. We don't need limp dicks like you "defending us" or shouting "RACISM!" every time another shitty cash grab, fan-bait product comes out from a corporation. And I already know the new bitch admin, who is just as woke as you are, is going to remove this comment. But that's not going to stop me from saying what needs to be said.

Get your fucking head out of your ass, stop patronizing and infantilizing people you look down on and pity on because you more-than-likely have "white guilt," and dismissing everything to being "bigots and instaphobes." You fucking 41 year old manchild.

I don't even normally get mad like this, but the shit you're saying legitimately would've gotten you an ass-kicking ten years ago. The only reason you can disrespect entire groups of people like this is because you're hiding behind the comfort of a computer screen or phone, and wouldn't have the balls to insult people so viciously to their face... All to defend a shitty fucking soulless corporate remake designed to brainwash little children.

People like you with your knee-jerk nasty name-calling and reactions are the reason society is so divided and broken right now. And at this point, I'm tried of being civil or respectful to people like you, who are neither civil, nor respectful. .. On top of just saying utter horeseshit.

[Mark987]

@MCheetah I am actually brown... and not even with the white... not even close... I am sorry if I upset you that was not my attention.

[Snakeyes7]

No one gives a shit what Jesus's race is. His race was never important.

People who disagree with Ariel being black doesn't like tokenism, making changes to a character due to pressures outside of the story. Whether Disney intends it or not, they are making the implication that a black actor/actress will not be successful unless they ride along the coattails of a pre-established white character. Everyone knows this isn't true so why is this change necessary?

It's one thing if Bailey was the only actress they could find who was willing to do the role but I highly doubt that is the case.

[DubiousIntentions]

Oh please!

[Snakeyes7]

@DubiousIntentions If you think I'm wrong then tell me what you disagree on.

[DubiousIntentions]

After I read it again I agree.

[jshm2]

To be fair. Ariel was a fictional character invented by Disney, as they didn't want to pay royalties for using the original works.

Hence she's actually "offbrand" to begin with!

Like a lot of American stories, they are jus rips of real stores from older cultures.

[Havthrills]

So true. There was also one painting that was Arabian. The Little Mermaid has been shown in many different ways. I also wondered when she went blond. Lol. Then again, I wondered how she got red hair in the cartoon. She didn't have clothes either until she got legs.

[motownplayer2000]

Yeah. Kinda stupid that grown ass people are fighting over a fictional character. Like they have nothing better to do with there lives. Watch the movie or done watch the movie. It’s that freaking simple. But stop being simpletons and acting like this is actually important because it’s not. Ugh, the human race is fucked if this is what we fighting over

[HippieVeganJewslim]

I’ve read The Little Mermaid translated into Russian, and the name Ariel wasn’t in there. Ariel is a Hebrew name, meaning lion of G-d. Since Greece is a European country, don’t Greeks classify as White? If Jesus (peace and blessings upon Him) ain’t White, how come the dang US Census classifies North Africa and the Middle East natives as White? We all know He is from Palestine.

I still deny Jesus as White, though, and the name of the Little Mermaid as Ariel.

[Staximus]

Who cares so much about a fictional mermaid and fictional son of a fictional god? God and Jesus are a fairy tale just like the little mermaid. If there was a Jesus, he sure as hell wasn't white. He would have looked just like any other dude descended from the Levant region. Middle Eastern, dark skin, dark hair. Not like some blond white European.

[Staximus]

Anybody who thinks Jesus was white or black is an idiot.

[DubiousIntentions]

Exactly! Jesus was a Jew, and not quite white.. She should have been a greenish hue, just like the rest of the fish are.

[joeldalton]

I've seen a lot of fish without a greenish hue.

[DubiousIntentions]

And people can shit green cucumbers too as grampa used to say.

[joeldalton]

@dubiousintentions your grandpa got wild on Saturday nights.

[DubiousIntentions]

@joeldalton Could be.

[tony_baloney]

Looks like poison ivy with a tail lol

[Pot8o]

The author of The Little Mermaid, Hans Christian Andersen, was quite effeminate and possibly gay. Wonder what he would have thought about this whole kerfuffle.

[tafarrier]

I guess the Mermaid is lucky she's not in 50s and 60s South. so many here in the South think that was all settled in the civil war. wrongo

When Lincoln died and Jackson took over rebuilding the south,, by doing Nothing.. Blacks didn't get the vote till mid 60s. Black ladies later.. so its not finished with the Bigots still talking shit.

[Juxtapose]

Mermaids would actually be translucent creatures that would be horrifying look at since they would be classified as deep sea creatures. You would be able to see her full skeletal structure.

[Juxtapose]

So putting more melanin in the skin of a deep sea creature is the opposite of making sense.

[Rosexøxø]

I think you made an excellent point. The race applied to human historical figures, and maybe some mythical gods and goddesses, but certainly not any aquatic myth. The skin would have to be scaly or adapted to water. Green. Algae-looking, or translucent, as you said. Definitely a few translucent marines out there as is. Interesting points mentioned in the post, but your claim holds a lot of weight in this, as well.

[Juxtapose]

@Rosexøxø yeah, either way I'm sick of this woke shit that doesn't even make sense.

[Rosexøxø]

lol a bunch of metaphorical teens "woke up" finally, but are still too indecisive to do anything worthwhile. How many decades will that be? I certainly cannot afford to be one of them.

[bean2k21]

This is total rubbish. Fact is, Jesus was THE SON OF GOD. Everyone who has seen God knows that he is a bright, WHITE light.

[HippieVeganJewslim]

A large portion of the world reckons that G-d has no children and no parents and no one is like Him. That ain’t a fact, but merely a belief.

[bean2k21]

@HippieVeganJewslim Oh so what are you saying? Jesus was a black bastard? Yeah, we'll see how far that gets you when you're on your death bed.

[HippieVeganJewslim]

Jesus (peace and blessings upon Him) wasn’t Black nor a bastard. I plan not to have a bed when I die.

[ohsheeT]

And this is why I like you so much gag members need more poppy slap Downs I can't wait for December it's just right around the corner

[Lliam]

Greeks have Mediterranean skin but aren't African or black.

In the end, I couldn't care less about Disney or the Little Mermaid.

[FilmGuy93]

That’s not quite accurate, because a Mediterranean person is still pretty damn pale.