What’s your opinion on Steven Spielberg saying a female might get the role of Indiana Jones one day?

[ADFSDF1996]

Steven Spielberg is reported to have said that a female may get the role of Indiana Jones in the future. He said it’s only a possibility and it’s not a guarantee that will happen. He also said that he knows that change will upset many fans, which hopefully means it’s unlikely. Harrison Ford is still set to be Indiana Jones one more time in Indiana Jones 5 though.

personally I think that change would ruin the franchise and would definitely cause those films to get lower ratings as can be seen with the 2016 ghostbusters. Politicizing iconic franchises is why Hollywood has such a negative reputation.
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It’s absolutely ridiculous

It’s bad

It’s alright

It’s good

[TastyBiscuits]

They could always just stop making sequels when the actors are not capable of delivering the same performance. Might actually see something new come from Hollywood.

It makes no sense to change Indiana Jones from a man to a woman on the basis that change is a good thing. New Ideas are better.

Look at the Alien franchise. No one thought "we had better change Ripley to a man because men are tired of seeing this woman play the lead role, how can they ever draw inspiration from a woman" - how dumb and detached from people do you have to be to think like that... The important thing is the characters and the story.

Indiana is an established character, he's gruff and a dick and rouge like. You can't just go ahead an change the gender and expect those things to read the same to people; be it because of sexism, coding, or just because it's a different actor. Its also just lazy and boring.

Look at Ghostbusters, the film was a bad film - entertaining to some, but the story was crappy and the characters where poorly developed. Not too much of what was rehashed from the original film made sense for those actors to play on screen. Its like they tried to just carbon copy the jokes and humour and story of the first films but replaced the leads with people who just don't think that \ wouldn't act like that. That film could have been awesome, if they had developed the story and the characters uniquely to the originals. Instead the guy directing it just kept up with the rhetoric that people are being haters and women are funny this film will show that (which basically implied women had never been worth being in lead roles or had ever been funny before and he was there to stand up to misogyny - but then again Mary Poppins exists so... Sorry fella). So why not focus on new characters new story, develop the world a bit more and give the audience a fresh take on the story?

To bring it back to Indiana Jones, look at the last film. Its just awful. The people behind this film clearly aren't capable of funding, producing writing and directing a film with an established male character, do you really want them butchering the next Indi film and destroying what ever potential a new female Jones character could be?

I say if there must be a new film remove it from being a sequel to Indiana. Start it after 1980 and have the character related in some way to Indiana Jones. Basically make it a better Tomb Raider film.

[Mexicoman101]

I'm against it. People need to stop replacing characters by switching demographics, it's stupid, it's also the least creative form of fiction. Why not a Dakota Jones who is Indies' daughter? There are a lot more women named Dakota who could identify with that than there are ladies going by the name of Indiana.

Yeah I'm pretty disappointed with what they did to the Ghostbusters, it's not as good of a franchise anymore which was shitty for peoples' childhoods. It's too comprable to the first movie, it could have been a unique experience but it looks more like a revisionist history take with women in mind.

[TisforTori]

I don’t feel good about it. Instead of female actors, writers and directors proving their creativity, worth and talent. They are just using men’s stories and swapping for females. That’s nothing to be proud of. They should stand on their own as the men have.

[TheCunningLinguist]

My thoughts exactly! Instead of rebooting old male characters as female, women don't need to step in the men's shoes to play badass characters they can stand on their own.

[theflash675]

Exactly tomb raider was a good example that its possible for women play these roles with good feedback.

[witherwing]

Why would they change a male character to a female? It makes no sense at all. Isn't Lara Croft already a similar female character?

[CaliforniaGirl91]

Exactly!

[Whatthefluff]

Interesting. I think it would be a good movie

[Markasaurous]

Why? Just because a woman is the lead doesn't change the plot any.

[Whatthefluff]

It adds a different dynamic, but most importantly STEVEN SPIELBERG would be the director

[Teddy51]

Like female ghost busters?

[Whatthefluff]

Yeah, that was disappointing, but that's an exception. Truth is, we don't know what a female Indiana Jones would be like yet. I'm giving it the benefit of the doubt with the belief that Spielberg is a great director

[Teddy51]

It wouldn't have been so and as a simple stand alone movie. But they destroyed the ghost busters univers to make it. It's stupid. They're are still endless ideas to explore, new and original charters to invent. I'd rather not see it go the way of marvel comics.

[PervinMervin29]

Would a female Indians Jones basically not just be para croft.

[Teddy51]

Not necessarily. They could start younger and travel by map again. I loved it when he traveled by map.

[Teddy51]

Lara wore tight an somewhat revealing cloths. A bit unrealistic for a lot of her environments, but eye catching. Juniper legends (that's what I'm calling her for now and she's indies basterd-possibly also orphaned- child.) I'm thinking she could dress like the crocodile hunter and his kin. Or she could be Indian or African or something and dress in whatever's popular there. Indie went all over the world and obviously didn't use protection (as evident in his unexpected son, who is already an adult)

[Teddy51]

I've gotta say, I'm liking the idea of a spinoff series more and more. They could just pit the old logo in the corner and make her her own new thing.

[MajorEasy]

I'm all for equality in the sense that women and men can both excel in any area they choose to put effort into...

But...

Indiana Jones and similarly, James Bond are male guilty pleasures of a time gone by... Of men not needing to apologise for being men... And screw up as men would... Yet work it through with persistence, ingenuity and some luck to get to the finish...

I can enjoy Lara Croft for who she is and for doing similar things to Indiana... But in vastly different ways just because she's a woman... That difference makes her interesting and embraceable as a heroine...

Saying there'll be a female Indiana Jones is patronising for the sake of being politically correct...
Likewise having a female James Bond would never be the same... So she beds guys all over the world, throws out cheesy one liners, and flashes the latest gadgets... I have a feeling even women won't watch her...

There are plenty of female leads in spy movies but we enjoy them precisely because they don't act like James... For having a sensitivity that James lacks but no less ruthless and goal focused.

I dread the day they think we should have a male version of Snow White... Or a male version of Mary Poppins...(of course he'll turn out to be a paedophile as the twist of the story...)

All this is politically correctness gone crazy...

[asdfghjkl_821]

I personally think that change is good and if done properly it could be a very entertaining movie. However, for realism and sticking with a franchise, Indiana has been a man for so long and should remain that way. I wouldn’t dislike a female Indiana, I just feel like the story needs to remain consistent. How would you explain 5 movies with a male lead, and then suddenly a female one. If they could make a really good storyline for it, that explains why it’s a female now, give a back story. Maybe a curse? Maybe they’ll make Indiana have a daughter who follows in his footsteps? I just feel like it would need a lot of context to fit with the franchise.

[Teddy51]

The daughter idea is fantastic, just like with Nathan Drakes. It's already been established that he had a son that he never knew about, and he's definitely had a lot of unprotected intercourse. She could not even know about him but have been interested in the same courier because "it's in her blood" and we just find out through her mother looking through old photographs and it never actually being declared, but hinted at... though that would mean a different last name.

[asdfghjkl_821]

I really like the daughter idea as well. I think maybe after discovering she’s his daughter she could decide to change her last name to establish some connection with her father? Or to make herself seem more respectable as a “Jones”

[Teddy51]

Or she was raised in an orphanage and (I'm sort of joking but also not entirely) she goes to university ( doesn't have to be in America, and she doesn't have to be an American... or completely white, necessarily.) And she uses one of the DNA ancestory things and finds out she's related to him, but she's never really heard of him, until this point, and she starts researching him and reads his books or whatever and starts her fist adventure of trying to find him (like indie did). But the movie doesn't have indieanna jones anywhere in the title. Instead, it's a spinoff called Jane Ann and the city of Eldorado, or something like that. They'd just have the old logo in the corner or something.

[Teddy51]

I like the name jasmine, but it needs to be catchier. Juniper Legends, or something foreign to the west entirely. Indie went all over the world, after all.

[jack187625]

The ghost busters film wasn't terrible because it stared women, it was terrible because it was a BAD FILM, terrible story! Bad character development, truly shocking script writting etc.

I think they thought people would watch it and enjoy it BECAUSE it had women in. People don't understand that gender, race and sexualty shouldn't be the focus of a film just to get people to sympathise.

It could be good, but they need someone to replace Harrison Ford and do it well. The last film was terrible and shouldn't of been made. If they can make it good...

[DevilsAdvocator]

Maybe if Henry Walton Jones Jnr and Marion Ravenwood had a daughter, decided to name her "Indiana" after her father's nickname (and after her dad's first dog), and she became the new central character of the franchise. Otherwise, no thanks. Especially if they just did a reboot and do away with the entirety of canon just for the sake of "inclusiveness".

[SirRexington]

So it's basically gonna be Tomb Raider? We all know how well that did...

Look I don't mind having a female archeologist fighting for her life to steal some jewel or artifact, but she literally can't be Indiana Jones. She could be his daughter that he had after a wild night in India but that's about it. Otherwise, she should be her own character who at the most idolizes Jones for his accomplishments.

[MissLogical]

How about instead of taking male characters and making them female for the sake of equality, we make women characters who are just as good and have their own strengths? No one wants Wonder Woman to be played by a man so why make Indiana Jones female?

[SarahsSummer]

you'd rather see a 100 year old Harrison Ford keep doing it? Once he's out, having an open mind as to who plays the next Indy, can only revitalize the franchise.
Remember what they said about the blond Bond and how that would ruin the 007 franchise. Daniel Craig is considered by many to be the best bond there ever was. (not including my dad who is forever Connery)
Oh and there's also the female wolverine, who's nothing short of a total bad ass.

[theflash675]

A female wolverine? Thats from the comics though so not really a remake of the male wolverine. She is a character of her own. It gets a little out of hand when the original display of the character is altered to the point where the character isn't even recognizable anymore.

[ADFSDF1996]

Chris Pratt would be his replacement not a female actress.

[Satine]

can't we have our own character? why reboot indy? if it happens i think i want emily deschanel or felicity jones and no aliens whatsoever.

[Teddy51]

I don't know who those characters are, but that is exactly my stance. Why ruin a good series by trying to rework it a to make it fit major changes. You could just build from the ground up and make something fantastic. They'd own the writs to something they made just as much as something they bought. Rule 69-ing the charters is the job of the Internet and cosplayers. They do it better, anyway.

[Greatcat]

here is the real crux of it all. Why indeed. You want a female indiana jones? Make a lara croft movie ffs

[Teddy51]

What does FFS stand for?

[Greatcat]

@Teddy51 for fucks sake

[Teddy51]

Oh, sorry

[Markasaurous]

I don't care if woman are leads in movies, but MAKE YOUR OWN MOVIE STOP USING WHAT HAS ALREADY BEEN DONE, HAVE YOUR OWN IDEA

[ADFSDF1996]

I agree with you.

[EllezBellez98]

I would rather we leave Indiana Jones and create a new character. Getting real tired of all these reboots and stuff, can't hollywood do something original this decade?

[coralee]

I love how the same people who get upset over this are generally the ones flocking in to see Americanized remakes of other films. It's perfectly okay to white wash characters but the minute gender gets changed people fly into a tiz. It's a movie, if you don't like it don't watch it. A female reboot isn't going to change the originals. There are far more important things at stake in the film industry right now. Generally the lack of creativity and originality in anything lately.

[theflash675]

I don't know i knew people would rather have Bruce lee than some girl remake, or will smith opposed to a white guy playing hancock 2 or i am legend 2.

[coralee]

@theflash675 I'm talking about the numerous white washed American remakes of foreign films. They have even changed races and nationalities of characters based on true stories because Hollywood doesn't think Americans can identify with anyone other then other Americans.

[theflash675]

Oooh yeah, but isn't it a little different though considering that those foreign films aren't really well established here?

[coralee]

@theflash675 Not really. Do you think the people who grew up with those films don't get a little ragey when they see the American bastardized versions? Do you think they don't get attached to their characters as much as we do to ours? If this happens there could very well be an entire generation growing up that views Indiana Jones as female. That will be their version of the character it doesn't have to have an impact on yours. If you want to stop stuff like this from happening put your money where your mouth is and stop paying to see mindless reboots and series that should have ended ages ago. Force Hollywood to spend money on new material by hitting them where it hurts. The wallet.

[theflash675]

While i am all for originality i understand the basis of wanting to being a film overseas. It is different for many reasons. For one, its great to watch a movie without having to read subtitles, and voices in other languages sound alien to a lot of americans. So its not all about whitewashing but making it a little more familiar for us. I personally think the line is drawn when a remake is made just to switch the gender or ethnicity.

[theflash675]

Wanting to bring a film from overseas*

[theflash675]

For example, i would love to see ip man redone here, and i wouldn't mind if a movie that was made here was remade in another country so they can relate.

[coralee]

@theflash675 And that is different from making an Indiana Jones from a female perspective how? Making a remake of Indiana Jones female will help the character be a little more familiar for women. It's the exact same thing. The fact of the matter is that there are still vastly more lead male roles in Hollywood then female. And considering how risk averse movie producers are these days this is the only way we are going to close that gap. As I said before the originals will still be there for you to enjoy let the people who are going to enjoy this one do so.

[theflash675]

Its not the same thing, thats why you have lara croft. The reason why movies are brought overseas is because its alien to us so they it relatable. If you can't relate to a man in a cowboy like i can relate to movies like the blind side with a single mom, even though im not a single mom then i dont know what to tell you. A man playing a role opposed to a women is not on the same scale as a foreign film of people who dont relate to you at all. You also can't relate to a women just because she is a women. Things are never that simple

[theflash675]

If you can't relate to a man in a cowboy hat*

[coralee]

@theflash675 Thousands of Americans enjoy foreign films and relate to the characters just fine without having to Americanize them. Foreign countries watch American made films everyday and still manage to relate to them. They've remade British and Australian films. I'd say if you can't relate to a British man even though you aren't one, I don't know what to tell you. Again this does nothing to the original series with Harrison Ford.

[theflash675]

So. Thousands aren't the majority. Also a British film is a little close to home in a way. I gave the example of ip man for a reason. When i mean foreign films that are alien to us obviously im not talking about euro countries that are like us. Take most Asian countries for example, or middle eastern countries. There is actually a guy in afghan who looks and acts just like bruce lee in afghan who wants to bring bruce lees movies to his people. There is nothing wrong with it and its not om the same scale as just replacing a women with indiana jones.

[coralee]

@theflash675 I still say it is exactly the same thing. Bad reboots get made all the time. If you don't like it don't watch. Let the people who may enjoy it enjoy it and be done with it. I hate reboots in general. I had to suffer through the tragedy of the Nightmare on Elm Street reboot you can suffer from a female Indiana Jones.

[theflash675]

Have you ever seen Prometheus? All reboots are not bad. Tomb raider was actually a really good movie in my opinion because while it was clearly inspired by other American movies it stood in its own light.

[theflash675]

Female indiana jones is just... Well you know. An indiana jones in female form.

[MsLoli]

I don't see the point in suddenly changing up the gender of an originally male character to get more women on the bandwagon. Never have understood that, never will. It's not like we as women can only ever identify with, or empathize with characters that share our genitals. Most of us as human beings SHOULD have the capacity to empathize with other human beings without that being influenced by whether or not the character gets to bleed out of their genitals.

[englisc]

Some complain about the lack of films with a female being the main character - why don't they just create films with female characters rather than always aiming to replace male characters with female ones? I can't understand it myself. A female Indiana Jones would be as ridiculous as a male Lara Croft.

[Kai02]

When we say we want more strong female leads, we want original characters. We don't want to replace males we want to get our own heroes

[Ahsthen]

Become your own hero. Or, simply not need the concept. NOW THAT'S PROGRESSIVE.

[ZanyInternetName]

I do think that the franchise should have died after the trilogy was finished. It had a good run.

I would not have a problem with creating an Indiana Jones-esque role that is a female. I mean, Lara Croft exists. However, if they simply swap an established character's sex … well, that'd be mere lazy writing.

[PervinMervin29]

It Would also be lazy casting and lazy producing.

[HelloImClueless]

I would be fine if they roped it into Harrison ford's last movie as Indiana Jones. Kinda like him passing on the torch. If they make it good with a female character with good character development, good attributes, and all that. I would be interested. I just want to see another movie with a Mary Sue stereotype that makes the films boring.

[ciitruskiwi]

I'm all for equality but all these female reboots are getting ridiculous. Not every male character needs a female version. What's next? Wonder Man and Cat Man? FFS..

[alice55]

It’s absolutely ridiculous. That's an horrible idea too are they changing Marion gender?
The only ways I would be ok with it would be if it was his daughter then it's ok even though I would personally prefer if it was a guy (his sons) to continue his adventure.

[Leafpool2]

See this is why we've gone back to hang nerds. Y'all could be smart about anything but no you out all your energy into hating hypothetical women and yelling about shitty meme sauce.

[Leafpool2]

*hating

[PervinMervin29]

Aren't these the same nerds that went to wonderwoman, tomb raider, hunger games, red sparrow, Annihilation, rogue one, the force awakens and will go see Captain Marvel this year? All orginal charcters and plots. Nothing wrong with wanting more quality movies with women leads but emphasis on quality.

[Ahsthen]

@PervinMervin29 : there's nothing in scifi (skiffy, as in iffy) that's remotely original, nor worth telling.

[PervinMervin29]

@Ahsthen your mother...

[theflash675]

I'd say the general consensus from downvotes is that you are outnumbered and should be sentenced to exile and sent to a distant planet.

[Ahsthen]

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[Ahsthen]

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[PervinMervin29]

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[Ahsthen]

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