
Is Ariana Grande a true artist, or does she owe her success to great marketing and her body?


Another manufactured hypnosis pacifier. Compare her "talent" with that of Weird Al. Need I elaborate?
Heck, her lyrics? I've spent more creativity remaking an old 80s tune to be a mix of Sesame Street and Willy's Wonderland!
Let her whine about love and sex. And I'll sing a tune about how to avoid getting dragged to Hell by the Muppets. Let her whine about sex some more, while my DJ Duckslaughter character belts out an edutainment song about killing poultry, set to the tune of Heathens by 21 Pilots. Let her keep whining about the one that got away, while my parody of Justin Timberlake escapes a female serial killer and then battle royales against her in the streets like it's the freakin' Hunger Games!
Let Ariana or Adele or whoever whine about what their vagina smells like. I'll show you how I made an entire Krampusnacht album!
Let Halsey curse someone out over gasoline or sex or whatever tie-in to Orange is the New Black she's gonna attempt next week. And I'll show you a singing pig, doing his own version of Tobey Keith's "How Do You Like Me Now?" themed around Alice in Wonderland!
Better writing talent exists. It's a matter of access to production.
Personally I think she doesn’t present the best message.
She’s had plastic surgery, the music isn’t all that innovative, a few good songs, but honestly her last album for example it was selling itself as this “elegant” sort of pop RnB sound and it just wasn’t. More like “faux-elegance.” Kind of trashy lyrics. Just not a great piece of work in my opinion, yet she’s being marketed as if she’s the “greatest artist of this generation” based on how widespread her presence is.
I don’t think so. She’s being promoted as this figure to look up to for young girls and I’m not seeing much good in that. Sorry. Great voice, but she largely represents what’s wrong with popular music in my opinion. Promoting a fake image and phony packaging. Lacking authenticity.
She's an amazing true artist. sucks people can't see it that way sometimes.
but she was sick this one time while performing this but still aced it through with her true voice and her true talent.
she's amazing honestly and has gone through so much in her past, yet stands getting stronger with all the pain. I wanna learn that from her
she's also so good with heels on, she wears so high heels and frickin performs on the stage like damn, and also frickin does dance moves in em god bless her
Yes doing what she does with heels is amazing, I've even seen her make men wear heels 🤣
She obviously has a great voice (but also uses autotune to enhance it) but tbh her songs are too bland for me, I don’t find them catchy and none of them stand out to me like Halo from Beyoncé or Beautiful from Christina Aguilera do. I think she’s better than Selena Gomez Taylor Swift or Olivia Rodrigo though.
I forgot to say that I think the reason she is praised is because she is the only female artist from the new generation that at least has a great voice
she doesn't use autotune bruhhhhhhh lmao
have you ever heard of any of her live performances?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnjlUGGkVQk check it out and come back and tell me.
@ItsMeElliana yeah I know, she has a naturally excellent voice in that she’s on Christina Aguilera’s level, I just meant in the studio recordings or at least that’s what I heard I could be wrong
In some of her studio recordings I meant
other artists do that too, for studio, but live she actually uses her voice
Opinion
77Opinion
Pop Music Industry is a very Political one with a lot of Behind the scene twists and plays. They prioritize Marketablity and Monetization rather than Actual Talent or Art.
There's so many Female artists with Pure Talent and Stay true to their craft.
But the Industry dont really care about Craft.
They'd just want Nice Looking Girls with average or above average talent for Generic Music.
When it comes to music, If lots 10-15 year old girls and popular highschool/college teenagers are relating to it, It's just Generic Music and Not Unique or Authentic.
Music is one of the few entertainment industries where your body really doesn't matter much. Style does to an extent for marketing purposes and every major artist that is widely popular without fail has a good marketing team. You need it.
But Ariana Grande is an amazing singer. I wouldn't say her music is better than say Bruno Mars or Adele. But she is an amazingly skilled singer with catchy music tho I wouldn't say great
Bang bang into the room still rings in my ears lol
Ariana Grande is sh*t at everything she does. And I'm not even trying to be mean; she just outright sucks. So yeah, it's definitely the great marketing. Not that that's rare or anything. Katy Perry is just as talentless, and so was Britney Spears. And so is the entire K Pop industry. They're just dancing monkeys, not actual singers.
Have you heard her sing? https://youtu.be/_wZL-imPgV8
I feel like she could do better than some songs that she has
I love Whitney Houston
Her parents set her up to be marketed at a very young age. They even changed her last name so it was more marketable. She was then mass marketed by pedo producers that work for Disney and Nickelodeon. Those pedo producers typically pick young girls that they think are good looking and can market them. So all in all, I think it’s marketing, but that’s for most artists. Very hard in todays day and age to find a talented artist become famous
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnjlUGGkVQk watch this and tell me. if thats not talent, what is.
@itsmeEliana that’s not talent, that’s her getting the proper training she needed due to the fact that she was already famous and had an image created for her. No coincidence that she started out as a child actress
@kyleelyn199723 yup its sad i seen the expose videos on him with children in his lap the foot fetish stuff and the unsupervised pool parties he had with kids and like you said parent's just dropped them off & the two people he closely worked with were locked up for chomo charges & after one of them was fired by Nick for it. Disney re-hired him it's all sick.
She’s very talented, but she also owes a lot of her success and popularity to Nickelodeon.
I also like Victoria Justice
yet not many used to watch it or got to know her from the show. she brought herself up, with her talent.
She's a good singer and she is pretty. She's also got some pretty ghetto values, dates thugs, and of course she doesn't write any of her songs, though most pop artists don't.
She's thus a mixed bag, but she makes money for people so she gets work, and fame, and all the trappings that come with it.
She's been singing for a lot of years and a true artist any true artist would have a marketing strategy a visual strategy it's a big game to make as much money as you possibly can I don't like all of her songs but I do like a lot of her songs and yes you are right she is beautiful she is sexy I like your voice I like the way she looks I like the way she acts I like how she carries herself she's a true artist
Marketing mostly. I mean, she's not a bad singer, but there's a few thousand other girls out there who sound exactly the same. In fairness though, pretty much *every* teen star of a Nickleodeon / Disney TV show has tried their luck at singing, and she's had a more successful music career than most of them - possibly the most successful since the days of the Mickey Mouse Club, which obviously gave us Britney, Christina Aguilera, Justin Timberlake and JC Chasez (and Ryan Gosling, bizarrely).
As they say, sex sells. And there's a lot of sexual based marketing utilized with all of her videos and promotions. I'd rather listen to music that entails regular musicians who write all their own lyrics and instrumentals. Like most pop artists, she doesn't write shite and doesn't make the instrumentals. "God Is A Woman" for example wasn't even written by Ariana and it wasn't supposed to be sung by her initially. Camilla was the original singer for the song. Hilarious.
I honestly call dibs on the second option. And that goes for most modern "artists", both female and male.
As opposite to art that comes from the last century, none of these people that are at the head of the "hit parades" now are gonna survive the decade. Or generally make history.
I am not a teen.
I only know 1 or 2 songs from her. I mainly know her from her Nick show Victorious.
About her music. I don't know if she writes her own music. If she writes the music she sings then I'd say she is an artist. If others write songs and she just performs them than it isn't artistry she would just be a performer... image and choreography.
personally i think she is a true artist!! she has an amazing voice and is one of my favourites!! i never watched whichever shows she used to be on🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️ so i’m a fangirl just because of the music😊😊
You know my friend thought she was Selena Gomez after the weight loss.
We really had a laugh as he thought they were the same person but she was just playing the "Hana Montana" game.
Anyway, pop music genre in general is shit for me. But in the case of Ariana, she's not really as big as she and her fanbase think she is.
I'm not into Ariana Grande's music, just not my style. However, I'd say she is talented and has a pretty amazing voice. It does help her that she is very attractive too. I'm sure there have been other women that have had great voices that didn't do as well because they didn't have the looks to go with it.
Big succes of popstars is often through marketing and finding the audience, though popstars sure also need some features, like talent and charisma, which she does have. But I don't really see much of an artist in her, for one she does not create her own music.. she has an amazing voice but I feel she is more technically good than giving out emotions. But her style is not me either so can also be why I don't sense her.
I didn't even know she was a singer. I jus remember her in icarly being cute and gorgeous. That for sure propelled her to success... Being hot and having a good personality is an art too.. it's not jus something everyone's born with.. it's not like she jus got famous from nothing... Why do you think models get famous?
Being blessed with good genetics is a talent in itself
Ariana doesn't have much of a body but she is wrong for making her song God is woman, I lost respect for her ever since she made that song and I used to be such a huge fan of hers but until she made that song with her disrespectful ass.
Sure, she can sing and write some songs too.
But that's not all when it comes to an artist.
An independent artist who dares to speak their mind and doesn't need the industry in order to succeed, there you have in my oppinion a real artist.
Tom Macdonald is one example of that.
Seeing how her career started at age 15 in a Broadway music she is a true artist. Her true reason for her success is landing a role on a Nickelodeon show. Her true show of her talents it her ability tranfer smothly from teen idol to mainstream celebrity.
Putting on a successful performance requires a lot of effort and work - it might not require the same type of brain as academic intelligence or STEM intelligence but it’s just as hard as any accounting or waitressing job.
She was (metaphorically) made in a factory for entertainment media consumption. There is absolutely nothing unique or special that she brings to the table that isn't also done by a dozen other cookie-cutter popstars.
Kinda a silly question. She got famous because of nickelodeon and her amazing singing on there. She just carried on and her voice developed as her career did. I wouldn't say she used her body. Her videos are pretty tame, especially in earlier years.
Just listen to her sing and you will have your answer...
true artist, of course great marketing helps artists getting more publicity etc, but besides that she *is* a great actress and she has an amazing singing voice aswell.
She can sing, and she's pretty. However, she's like all the other pop tarts when you get down to it. It's like they come off of an assembly line somewhere.
I think she can actually sing. I've seen videos of her singing acapella and even doing imitations of other singers very well like Celine Dion. So I'll say she is a true artist but she is also very pretty and a great body!
She does pretty good arrangements/coaching on the voice so I assume she has some talent behind her as well as having her looks and marketing team to thank.
Coming from somebody who is not a fan of her songs at all I think she's actually super talented and beautiful (especially during victorious days). Just I wish somebody else could write her songs and stuff. But this girl is like the full package.
I think she’s a great singer. Body wise she’s not much to look at. Face wise she’s like really pretty. Now if you asked do I think she’s trying to sell more by switching and singing all these “sex” songs…maybe.
anyone who listens to her songs will knows how talented she is. would you only recognize her talent if she was ugly?
I'm not sure about calling her an industry plant.
She was an actor in some Nickelodeon productions before some music A&R picked her up for her vocal talent.
She is one of the more innovative of their kind performing music live with immogen heaps gloves for example. Takes actual talent.
Ariana Grande - Butera name was not changed she carries her mother's last name Grande Joan. Her Father's last name is Butera, Edward that is her birth name.
Like many autotuned sellouts she's got 0 tallent but many 0's in her account regardless.
If she was an artist this wouldn't even be a question
she doesn't use autotune
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnjlUGGkVQk watch it and come back to tell me if I'm wrong. honest to god if you dont think thats talent, I don't know what is.
No joke I do not like all her songs but God she could sing look at this https://youtu.be/_wZL-imPgV8
I’ve seen videos of her since she was little and I really feel like she was always meant to become a singer 🥺
No she isn't true artist, she has a very pretty face and shape, but lacks the vocal range and songwriting ability to be considered a true artist.
She is just a product and is certainly not an artist of any kind.
well now you know, you dont have taste :)
Both all women in singing have this. Why do you think so many of them get plastic surgery. Of course I am only referring to our generation of singers. The 1900s and before actually had talent that would go beyond what people saw in front of them
In my opinion, NONE of the present day celebrities can be considered artists. None is great. Art is beautiful all on its own. Other than sex, violence, and the gutter, what do these celebrities sell, exactly?
She’s a stereotypical Instagram model type. Mediocre talent at best. All this crap started with Paris Hilton years ago and has gradually gotten worse.
Lmao not even
@StrawberryShake well pretty privilege is a very real thing.
Now do i blame her for making the most of it? Heck no. She’s sitting on a winning lotto ticket. But let’s imagine she was unattractive but everything about her voice and performance talent was exactly the same. Would she be ever well known? Most likely not.
Ariana has no body lmao. So yes her voice is the true talent
she did a lot of auto tuning when she was YT content creator. Her face got her to where she's at for sure.
Dudes like females who look like hot children. It is apparently a fantasy.
You can be a true artist and still benefit achievements from your marketing team.
Well you'd have to be a fool to not see the involvement in all of that and more.
She does have a great voice but not that many great songs if you ask me lol
That's the definition of most pop singers. And she is one of them.
Probably both, in this era of music/pop culture being pretty can actually get you somewhere
Most performers today are enhanced by technology.
I happen to like Ariana Grande's music.
You have to be all of those things to even squeak by at her level. She's not the best, but she's a true artist.
Looks are always half the success in show business. There are a lot of better talents that don't look as good.
Good for her, but it is what it is.
I feel recently she has started using her body for that kind of stuff and has been too sexual and detailed in some lyrics.
She has a sexiness to her, but I can't pinpoint it. She has sexy lips for sure and a pretty face. Her long nails sometimes scare me though lol. Too long and sharp for me. 😨
I don't know but she is cute and famous good enough for me
No she is very talented, an amazing singer, and she’s also a great person
Bro I can’t believe that people are saying that she can’t sing 😮 I’m not a fan of all of her songs but she is an amazing singer. You should update with a video of her singing.
I think she’s very talented. I don’t like her vibe but she’s very pretty and has a great voice
She's a true artist. Ariana's voice sales. That's all her
I do find her to be one of the most attractive pop singers this generation
She can sing. But she’s also a huge slut and a bad influence to girls that are growing up
Depending on marketing or such does not in any way imply someone is not a “true” artist
Men don’t give a crap about famous females rather Chase girls working at 7-Eleven or Walmart or whatever as long as the attractive.
You can also add your opinion below!