I’ve never a woman’s magazine have an overweight short man on the cover, but it seem like men always have to like a woman no matter how she looks
Would women be ok with a short bold man in the cover of there magazines
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Wouldn’t the easiest way to prove me wrong is to just post a woman’s magazine with a short bald man on the cover? Teen vogue, cosmopolitan? All have Justin beiber and that guys from twilight. So I’m not wrong.
How come men have to be ok with women of all sizes but women can still say they don’t date short bald men?
You are talking about 2 different things here. For magazines, their main goal is to attract and sell as much as possible. Therefore, it makes sense to get beautiful and handsome celebrities or models to be on their front cover page. Even magazines meant for men, they would be showcasting beautiful and sexy women. Yes, you are right in that probably no one would want to buy a women's magazine with a short bald man on the cover page. Similarly, probably no men would also want to buy a magazine where the female model is obese, balding and average-looking. So, I don't get your point when you quote magazines and linked it to unfairness and inequality for men.
And secondly, there will always be people who get offended by anything and take all opinions as a personal attack. I feel that for these people, they just want to win an argument, even if they know they are wrong. For me, everyone can have their preferences, if you only prefer slim women, it's fine by me. Who are we to say that you should like vs shouldn't like anything or anyone?
They changed the magazine to a much larger women because there goal was to promote a much larger body type in a sport magazine so they can tell men that they are in control and can dictate what we find attractive, it’s the same reason last month issue has a trans woman on it. Women nowadays believe that men need to change and become more like them. And honestly I don’t care if you believe me or not. I wouldn’t expect a woman to see how men are seen as toxic. So that just my opinion.
Men don't have to be ok with women of all sizes. Men can have their preferences. Body positivity is more about being respectful towards people and accepting despite their body types being different. That doesn't mean that men are required to be attracted to any body type. The same thing applies to women. Women are allowed to have their preferences too. I don't think many women in the world would be attracted to the guy in your image, but I definitely won't disrespect him based on his appearance. I am all for people wanting to feel comfortable in their own skin, but at the same time, that doesn't mean I have to date you. Also, whether or not a woman would date a short balding guy depends on the woman. I've seen plenty of short bald guys with girlfriends. Just because you're short and bald doesn't mean you lack sex appeal and/or can't be a good man. As for short bald men not being on magazine covers, that's simply not true. Evidence for that can be found below.
Yet bald jokes are all too common both in person. I wear baseball caps to work, I was never actually trying to hide my hair loss I just liked the way they looked on me. Anyway long story short I overheard several conversations over the last 6 months at this job mocking baldness (granted most of these jackasses are in their early 20s..) It is also common to hear weak 'bald jokes' on TV etc.
People would never get away with doing this to women who are well overweight. I imagine the only people who do are Stand-up comics, and that's a dying field, in this "my fweelings" generation. Imagine people watching Archie Bunker today. They'd be offended at every sentence.
Anyway, I digress. I do not care if people make fun of baldness if it is not personal. But lets not pretend there is not a double standard.
Besides.. generally speaking.. women can lose weight. Men can't gain hair.. unless you believe some of those miracle cure BS, or maybe way out of any average man's price range hair implants (who knows if they even work, I don't care wouldn't throw that much money at it) Where as, for large women it's as simple as hitting the gym and or dieting.. Do both for faster maximum results.
Yes there is an obvious double standard, as usual. Lets cut the bull.
@Mossberg500: I don't understand the big deal with baldness. I only consider baldness unattractive when the guy is missing much of his hair, but he refuses to shave it off like that guy in the photo that the asker @chris_987 posted. Plenty of bald guys are sexy. Yes, guys in their early 20s usually have perfect hairlines and a full head of hair, and they're usually immature, so they make their jokes. Yet, give them about ten years and you might see some hairline changes. They wouldn't be laughing anymore then. Nevertheless, for somebody that calls this a "my fweelings generation," you sure are in your feelings about bald jokes. That's alright though. We're not perfect. No matter how tough we think our skin is or how tough we want it to be, there are things that still hurt our feelings. It's natural and it's what makes us human. Yes, women can lose weight, I agree. Men can't grow hair back I agree (unless they get Hair Club for Men treatment for about $15,000), but they can still be bald and sexy. Hair really isn't everything. In fact, if you ask me, baldness is more masculine. By the way, you do realize that being overweight isn't the only thing that could make woman unattractive, right?
Well this isn't about me, it's about the title of the topic. Generally speaking, I don't care what others think about me. I just find the double-standard laughably irrational. But there is not much rational thinking going on in the world right now, so it's understandable.
However, I still appreciate the rest of the sentiment behind your comment.
You know this-its the female rule that men are always in the wrong and women in the right. I notice a LOT of couple now where he is in decent shape and she is a fat cow. ? The reason is the shameless female double standard. Decades of feminist propaganda have told them that men are to blame for all their ills. Feminism used to be about equality. No longer. I have been single for about 5 years after a long marriage. I have no problem getting dates but have found that women have gotten so entitled and difficult in dating that I am seriously considering high end escorts-beauty, good sex, much less expensive than dating with a guaranteed outcome. True they are just doing it for the money but that is true of most women dating-and they ACT less mercenary than most women dating do.
You're confused. Jeff Bezos and other short bald men appear on mag covers all the time.
What you seem confused about is that magazine covers are a reflection on pics, and stories inside. Who the hell wants to read the miserable lives of non-successful short bald men? Why the hell have you got such a hardon for short bald men anyway?
With "woman of all sizes" you have their struggles and successes that women and some men can relate to. Short bald men, needed to do nothing to become short or bald. In fact it's hereditary, you would be better talking to their short bald fathers, on how they feel looking at their short bald son.
But regardless, can you really see yourself paying $10-$15 for a magazine about short bald men?
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Not, true guys don't like girls all size, or with imperfections. After all I watched a YouTube women who had acne, doing make up tutorials for girls with acne. They were 100's of guys telling her, she was disgusting and need to wash her face. When she made a video of how she had gone to professional skin doctor's that could help her, that is when she got a group of people telling her it's okay. Also, most fat YouTube women are told to go kill themselves or lose weight. Most of the time people just call the pigs or fatties. So don't lie about guys being all accepting of all women when, you only what hot models and if those girls you like, don't like bald men. That's not my problem, it's because you want to date girls that aren't into you. If you date a girl that likes you, but is your type maybe, you would be ting BS like that on here. This the video I mentioned above.
You can’t compare trolls and keyboard warriors on the internet to real life, people say n** over the internet all the time but I’ve never been called a n** in real life. So same goes for fat women if a girl is fat she’s most likely never been made fun by a guy IRL and fat girls usually have had more sexual partners that skinny women, mostly because they’re not full of themselves. And there more will to be friends with benefits, so yeah that just the reality of life
It's hard for both man and women to be accepted. I have coloured skin, so trust me I have know my share of abuse. I just wish people would just think before they open there mouths. I have more worry about, that if a guy has hair or not. So, they guy asking this question didn't think about all those women that have been hated for things they can't change. His hair lose is the same, so why is it he's making himself the victim. When I am not here playing the colour card.
The guy your referring to is me because I posted the question and I don’t know what things women can’t change about themselves, I’ve literally see women become a completely different person. So I’m just not understanding anything your trying to say which is bad if your goal is to try to make me understand you
I can't change my skin colour, I was made to feel ugly because of it, but I not going to bleach my skin or wear camouflage make up to my colour more appealing to guys. Also, there are guys that are still racist to this day, so your telling me guys are accepting of all girls. Yet, that is not my experience of that of most of my family members. I am not saying girls are any better at accepting guys. Because they aren't, both sides dislike things about one another. I had to lose weight because, this guy I was dating said I was fat, I ended our relationship, and lost 1 stone. So this guy didn't accept me. I wasn't even overweight, I was a healthy weight.
2 things, if you live in a town where people are racist then that like a small percentage of the population, you should move to a place where your skin colour is celebrated or block those negative people out. Because they don’t represent the rest of the world. And secondly, why would a guy who think your fat ask you out just to tell you to lose weight? He’s probably a psychopath and likes controlling women. So your bad experience in what ever part of the world you live in doesn’t represent normal society.
Cause if I’m attracted to a curvy girl the last thing I want her to do is change her figure, but where I live those are the girls that are most stuck up because every guys wants them.
I live in the UK in a city with not very nice people. Can't afford to move, but when I can I am off to a country that isn't full of scumbags. I guess people in different countries are different. The girls in you country are different, also skinheads are the most popular guys here, that is like bald look, but shave that way. Most of them are in relationships in the city I live. So, I don't really understand why you though girls don't like bald guys. I only know a hand full of cake faced girls that hate guys that don't have hair. Most of the girl here like them. Also, you're right about the toxic guy, he was a creep. Had 2 good relationships, but 1 not worth talking about relationship. So I know not all guys are jerks, but I was bullied since I was a little kid and hated by my teachers because I was a different colour. I didn't understand back then, but I knew something wasn't right by the way my teachers looked at me, I even had a teacher watch as some kid pushed me to the ground and he just walked away. I have to admit it would be nice to have lived in a place where people don't hate me because of my colour.
You could leave in a place like that but that doesn’t mean you’ll be happier, where I live girls are constantly approached by guys and think that there better. So you might hate where you live but it probably means your humble. If you lived here you would feel like guys are useless and would probably be a lesbian like most girls up here.
Yes, true but I only like guys. I just going to find the right guy, for me and you need to work hard and find someone for yourself too. I feel there is someone that will like you. Also, if that's you in your profile pic, you a 8/10 in my book so don't beat yourself up, own it and get a girl that cares for you.
No that not me, that Eazy E a rapper from the 90’s that died from aids, but I appreciate you encouragement, girls up here aren’t aren’t really looking for love, most of them just want money and they will adopt a child rather being with a man
No, I live in a UK version or a hood, and if you have money you can move, but if you don't you have to live in a place that isn't that great. Here the place I live is £85000 and to move to a different place it's £150000. So this place is cheap for a reason.
You don't have to like anything. Women as a whole faught to have differences in our beauty standards. It took a lot for curvy and plus size models to come about. As for bald headed short men, I highly doubt they care to be a model. If so, they could always speak up about it. Standards are expanding. I've seen plenty of bald men in magazines.. as for height, in the model industry that's something hard to work past. There's not even short female models, if you put celebrities aside. However, look up Danny Devito 💁🏽♀️
I've never seen a cover with an overweight short bald woman, not as a model anyway. If you're gonna be balding, commit. Totally bald is more attractive than that guy. And men are different than women, he needs more clothes as he is overweight or to at least change position. 🙄 you can't show a picture of an attractive overweight woman and an unattractive overweight man and compare them like its typical. Not to mention the women on magazine covers are generally tall as well. At least 58 while then men are 510, higher end of average for both. I've seen tons of overweight men advertising items, and some bald. You see a couple bald female models but not a lot. It seems more like you're saying someone is ugly just because they are fat, and that's just not factual. There are attractive fat people. But there are unattractive fat people and unattractive skinny people, and I am sorry to you that ugly people don't get as much screen time. 🤷♀️
Look up male model, then look up female model. Male models are all body's, while the women are all face. Meaning any man who wants to work out and is tall enough, he can become a model. But women have to have a naturally stunning and unique face, otherwise they're kinda screwed. Exceptions are in both, but still. Female plus sized models are still by far the minority. Most women models are very skinny and slim, while male models are all muscular and get to eat however much they want.
I’d be fine with it. Unrelated but George Costanza managed to get success opportunities in life and with women but he always screwed it up and ended up hating the ladies he dated over silly things. Just a little funny FYI of his character from Seinfeld.
Yeah but there was an episode where he wouldn’t date a girl because she was bold.
And guys are not forcing girls to like short bold men. That’s why there are not men like that on women’s magazines. I just goes to show how much influence women have
But why do you feel you are being forced to accept women of diverse sizes if you don't have a problem with what a woman looks like. I think it goes both ways. Some people like a certain man or woman rather tall, fat, short, skinny, bald, short or long hair, husky, etc.
Look. Just get a woman your own height unless you like taller woman and she likes taller men. LET ME EXPLAIN. Weight is one factor. Height is ANOTHER. Weight can be matched and changed. Height can not be matchedand changed. . If he is overweight and Shorter than her, it is an extra factor.
I’m not talking about me personally, I’m just referring to the women tell men what they should like. Like if men tell women they should love a man with a small dick and a balding hairline they’ll laugh in his face. But there very quick to tell us we should judge any women and all you are beautiful. That is hypocritical to me
@lovinglover you do know height doesn’t define a guy right? I’m 5’9, I’ve played lacrosse, rugby, basketball, hockey, football and have been knocked to the ground, elbowed in the face, bloodied and bruised by guys bigger then me and it’s built my character. I know tall guys who are actually indecisive or wimpy in life. I think even if a man is 5’7 but has confidence, smart, caring, decent looking and takes care of himself that’s very good... a girl can’t say omggggg ewwwww!! I mean if that’s the case I may as well say this should be the standard for women (fyi- I don’t think that way)... Pamela Anderson from the 90s, but see women would take offence to this.
@MarvelFan1993 if course i know... it's just about attraction... some people dont need attraction and regret, other don't... I just said. Why is there a problem if women dont liek shorter men? Some accept it... and the ones who don't have reason of feeling
I'm not going to wallow in misery because girls prefer tall guys, but the reason why I listed those things is that girls assume tall guys are the protectors and that mindset can be traced the Paleolithic Era aka Caveman era. Men would hunt and gather be the dominant species by protecting their wife and offspring. But even then those men weren't tall, even going back to the rise of Abrahamic era, men such as Moses to all the prophets of the time they were not extremely tall men, Jesus was not a super tall. I actually dated a girl who was 5'10 and at the time I was like 5'7 and she didn't mind because she liked me for me and truly did. It didn't work out because part of me was immature as a younger guy but w. e. I just hope girls see the other side as well and be understanding about it. Here's another example, Michael Jordan's parents (his mom was like 5'4, his dad was like 5'8), Jordan himself grew to be 6 ft 6, but that involves a lot of activity, stretching, playing sports like basketball to help your body develop. You can say women, us women like it because it's romantic, well giving flowers is romantic right? But a girl isn't going to accept flowers from every guy. When people look up in the sky at night or through a telescope, you stop and wonder how tiny we really are in this unimaginable huge universe. I'll just end with it's a girl choice what she wants and I will leave it at that so it doesn't seem like i'm riding on this topic.
I've noticed some "body positive" people tend to criticize thin women or say things like "only a dog likes a bone", talk about how thin girls with no curves aren't "real women", etc.
Plus, like you said, the fact that so many women expect men to accept overweight women the way they are, but are not willing to do that for an overweight man. Or short, bald, etc.
It's completely fine to have physical preferences, but it's important for these people to realize that that applies to everyone and not just them. It's also okay for men to prefer thinner, fitter women, women with longer hair, etc.
Oh like the time they hated Adele for losing all that weight. Yeah I see what you mean, they are never happy. That why we shouldn’t be listening to people that a generally sad all the time
Yes, very true. There is a lot of jealousy and misery in the world, and many of those people would rather tear down everyone around them rather than build themselves up.
Yes, very true! Honestly, I think a lot of people are too busy trying to convince themselves that they're better than everyone else and trying to cut others down below them rather than being truly happy with who they are.
Noo, you can date who you like thats okay. The problem is lots of men shame women when they are not his preference. Like some guys date girls with small boobs and then keep telling her they wish they were bigger that's toxic. Some bold men actually look good tbh other don't. I don't like men who are smaller than men because it makes me feel like the man in the relationship thats my preference and its okay for me or a man to have. Just don't shame people for not being what you like.
Guys & women too may say they're ok with all sizes of men or women. You brought up a good example with the bald fat men, being a person of size women often aren't interested in me, being large-boned & and framed shows the extra weight very easy. I know it sounds like an excuse, but a lot of men are built that way. There are also medical reasons like low thyroid & fluid retention are also a problem I've lost a lot of fluid, sometimes as much as 300 lbs in a two month period. People of both sexes go on looks and the other sex has to stand up to that look. Men & women, in general, are attracted to the slim pretty girls or the guys that are in shape. like a bodybuilder. The less attractive, heavy, larger, plainer people get shot down or ignored. These are the ones who have picked on and sorry to say easy marks to feel some love & atention from the other sex.
I feel both male and female take looks in account. Just that some do and some don't. Society pushes the agenda about how women and men should look. Especially women... If you look at television shows of the past the mother was small the father could be fat, short, etc... You never see a fat woman and slim man. If she was fat, she was the maid, cook or she was a single mom.. TV shows of today are more diverse. Fashion industry also pushed the agenda in a big way... And, now there's diversity.
Big and Tall stores are everywhere. So, yeah... You have big and Tall bald men on the runway. Where have you been. Bald and fat men are Hollywood. So, that's another genre of society that influence society of what is attractive.
How do you figure that, if women are the only ones telling men they should like all bodies, men do not have a body positively movement. The is literally an overweight girl in a health magazine and you think things are getting better? That’s crazy.
You are being hypocritical of your own perception. You don’t want women to nose dive men for their looks but you take shoot at a full figured woman on a magazine. Just because you are small doesn't make you healthy. It's a double edge sword to me. Damn if you do and damn if you don't. We live in a male dominant society that tries to prompt agendas or propagandas to the people at large. Some feed into it and some don't.
LOL! You don’t think you live in a male dominant society? LOL! Feminist was created by men. Yeah, a woman rose to the occasion to lead women in great victory... But honestly who put that bug in her ear? Who drove her to from dependent to independent? Just like slavery... People are not freed because of empathy, they are freed because of greed and gain. Just like they are slaved for greed and gain. Nothing is done in this world without a great significance for greed and gain. Some things are what it seems but most things are not.
Case in point... The reason you are mostly likely starting to see the full figure woman agenda is because the average woman size is 14-18. If you wanna make the American woman happy and shopping online you better appeal to her true vanity and not one she has to fight for if she's not motivated to. But, here comes all the weight lost programs.. gyms.. plastic surgery... everyone benefits from the promotion of trying to have the perfect figure or look. It's bigger than you think. People actually study people to market to them. I use to work for a Interior Design company. The vendors were selecting colors from cars to countertops that they were going to flood the market with. During the 90s the color to have in a car was green, right behind that was silver, black...80s red, black... All you see, buy, etc.. is marketed to you. Influence the way you think and buy etc.
Your missing my point, which is women are hypocrites without knowing it, like I could post a video about not wanting girls who are fat and women will be upset with me, and say all body types are acceptable, mean while women will say a man can't be short and has to have a big dick. So I don’t know why you keep bring up society being males dominated when I’m talking about something else
Chris_987 it is no different of man passing up a woman with big titties and ass with a small waist. Rather she's petite or small to medium. Men will choose women that look like a model before a woman that looks average. It goes both ways. And, a woman doesn't know your penis size if she doesn't know how to gauge without having sex with a man. Some of us are just talented that way. We know what you are working with without you being aroused. And, it is not your hands.
Oh No, Another feminist bringing up really bad talking points in the discussion about why women have such unrealistic hypocritical expectations. "Get the gun my boy".
Yeah, my boy get the gun! Let's have a showdown, Quick Draw ! Dude, I'm so not a feminist. I believe you treat people like you want to be treated. I don't put energy to all these movements. I see all views to understand everyone's point a view and draw "my" personal opinion. My opinion is not Bible. Women and men need to stop battling each other with these stupid thoughts about one another. Both do the same and think the same towards each other. You may go about it differently but you produce the same results. Shallow thinking of what's physically attractive.
i'll be friends with almost anyone but that doesn't mean i'll date them. i make sure i don't give the wrong impression
it's up to the editor who is on the cover and i could care less because i don't read that crap. maybe seventeen magazine but only to keep up with the news
personally I look for a woman that is generally health, likes how she looks and is 100% natural. but as to shape or size for whole body or individual body parts I am not overly picky. some girls look better slim and others look better with a bit extra on them.
but many modern girls want a guy who is equal height or taller then they are. and also healthy and fit for the most part.
It's cause we're only in 2020, in some years it's women who wouldn't be able to say such things. But for this to happen men have to stop criticizing women and actually start to do the same things women did in 2010s (which is saying every body is attractive, etc...). Attacking women on their hypocrisy will do nothing and only put them against you.
It is not how it works. So what if all men stopped criticizing women? There's no incentive now nor then for women to not criticize men. That's not me whining, that's me telling you that you are wrong.
My point is telling people they are attractive when they are not, is not part of reality.
@David_Kek I'm right. You just can't understand a basics sentence. Men should stop criticizing women all the time since nothing good can came out of it, it's mean and pointless and it make women angry and uncooperative about men condition.
And telling ugly people are ugly is worthless and don't do anything good except making them depressed. you're truly a mean person.
Real men don't buy that PC crap where somebody else tells us what we can be attracted to. FTS! I'm not attracted to fat girls and that's not gonna change!
Your question is "How come men have to be ok with women of all sizes but women can still say they don’t date short bald men?" but then you start talking about magazine covers, as if magazine editors speak for all men or all women. Those people may claim to speak for the collective judgment of one gender or the other but magazines are far out of touch with real people.
But you know it’s just a women saying men need to change, whereas if there are men working at woman’s magazine industry he not gonna tell them they should put traditionally unattractive men on the cover of there magazine.
We don't have to be ok with anything. There's just no point in commenting on a woman's weight. You're either attracted to her or not. If you're dating, and she puts on a bunch of "comfort weight", you just tell her it's not working out and move on. You don't have to tell her why.
I'd say we pretty publicly talk about girls we will or will not date. Maybe certain magazines who cater to females focus on their end, but let's be real lol.
It's true that men receive more shit for saying it, but men still say it.
I’ve never met a woman who did not like bald men and more woman are open to ugly men than men who are open to ugly woman I know morbidly obese guys who refuse to date moderately fat girls and I know normal looking guys who tell their 90 pound girlfriends they need to lose weight - yep they married and divorced because she finally learned he’s bad
Guys also have standards like shorter and skinny and breasts and butt and waist and no wrinkles and graceful demeanour and submissive and less sexual experience than him and natural looking
Thats not true at all. One survey found that women thought 80% of men were below average in looks while for men it was a perfect bell curve i. e. on average women were average. Men have far lower standards then women, women won't date a guy who is short (in fact I do believe you yourself have admited to that here), or who isn't wealthy etc. Why do women always try to deny what is blatantly obviously true? Seems like a waste of every one's time.
No their not. Why would you lie when we already established that this isn't the case? Study after study shows that women are in fact shallow, more so then men. That he has to be attractive, he has to be tall, he has to make good money, he has to have status etc. We all know this so I don't know who you think your trying to trick by lying about it. Again, you yourself have already on this site admited to rejecting a man because of his height, why would you pretend your something that your not? I mean I don't have any real issue with it, I think its stupid but its your life, but I do have issue with you intentionally lying about something as if every man is just to stupid to catch on that women's actions don't match women's words. Plus again, multiple studies have shown this to be the case, so even science is showing that what your saying isn't true. If personality mattered women wouldn't demand he make so much more money then her and be taller. So again, your intentionally stating something you know to be untrue after we already established that every one knows its not true, why do that?
@hellionthesagereborn I’ve liked 3 short guys before - I rejected the short guy cause he did not have a brain or personality desirable enough to make up for his short height
