I can understand the point of view of the girl being cat called. Just last night I was walking with a girl I had just met at a tavern and I had a few guys yell to us "hey what's a hot girl like you staying with a ugly guy like him?" And shit like that. This isn't the only time I've had this happen. Not once has the girl who accompanied me ever taken lightly to these "compliments."
My previous girlfriend said that the most common catcallers are homeless guys or, and drunk guys who are trying to impress their douchy friends.
I got catcalled a little while ago. It felt awkward! That is always how I feel when a totally random stranger makes a remark about my appearance. I said thank you with a straight face and walked on without even looking at him. That way he couldn't make any remarks about me being rude. It seemed to work because he stopped following me immediately. He just didn't have anything to go off of when I said thank you. lol There is nothing attractive about catcalling. It is always awkward and sometimes scary.
I never even heard of this "catcalling" thing until I reached the U. S. It still mystifies me why people catcall. The guys most likely knows nothing of the woman. He probably has has no business with her. He even skips the regimen of pleasantries mandatory for politeness, all together. What the Hell? Is that supposed to yield something to his favor?
I'm certainly one to believe that it's not just the compliment you give a girl, but the way you compliment that puts forth your true message and feelings. Their way of communicating isn't something that's welcome.
There are better ways to compliment a woman than just remarking about her physical features make your dicks hard.
Sweetie and good looking sound good to me, I would be so happy if that would be catcalling.
Here in Mexico is awful, they don't call you beautiful or pretty, I've heard many disgusting things. Things like "that ass" in very creepy ways... In 2 times I've been touched by guys while walking in the streets, the worst part is that I was like 11 and I was too shy to do something. Now it's different, I know I could kick someone's ass now.
Even though catcalling is annoying and stupid I dont consider it a crime. because- 1. Freedom of speech 2. Road is a public property where everybody should be free to talk (no matter how annoying it is)
But I do discourage catcalling. because nobody ever got laid just by shouting at random people on the street
well as a woman i really dont care that much. I'm quite indifferent to it actually. the reason for that is because it doesn't mean I'm anything special. just another woman on the street.
i understand both sides of this though, i really do. i understand that girls dont wanna be addressed the way a dog would be. but u know, if u really wanna indicate that u dont like it, ignore them. makes them look like idiots. giving them any sort of attention only satisfies them.
We can control if and what compliment we give you, but we can't control your reaction to it. It might be that the person lacks class and gives you a compliment that sounds shitty, but it's still a compliment. It sure is better than being spat on. It's ok to not like it, but I am sure you can learn to live with the occasional uncomfort of living in the same world as men just as we have to live with the occasional uncomfort of living with women.
Wow, sorry but you have a serious self image issue. I used to have one also. A therapist can help you. If you let someone you don't know affect you that much, there are other issues going on.
"How people expected victims of catcalling to feel..."
Based on what? How many surveys have there been with cat-callers? Don't you think it's a bit stupid to assume that cat callers are unable to discern the consequences of their actions? Perhaps they just don't care that much that it doesn't please you. Have you ever considered that obvious option? Probably not.
I think it's about time that women took responsibility for their sexuality, stopped presenting themselves like sex objects in public and then getting confused when men treat them as such.
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You're saying that women present themselves like sex objects, but then are confused when guys treat then like that. I didn't know that wearing khakis and sweatshirt (my school uniform) presented me as a sex object.
Much of the time it's that way. It's just animal nature too. Lions don't eat antelope to piss them off, they do it because they've evolved to do it. Similarly, men evolved to get a bit excited and lusty when they see a female they like. They don't do it to annoy or compliment necessarily, it's just an expression of their feelings.
one example of some nut doing something doesn't mean you should not be a thoughtful person and approach a person rather than toss out thoughtless, and disrespectful comments. every human should be treated like a human and objectifying a girl (or guy) is not respectful
I've been called beautiful which may seem harmless, but I really don't want to be approached with “Hello. I want you to know that the very first thing I noticed about you and care about most is your appearance.” Even if it is true, most people want to think they're being evaluated about deeper things.
"Hello ! I want you to know that it's the first time ever that I see you, but I think you have a really big heart and are generous and intelligent. I particularly appreciate your views on politics and the way you would have managed the greek crisis and Syria's exodus. I can't wait to know you better to know if you look beautiful" lol It's not necessarily that they care more about your appearance, it's that it's the only thing they know of you.
I've always wondered what would happen if a woman was actually turned on by this and turned right around and asked the guy out. It would be a like a dog chasing a car... and catching it! What would the dog do with the car? What would the guy do with the girl? I don't even think they'd know what to do if that happened.
By the way, if asking someone of the opposite gender to smile is catcalling, then I've been catcalled. But I don't consider myself having been catcalled.
As a guy who has been cat called on several occasions and has even been sexually assaulted by women grabbing my ass and such it is my opinion that cat calling is harmless and even a bit funny sometimes.
I don't like being assaulted and you should never do that to someone but cat calling is harmless fun at best and mildly annoying at worst.
If I wrote a story that said "Kaley had perky breasts and slender legs that were good for staring at", in the narration, that would be a good thing for Kaley. So why is it a problem when those facts are stated through words?
A woman having perky breasts and slender legs = good Telling a woman she has perky breasts and slender legs = bad?
That doesn't make any sense.
Objectification is a myth. Being valued for sex OR your appearance is a good thing. Women use their appearance to manipulate men every day.
Whether women's only conceivable merit is to provide sexual services, is a whole different topic to catcalling or receiving compliments, but if it makes you feel like a sex object, that is your problem. It's not my fault you feel objectified like a sex object. You should evaluate the way you interpret compliments when men point out good attributes about yourself.
@Hannah591 I find it very ironic that women don't want men to tell them they want to have sex with them, yet women don't initiate with men and it's the man's burden to approach the woman. If catcalling is so bad, women should start approaching men instead of waiting for them to approach.
Do some guys do it to feel powerful? A girl walks by and ignores you, you have no power over them... but if you cat call them and make them feel aware and uncomfortable of you, you kinda get an edge on them. It's like guys who like to send random dick pics to girls
Another girl who doesn't understand guys, telling guys what guys are thinking when they do guy shit. But I do sympathize, to some extent. Going out in public is bad enough, having strangers shout out comments at you doesn't make it any easier. Guys should be more considerate than that, it's true. Girls should also be aware that 99% of the time, it means nothing.
I see nothing wrong with a little whistle or double whistle to be honest, though I'd never say anything unappropriated, and I've been wolf whistled at plenty of time it never bothered me all that much.
What's wrong with saying hey good morning, you doing ok today? Sounds plain and simple as it is.. how could that be misconstrued as something bad, I mean give me a break. Turn the sensitivity switch down a few notches, not all of us are playa playas
That's not catcalling. Although some women will overreact to a simple "good morning", most women won't. Just never make a sexual remark to a stranger, which is considered catcalling.
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I can understand the point of view of the girl being cat called. Just last night I was walking with a girl I had just met at a tavern and I had a few guys yell to us "hey what's a hot girl like you staying with a ugly guy like him?" And shit like that. This isn't the only time I've had this happen. Not once has the girl who accompanied me ever taken lightly to these "compliments."
My previous girlfriend said that the most common catcallers are homeless guys or, and drunk guys who are trying to impress their douchy friends.
I got catcalled a little while ago. It felt awkward! That is always how I feel when a totally random stranger makes a remark about my appearance. I said thank you with a straight face and walked on without even looking at him. That way he couldn't make any remarks about me being rude. It seemed to work because he stopped following me immediately. He just didn't have anything to go off of when I said thank you. lol
There is nothing attractive about catcalling. It is always awkward and sometimes scary.
Fascinating...
I never even heard of this "catcalling" thing until I reached the U. S. It still mystifies me why people catcall. The guys most likely knows nothing of the woman. He probably has has no business with her. He even skips the regimen of pleasantries mandatory for politeness, all together. What the Hell? Is that supposed to yield something to his favor?
This was an interesting take.
I'm certainly one to believe that it's not just the compliment you give a girl, but the way you compliment that puts forth your true message and feelings. Their way of communicating isn't something that's welcome.
There are better ways to compliment a woman than just remarking about her physical features make your dicks hard.
Sweetie and good looking sound good to me, I would be so happy if that would be catcalling.
Here in Mexico is awful, they don't call you beautiful or pretty, I've heard many disgusting things. Things like "that ass" in very creepy ways... In 2 times I've been touched by guys while walking in the streets, the worst part is that I was like 11 and I was too shy to do something. Now it's different, I know I could kick someone's ass now.
Even though catcalling is annoying and stupid I dont consider it a crime. because-
1. Freedom of speech
2. Road is a public property where everybody should be free to talk (no matter how annoying it is)
But I do discourage catcalling. because nobody ever got laid just by shouting at random people on the street
well as a woman i really dont care that much. I'm quite indifferent to it actually. the reason for that is because it doesn't mean I'm anything special. just another woman on the street.
i understand both sides of this though, i really do. i understand that girls dont wanna be addressed the way a dog would be. but u know, if u really wanna indicate that u dont like it, ignore them. makes them look like idiots. giving them any sort of attention only satisfies them.
We can control if and what compliment we give you, but we can't control your reaction to it. It might be that the person lacks class and gives you a compliment that sounds shitty, but it's still a compliment. It sure is better than being spat on. It's ok to not like it, but I am sure you can learn to live with the occasional uncomfort of living in the same world as men just as we have to live with the occasional uncomfort of living with women.
Wow, sorry but you have a serious self image issue. I used to have one also. A therapist can help you. If you let someone you don't know affect you that much, there are other issues going on.
"How people expected victims of catcalling to feel..."
Based on what? How many surveys have there been with cat-callers?
Don't you think it's a bit stupid to assume that cat callers are unable to discern the consequences of their actions?
Perhaps they just don't care that much that it doesn't please you. Have you ever considered that obvious option? Probably not.
I think it's about time that women took responsibility for their sexuality, stopped presenting themselves like sex objects in public and then getting confused when men treat them as such.
You're saying that women present themselves like sex objects, but then are confused when guys treat then like that. I didn't know that wearing khakis and sweatshirt (my school uniform) presented me as a sex object.
Much of the time it's that way.
It's just animal nature too. Lions don't eat antelope to piss them off, they do it because they've evolved to do it. Similarly, men evolved to get a bit excited and lusty when they see a female they like. They don't do it to annoy or compliment necessarily, it's just an expression of their feelings.
a compliment would be for him to approach and say, "wow you are incredibly attractive and i'd love to get your number and get to know you"
I'm not so certain even that's a good idea with total strangers...
www.girlsaskguys.com/.../a22507-chivalry-is-dead-women-killed-it-the-rejection-experiment
one example of some nut doing something doesn't mean you should not be a thoughtful person and approach a person rather than toss out thoughtless, and disrespectful comments. every human should be treated like a human and objectifying a girl (or guy) is not respectful
I've been called beautiful which may seem harmless, but I really don't want to be approached with “Hello. I want you to know that the very first thing I noticed about you and care about most is your appearance.” Even if it is true, most people want to think they're being evaluated about deeper things.
"Hello ! I want you to know that it's the first time ever that I see you, but I think you have a really big heart and are generous and intelligent. I particularly appreciate your views on politics and the way you would have managed the greek crisis and Syria's exodus. I can't wait to know you better to know if you look beautiful"
lol
It's not necessarily that they care more about your appearance, it's that it's the only thing they know of you.
I've always wondered what would happen if a woman was actually turned on by this and turned right around and asked the guy out. It would be a like a dog chasing a car... and catching it! What would the dog do with the car? What would the guy do with the girl? I don't even think they'd know what to do if that happened.
By the way, if asking someone of the opposite gender to smile is catcalling, then I've been catcalled. But I don't consider myself having been catcalled.
As a guy who has been cat called on several occasions and has even been sexually assaulted by women grabbing my ass and such it is my opinion that cat calling is harmless and even a bit funny sometimes.
I don't like being assaulted and you should never do that to someone but cat calling is harmless fun at best and mildly annoying at worst.
Catcalling is a compliment. Telling someone they're attractive and that you want to have sex with them are positive things, not bad things.
Women are just disgusted by how much men want sex. That's why feminists want to ban prostitution and compliments. Feminists hate male desire.
It's not a compliment to objectify us and make us feel like our only conceivable merit is our ability to provide our sexual services.
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If I wrote a story that said "Kaley had perky breasts and slender legs that were good for staring at", in the narration, that would be a good thing for Kaley. So why is it a problem when those facts are stated through words?
A woman having perky breasts and slender legs = good
Telling a woman she has perky breasts and slender legs = bad?
That doesn't make any sense.
Objectification is a myth. Being valued for sex OR your appearance is a good thing. Women use their appearance to manipulate men every day.
Whether women's only conceivable merit is to provide sexual services, is a whole different topic to catcalling or receiving compliments, but if it makes you feel like a sex object, that is your problem. It's not my fault you feel objectified like a sex object. You should evaluate the way you interpret compliments when men point out good attributes about yourself.
We're not here for men to tell us they want to have sex with us. We don't care. Keep it to yourself unless she's your girlfriend.
@Hannah591 I find it very ironic that women don't want men to tell them they want to have sex with them, yet women don't initiate with men and it's the man's burden to approach the woman. If catcalling is so bad, women should start approaching men instead of waiting for them to approach.
I do approach men, thanks.
Agreed.
Do some guys do it to feel powerful? A girl walks by and ignores you, you have no power over them... but if you cat call them and make them feel aware and uncomfortable of you, you kinda get an edge on them. It's like guys who like to send random dick pics to girls
Quick question.
Do you actually think the guys who are classless enough to catcall read articles or care about online bloggers saying it makes them feel bad?
Another girl who doesn't understand guys, telling guys what guys are thinking when they do guy shit. But I do sympathize, to some extent. Going out in public is bad enough, having strangers shout out comments at you doesn't make it any easier. Guys should be more considerate than that, it's true. Girls should also be aware that 99% of the time, it means nothing.
I see nothing wrong with a little whistle or double whistle to be honest, though I'd never say anything unappropriated, and I've been wolf whistled at plenty of time it never bothered me all that much.
We're not dogs. If you want to show your liking, approach her with a smile and say "you look nice today". That's a compliment.
@Hannah591 why are so many men getting downvoted to the oblivion by women in this myTake?
@Hannah591 and on the other hand, women aren't getting any downvotes from men...
That's interesting.
@R3d_Anonymous It's the Feminist/SJW harpies, cat calling is the latest first world problem that is "oppressing" women.
What's wrong with saying hey good morning, you doing ok today? Sounds plain and simple as it is.. how could that be misconstrued as something bad, I mean give me a break. Turn the sensitivity switch down a few notches, not all of us are playa playas
That's not catcalling. Although some women will overreact to a simple "good morning", most women won't. Just never make a sexual remark to a stranger, which is considered catcalling.