Persistence: attractive, creepy, or it depends?

[SociableGuy]

Girls: what makes persistence attractive to you and when does it get annoying/creepy?
Guys: when has persistence worked for you and when has it failed?

I feel that there are times when being persistent and showing someone you are interested is attractive since to varying degrees people like being shown others find them attractive, and similarly to varying degrees like being pursued in a positive way right?

Also since the two individuals will likely have their own very different lives, there is necessity I would think to have persistence in order to create opportunities for the two people to get to know each other better, otherwise they'll just see each other once and may never bump into each other again, despite there being mutual interest.

Of course the challenge is reading whether the other person is actually enjoying the persistence, playing hard to get or just flat out getting annoyed by it. For example, some people get nervous around those they are interested in and in that moment end up acting in a rejecting way without intending to. Or sometimes you and the other person find yourselves in an awkward situation via random circumstances (refer to any rom com for an example) which makes approaching this person a second time slightly awkward too and second guess if you're just going to make them remember the awkwardness from before.

[TurboKid]

My wife is a prime example of persistence actually working. She rejected me two times before agreeing on a date.

With that said, there is a huge disclaimer. We were flirty from the first time we met. We were close friends and hung out a lot but we were always kind of touchy-feely-flirty.

The reason my wife rejected me the first two times is that I had a reputation as a "playboy" among our mutual friend group. She thought I wasn't ever the type to commit to a woman, and she was wrong about it (I proved her wrong when we married).

The third time I asked her out also wasn't out of the blue. We were dancing and she kissed me on the lips twice (just pecs). Then I kissed her back and then I asked her out. It wasn't unprompted. I know the difference between pushing my luck and not taking a hint vs. being persistent.

[TurboKid]

* just pecks on the lips

[TurboKid]

Emphasis on "playboy" and not "player". I have dated some of my wife's closest friends (we share most of the same friends) but they didn't have anything bad to say about me. I never lied or anything to sleep with a girl. I just developed notoriety for always having dates among people we mutually knew and always having a new girlfriend. But I always dreamed of finding someone with whom I could get along perfectly and with whom I could live the rest of my life... I just had to date around a whole lot to find it.

[TurboKid]

You know, I was like Goldilocks when it came to picking wives. But I was actually looking for a wife.

[exitseven]

If the guy is good looking it is attractive. If he is not then it is creepy.

[SociableGuy]

Any particular experience you'd like to share?

[exitseven]

Maybe, I have been persistent at times and it never changed the outcome.

[exitseven]

Thanks for the MHO

[Siren777]

More like consistent instead of persistent. If he keeps his word and treats you well. That's a catch. If is persistent when you've told him copious times that you're not interested then that would be creepy.

[Blackcupcake]

If I clearly say no and he keeps being persistent, it’s annoying af.

[Anonymous]

It depends. If he is someone im interested in and he is also interested then thats so attractive. But if i already said NO or stay away and he keep being insistent thats creepy af

[SociableGuy]

How about if the girl shows she is not interested but the two don't really know each other yet, any tips for a guy on how to show her more of who he is (and of course possibly change her mind) in a way that isn't annoying/creepy? Eg. just friendly.

[Opinion Owner]

She should be interested if she is not there's almost nothing u can do. Mostly girls are moved by vibes. After 5 mins talking we already know if there could be something. If you two dont vibe she won't give u a chance to know her more. If she is interested she will show it.

[Anonymous]

If I'm into him, it's attractive. If it's someone I'm trying to friendzone then it's tolerable. If it's a complete stranger, definitely creepy. You have to share somethings to be attracted to them.

With the guy I like, I set him free and decided not to pursue any further. 'Cause it's the traditional way. If he's interested, he'd come himself.

[SociableGuy]

If the two are strangers to begin with, any suggestions on how to approach sharing things to get to know each other better without becoming creepy/annoying? Since it can be quite challenging creating the opportunity to see a person again who isn't actually a friend.

[Opinion Owner]

I personally don't give chances to someone who's not a friend. Try to approach her friends and befriend her first.