Gender Wars: Why Men Are Threatened by Smart, Funny Women

[pavlove]

The newest season of South Park had a lot of bleh segments but one thing I enjoyed was the shift to gender wars which, in many respects, have become more at the forefront than race wars, and which are definitely at work here on the site. Of course the main point of the show is to always poke fun at things but it does raise an interesting question...have been historically been opposed to the idea of women being smart and funny as well?

"Wendy, say something funny. Just do woman’s comedy stuff. You know, talk about how fat you are and how you want to have sex with guys, and say ‘my vagina’ a lot" -Eric Cartman on South Park

"Girls Rule. Women Are Funny. Get Over It." - Monohla Dargis New York Times Review of Ghostbusters

So while Eric seems like he's making fun of amy schumer and the ghostbusters review (he's actually started to believe this is true) he's bringing up two seemingly separate things and showing how they're actually connected.

A lot of men are emotionally afraid of women.

Men have historically used physical violence to get their way and control people, but women have more often used to emotional violence to get their way. For every story of a physically abusive father who beat his children with his shoe, there's an even more uncomfortable story of a mother who absolutely traumatized her children and gave them all sorts of issues that they're still being haunted by as adults. It makes sense that it worked out this way giving how most societies used to function, but the question still remains what does this have to do with being smart or funny?

Observe and consider many of the "fights" that happen on GaG. A huge majority of them are between males and females rather males and males or females and females would you agree? Now consider who more often loses their **** the guy or the girl? The guy usually does on here. This is because he is more afraid.

He is afraid because he isn't able to distinguish the personal from the catty--it all feels like pain to him. He could never take the absolutely horrific things that girls learn to call each other through development. He learned to answer problems with his fists not his heart. His heart then is about as fragile as your typical girls boxing stance. Yet, a lot of the things she's saying to him she doesn't believe she just knows they'll sting. She's surmised his weak points and the only question is how much does she want it to hurt and how much mercy she'll have for the poor bastard.

Intelligence and humor then are only seen from the painful side as it relates to a girl. If a woman likes him, she acts tame and demure. If she is trying to hurt him it is a combination of a very persuasive argument as to why he sucks or a very catty attack on him through humorous insults and comparisons. When he's sitting on the couch with his girlfriend then and she tries to make fun of him just for a laugh, he then overreacts. If they're talking about politics and she says "that doesn't make any sense because x,y,z. You're dumb." he overreacts.

He doesn't know how to react positively to a woman's intelligence or humor because he doesn't know how to support her. He is traumatized essentially from the cattiness of women as a poor unfortunate male who just wasn't ready for that level of mean girlness. How can something so small and pretty cause so much pain to someone as big as him?!

So, yes, women are smart and funny. Unfortuantly a lot of us have to experience the frightening side of this especially if we're aholes ourselves who fancy messing with girls for the sport of it and general look at women in general as a recreational activity to be picked up played around with roughly when life gets a little dull and then put back on the shelf when done.

[alphadoggystyle]

sorry but your explanation and conclusion is completely wrong. The reason men "lose their shit" more often is because there is more anger not for the reason you described but for the very reason that men in real life are not allowed to express their concerns or complain at all, society lies to us and tells us that women are oppressed so women already have an outlet for all of their whining. The anonymous internet is the only place where men can speak about controversial facts without facing social exclusion or work repercussions etc, due to the norms that have been put in place by our feminist leftist controlled society. Men are more aggressive to begin with but that is not because of fear, men dont fear women at all, women however tend to avoid these discussions to a greater degree because they are less confrontational and emotional by nature so they avoid anything that makes them feel bad. Finally the facts are almost always on the side of the male argument here so women almost always lose the debates which is another reason why they tend to quiet down whenever another one of their feminist beliefs get refuted.

[pavlove]

I don't know if they lose though. To me, the person who stays less composed loses the argument regardless of facts from the fact that someone was able "to get a rise out of them" while themselves remaining calm.

[alphadoggystyle]

They do in fact lose. And no, it doesn't matter what you think, facts are facts and it doesn't matter how composed/calm the person stating the facts are, that doesn't change anything. And the facts are almost always on the side of the males/anti-feminists whenever they argue with the opposition here on this site.
its not like women remain calm just because they eventually stop responding, i bet some of them get emotional and cry or become so angry that they have to go off the computer, women can't handle confrontation like men can, even when they are angry. And some people like me try to be extra provocative when i state facts just to trigger the idiots i argue with even more, so im calm even when i sometimes use strong language on this site.

[LindsayRB91rds]

So your premise is that if a woman is perceived as smart and funny, she'd like that so she can belittle men? It It's a weapon to knock you down?

What an odd point of view. I'm pretty confident that I'm smart and at least a little funny. I like to make my friends laugh. No one who knows me finds me threatening. You need to meet some different women.

[pavlove]

That read really rude and arrogant

[LindsayRB91rds]

It wasn't meant as a personal attack, merely my reaction to statements like "Intelligence and humor then are only seen from the painful side as it relates to a girl. "

You represented a very jaded view of relationships and have clearly been hurt by women who apparently tried to make you feel bad. How else can "She's surmised his weak points and the only question is how much does she want it to hurt and how much mercy she'll have for the poor bastard." be interpreted?

You're probably a nice guy and you just seem to be meeting mean women. We're not all like that.

[Botchie]

@LindsayRB91rds You're fine. He's just a bit salty. Everything you said in your original post and in your comment are perfectly fine.

[LindsayRB91rds]

Thank you @Botchie. I thought that too and I appreciate your saying it.

[Anonymous]

The single factor that makes relationships prosper mutuality based on different but compatible roles.
All relationships work best when two parties have something different to share for their mutual benefit. For example, humans and horses have enjoyed a close relationship together throughout history (unlike, say, humans and bears). The relationship works because in exchange for food, protection, and care that humans provide, the horses offer themselves as transportation.
The relationship between men and women was also mutually beneficial for the entirety of human existence with men offering their services in exchange for having the women bear their children. But now, with the advent of modern society and its conditions, things have changed drastically.
1. “Equality” for women is the most abominable lie to have ever perpetuated on mankind.
Men have always provided for women. Men hunted for food, labored to build everything, and fought battles to defend their tribe. To say that men oppressed women throughout history is an insult to all those who sacrificed themselves in the factories, the coal mines, and the trenches. If women didn’t have certain rights that feminists like to cherry-pick, it’s because women weren’t drafted to fight wars. In exchange for their toil, the only thing men asked of women was to be supportive in their roles as wives and mothers.
But fast-forward to today, now that women have “achieved” social and political “equality” and even various advantages just for being born a female, many women today no longer feel that it’s necessary to exchange values with men for mutuality. It’s like when humans developed automobiles and didn’t need horses anymore. The difference is, humans and horses don’t need to be together; men and women do.
However, men’s sexual desire—which is greater than that of females—is still alive and kicking. So what we have today is a situation where women have gotten their social equality while sexual inequality persists for men (which is why many men choose to give up sex entirely to level the playing field). This is what happens when you standardize human beings into economic units.

[Opinion Owner]

2. Women choosing education and careers over marriage and family. To maintain their advantage over men, women today are dedicating themselves to their education and career. Western women, in particular, have been so thoroughly sold on the idea of status and consumerist orgy that they are no longer interested in relationships. More and more women today are delaying marriage (if not outright rejecting it). And when they do get married, they are using it as a means to trap men into donating their sperm and cash, only to bail out when they want to.
3. Slut culture. The advent of contraception and the decimation of whatever feminine decency that was left has turned the vast majority of young Western women into drunken sluts. The increasing number of sluts is diminishing the availability of quality women that men want to start a family with and has social implications for the society as a whole.

[Opinion Owner]

4. The Goverment supplanting men in women's lives. The only way women were able to “liberate” themselves from their supposed oppressors was by latching themselves on to a new alpha provider: the government. As said before, men form relationships with women by exchanging values, with his strength to provide and protect being his greatest asset. But now, the government (along with corporations and education system) fulfills those roles that men previously occupied. And not only that, but the government is deeply involved in the affairs of marriage, sending professional white-knights to extort and arrest men who’ve been used up and thrown away by women.
It also doesn’t help that the government is increasingly monopolizing violence, one of the most important value that a man possesses. And that leads to my next point.

[Opinion Owner]

5. Too many men and too few wars. The recurring theme across patriarchal societies of the past and present are violence and warfare. And the most commonly associated traits of masculinity are also traits of warriors such as strength, bravery, aggression, discipline, and so on. It’s quite simple: the more violent the environment is, the more masculine men become. And the more conflicts and wars there are, the more the women depend on men—thus keeping the collective value of male population high.
It’s no coincidence that Western societies have started to feminize as they endured decades of relative peace since the end of WWII. The lack of warfare also means that there are now more young men per woman (practically 1 to 1) than there normally would have been under a warring society. Excess of men—who are also emasculated and feminized—means that the collective value of average men has dropped to a historical low, upsetti

[Opinion Owner]

6. The Decimation of western women. Many Western women have been corrupted by our toxic materialist society. They are fatter, uglier, more narcissistic, more entitled, hedonistic, superficial, less faithful, and seem to think that having bitch attitude makes them hip. Women can afford to stoop low because their sex drive isn’t the same as men’s, while they couldn’t care less for love and companionship when they’re too busy with their travels and careers.
And because of all the thirsty men, women’s collective sexual market value hardly suffers while the value of those who are merely average becomes inflated beyond their real value. You only need to check out the gross discrepancies between the sexes in dating sites and apps to see how bad things are.

[Opinion Owner]

7. Anti Male Culture. Men are all rapists waiting to be hatched out of their facade, men merely uttering a word to a woman is a harassment, men are always “mansplaining” to women, men are insecure cry-babies, men open their legs too much when they sit, men and their toxic masculinity need to be controlled, men have to do more for women, men are dominating in tech fields because of sexism, men shouldn’t say this, men shouldn’t do that, etc, etc… And of course, if men push back, they’re “misogynists.”
And we’re we still wondering why relationships are getting harder to form these days?
8. Lack of shared values
As social beings, we humans need more than economic incentives and passions to form a relationship for a family to prosper. There must be shared values.
With traditional family values under constant attack from all directions, the bonding between males and females have been reduced to mere hook-ups and economic unions.

[Opinion Owner]

... To make matters worse, many from both sides are resorting to predatory behaviors to exploit one another for either money (for women) or sex (for men), augmenting the distrust between the two sexes. Others, who either don’t want to play games or have become overtly hostile to the opposite sex, have given up on relationships entirely. This is the end result of atomization and extreme individualism under a system that destroys all values for the sake of economic advancement.
Conclusion. The destruction of sex relationship is having a negative effect on society as a whole and is transforming the demographic landscape of many Western nations. Unlike what the aesthetically-challenged feminists and the man-children crying their own way believe, men and women are not adversaries. You don’t have to be a traditionalist to see that the sex relations have gone awry due to the development of modern society and its destructive cultures.

[Opinion Owner]

Many Western men have already checked out or gone out to find traditional women elsewhere. But that is merely adapting to the situation; it doesn’t solve the problem at a societal level. The continuing antagonism of the sexes will eventually spread around the world. Unless the current course is somehow reversed, we can only wait and see how far the damage will run its course.

[pavlove]

what you ignore, though, is that women never really had a choice in "femininity" we may like it over the new female-masculine thats risen in the culture but they should have choice

[hellionthesagereborn]

This is idiotic. Women first and foremost have never been abused, systemically and rarely ancedotally. No one approves of harming women, thats why in all mediums of story telling the way to determine if the person is bad is to see how they treat women, if they harm or take advantage of women then they are evil and bad if they do not they are good and honorable and this holds true for stories today all the way back to as far as we can find them. All evidence, statistical and historical and legal and even ancedotal shows that the notion of women being oppressed or mistreated is idiotically stupid to the extreme. Ironically the fact that its claimed all the time is evidence that it doesn't exist because otherwise no one would care. As for being afraid of women, again your wrong. Men do not universally fear women, thats idiocy, thats something someone who panders to women would say. Men want an attractive woman, they want a smart woman they want a woman they are attracted to. Claiming what you are is like claiming all women are sexist and hate men because they won't date fat ugly and poor men, its idiotic.

[ninjast4r]

Men don't find smart, funny women threatening. Little boys do.

But, that said, many female comedians are awful. Amy Schumer a female Dane Cook. She's insanely popular, but she doesn't really push the envelope comedically. I'm a comedy fan, and I mostly follow the New York Comedy Cellar/Tough Crowd comedians, which is often hilariously mean-spiritied insult comedy by truly funny people, plenty of which were female, so I recognize hack comedy from a mile away. Most female comedians do standard female material, like most black comedians do standard black comedy, Asians do Asian comedy, etc. Another thing is that female comedians politicize everything. Amy Schumer, Lena Dunham, and Janeane Garofalo are painfully unfunny off-stage and always have to push an agenda. In fact I can't think of one big-name female comic that didn't stump for Hillary during the election.

[kaylaS91]

It sounds like you've confused 'men' with 'socially inept little bitches'.
https://i.imgur.com/IyENtv5.gif

[pavlove]

how are you writing on this? i thought we blocked each other

[LiveFreeorDieHard]

Seems like every time a women says shit like that they always think average or decent men as pussies and the real tough guys who beat the shot out of them as the real men. Explain that to me.

[cth96190]

I am not threatened by any woman.
I am not even afraid any longer that one of them might break my heart again.
Women can do whatever they want, so long as they do not want me to pay for it and they do not bother me.
Women can be as clever and funny as they want. I do not care.
That queer red Jew Gloria Steinem said that a woman needed a man in the way that a fish needed a bicycle. Okay. Bugger off, do what you want, leave me alone.

[WalterRadio]

Threatened? Hardly. I seek out smart, funny women. I want to be with women for whom I do not have to dumb down a conversation and who will say something that makes me think, and with which we can develop an idea together. I want women who make me laugh. Add sweet, sexy, and slim, and we have a winner.

[RandomBritishGuy94]

The fact you're calling this a gender war makes you part of the problem. It's really not, and nor should it become one.

If you don't want to deal with relationships, fine, but you can't avoid the other sex. They are 50% of the world.

[DVanx]

no men are not threatened at all by smart, funny women. in fact men have nothing against smart, funny women. smart, funny women are great!

however most men dislike stupid, obnoxious feminists. and stupid obnoxious feminists tend to view other stupid obnoxious feminists as "smart and funny". so I can see how that might be a source of confusion for some...

[Nathan7]

Nice response, it has underlying truth. 👌🏼

[bedroomdweller]

Only that most men aren't really "threatened" by smart and funny women. Last time I check, other than being physically attractive, any intelligent guy WANTS girls with both sense of humor and brains, which many lack unfortunately.

[bedroomdweller]

checked*

[cinderelli]

ok you think of these crazy ideas.. make up really crap points.. and make them sound like this is all true.. and it applies to most men.. I don't know if this does happen to you.. but I for a fact know that this doesn't happen to all or most men..

[AbleLearner]

As far as I can tell, reality is the other way around.

I want a smart, funny woman, and I find women are terrified of an intelligent man.

I have several dice with more than 6 sides, and I think Chaucer was a better writer than Shakespeare.

[Blitzkrieger]

The average man is not trained to manage verbal attacks, a politician is yeah but an average man is not.

I got it all figured out, i dont argue with women anymore. Is it sexist? yeah. Does it save me from trouble? Hell yeah. Is it worth it? Absolutely.

I might argue with some internet girls yeah but not with real women. I just shut up and do my own thing.

[pavlove]

i try not to fall into it either but i have to admit they sometimes will get a rise out of me. I will openly admit i tend not to enjoy friendships with women. I have a hard time respecting them on an individual level although i enjoy them as a whole.

[Blitzkrieger]

I like to be friends with women too but i dont want to argue with any of them.

[TheOldMan59]

When a woman wants to argue with you it means she likes you. She wants to know if you are a real man or a spineless jellyfish. Don't be too keen to give women what they want. I mean, give them what they want, but make them fight for it.

[Blitzkrieger]

@TheOldMan59 not arguing does nimot mean i give them what they want arguing is just a waste of time.

[grashopper]

I don't really like "funny" women. Because most of them got a really weird side to them and aren't really funny. They may think they are funny because all the guys around her suck up to her by laughing at her stupid jokes.

Other than that, I'm quite attracted to smart women. In fact I'm attracted to smart people in general.

Gender doesn't matter here.

[Browneye57]

Hmmm... such a load of crap. Afraid of women? Really? What, I bet you jump when you see your shadow, eh?

The traits you speak of are what can make them tolerable. Otherwise you get a snowflake bitch.

[Anonymous]

This article is horribly written:
• irrelevant anecdotal evidence
• judges all males based on the actions of a few
• faulty reasoning

I'm under the suspicion that the reason why the author wrote this is because it secretly applies to themself.

[Phoenix98]

Not at all I want a woman to be smart and funny someone needs to get my humor and I like having intellectual conversations.

[Goodheartforsomeone]

This is actually funny it would seem that this person only targets. stupid men.
If a woman isn't smart and doesn't have at least a decent sense of humor I would not date her. Humor and intelligence is sexy and fun and appealing,
Sounds like some woman thinks she is more than she is.

[Atlas67890-]

1. We aren't.
2. If those women existed we'd be dating them/ they're already married by age 22.

Any more mass media induced perceptions of the world you need clarified by real human beings?

[loneman]

Sometimes I feel insecure when a Woman is smarter than me. But at the same time I also feel just as bad when I'm smarter than the Woman. I prefer to be equal too Her intelligence. That way we aren't too tempted into talking down to each other.

[Cryostatic]

Ah yes, masculinity. Such a fragile thing, able to be shattered irreparably by a few simple words from a female. Much power. Such destroy.