To emphasize my last point, my former hairdresser married an ex con and had two babies with him. Before the younger one was even two years old, he decided he was tired of all the responsibility, left her and skipped town. The police still can't find him to make him pay child support.
Personally i dislike both bad boys and nice guys. First are rude and mean and second are sad ànd boring. I like those who treat me well, have a real sense of adventure and have good genes.
because crazy women like you are the breeding ground for players who trouble women like us. u are the reason misogynists exist. i dont get how one can perverse light into darkness and darkness into light.
@levantine99 hahaha first of all, I'm as far from crazy as you can get. Secondly, I don't like players. Third you're wrong. Fourth I don't care why misogynists exist.
self awareness isn't to be expected to someone who dislikes good men. except if you mean completely other things than the general population deems as good with common sense.
@levantine99 I don't dislike good men. I dislike men who are afraid to take some risks. There are good men who are not afraid of risks. There are also bad men who beyond their violence are weak and silly
Lol why does it matter when you wrote it? But yes I get what you mean. Adventurous and balanced is very attractive. Everyone should be like this. It's the human way.
just by not caring misogynists exist is enough for you to be considered dangerous. u are the typical type of person who is like "if my yard is well, all the neighbors' yards can burn".
it was a figure of speech. a metaphorical example, u can't be serious telling me what you'd do at an actual accident. as for misogyny those who dont care about a problem, as you personally stated, are already a part of it.
lol girl i didn't imply causation. i implied responsibility due to inaction. inaction equals negative actions. also your initial statement gave the picture of a bitch that tortures nice guys. maybe i misunderstood you and i apologise if that was the case.
@levantine99 well I have never tortured anyone or acted bitchily towards anyone who didn't deserve it. So you are wrong about me being someone who tortures nice guys. Also in case of misogyny, I let the small things slide.
I like a guy with ambition, someone who knows what they want and gets it. Being prepared for your future is everything, I want someone who wants to be financially stable and responsible but also knows the right times to have fun.
yeah its important if you want to estabish a family. but for a mature person its like number 5+ in their priority list. a financial shark and alpha dude, thats violent, cheats on you, is secretive, is shallow, and whatever else, is still unbareable.
@levantine99 well thankfully I'm in a pretty honest relationship as it is right now and I haven't seen any red flags just yet. Hoping it stays that way.
yeah generalisations and stereotypes could not be avoided but in general you are right. toxic ideals of masculinity are perpetuated in the media, by pop idols, and by society and families. men like you should avoid girls with such tastes but not bash them cause deep down they are ill. they need help. but you dont have to be the one to help them.
I dated a "nice guy" because I was finally looking to settle down, but he ended up being an asshole. I think I have lost all hope in "happily ever after".
He legitimately did seem like a nice guy. We were best friends for nearly 7 years, and he doted on me the entirety of our friendship like a sad little puppy. I guess he only wanted what he couldn't have.
@Funlt a lot of nice guys have learned to adapt to. Im not sure if this is the case with this guy. But some nice guys are not waiting to finish last anymore. They know the tale of Alpha fucks beta bucks. You are not really attracted to this guy or his type, the reason you turn to him is to settle down. Im not sure If indeed he liked you during ur 7yrs of being best friends but if indeed he did and you were having the other types as boyfriend or fucking them, how do u think he felt during those times? Not everyman wants to be second place. Nice guys/good men want to be involved in womens youth and early 20s to aka womens best years. Maybe you should continue with the type of guys you are really attracted to but Im guessing that hasn't worked thats why you settled for the sad little puppy. OR better still start being really attracted to good men characteristics. If they dont turn you on like the other
types then you are not ready for a good guy. If I was a good guy I would never date, marry a good or bad girl with a long history of dating bad guys. Im probably not the type that she is really into. Over the long term some women who settle for Mr Nicee and still get bored and file the divorce even though everything was perfect. stop settling instead take time to really change what you like. On the other hand not all nice guys/good guys stay good forever.
Bad boys are thrilling, wild and more confident than the "nice guys". All three of those traits are sexier in bed so I completely agree that bedding bad boys is a good time.
I'd never get romantically involved with a someone more impulsive and risky than I am though.
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The reason a lot of nice guys want to become like these bad boys is because they want to have sex with a lot of hot, "broken" women. These guys don't plan on keeping any one of these women around for long anyway, so it doesn't matter that she's not a "real woman".
Most don't actually want to become bad. What they want us for girls to accept them as they are. Some start turning bad simply because they don't want females to think they're goody and geeky.
Actually, most those nice guys want a girlfriend. It is frustrating as Hell when you can't get one and this doucebag fuckboy who is so obviously lying to these girls gets, literally, all of them. They want to be a fb, because it seems that is all women want, and then on top of it you have these self righteous girls juxtaposing the fuckboys and the nice guys. Most the nice guys want a girlfriend, and the fb, are the ones who lie to you all (yea all!) in order to pump and dump you!
I could, at any point in time, have put my income towards prostitution. I choose not to because fucking a "broken" woman or someone who fucks me for money isn't desirable. Your assumptions are incorrect. I ain't fucking nobody because all these hoes are valueless until one gives me the most precious thing of all, her time. Something these girls that like bad boys can't give.
I have multiple. And while I have had relationships before, despite what you seem to think, what I have said goes not just in my observations of women, but what you keep demonizing as "nice guys."
Girls like confident, masculine guys who are opinionated and stand up for themselves. These traits are somewhat correlated with being a 'bad' boy but are the polar opposite of a 'nice' guy.
Nice guys don't understand what woman really want. Nice guys believe they should get points for being nice and get rewarded sexually for being really nice and kind.
The competition isn't to be the nicest guy, it's to be the guy who has the most to offer a woman.
I agree with you about those traits being good and attractive, but even still they are subjective, because you have intelligent men who are all those things but are not badboys.
What women like really is the image of a bad, rebellious type. There are men as you described who women still don't want because the WAY they are confident and stand up for themselves is not in the badboy way that they like.
The entire bad boy thing is far, far overblown by all the 'nice' guys...
Bad boys have a lot of the other qualities (I listed them above) that woman desire and girls are willing to put up with a bad boy more than a guy who is needy, has little social skills, and/or doesn't know how to treat or talk to a woman...
Self confidence and social skills goes a long, long way and makes up for a lot of other short comings.
I distance my self from this type of girls at once.. even deep inside me , i don't respect them.. I see them as shallow immature girls who will end up having a shitty life.. You reap what you saw ! That is always what i see.. I blocked a girl like that today. we were talking for a while now , but i knew that about her and I just felt disgusted and not interested at all to have her as a friend of me
I never cared or let that get to me in any way. If that's not you, let go and move on. Dwelling on something your not is unproductive. Be confident in who you are and don't let people walk all over you... period.
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Anonymous
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I agree. Actually I now consider these kinds of women to be perfect for those types of guys. They're both damaged and toxic. I just won't accept one of these women after they're done going from one bad guy to the next looking to "settle".
From the bottom of my heart I feel for women who like bad boys. 150 years ago you wanted a bad boy. He was the good hunter. He was the good fighter to defend the house. Today he is obsolete and can't stay out of his own way. All "Bad Boys" are good for is making babies they can't take care of. Women who still like them are behind the evolutionary curve. Probability of them having a stable life together is low.
I didn't really read any of this, but I got the gist. Stay away from girls who like bad boys. i. e., stay away from girls. Got it.
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Anonymous
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I put up a poll on here, girls overwhelmingly voted for ta guy who beats them physically rather than a guy who hasn't had experience but is willing to learn. There's no hope for males unless we go back to primal instincts
I have a very difficult time believing that. I'm not surprised that many women want an experienced guy, but I am very surprised that they would take an abusive guy over an inexperienced guy. Especially consciously.
I agree. Plus us girls/women are attracted to boys/men that remind us of ourselves. I also like to sit and watch them make a mess of their own life choices.
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Maybe I'm a freak of nature, but I've never been attracted to bad boys.
Bad boys are exactly that!
To emphasize my last point, my former hairdresser married an ex con and had two babies with him. Before the younger one was even two years old, he decided he was tired of all the responsibility, left her and skipped town. The police still can't find him to make him pay child support.
Wowww.
Personally i dislike both bad boys and nice guys. First are rude and mean and second are sad ànd boring. I like those who treat me well, have a real sense of adventure and have good genes.
All kinds of personalities exist girl. Bad/nice are just words.
lol you are sad and boring. and a bit coockoo.
@levantine99 Nice doesn't mean "sad and boring". Bad doesn't mean "rude and mean" dummy. No wonder why cute boys like me avoid girls like you.
@Asad1ONE1 u are retarded dude. i took your side actually. i talked to her.
@levantine99 My mistake sweetie lol! I meant to reply to her!
@levantine99 i don't see why you had to call me coockoo.
@Asad1ONE1 dude I wrote that at 7am. Was pretty much generalizing.
@Asad1ONE1 I know all kinds of personalities exist.
because crazy women like you are the breeding ground for players who trouble women like us. u are the reason misogynists exist. i dont get how one can perverse light into darkness and darkness into light.
@levantine99 hahaha first of all, I'm as far from crazy as you can get. Secondly, I don't like players. Third you're wrong. Fourth I don't care why misogynists exist.
self awareness isn't to be expected to someone who dislikes good men. except if you mean completely other things than the general population deems as good with common sense.
@levantine99
@levantine99 I don't dislike good men. I dislike men who are afraid to take some risks. There are good men who are not afraid of risks. There are also bad men who beyond their violence are weak and silly
Lol why does it matter when you wrote it? But yes I get what you mean. Adventurous and balanced is very attractive. Everyone should be like this. It's the human way.
just by not caring misogynists exist is enough for you to be considered dangerous. u are the typical type of person who is like "if my yard is well, all the neighbors' yards can burn".
@levantine99 Well said girl. Women like you are meant for someone like me! Respect and empathize each other we must.
@Asad1ONE1 exactly so she has no need to attack me.
@levantine99 if my neighbours yard is burning I'll call the fire station. That's common sense. Also pls explain why I help misogyny?
it was a figure of speech. a metaphorical example, u can't be serious telling me what you'd do at an actual accident. as for misogyny those who dont care about a problem, as you personally stated, are already a part of it.
@levantine99 I think she does care
@levantine99 in my case, its giving a stupid answer to a stupid statement. Just FYI I cause WW1 and 2 and when it happens 3.
lol girl i didn't imply causation. i implied responsibility due to inaction. inaction equals negative actions. also your initial statement gave the picture of a bitch that tortures nice guys. maybe i misunderstood you and i apologise if that was the case.
@levantine99 well I have never tortured anyone or acted bitchily towards anyone who didn't deserve it. So you are wrong about me being someone who tortures nice guys. Also in case of misogyny, I let the small things slide.
Ok both of you seem very careful I can tell just by reading. Just a misconception. You both really are in the same page 📄.
@TacosRAwesome What you want makes perfect sense. I have no problem with that. I like the same kinds of women.
@ManOnFire thank you. Finally someone understands.
@TacosRAwesome A lot of people on this site can only comprehend one thing at a time, lol. It's not hard to get you.
Unlike the two twats above. You're cool.
I'm not a twat. I'm a 🐦.
@Asad1ONE1 a bird?
This girl know her shit. Upvote! 👍
@YourFutureEx thank you.
Yes 😢
I like a guy with ambition, someone who knows what they want and gets it. Being prepared for your future is everything, I want someone who wants to be financially stable and responsible but also knows the right times to have fun.
yeah its important if you want to estabish a family. but for a mature person its like number 5+ in their priority list. a financial shark and alpha dude, thats violent, cheats on you, is secretive, is shallow, and whatever else, is still unbareable.
@levantine99 well thankfully I'm in a pretty honest relationship as it is right now and I haven't seen any red flags just yet. Hoping it stays that way.
yeah generalisations and stereotypes could not be avoided but in general you are right. toxic ideals of masculinity are perpetuated in the media, by pop idols, and by society and families. men like you should avoid girls with such tastes but not bash them cause deep down they are ill. they need help. but you dont have to be the one to help them.
Trust me. I will not waste my time helping them, lol.
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I get the gist of it though.
I dated a "nice guy" because I was finally looking to settle down, but he ended up being an asshole. I think I have lost all hope in "happily ever after".
He legitimately did seem like a nice guy. We were best friends for nearly 7 years, and he doted on me the entirety of our friendship like a sad little puppy. I guess he only wanted what he couldn't have.
@TheUsername27 you're rude. I'm sure you're the one who "ain't shit".
@Funlit If you did not read it in full you shouldn't comment.
^^^^^
@Funlt a lot of nice guys have learned to adapt to. Im not sure if this is the case with this guy. But some nice guys are not waiting to finish last anymore. They know the tale of Alpha fucks beta bucks. You are not really attracted to this guy or his type, the reason you turn to him is to settle down. Im not sure If indeed he liked you during ur 7yrs of being best friends but if indeed he did and you were having the other types as boyfriend or fucking them, how do u think he felt during those times? Not everyman wants to be second place. Nice guys/good men want to be involved in womens youth and early 20s to aka womens best years. Maybe you should continue with the type of guys you are really attracted to but Im guessing that hasn't worked thats why you settled for the sad little puppy. OR better still start being really attracted to good men characteristics. If they dont turn you on like the other
types then you are not ready for a good guy. If I was a good guy I would never date, marry a good or bad girl with a long history of dating bad guys. Im probably not the type that she is really into. Over the long term some women who settle for Mr Nicee and still get bored and file the divorce even though everything was perfect. stop settling instead take time to really change what you like. On the other hand not all nice guys/good guys stay good forever.
"She's attracted to the bad boys. Now she's a single mom."
This ^^^ is so true. I see it all the time.
So do I.
unfortunatelly not all females learn xD
Hard lesson in life.
LOL @ the down votes. Seriously, how can anyone disagree with this? The dishonesty of many women if just crazy.
Bad boys are thrilling, wild and more confident than the "nice guys". All three of those traits are sexier in bed so I completely agree that bedding bad boys is a good time.
I'd never get romantically involved with a someone more impulsive and risky than I am though.
The reason a lot of nice guys want to become like these bad boys is because they want to have sex with a lot of hot, "broken" women. These guys don't plan on keeping any one of these women around for long anyway, so it doesn't matter that she's not a "real woman".
Most don't actually want to become bad. What they want us for girls to accept them as they are. Some start turning bad simply because they don't want females to think they're goody and geeky.
Actually, most those nice guys want a girlfriend. It is frustrating as Hell when you can't get one and this doucebag fuckboy who is so obviously lying to these girls gets, literally, all of them. They want to be a fb, because it seems that is all women want, and then on top of it you have these self righteous girls juxtaposing the fuckboys and the nice guys. Most the nice guys want a girlfriend, and the fb, are the ones who lie to you all (yea all!) in order to pump and dump you!
@genuinlysensitive If you want a relationship, try having a standout quality other than just being nice.
I could, at any point in time, have put my income towards prostitution. I choose not to because fucking a "broken" woman or someone who fucks me for money isn't desirable. Your assumptions are incorrect. I ain't fucking nobody because all these hoes are valueless until one gives me the most precious thing of all, her time. Something these girls that like bad boys can't give.
I have multiple. And while I have had relationships before, despite what you seem to think, what I have said goes not just in my observations of women, but what you keep demonizing as "nice guys."
Girls like confident, masculine guys who are opinionated and stand up for themselves. These traits are somewhat correlated with being a 'bad' boy but are the polar opposite of a 'nice' guy.
Nice guys don't understand what woman really want. Nice guys believe they should get points for being nice and get rewarded sexually for being really nice and kind.
The competition isn't to be the nicest guy, it's to be the guy who has the most to offer a woman.
I agree with you about those traits being good and attractive, but even still they are subjective, because you have intelligent men who are all those things but are not badboys.
What women like really is the image of a bad, rebellious type. There are men as you described who women still don't want because the WAY they are confident and stand up for themselves is not in the badboy way that they like.
I don't really see any of my female friends dating this type of bad boy you describe...
My female friends are all dating guys who are confident, secure in themselves, successful, attractive (relatively) and fun to be around.
Two of My uncles are really nice guys. But they'll put a stranger in check on the streets in a heartbeat.
You're describing sissy nice guys, that have no courage, confidence and boldness. Those guys are lames.
@prince1102 The problem is that you keep seeing it as a bad boy thing. I have those traits, and am decent, and I still get attention from women.
The entire bad boy thing is far, far overblown by all the 'nice' guys...
Bad boys have a lot of the other qualities (I listed them above) that woman desire and girls are willing to put up with a bad boy more than a guy who is needy, has little social skills, and/or doesn't know how to treat or talk to a woman...
Self confidence and social skills goes a long, long way and makes up for a lot of other short comings.
I distance my self from this type of girls at once.. even deep inside me , i don't respect them.. I see them as shallow immature girls who will end up having a shitty life.. You reap what you saw ! That is always what i see.. I blocked a girl like that today. we were talking for a while now , but i knew that about her and I just felt disgusted and not interested at all to have her as a friend of me
I never cared or let that get to me in any way. If that's not you, let go and move on. Dwelling on something your not is unproductive. Be confident in who you are and don't let people walk all over you... period.
I agree. Actually I now consider these kinds of women to be perfect for those types of guys. They're both damaged and toxic. I just won't accept one of these women after they're done going from one bad guy to the next looking to "settle".
Good take. I never understood the appeal of bad boys, jerks, etc.
"street-smarts"
code word for fucking stupid and the epitome of an IQ of 100
From the bottom of my heart I feel for women who like bad boys. 150 years ago you wanted a bad boy. He was the good hunter. He was the good fighter to defend the house. Today he is obsolete and can't stay out of his own way. All "Bad Boys" are good for is making babies they can't take care of. Women who still like them are behind the evolutionary curve. Probability of them having a stable life together is low.
Those women who have grown up just hit the wall and have to find those "nice guys" to provide them resources. It's the cycle of Western women.
True... I've seen it happen a lot.
I didn't really read any of this, but I got the gist. Stay away from girls who like bad boys. i. e., stay away from girls. Got it.
I put up a poll on here, girls overwhelmingly voted for ta guy who beats them physically rather than a guy who hasn't had experience but is willing to learn. There's no hope for males unless we go back to primal instincts
That doesn't surprise me.
I have a very difficult time believing that. I'm not surprised that many women want an experienced guy, but I am very surprised that they would take an abusive guy over an inexperienced guy. Especially consciously.
I truly agree that the women who lust after bad boys, are just as damaged as the bad boy is himself.
Let those "bad girls" have their bad boys and make a mess of each others' lives... and just watch on the sidelines with your popcorn.🍿
I agree. Plus us girls/women are attracted to boys/men that remind us of ourselves. I also like to sit and watch them make a mess of their own life choices.
i agree with you on this
bad guys only bring trouble!