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I refuse to believe, that women dont want our money (Page 3)
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Maybe that’s what women like? lololol I’ve had women like me for my money, then again I like being a sugar mommy sooo oop
Simple solution: Just don't give them access to it. Don't marry, move in together, etc. This way you spend when you want to without unpleasant surprises.
Gotta test her before revealing any property, cars, accounts etc. drive an average to below average car and dont flaunt wealth or job if she is still interested give it a shot
A general good advice to follow. I won't reveal to a total stranger how much I earn. Bad, I broke that rule one day and revealed my salary to an ex-arrested person. Gladly, nothing happened.
Men give each other more money than they give women. As long as you are cool with the wage gap, you can't really complain that women must go to men for money - that is, after all, the whole point of the wage gap.
Oooh. Yes, that was such a dazzling display of dignity and esteem.
Are you suggesting that the wage gap was something men chose? I didn't vote for the wage gap.
Or are you implying that working for more paid hours and negotiating for raises more often is a conscious act of sexism from men?
Not consciously chose, no. It just kinda "made sense," given the culture at the time when women were first allowed to enter the workforce, and stuck with us all that while.
But really it's beside the point, as none of it alters the fact that the wage gap exists. No matter what reasons one can come up with for how you have 80% of the spending power of the guy next to you, it is still the case that whatever advantage spending power gives someone, you will have less of it. And in all the "Only one can win" capitalistic situations that are decided by spending power, you will lose them all. Is this even a bad thing? Who knows. And it is worth figuring out why it's happening. If even 1% of the wage gap can be attributed to sexism, that matters a lot to those whom it effects - you can obscure some pretty large gaps by talking of averages.
I agree that you can obscure some pretty large gaps by talking about averages, but on the topic of spending power and inequality, what if women had more spending power?
girlpowermarketing.com/.../
Front page quotes:
"Women control more than 60% of all personal wealth in the U. S." (Source: Federal Reserve, MassMutual Financial Group, BusinessWeek, Gallup)
"Women account for 85% of all consumer purchases"
(Source: Yankelovich Monitor & Greenfield Online)
This suggests that even with a wage gap, women have much more ability to shape the market, at least in America (going by this data).
If you doubt the studies, then at least consider it as a hypothetical.
The wage gap has honestly been reversed today. Women are making more than they deserve to be making. Example: a female firefighter should be paid less than a man, because the man can preform better because being a firefighter requires a lot of physical labor. Women (usually) can’t compete with men in the athletic department.
Another example: I agree that women should be paid more when it comes to multitasking jobs or jobs that require attention to detail. This is only because women (usually) focus on small details more than men do.
@kibbenkat That's an interesting point, but right now I think the focus is on the power that comes with a demographic having more money than others. I am interested in physical labor and how it may deserve more pay because of the long-term health effects. By this logic, jobs in biochem, which are a little bit more represented by women (https://datausa. io/profile/cip/260202/#demographics), should have higher pay than other STEM jobs because of the risk of lab accidents. I dunno, there's a lot of nuance and it seems very situational.
Overall, I think that a lot of complaints could go away if we improve stuff like the minimum wage (without causing inflation somehow). If everyone had enough money to live a comfortable life someday, then maybe it'd be chill. If not, hey, everyone's a bit better off.
@Boppy I agree with your first paragraph. However, I believe power shouldn’t be bothered with. My philosophy is that you get what you earn/deserve and nothing more or less. Get an 8 year college degree? That person should be making a whole lot more than the garbage man who chose to drop out of high school.
@kibbenkat Sure, but if the person who drops out of high school can only afford a decent apartment, a pet, and to raise a family, access to medical care, etc... Then sure someone with an 8-year degree can enjoy all of that + their gold-plated mansion.
I also don't fully agree with your example because the garbage man in question may find academia quite hard, while an academic with an 8-year degree may find collecting garbage in all weather to be quite hard.
@Boppy Yes, however that is what he earned. People should be responsible for themselves. He can ask for charity if he really needs it. Government can supply basic healthcare and nothing more. Government is not a support device—it’s a law system.
@kibbenkat My point is that pay for "earned work" may differ based on who finds what job difficult. Either way, I think that rock bottom should be high enough that it's easy to pick yourself back up (it's hard getting and keeping a job when sleeping on the streets, for example).
It seems like we may need to agree to disagree on this point.
@Boppy Um. You didn't link any studies. The "girlpowermarketing" link you provided, whatever that is, just had plain text and then listed some seemingly random things as sources. Like, the first source was literally the "federal reserve" lol? Is that supposed to be a joke? I mean, actually, that would be quite a good one, so I'll just assume it is.
@kibbenkat the wage gap has not "honestly been reversed." I don't know where you're getting your information, but I'd be delighted if you would share it.
You're right, though rude. The sources turned out to link to other sources in a chain that led to a book. I haven't been able to find much at all.
I also haven't been able to disprove it with anything solid. I'm not finding much on the topic of market influence by gender.
www.forbes.com/.../
Here's a Forbes article that links a BLS report, here:
https://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.nr0.htm
I can't find the data that they're referencing in Forbes, but it does make for a neat read.
This saying is wrong
Girl want money
Girl get money
She can leave anybody for money
She can compromise her
Love for money
True love don't exist 70% time
A girl see her future partner
Who can provide financial stability
Women never honest about their feeling. What they say are usually the opposite of inside their heart and thinking.
Women want to feel that they are being treated like queens. That doesn’t cost anything a lot of the time. But flowers, romantic meals and trips out sure as hell help
Queens mostly life a luxury life, not a humble. My girlfriend was with her rich aunt for 4 years and she decided to go back to her mother having a humble life. The rich aunt could not understand it. But she said humble life can be hard (farmer work) but also relaxing at the same time.
Tbh i would never :/ If i was in a relationship i would only want love
Then stay single and don't complain about it. Sounds like sour grapes to me -- you can't attract a partner, so you just pretend that every woman is just after money and convince yourself that you aren't missing anything.
This has everything to do with the kind of females you go after. You got expensive taste but can't afford it.
I'm always after poor (not desperate) women where I can sense no money-laundering habits.
Is this your question?
No? I just give my comment to yours to strengthen what you say, he went after the wrong women.
You're entitled to your opinion. Same as flat earthers and anti vax people are.
Ok. Thanks for sharing your opinion. Just to note you didn’t ask a question which is a requirement for this site unless you put up a mytake. Which is what you should’ve done here. This post could be removed for not complying to the rules
It’s a take. Chill bruh. Let the man breathe jeez
I get your point but you can't say that about every woman out there
Lol what if she makes more money than you. You can be the hit pool boy that gives dick. Or bump thug dudes who chicks marry but stay with for dick. And the woman basically take care of them
I dont want money, I just want a guy to provide for me. Two totally different things 😆
That is an indirect wanting our money. Is it enough he pays a decent apartment, just enough to make a living? He pays the shopping bills for buying food and drinks (not alcohol, you cannot survive from it) and electricity/water bills? If that is enough and okay for you, then that is regular and nothing like using males as a walking ATM. I was the later one to a German girl called "S. H." and she grabbed 250 EUR from me, just for being with me. Every time she came here, she asked for more money and even asked me to give me a blowjob when I asked when she is finally after my feelings (read: emotions). She thought of physical feelings, not emotional. I think that is where he puts a finger towards.
@roland77 I'm already married and he like providing for me. His job is pretty great tho having a wife gives him more money so technically he's making money off me. I could see how a normal job would not work out when trying to provide everything for someone
Exactly the same thing. That's mooching off of someone.
@roland77 You shouldn't blame every woman on this planet for yourself having been extremely naive. If someone asks money from you is a huge red flag.
@Taylor_C Yes, it is a huge red flag for me. My girlfriend was ashamed of receiving money from me, unasked (she would never ask for it). :-)
@roland77 Can only speak for myself, but I would rather be starving than trying to solicit money out of a boyfriend.
@Taylor_C An extreme situation, I agree. Okay, if you are my girlfriend, I would tell you to come and eat here with me.
@Taylor_C And sorry that it sounds like blaming all women, I'm not naive. I can grow beyond S. H. (the one using me as an ATM).
@Taylor_C more like expecting men to contribute to a relationship.
most so-called "egalitarian" relationships actually involve the woman contributing more than the man, due to childbearing
If a woman contributes 50/50 to the bills, does 50/50 housework, AND gestates/bears/breastfeeds the babies, she is contributing far more than the man is
What #mistixs says is half-true. Men cannot give birth to a child, nor can they breast-feed. Is like blaming women of that men have, like generally more muscles, mapping the area around them in their brain or simply having a penis. As I can speak only for myself, I did help a lot in my shared household and I won't become bored asking it my current girlfriend. But, constantly being blamed doing it wrong kinda, you know, sucks?
@roland77 I would assume that's only going to happen if the female sometimes treats you to dinner as well.
@mistixs Cut down on the child bearing. You're only going to destroy the pleanet.
@Taylor_C okay well tell that to the men then.
@mistixs Babies should not be breastfed past age 6 months according to modern research. Also, any breast feeding is a choice you make.
@mistixs An increasing number are becoming aware.
@Taylor_C why does it matter if it's a choice? Men choose to work; does that mean they don't deserve to be compensated?
And the consequences of not breastfeeding are lower iq, higher mental illnesses and higher physical illnesses.
6 months is the amount of time the baby is to be exclusively breastfed. Doctors recommend the breastfeeding to be continued, although not the sole food source, for 2 years.
@Taylor_C sooo wrong on the breastfeeding thing. Babies need to be breastfed for at least a year and its acutally recommended till 2 years so the baby builds there immunity and is able to fight viruses on there own. I breastfed for 20 months and during that time my family got sick multiple times and the baby never ever got sick so it does indeed help to breastfeed for that reason alone
@mistixs Everyone has the responsibility to provide for themselves, regardless of gender. It's anyone's choice to not work, but it's going to imply being homeless and starving. Living off of somebody else's income is by definition being a moocher. It also seems you nor your doctor are up to date about current nutrional research. Any breast feeding past age 6 months will have a negative impact on the child's future health.
@Taylor_C I went to a breastfeeding support group and there are multiple lactation doctors there that all agreed to breastfed as long as possible
@Taylor_C that is false. www.aappublications.org/.../breastfeeding082018
And okay, just say "I think it's fair for women to contribute much more to most families than men do" and continue saying you support equality, because that's equal somehow
@Taylor_C and I also dont work because my job is to take care of my children and my husband likes to provide for his family. It's a win win for everyone
Well, they are apparently up to date with modern research. Breast milk is very sugary, and research has proven a higher incidence of diabetes as well as overweight and poor dental health in children who are breast fed longer. You need to realize a lot of politics are going into trying to make women breast feed longer.
@Taylor_C formula is made from corn syrup, breast milk is not sugary, it has sugars in it so the baby doesn't get low blood sugar and die 🤦♀️
@Taylor_C www.sciencedaily.com/.../180117185037.htm
"Thirty-year study shows women who breastfeed for 6 months *********or more********* reduce their diabetes risk"
Awkward :/
@Apple1996 I heard the same about it, sad thing is my now-ex wife was not able to give milk to our baby (now 3 years old) and me, too. LOL. Simply because no milk came out. Still my daughter is healthy. :-) But isn't this going "a little" off-topic now? ;-)
You're all wrong. It is very sugary. The only children in the world who really needs at are those in third world countries, who don't have access to good nutrition.
@mistixs You're not citing scientific peer reviewed and current scientific work in the nutritional field. Go have a look at PubMed. I also have a friend who is doing her disputation in this field.
@mistixs Seems you feel threatened that your breast milk is really not necessary for a child to grow up healthy?
@Taylor_C you provide a link
@Taylor_C Breast-feeding is very important, sure. It binds the child to the mother, both ways, and is very healthy to drink, not just for the baby. ;-) I was asking my now-ex-wife if she can breastfeed me, just because to come closer to her. :-)
@mistixs if this is a chore to her than she probably shouldn't get kids
@roland77 🤮
@Chase7777 if contributing by providing for the needs of your child (and therefore also the needs of your pregnant or breastfeeding wife) is a chore to him, then he should not have kids either
yep. she's wanting his monnies. it's just rephrased.
The evidence lies in divorces. How many men have to pay alimony?
It looks unfair at start but later becomes clear, if you have had a child together. The woman mostly has it with her, so you have to pay for the child. Still I found it wrong, when I was on social money and was considered as "earning to much". Even now, I would have to pay it for the same reason but I have a low-wage job. :-( ~270 EUR is really a lot when you "earn" just ~1k EUR.
Yeah majority do or at least just want to be nurtured and that usually results in being selfish with money which is like them doing the same thing.
Your true about that. But again, not all women want your money. However percentage of those women who don't want are very less.
What if she has more money than you?
no complaints. i don't want hers. but i want to know ways to make more money myself and she could help me achieve that without spending a dollar.
I was always taught to depend on myself. Not some guy.