Would you agree that an abortion of twins is a double homicide? (Page 3)
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Women who get abortions are evil.
You're evil. Women who get abortions are fine. You cannot harm an organism in any meaningful way by killing it if it doesn't understand death and can't experience pain... which is the case of fetuses before about 24 weeks into the pregnancy or so, according to the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists.
It's not a homicide at all generally speaking
Why then did the woman get upset about it and feel the need to tell all inc. the world
because she went through hell. If that implies homicide... you crying when your grandmother dies apparently means you probably killed her.
No I would not agree it's a double homicide.
So why did the woman get upset
We don't know her circumstances. Maybe wasn't an easy decision for her to make. Maybe she does feel guilty. Feeling guilty about something doesn't mean you're admitting you committed a crime.
Guilt is a feeling of wrongdoing. This is why this woman confessed on a reality show. She was looking for forgiveness, I myself could not forgive her I'm afraid.
Why couldn't you forgive her?
She killed. And what's worse she is making money from it.
I'm pro choice. I don't believe she killed anything outside of herself. Too many kids are brought into this world unwanted, unloved and suffering.
But she was priveledged enough to go out having sex with men? Makes no sense. You're bringing in extreme environments to suit your ideology yet she's on a reality TV show in America making money off killing. She denied someone waiting in line an opportunity to live on earth.
Why does this bother you so much? Obviously you would never be with a woman who would abort their pregnancy. How is it affecting you that the next lives in line were not brought into this world? She can't make money from it unless someone pays her. She can't abort her pregnancy unless someone is willing to do it. I don't really give too much fuck about her her motives, they are hers and for her to deal with. If she's a heartless, selfish, immoral, money grabbing cow I am still pro choice.
you are pro-choice because you want to be. But before you decide on that you should care about others or else it's selfish. This world can take away your freedom and give you back a little of it to keep you happy. Imagine if you were told you can only have 1 child you want a boy, you'd choose to keep aborting girls? That's what happened in China.
I thought we were talking about whether or not in my opinion abortion is homicide. Now you're talking about freedom, aborting boys or girls, and China. I've lost the plot!
this question challenges natural selection. She aborted because she was having twins, rather than 1 baby.
Is miscarriage mother nature committing homicide?
you're being dumb 🤣
So if a father punches a pregnant girl's belly or puts something in her food that stops a pregnancy, that's an abortion? They didn't want the baby. Can't be homicide.
Oh my god... fetuses are either forced to live or forced not to live. If we think about the "free will" of the fetus... it doesn't understand death. Death basically just means falling into a deep sleep for it. It's not going to mind that unless it involves pain... which it doesn't seem to before 24 weeks according to the American College of obstetricians and Gynecologists.
Now, even once it can experience pain that pain needs to be weight against the unpleasantness of being born and whatever negative circumstances the parents were considering getting an abortion over.
You're bashing women over nothing. You're encouraging them to harm themselves... through not getting abortions when they get pregnant but don't want children... for no reason, and if they are foolish enough to listen to you and have children, it harms their children too because they had children before they wanted them.
@ "you're being dumb 🤣
So if a father punches a pregnant girl's belly or puts something in her food that stops a pregnancy, that's an abortion? They didn't want the baby. Can't be homicide."
You're the one being dumb. That's illegal because it steals something from the mother, damages her body, and ruins her plans for the future. It also might have prevented the would-be baby from growing up in an ideal environment the mother had planned for it.
@cloudspy Because they don't want to think about reality enough to figure out that they're wrong, because that would make them feel icky... so they bother you to feel better about themselves. You have my sympathies by the way.
Nope
Yes and the father is part of the crime …
Stop blaming women and fucking use a condom..
Why do you assume the father didn't want twins
Guys, women will lie about taking birth control and either trap you or change their mind and cancel their, not your, offspring.
@iBeowulf oh i see what you mean, when a girl cheats
I wasn't referring to cheating, but that also happens... can you not read?
@iBeowulf you said "cancel their, not your" so it's your fault
Since they're obviously biologically related to both parents, I refer to legality because of child custody statistics. Dealing with dumb people just sucks all the fun out of everything. I can't be hyperbolic, I can't try analogies... I can't be colorful.
@iBeowulf you are so Sheldon like 😅
You wish, fat boy.
the woman let him inside of her without the condom. Women have the power in the bedroom BY LAW. So she can deny him entrance unless he's wrapped. Plus she has plan B, mesh, birth control, all kinds of shit. Literally 13 kinds! STOP BLAMING MEN FOR WOMEN'S LACK OF FORESIGHT!
You're crazy smart, but we both know that'll never happen. Women could have godlike power and they'd still blame men for everything.
@iBeowulf no they won't... not typically, and most men won't rape you too.
Leave me out of your homoerotic fantasies.
I'd rather watch sports and cartoons.
We should be glad our mothers wanted us
Sure, but I hate reality programming.
I do too actually 😂
You wouldn't have lost anything if your mother had terminated your pregnancy. You'd never know it... so no... there is no reason to be glad our mothers "wanted" us, unless by wanted us, you mean loved us after we already existed as babies who were looking up at the world and learning about it. Then, yes, in that sense we should be glad our mothers wanted us.
@Halibut Way too serious of a response.
this is a serious topic. I've probably spent 20 hours arguing on this website alone, because this is important to me.
@Halibut Okay.
Yes it is.
Yes I would
It’s not a homicide at all
It is you just don't understand
It’s easy for you too say that abortion is wrong and murder when you will never get pregnant. Giving birth is like the closest a women will ever come to death so the women should have a say on if she wants to give birth or not
Yes.
Bullshit.
LMAOOO DUH