Why are some middle aged woman so miserable and bitter towards young women?

[Puppystarfish23]

I've noticed this a lot at work with women aged between late 40s to 60s but they are so bitter and rotten inside.

Some lady's are lovely and sweet usually they are the ones who have a loving maternal side to them and they just wanna protect you.

Nothing is ever good enough for these women, they can't say anything positive or nice about anything or anyone. Usually with men they are nicer but almost kinda act like abit of a pick me girl.

They think they are so much better than everyone else and they should be in charge.

I left my old job because the women I worked with were just too toxic and I couldn't stand it any longer as soon as I found a knew job I was gone.

Most the people at my work now are generally kind decent people even if we piss one another off at times but there's this one woman I call "vintage pick me Karen" for obvious reasons. She's always wearing her mask when no one's around her, calling everyone else because there not wearing one. She's always wining about something under her mask. I've had a couple run in with the bitch and it always seems like she's gagging to start a fight with someone. I just ignore her and everyone looks at her like she's a twat.

I swear she's not been shagged since 1980. Whenever I see her around big groups of men she's completely different she's laughing and joking with them but usually really loudly and she's calling other members of staff and bragging about herself.

Today I was going on to my break and I got my phone out just to check the time before I went. I overheard her mutter "get of your phone" as if it's bothering her and she's the manger or something like fuck off and get a life sad cow.

I kinda think it's a insecurity thing they think they are no longer wanted at that age and are bitter about it. Bitter about losing the attention they got and there looks and now they decide to be jealous and act out towards young women. She kinda reminds me of miss Trunchbull

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I did some investigating and this women at my work is known for being not very nice. Most the lady's there are lovely and really sweet. I had a really bad experience at my last work place some of the ladies loved me and we got on really well but some of the others were extremely, extremely rude. They behaved like school bullies

[AmandaYVR]

Look, there are nasty people all over the place. And we should try to avoid them, and when we can't we must find ways to co-exist with them. And that's not easy.
But I think you should check yourself too. You write a lot of negativity and complain about the women (mainly one woman) you work with, and now even though you don't work with her, you are calling her 'a Karen', 'a pick me', 'a twat', 'a cow', 'she's jealous', etc etc etc. You really should not go around deriding and labelling people like that. It's incredibly rude and dismissive to use these terms. You are saying them here, about her, about them, but I also get the feeling that you rub a lot of people the wrong way.
You invite me to a question about "miserable middle aged women" and want me to support you? Do you see the irony in that?
I have tried to support you, and have written a lot on your questions, but as I said once, you don't respond, engage, comment, like, etc., so after this, I really don't feel inspired to try and support and help you anymore.
It's time to grow up and take more personal responsibility. If she's a bitch, she's a bitch. Don't spend all your free time bitching about her. Move on.
And p. s. not everything is about jealousy. Older people are not jealous of young people. We were there once. We get it.

[Puppystarfish23]

I'm sorry if you feel this way but I would like you to know I'm not a bad person at all. I'm actually extremely shy and keep what I'm thinking to myself. I work long hours and have a family and a boyfriend to deal with. I don't spend a whole lot of my time on here. Plus in from the UK so usually when people reply back to me its in the middle of the night. I can't afford to but my life on hold to reply back to every single person on this site. How ignorant do you think that would look to my boyfriend and family if I sat on my phone talking to people I barely know all day. Plus I actually never said all middle age women. there's a certain type of middle age women I'm talking about and if you feel personally victimised by what I said I'm sorry

[AmandaYVR]

Thank you for the apology and acknowledgement.
I'm not 'victimized' and it's not about me, don't worry about that. I am speaking on behalf of others, though, and your very derisive attitude. This question is far from the first I have seen you write in this way.
Remember this?
What are some things you hate about people? ↗

You can spend as much or as little time as you want on gag, but saying that you have a family and boyfriend and there's a time difference are absolutely not things that excuse this behaviour. If you only vent, write long tirades about this and that you don't like (especially one individual person you worked with), then you are making a choice each time you do it. And if you never interact and engage with other users (especially on your own questions and topics) then you come off as a taker, a user, not a contributor who pays it forward, or even thanks others for their concern.

Also, you paint a picture, always give a similar narrative, not a balanced view, and I'm sorry, but it's not always all the other person or people. Yet, hate and anger are powerful motivators. (So is frustration, but when you call women twats, it's much, much, worse a reelection on you than simply frustration. You're being a bitch, quite frankly. And there are enough people on gag who also want to hate others, so they just pile on and go 'Yeah, they're just jealous of you" and all this other shit. Jealousy is what an arrogant mind calls all others who don't like or respect them. It's a cop-out so you don't have to ever self-reflect. I see it often on here, from low twenty-something females who lash out any time they feel criticized.

You have autism. You've publicly declared it before so I don't feel I'm speaking out of turn here. This is the single reason why I've continued to answer your questions. I have wanted to help you understand about the world. There is a lot to learn, to know, and I get that. Everyone must go through this.

[AmandaYVR]

But I have to say, I've seen better behaviour and attitudes from other autistics. Everyone must learn to regulate their emotions and behaviour. So I'm done now. I've been more than patient. Every single time I open one of your automated invites, you are complaining, and often being rude. That's not okay. You need to get help from those close in your life, and take some personal responsibility and stop pointing fingers always at others. You're going to brush up against shitty people. And I don't fully doubt that that woman you worked with was difficult and sometimes unfair. But it's a theme with you. I suggest to you to push yourself to look more at the positives in life and stop these tirades complaining about people. You said you don't have female friends, don't get along with them. Yet you are bisexual and attracted to them. I wrote a long, detailed, compassionate, reply about all that, and got crickets from you. You need to start thinking about what you put out, and give, to the world, and not just what you take, and deserve.

[Alyssa11]

I’ve had similar experiences lol. I feel like they’re mad they grew up and watch us be young and free.

[Diodoro]

Girls are competitive. Guys care about beauty. Beauty is often associated with youth. The farther they get from their prime years the less competitive they are. This is their mindset.

They're in a game they can't win straight up. But what they can do is take out or tear down the competition. Older women should be guides for younger women. But oftentimes they're not trustworthy sadly

[DaveJord]

I can explain why people get they way that get. I think at some point middle age people reach a point that they feel untiled to something better, or have paid their dues and deserver more.

But if you let it bother, then its on you, not them. So fuck'em, and don't allow yourself to become one.

[Amy_gurl]

I will be honest as most women are in denial. I'm an average girl who has carefully picked an average men with an average income average looks and status with an incredible personality great values great parenting skills and fidelity.. But most women today have a problem of EGOFLATION which comes from swiping apps and social media. The illusion of infinite choices plus all the male attention we can get for just being woman without bringing much if anything to the table is what makes this egoflation problem reach unbelievable proportions. The reality is that most men will have sex with pretty much any women that agrees to have sex with them. Men will sleep down a lot with even very below average ones just because well she is there and available... Women we don't do that in general so... This illusion of infinite possibilities coupled with the overwhelming sexual attention women get from men create problems in us women yess... Just because we’re getting all the attention from all the guys at ages 18- 25 and that we can manage to have sex with the 666 guy, ( the chad that's 6 foot tall, has a 6 pack and a 6 figure income, with a 10 out of 10 on the attractiveness spectrum) well doesn't mean anything in long term relationships. Women go after these chads thinking well I slept with a guy of this calibre so I won't settle for anything less! but the problem is that those guys represent maybe 5 % of the dating pool. so like 80% of women go after these 5 percenters of guys.. what happens is, well, the chads they date casually date and these women are just passed around. They hit it and quit it... ( thats’s why older women say all men are trash by the way) The chads they don't need to settle for any women because they can f**k them all.. They have unlimited options! but never do they settle. They're having fun and using women that’s all. Women sadly think they will get the chads to wife them up.. It won't happen. Now feminism I think is a lie it teaches us that... hey ! sleep around like men do ! Have fun don't settle you're worth so much.. Be a boss bitch, make lots of money go get high degrees, don't settle for less go after the chads.. Well what happens is that most men don't value the same thing as most women do. Men value youth, purity ( low body count) they value looks and fertility that's what most men are considering in a life partner... Men will sleep with the bitch boss babe and the cutie that's 22 and has a body count of 120 already BUT he won't stick around. He might do the same with the 30 something with 3 kids.. but again won’t stick around!!! Why? Because biologically speaking, men are programmed to seek women who aren't promiscuous because it is more likely the offspring that he will invest resources in will actually end up being his (a women when she gets pregnant even if she's promiscuous and isn't sure who the fathers is.. doesn't matter to her because she knows 100% that its her biological baby. (paternity only matters to her when times come for collecting child support and alimony after divorce or break up lol $$$) On the other hand women biologically tend to favour men with more resources and who are taller for same biological reasons. Not too long ago, pairing up with a strong and high status man was giving the woman a better chance of survival in the harsh reality of the world plus made their kids future brighter. Now we've lived in peaceful times for awhile now but hard times will eventually return.. feminism will go out the window... people will revert back to their natural gender roles.. Weak men that play video games in their parents basement will need to be strong again or they will perish.. Women will need to be realistic and pair up with a strong men of good status but not seek unrealistically higher calibre men that won't settle because they too will perish or have a very very difficult time alone and those with kids out of wedlock will have a very bleak short life.. Women are born with value (beauty, youth, energy, fertility and purity). Men have to earn that value ( muscles status income resources come with hard work and age, just being an attractive guy and sitting there don’t bring a guy any value unlike women) Women peak at around age 23 after that in the dating world, her value decreases.. Men peak in the mid thirties to mid forties why because they had those 2 decades to work on their body their mental strength and their income and status. So feminism teaches women to sleep around and partying and being over selective... till women realize that : Hey men aren’t giving me as much attention anymore... Hey I'm childless and 37 now or hey I have children but I’m a single mom and I want a stable man who’s a lover and provider a father figure when times starts running out for having kids.. By then its too late for most women because the NOW successful men that were friend zoned BACK WHEN THEY WERE 20 YEAR OLD GENTLEMENS BUT BROKE well now they have resources and status so they date the new YOUNGER generation of women who are childless and 22... and because of social EGOFLATION those older women are still chasing men that don't actually exist or the few top 5 percenters... So they end up frustrated and lonely with cats and dogs or lonely single moms that become bitter and angry feminists that hate men (mysandrists ) and hate younger women for getting all the attention they no longer get.. ( some intentionally give bad advice to younger women to make sure they’re not alone at failing and missing the train !!! You know those spiteful women at work hahaha ) They wish that they hadn't fallen for the feminist lie... and that they had spent their peak value years in locking down a good quality man even if average because average guys, the good guys are faithful in general because they don't have as many options as women and have good values too.. plus very kind guys get overlooked by women because they go after bad boys a lot... those well they have money they have run ins with the law they are attractive and they sleep around... so unfaithful most of the time and not treating us ladies well... I'm happily married with 3 kids and I know that all my friends who tell me that I'm missing out on sleeping around getting free meals on dates etc... Well when they get older they will be lonely single and miserable with money maybe, but lonely without any kids to share their financial success with so lonely in an empty house.. Women, just like with the overly inflated housing bubble, the women bubble, when they hit their mid thirties it will all come crashing down and will make women very unhappy in the long run. My teaching for my two daughters: Spend you prime years wisely... don't sleep around pic the best men you can realistically get forget tinder and the instant gratification BS. Respect yourself and don't be passed around by chads ( those are the guys that mistreat women because they don't need to be nice they have limitless options !) Work to be a god person from the inside you're looks and sex appeal are temporary... your personality will stay till you die.. you can better it and this will give you real value and make a good men wife you up and respect you... And my boy I teach him : Respect women don't pass them around to your buddies... I'm your mom and a woman too! Be willing too compromise even for a less attractive girl if she has a great personality and great values that's what counts because once beauty fades women who only had that, will be worthless and bad mother on top of becoming ugly.. You will have to leave her and she will grow lonely and in distress... She might use your kids as a weapon to hurt you, collecting child support while preventing you fro fathering your kids, get you bankrupt, make up false accusations too tarnish your reputation and get a leg up in a custody battle.. An angry women is very dangerous my son you too have a responsibility to choose a women wisely and become her life partner.. That’s why women in middle age get angry and bitter... They suddenly realize that they have to work on their personality and maturity because their looks doesn’t get them trough life anymore.. you know the saying: women mature faster than men but stop maturing in teenage years and start maturing again at 35-40 ! Men have to mature all the time or else they become losers and don’t get any bedroom action! Women get away with it in their prime years with their sexual appeal they don’t need to mature or become a good person when their in their peak value but they should! When women ask me where are all the good guys my answer is : THE FRIEND ZONE MY DEAR THE FRIEND ZONE !

[razzmatazz009]

What a dumb question! You don't understand that that's just your perspective and it's very inside the box? Older women could feel the same thing from younger women, each individual is different why do you choose to put your left sock on before your right sock?

[HighValue]

Because they are past the age of being desirable for a good quality man for an exclusive LTR. they know the younger women still have a chance of having a good man for an exclusive LTR (depending on her past) and it makes them angry. They made the wrong decisions in life and now it is too late regardless of what they do at this point.

I have seen it too where they are overly nice and catering to desirable men, but nasty towards younger women co workers that did nothing to them.

[rosemilk]

maybe it's just their personality, not their age...

[Shy_Steve]

I reckon because they know the bad things a lot of young Girls do because they use do the same when they were young and now they regret it.

[Rosalindaa__]

Jealousy, probably doesn’t get enough attention. Or maybe didn’t have as much freedom when younger.

[Recurrence]

Jealousy

[threebelles]

I think its insecurity.

[JinxyKat]

Envy.