I've concluded that guys ruined girls?

[chris_987]

I think guys showerd girls with too much attention and now every girl takes men for granted, even this website. Guys will answer a question geared towards girls and not realize that when 50 guys answer a question about pregnancy, not only do girls not take you serious. But it gives girls a mindset they don't have to do anything for male attention. And I'm not even gonna get into onlyfans and guys paying money just so they can talk to a girl.

[Juxtapose]

This is the main reasons why I absolutely hate initiating with women but don't mind initiating with men (I am bi). Homo and bi guys love attention but women don't put anywhere near the same value on my attention.

Thank goodness for the women who ask guys out or I would have dated almost none of you ladies 😂 I can't ask someone out to save my life.

[ShaneG82]

Yea us guys did it to ourselves over inflating the girls egos and being thirsty. Me personally I don't do online like that I still hit on ladies from time to time.

[WhitneySnow]

This is an exaggeration. Men still hold most of the power in the world.

[chris_987]

Power? Maybe a small minority of men like 1 or 2 percentage, the rest of them are struggling hence why they give girls money just to talk to them

[Juxtapose]

The old guys in suits, yeah. But not us regular guys.

[MzAsh]

This is nature and how it has always designed to be.

[chris_987]

No social media flip everything, if women wanted attention from men, they had to seek it out by going outside, nowadays you can just go online and feel like you have a lot of options and get that self esteem boost. I've been around before social media and onlyfans, and I remember when girls would complain about where to meet men.

[MzAsh]

Before, women were hit on at the grocery store, walking out to the mailbox, school, work, everywhere. It’s the same, just now online.

[chris_987]

Online access to billions of people is not the same as your local guy that hits on every girl. Lol

[MzAsh]

Ok but I mean the same could be said for men who have the same access. This doesn’t have to do with social media as much as it had to do with the natural sexual dynamics between men and women.

[chris_987]

Men don't have access to getting attention from girls, they have access talk to a girl that now gets attention from millions of men, so its not the same at all, men are at disadvantage now because of it

[MzAsh]

Women were always advantage, by nature. Now, social media highlights this on a more global scale.

[chris_987]

No it was more balanced when I was growing up, when MySpace and all these other early social media site started coming up. You could message a random girl and she would take you seriously because online dating wasn't a thing and your average girls wasn't getting the attention women are getting now. Hell my sister is 15 and she'll get 900 messages in one day from total strangers, when I was 15 no girls had access to that level of attention.

[MzAsh]

Online dating was definitely a thing before MySpace. I briefly participated in it during that era. There was match. com, matchmaker, meet me, lava life, e harmony, etc. From 1999 into 2005. And yea, I got many messages a day vs men who didn’t.

[chris_987]

And that was a website where you had to sign up and this was back when online dating was shamed, now you can just swipe right and the most high status peice of flesh you see

[MzAsh]

And about your kid sister, we also have a problem with pedophilia that has also always been around but is now highlighted due to social media.

[chris_987]

Lol you do know that women like you are part of the problem. Think about it this way. I just told you that the world is messed up because men are giving up there attention to women to quickly and that causes men to be Lonely and take there aggression out on society. And instead of you agree and try to see what we can do change it. You just disregard it by saying it been happening for centuries. That exactly why I don't feel sympathy for women who complain about men.

[MzAsh]

You’re extremely blame shifting and you lack basic comprehension and communication skills. If you have a problem with the lack of female attention, try looking inward.

[chris_987]

So you don't agree that men are really thirsty more than before

[MzAsh]

I’m not sure. I think men have more avenues to express themselves freely than before.

[chris_987]

Well I don't know how me pointing out that guys are doing worst with girls because they show too much attention means I'm blame shifting. I literally said guys need to relax and stop showing girls so much attention. Simp culture is really a thing

[MzAsh]

You’re asking men to go against their nature.

[chris_987]

No there just not aware that women don't respect men when they make it to easy to get them

[MzAsh]

Men pursue. Women select. Women are the ones who are to be hard to get. Not the other way around.

[chris_987]

Nope back in the day women had to change in order to attract a man, nowadays they don't because men will sleep with any women no matter what

[MzAsh]

Only foolish women were changing to attract a man. Women were designed beautifully for a reason.

[chris_987]

No it was socially acceptable to change so you could get a man, how else would you survive

[MzAsh]

What are some specific examples of this?

[chris_987]

Educate training, article about how to attract a man from the 1950's, hell just watch shows from that era and you'll see that women tried to actively attractive men and it wasn't something to be a shamed

[MzAsh]

They also demanded hard labor out of high earning men. My grandmother was the dominant but she totally *seemed* to submit. Their marriage was nothing I’d aspire to. She was still pretty miserable.

[MzAsh]

However, I understand your complaint. Women have the option advantages in dating and relationships. My question is, what are you going to do about it?

[chris_987]

Nothing, I was just wondering if men are realizing that girls only do better if they feel like it's hard to get attention from men, the most submissive girls I know went to all girls school. So it makes sense when you are not used to getting male attention all the time your respect men more.

[MzAsh]

So in other words creating a scarcity mentality in her. I remember those days. Nothing good came of it.

[chris_987]

I don't see nothing wrong with girls having a scarcity mindsets, guys are the ones willing to die for women so all your gonna do is make guys better if you actually care about them.

[MzAsh]

That hasn’t been my experience.

[chris_987]

You went to all girls school?

[MzAsh]

No, I used to have a scarcity mentality. I attracted poor quality guys who were trying to play me and take me for a fool. And I tolerated way more bs than I should have because I thought I couldn’t get anyone else. But I didn’t realize how many other options I actually had.

[MzAsh]

It’s actually one of the main pillars of what I coach around today: kicking the scarcity mindset and helping women realize the abundance of options they have and vet men for long term relationships.

[chris_987]

I disagree, if a girls was to at least try and I liked her back I wouldn't take advantage of that, a lot girls go after guys that don't like them and it's obvious there gonna get abused

[MzAsh]

Maybe you wouldn’t, but too many other men already do. It’s too risky for women. Right now, the sexual options go to high earning men. And guess what, studies indicated that high earning men (men who have options) are more likely to cheat.

[chris_987]

So how are you helping women if there gonna get with men that cheat anyways

[MzAsh]

I help them get with humble and loyal men.

[chris_987]

But how do you stop a girl from wanting a cheater

[MzAsh]

That usually requires building up her self worth and self respect. I’m not a therapist but I do what I can in my realm of expertise. And I help them partner with a therapist if that’s what they need.

[chris_987]

Do you help men or just women

[MzAsh]

I can help men too if they’re a good fit.

[chris_987]

What do you mean by a good fit

[MzAsh]

A good fit usually means they have a specific goal oriented coaching request, are ready to take accountability, take action, make the financial and time investment, without blaming or making excuses.

[chris_987]

Oh so your like a life coach

[MzAsh]

Yeah but I focus on relationships

[chris_987]

Ok good for you, and your relationship life is what you learn from to guide other too success?

[MzAsh]

Yeah, partially. I also draw from industry research.

[chris_987]

Lol maybe you should start a YouTube channel and spread your message

[MzAsh]

I’m mostly on Instagram but I might branch out to YouTube.

[chris_987]

Yeah you could spread your message a lot broader and do live call in shows

[SnakeBoop]

Congraulations on a troll of the day award :)

[Sevenpointfive]

that's not even a question

[Guy13]

WTF ❓❓❓⁉️