Why do so many men (particularly among the MGTOW crowd) believe that women don't like to take responsibility for their own actions?

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When has this claim  ever  been true? It's nonsense. The inability or unwillingness to recognise the fact that actions have consequences isn't something that can be exclusively attributed to just women; men can be just as reckless, and when they  are  reckless they tend to take it to an extreme (ex. the disproportionate number of men who are incarcerated compared to women).

TonyV · Accepted Answer

Cause a lot don't, I'm not dating all, and like you said, I realize some men do too.

Women seem to be more prone to just abandoning a friendship when you tell them a hard truth that don't want to hear.

I don't know, trying to ignore all the biased social media I've seen and just judge based on close friends I geuss it's a tie. I know a guy who was super proud of how many half drunk bar chicks he could bang but then was shocked and buttheart later when he couldn't find a real relationship, so he did that to himself and is now sad and won't admit hookups don't equal anything real longterm, he's just " over women for now"

And I know a girl who broke down crying as we drove her home asking " why aren't I good enough?" Cause the guy she brought last week did "I used you, brought you to that party to make another girl jealous", then ignored her texts, theeeen told her she's just a one stand to him to hurt her feelings cause he didn't get what he wanted in time... then yesterday she brought him back there and she seems so happy, even tho he had her a crying mess.
She also won't stop talking about a random ex. So I already know when this blows up again she's gonna play the victim instead of realizing she never should have given him a second, third, and forth chance.

My girlfriends older friend also pushes men away and just blames men in general.

Why when women have so many options do they always go for men that are obviously trash? Well it's obvious they're trash to us other guys at least.

MrHopper · Accepted Answer

MGTOW is still a thing? My general take on them is that its men who are unable to understand that they are most likely the cause of whatever it is that has brought them into this situation, its like when people split up they will always blame the other person rather than accept it might have been their fault too.

About 20 years ago i was in a mindstate similar to "MGTOW" as its known today and thats where my understanding comes from, i broke free when i realised it was me who was at fault

JustAnj · Accepted Answer

@Exterminatore isn't that more of a government issue then a woman trying to intentionally not be responsible? Also I was going to enlist but my brother told me no that my husband needed me and if we had kids they would need me. He instead took the draft. They were enforcing this on women too. I was planning to anyway but my brother was right and would feel horrible knowing I left my husband distraught with children unnecessarily. He did not want me to either.

@Anonymous

Sadly this applies to men and women not just women. Thier is mature and immature people in this world that equally do not understand responsibility and it's importance. I feel horrible for the mature people who fall for these types but I know they will pull through.

For the movie situation what in the hell you talking about not popular. Terminator is badass and Alien was overated but I might give it a second chance if the second movie is better, Charlie's Angels is also badass. Women enjoy action movies so it's kinda weird that you posted that. Lol

SkyCastle90 · Accepted Answer

In a nutshell, misogynist/MGTOW refuse to mature and learn to understand the people around them (men and women), but instead make their wellbeing the responsibility of others, thus making it a woman's job to not only pick the right guy, but pick HIM as the right guy. It's a contradicting situation because the right guy does not generalize women, but instead make the individual responsible for their bad actions and do better to pick out the right partner for next time. Misogynist begin to hate women, while MGTOW avoid women, both are unhealthy options.

D_Bone_Steak · Answer

Can you imagine being a MGTOW type dude, that's dealt with plenty of bullshit women not taking responsibility for jack shit that they do (and getting away with it because... WOMAN), and then reading this opinion that it's nonsense? iT JUST DOESN'T EXIST!!! Can you imagine that? Or, are the MGTOW people also right about solipsism and how these women can't imagine what it's like from a dude's shoes?

I watched my own mother pull that shit, so I don't know where you come off with that "When has this claim ever been true?" bullshit. Here's what I think about it... both male and females do the shit... females just tend to get away with it more often. They get a free pass... so it happens more often from their side of the aisle. It's not really a Male/female thing! It's just a "who gets a free pass for doing it" thing. I mean don't the difference in how we get punished for crimes say anything to back me up? How about divorce courts? Woman can be fucked up on drugs and can't hold down a job, but she'll get the kids, the money, and still end up killing her kids. Not understanding this... solipsism.

Anonymous · Answer

I think there's a general feeling among most men that women don't and that society as a whole does not hold women accountable for the wrong that they do in comparison to men. In my opinion this is generally true and honestly there has been instances in the past where I myself did not take responsibility for my actions because I didn't have to.

ChrisMaster69 · Answer

Mainly due to a large number appear to be complete fuckwits.

i understand wanting to do your own thing.

however it’s like some idiot who says they are leaving, then stands at the door saying they are leaving but never actually just fucking off.

had never heard of the MEOW lot until joined GaG, then realised it’s just a pile of bitch hurt guys who likely struggle in the real world with other people never mind women.

The amount of actual hate a number come out with is fairly staggering.

ADFSDF1996 · Answer

Femicommies/feminists do the same to men by assuming all men suffer from a pseudoscientific condition known as “toxic masculinity”.

Femicommies assume only men are capable of being “violent”, “egotistical” “drunk”, “sleazy” and “abusive” when there are also women who exhibit those same traits.

In fact I know women who’ve told me they prefer the company of men because they’ve been constantly disrespected and or mistreated by other women who have authoritarian positions or see them as competition.

Most of us men actually respect women, it’s usually women who don’t respect each other. Just look at this.

crossdressingrihno · Answer

It's the modern cycle of politics.

I don't know if you know about hegelian dialectics or not but if you don't then I suggest you read about it.

In general I think hegelian dialectics has the right idea as to how politics works however I'd argue that in the modern day there's like this new crazier more unstable version of hegelian dialectics at play which I shall call the modern cycle of politics or MCP.

Anyways due to MCP and how unstable it is a lot of interesting things have come out of the works including modern feminism as well as that group that you mentioned. With so many different political groups interacting with each other and rather destructive ways you get splinter factions of these political groups and they continuously fight each other and splinter apart and join in other political factions just all over the place leaving us with some very interesting and very controversial political views.

Table4YTwo · Answer

because there are women being arrested for lying about being raped when they got drunk because sexually aggressive then denied it out of fear of being singled out or something

Its a fucked up situation, women pick fights with guys all the time and then don't take responsibility for their own actions leading to the ass whooping.

You ever look into how many women in social media vs men make half assed apology videos for doing some real fucked up shit only after they lost a large portion of their fanbase?

MikeInHawaii · Answer

I’m a lifelong non-drinker and lived in a zoo fraternity house for four years. The day after a party, I would hear men saying “I got drunk” and women saying “You (or they) got me drunk!”

I once asked a female friend to clarify how I was responsible for her behavior. She angrily said “You never stopped me!”

I once sat her down and had the most uncomfortable conversation of my life about her drinking problem, and the promiscuity problem that went hand-in-hand with her drinking. I never hog tied her to stop her from drinking, though.

TheSpaceGnome · Answer

Mgtow is for retards just as feminism is, they are just cults for hating on a gender.

Most people in general refuse to take responsibility for anything when they aren't forced to, but the resson it's more common in women, is men put up with bullshit more.

This is because the bulk of society expects us to provide everything in a relationship, and to have zero expectations, feelings, or needs.

Also we are blamed for everything, even if it was the woman's fault at the time. Many women have learned to abuse this situation.

Women are more often guiltlessly irresponsible because men are more often expected to be the responsible party.

LogicBomber · Answer

Women always blame men for shit when they get caught making stupid choices.
This is true especially in the sexual bubble.

If she cheats, it’s his fault

If she fucks a random dude and gets in shit by her father or partner... the guy “raped” her, she was “to drunk”, he took advantage... etc
.
If she gets pregnant... ABORT IT.
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But if a female commits a crime it is also often blamed on a male, “He forced me”, “I was manipulated”, he brained washed me... etc
.
If a female kills her partner, they instantly go to the “it was self defence”, “He was abusive” etc
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If she kills her kids... “It was depression”, It was hormones...
.
This is obviously not all females... but it is enough of the majority to be the standard.

Anonymous · Answer

I don’t particularly identify with mgtow, but I’m sympathetic as I’ve watched friends and family go through the court system. Notably, my sisters ex through their divorce. While I supported my sister through the divorce to the point of losing my friendship with her ex, it became clear in the years since that she lied to the court and was equally if not more responsible as her ex-husband for the failed marriage, but played the victim and took absolutely no responsibility. And still to this day does not. She takes advantage of our parents and projects all of her failures on everyone else while she rakes in child support, drinks a bottle of wine every night, orders everything she wants on Amazon but can't afford to pay rent.
This is a consistent theme in our society. Men are often the same but there is zero sympathy and are just discarded onto the streets as homeless or in prison.

Anonymous · Answer

Because it IS true. Just like you won't take accountability and apologize for this insensitive post -dismissing men who have had real life experiences.

Nobody is saying that men can't be shit, we have just as many shitty men as we do shitty women, but the difference is that everyone hates those men (just look at how incels get treated as if they are barely human. You honestly believe that misandrist receive that same backlash?)... it's socially acceptable for women to be bad people. Hell, it's even seen as empowering for women to shit on men.

Gent207 · Answer

I am probably not the only one that had to look up what MGTOW means. One again a classic example of a group of bad apples does not represent the bunch.
Also nice stick figure argument that completely dismisses the women that have been convicted of mass murder, rape, sexual exploitation, human trafficking etc.
The two queens of such atrocities in my view are: The Bitch of Buchenwald and Ghislaine Maxwell.

dynamicyandere · Answer

Racism, misogyny, and misandry all stem from someone having a bad experience or multiple bad experiences with a particular race or gender, and then generalizing it to apply to an entire race or gender.

Meanwhile, rallying together with other people with similar experiences to strengthen their confirmation bias.

This is how hate groups are formed. It’s a mob mentality born out of oversimplification and lack of critical thinking and self awareness.

FilmGuy93 · Answer

We think it because we see it happening constantly. Women are constantly blame shifting, rationalizing things, refusing to accept responsibility for their actions. The fact that fewer women are in jail than men just means that courts tend to sentence women lighter.

Zeus_66 · Answer

Had to look the acronym up... Maybe what the acronym means is the reason why. Pretty silly if you ask me. PEOPLE regardless of gender tend to have problems with accountability. It is sewn into our culture, sadly. Let's get our values back on track, and you'll see accountability rise.

CourtneyJane2 · Answer

Because MGTOWs and Incels are immature, entitled brats themselves. That whole scene runs on misogyny, so they prescribe any and all negative trait to the women that won't sleep with them.

Freyke · Answer

It does not apply to women as a whole but some women. Or society who lets those same women get away with some things when they shouldn't. SIENNA MAE, there is a video of her touching a guy inappropriately while he's passed out or about to pass out. There is a video of it... and she's still walking free. No justice. If the roles were reversed guy doing the same thing to a girl passed out, just the same video, same actions. I do not think he would have been treated the same.

Anonymous · Answer

I think the most important point as others have said is that people generally dont like to take any responsibility, for anything.

But if you want an example of how women specifically avoid responsibility, what comes to my mind would be the way in which women tend to persue their goals through proxies.

motownplayer2000 · Answer

Incarceration is the consequence. They are being held accountable. Not all women, but most especially those associated with any feminist movement which is a good majority, tend to blame men for almost everything. And not take responsibility for there actions. That’s why they formed that. I don’t personally believe MGTOW is a thing. I honestly think it’s stupid. Don’t need a movement to countact a different movement that’s all trash to begin with. Just people being human and doing stupid shit.

AmysQs5 · Answer

Not very familiar with MGTOW, but I think most people don't like to take responsibility for their own actions. Maybe if they're blaming women of that, it's proof that the MGTOW crowd also doesn't take responsibility for their actions lmao

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