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I meet a girl have a good convo get her instagram. Start following her story then a few days later ask her on a date. She’ll generally not answer or say no but keep watching my story and like expect me to do the same? Wtf why would I keep watching the story of someone who won’t hang out with me? Yet literally like 99% of women do this? What would the top G do? Advice needed please
You're probably not getting to know them first before you ask them out. Girls are cautious with guys because the scale of men runs from "shy nervous introvert that won't provide good conversation" to "crazy gun nut that talks about how women should have less rights and being happy that Roe v Wade being overturned is pissing off a lot of women". They need a baseline of trust with you before they even think of committing to spending a day with you. They still check out your stories because after you pop the question, they wonder "maybe this guy isn't so bad, I'm being too harsh, I'll check out his life". Instagram stories can give a beautiful window into the chaos of your life, but you get to decide what content you post and how you post it. So I recommend always becoming friends with these women and having a few pleasant conversations before asking them to hang out, because rest assured there's 20 other guys out there who just view their profile and are already in their DM's asking to bang.
Ok so why do they expect me to view their story too then? And why won’t they do a video call with me? And why won’t they answer my messages?
They want you to put in as much effort to chase them as possible. They want to know that you're not another slimebag that wants to use them for their bodies, but actually get to know them. It takes a lot of trust for a woman to agree to such things with someone they barely know. Women can also lose interest in a person too, and instead of telling you they don't like you or are bored, they just don't reply. It's just the way things are. Women just don't trust men as much anymore.
So they want a simp is what it sounds like? “Actually get to know them?” By not talking to them or hanging out with them how am I supposed to get to know them? So how about just not fucking me and still going on a date with me? Why keep viewing my story if they don’t like me anymore?
No, they want a decent guy that knows what they're doing with their life and can squeeze them into that schedule. They don't want to risk having to take care of an adult baby, or worse, an abuser. You have to present your best self and be able to pull their interest. I am strictly talking about finding relationships. Friendships are easy, most girls are looking to not be bored and all you have to do is be funny, personable and understanding. The bar is literally set so low for men that doing the same things that other dudes do will put you at that floor. You have to be unabashedly yourself and not fear when women reject you.
If u ask our a girl and she says no yet u continue to chase her in hopes of changing her mind u r a simp. That’s the literal definition
Ok but 95-99% of girls do this yet still are obviously attracted to me so what gives?
Much lower than that. guys can't keep it in their pants, but girls get an initial level of attraction for a guy, and can easily lose it if a guy breaks the process of getting to know them first. They might think you're cute to look at, but if you're not vibing with them, they could get picked up by a less attractive guy that actually gives them attention. You got the first part down, but you're probably just missing that personal connection with them first. You stand out more if you act your own silly self and match their energy rather than just being handsome/attractive and nothing else.
Reiterating that women generally experience much more assholes in men than men do in women. So generally women are much less likely to be trustworthy of men because any handsome man could turn into a crazy nightmare. It's up to you to figure out who you are and what kind of women you want to attract, and how you want to present yourself. You could be an asshole and attract some people, but there's a saying that goes " You can attract more bees with honey than vinegar". The people that are attracted by assholes and cocky people may not be the best people, but the people that you genuinely form connections to and treat respectfully are the ones that you will be happiest in the long term.
I'm not into Instagram but I think the best way is always to meet in person and go out on dates. It's so much better than hiding behind a keyboard. That's what I would recommend is to try and meet them in person. I think you're more likely to get women with this method than by using Instagram.
But I try that and they don’t respond and want to follow each other All day instead
Try working on your game and approach. There's lots of Youtube videos that can help but don't overdo it. Take the key points from each and apply them. Women love a guy with a sense of humor so start with that first. If you can make them laugh, that's half the battle.
Yeah but all PUAs say that they have terrible results like 1-5% success rate at best which is about where I’m at. So I don’t think it’s gonna work. The fundamental problem is the way women approach dating and their total lack of understanding of men. There’s nothing that can change that.
That is a good point. I have read a lot on this lately and you are totally right. The dating world is terrible right now because of what you said and there are unrealistic expectations that make it difficult for men. However, there are still some good women out there but now the key is in finding them. That part is even worse because dating sites favor women and that's another road block for guys. It's almost like you have to go door to door in search of one. I wish I could give you a golden ticket idea, but to me, I think being in front of them is better than online. Sometimes it helps to belong to clubs, groups or a good church where you can meet like minded people get to know someone.
Fun fact, maybe she just swiped ig stories of her friends on home and it including yours as well
But she stops looking at my story when I stop looking at hers?
How do u know she stops?
U can see who views ur story on instagram
Exactly! Even we just swipe and tap tap our friends stories and dont really mean to watch what the stories are, we still saw them as a view right
Thats what i meant
Yes she is ur viewers.. but who knows if she just glanced the story by swiped and taps friends stories.. thats happened a lot
Then why does she only stop viewing my story when I stop viewing hers?
So u both are no longer viewers at each others?
Correct
People do that because that's what Instagram is for.
Ok but here’s what I don’t get. I met a girl I get their insta. A few days later I shoot them a message, they ignore it or answer but won’t want to hang out with me. Yet they still view my story and like expect me to view theirs cuz when I stop viewing their story they stop viewing mine. It’s like they expect me to simp over them. Why would I keep up with the story of someone who won’t hang out with me in person? Yet like literally 99% of girls do this. Do I just ignore them and go for the like 1% of women who don’t do this?
I don’t follow people on instagram just to follow them ya know? Like what is this. I swear women expect men to simp at this point
Ok and If I meet them in person first? Obviously there is an expectation that we will be in person friends. Wtf r u even talking about? Women are undateable because they don’t get basic shit like this
So if I meet a girl at a club or a bar or school or wherever I compliment their outfit we talk for a bit I get their instagram a few days later I message them to set up a date and they ignore my message that’s what I’m talking about. I swear ur being dense in purpose this is extremely simple
If my friends ignore my messages and refuse to hang out with me in person yes 110% I do not keep following their socials. Why would I? Honestly I don’t even really follow my friends instagrams I mostly just use it for messaging and reels. I don’t know where on earth so many women get this expectation that I blindly follow the social of someone who will not speak to me let alone hang out in person. It’s actual insanity
And when I say follow I mean like view their story and like their posts
Yes? I’m not friends with someone if we don’t hang out in person. Like that’s what a friend is. I don’t have imaginary hypothetical friends I have real friends that I do real things with. I also don’t view the story of 99% of people on my instagram. I don’t see how u can possibly argue that I should be viewing the story of 100+ different women who I hardly know if at all know while they refuse to hang out with me in person or do a video call with me.
A follower=\= a friend
It’s like women expect me to treat them like my friend and don’t expect to have to treat me like their friend.
Women don't expect you to treat them like a friend. They don't expect you to talk to them and ask them to go out places. You're getting mad that these girls aren't treating you like a friend, when you are not a friend. You're a follower. That's my point, so thank you for pointing that out. Maybe you talk to your friends every day on there, but you certainly do not talk to every single one of your followers everyday invite them places. So why should these women?
Because these women are obviously attracted to me, that’s why. And that’s fine I have no problem not being treated like a friend, but then we’re never dating and that’s what women don’t seem to get.
Oh yeah cuz when they find out I don’t want to date them anymore they seem to get very upset so don’t give me this bs. Keep trying to justify complete nonsense that women do and see where it gets all of us. Conversations like this seriously make me understand why women haven’t had rights through most of history. U guys don’t really seem to have the basic common sense required for that, which is extremely depressing but I’m just saying.
I thought you said that they ignore you in you ask them to go on a date? "Seem to get very upset" according to someone who is clearly very poor at understanding social cues is not a very compelling argument. But whatever dude, keep doing what you're doing, since the ladies like you so much according to yourself, maybe eventually a girl will agree to go on a date with you.
U can try however u want to make this make sense but it never will. Ur willfullly ignorant and I can’t change that. It doesn’t make sense on any level and it never will no matter what crazy way u try to explain it away. If they are not interested why tf r they viewing my story? And why does me not viewing their story cause them to stop viewing mine. U can’t explain that. It’s clearly cuz they want attention and delusionally think that me simping over them proves my interest. It’s delusional
Why r they viewing my story then and why r they obviously hitting on me in person etc? And ok so ur saying most women do just want to waste my time and turn me into their simp? Wow so u admit it finally after this whole convo… ur not making women sound like perfect little angels. Sure ur ok?
I don’t use instagram to collect followers and neither do any of My friends that I know of so I wouldn’t say that’s what instagram is for
I never made them sound like perfect angels, I'm just pointing out that most people don't add followers on Instagram because they actually care about them. Which includes you, despite the fact that you were insinuating the opposite. You can say that you regularly DM every one of your followers on instagram, but if you have more than 10 followers that would just make you a blalant liar. Also viewing a story does not mean anything, most girls just flip it through them at light speed to get rid of the notification.
I don’t message everyone on my instagram. Ur not understanding. So if I meet a random person at a bar and get their insta it’s assumed I’m trying to be their follower and not their friend? What kind of logic is that? And if that’s true as I’ve said over and over again why do they follow my story and get mad when I stop following them back? I’ve had women who do this admit they like me. Ur doing some serious mental gymnastics rn to make this make sense
Ur being intentionally dense about a female behavior that very clearly doesn’t make sense
Well to be fair @LazerBean , I have experience women who been pissed off at me because I haven't looked at their Instagram story when I followed them after they followed back.
But that's only because throughout my life, more girls approached me because of my appearance. I guess so called "hot guys" like me not giving certain girls attention seem to piss them off. And if you are wondering how I know they were angry becauseofthe story, they dm me asking why I follow them to begin with but not care about getting to know them (something like that, with them eventually mentioning their stories). One girl even accused me of being gay. The story (no pun intended) gets very long lol.
But most girls get angry at "guys", who they find attractive, when they don't give them attention.
Did my reply helped either one of you?
@Deed211 right? I swear this is a thing and I’m not crazy. Maybe these women don’t outright get mad but u can def tell they want me to view their story
@LazerBean see it’s not just me that is experiencing this.
@LazerBean Lol yeah, its healthy to be picky girl 👍. I do it all the time, After being chased all my life by tons of girls/ women. I tend to have more options. Which made me become very picky about my women lol. An example is, of 100s of girls in my inbox, I tend to only dm like 2 or 3. Sometimes 1.
But yeah, desperate female behavior rarely gets reported. It's just more men are reported as they tend to be open. On the flipside, hot guys with a lot of options tend to be repressed/ not shown in the media, usually by the girls for some reason. As a result, stuff like this with girls getting angry because of Instagram stories don't get well known.
An example from me is, I posted a reply to a girl who ranted about men being THE desperate ones, and NOT the women. Obviously I gave some examples of girls being desperate for me and next day later, my reply was deleted. 🤷♂️
I replied with the same comment and it got deleted again. Example of repression. It sucks but that's the society we live in.
But yeah, be picky!!! It means you have options
Did my reply help both @LazerBean and @Gangactivities911 ?
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I personally watch all my friends on IG stories when I'm bored lol I don't believe that means anything really. Any girl who rejects me gets blocked. She was clearly just wanting another follower, no point in that. I just get a chick's snap or number.
You are going too much. Give and get the basics. Know her in person and then go digital. You have it backwards. You are too easy snd make no demands on another. Do it the old fashion way first…
Ok what if I meet her at a place where it’s unlikely I’ll see her again or what if she asks for my social?
Or what if I find her on instagram or tinder or wherever. 99% of girls I see in a day I’m not gonna see again
Do u ask them out in person?
So best to do as little communication over the phone as possible and try to do everything in person?
I would only say no and keep watching stories if I want to know more about you before coming to a conclusion.
That makes sense to me but what doesn’t is why is it then that with most of these girls if I stop watching their story they also stop watching mine?
But I asked them on a date? Why would they think I’m gonna sit there and follow them back and forth when I hardly know them and they won’t hang out with me? If a guy I met did that I’d do the same thing ya know?
Sonny, you seriously are thick as shit, if you think that's how you get pussy.
I feel like they just want attention bro. That’s why I deleted all of that shit tbh.. fuck it. I don't know what a top g would do though they probably have hella chicks lined up tbh
Can like 95-99% of women really just want attention and why is it that a lot of them if I ply that game they will go on a date with me eventually? I agree tho it totally seems like they’re an attention whore
Bro I honestly don’t even know wtf is up with them it’s honestly weird af. When we say this they get defensive and say that we hate them and shit but it’s honestly not the case bro. Like I can see you’re legitimately trying to figure this shit out like I am and this entire discussion with LazerBean below is just crazy man. Like wtf are we supposed to do? I’m not mad it’s just that I’m confused and frustrated. They seem interested and talk.. we get the ig…and then it’s like they just want someone to keep sending them hearts. Like wtf is that?
Yeah I don’t fucking understand and it drives me up a fucking wall dude. Like do I ignore them? Do I play this game til one of them goes on a date? Idgi. I remember my ex when we decided we could both go on tinder and talk to other people she would do this same bs with all the guys on there. Like she would keep talking to one guy and refuse to meet up for as long as the guy would go for it. And then when I point out that’s insane she’s say well I wanna know that he actually likes me. Yet then her next boyfriend she stayed over at his house after 2 hours of meeting him in person. Sooo I really do think it’s just attention but I don't know cuz sometimes it doesn’t seem that way. It’s weird af
Yeah man that’s some bullshit tbh. If I hit 30 without a decent prospect I’m just gonna get a foreign bride and a prenup. I’m honestly over these chicks
Step 1:
Stop trying to pick up girls on Instagram
These are girls I know irl too mostly
I don't know they’re weird. Stop getting their instagrams do text get their number instead.
Also bruh women haven’t had rights cause we have a physical disadvantage. Men could take it away again if they wanted. You seem misogynistic I read that reply 😭
What’s going on now? Yeah I agree getting the number is better for sure
I don’t subscribe to this idea that men have oppressed women throughout all of history cuz men hate women. I think that is sexist garbage tbh
I don't know why men have oppressed women I think it’s just cause they could and still can if they wanted. But I don’t blame people for seeing it as hatred because it did encourage the hated of women with all these bad stereotypes, bad names for women, abuse, etc. You saying you “understand” why we didn’t have rights is fucked up. I “understand” why black people were slaves cause they do xyz. I “understand” why men can’t find partners as easy cause they’re so xyz. It’s so dumb. Whatever I got offended by that but you obviously are set in your ways. Yes Just stop asking for instagram.
What you said is sexist garbage I see so much misogyny it’s tiring
If a guy I’m seeing said that I’d break up lmao
The world is a harsh brutal place it would be unfair to expect someone who isn’t physically capable in this world to be able to understand this and act accordingly to it. I think women like children need to be lied to on at least some level as to how this world works for their own emotional health. I know u think I hate women but I really don’t. See this is what mean u come to these toxic man hating conclusions like women have been oppressed all throughout history cuz men hate women. And that’s just so toxic and rude it’s hard to put into words. Like logically I shouldn’t like u for conclusions like that but instead I think ur just confused and emotionally driven. Men don’t hate women ok? Men have never hated women as the norm throughout any period or place in history. If anything misogyny is more common today than it’s ever been, odd right? Women hate men not the other way around. Look at how u view men like we all oppressors who hate women and want them to suffer for no reason. That’s just not based in reality.
The reason women haven’t had rights in virtually every culture and time period is cuz they were not seen to be as capable or responsible as men not because men hate women and want a house slave.
And like I was really hoping all these changes in technology namely guns would change this game and allow feminism to exist but like I don't know women are proving that otherwise.
I can’t believe you don’t understand how women could be insulted by a man saying we’re between a child and a man. Like… that’s literally insulting. I’m sorry but you are misogynistic. You’re saying things that woman haters would. And yes men have hated women wtf look at history and the torture they’ve put women through. Look at countries where women don’t have freedom. That is hatred. They rape, beat, trap, verbally abuse women and that’s not hate? Wow
I’m just happy I live in this time where I have freedom cause this shit isn’t guaranteed in the future because men like you “understand” why we wouldn’t have it.
And that’s just not true that we aren’t capable and responsible.
Raping beating and verbally abusing women have never been socially acceptable or really legal. I’m not saying society has always been 100% fair with women but this idea all men throughout history have collectively joined together to systematically oppress women is nonsense. But what I am saying is that men need to stop placing women on a pedestal. Let’s take a toll of what feminism has done to society. So currently because women have “equal rights” really they have more rights but we won’t get into that. Our birth rate is now negative, most people under 30 today are projected to never marry or get divorced, we have like $30 trillion dollars of debt mostly because of reckless liberal spending which again we can debate all day but that’s a fact, there has never been a greater disconnect between the genders as there is now, men aren’t even like allowed to have standards in the dating market without harsh judgment from women, voices that lots of men like and want to hear like trump and Tate get systematically banned from social media. It’s like I’m not opposed to women having equal rights and I genuinely want that but women have to be responsible with those rights because not only is it unfair to men but like literally feminism is collapsing our society before our very eyes and women don’t really seem to care. Them being able to fuck whoever they want whenever they want is more important than the stability of our society. I really hope time will change my mind but experience has taught me at this point that women really don’t like responsibility but are also the first ones to complain that they don’t have enough freedom. U can’t have it both ways if u want freedom u have to be responsible with it.
Can’t be mad at that. Though most of those things you listed is just the rich exploiting the working class lol not feminism. Look at other countries with equal rights they aren’t doing as bad as us. I agree there are many women who are fuckin freaks lmao they make us all look bad 😭 and I don’t agree with Andrew or Trumps bans even though I don’t agree with them. We should all be able to speak our mind. Women shouldn’t be on a pedestal I agree I make things as equal as possible in my relationships. Welp I don’t like a lot of what you’ve said but I take back you hating women I don’t think you do. Have a good day I’m going to work. thankful that I have the freedom of having my own bank account 😂😂
These are instagram models?
No girls I met in public
Seems like they aren't serious and are only trying to build a following.
Like it’s weird cuz they def seem attracted to me so I don’t think it’s purely for followers but I also think maybe they just like the attention I don't know
We can only go by what you are saying. When I was your age I thought all kinds of women were attracted to me too. I think I divorced in my early thirties and started dating again. But I only started attracting women when I started dating more women. I would date, then just move to the next one. The ones who were actually attracted to me made attempts to be apart of my life.
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