Why women are so naive when it comes to men?

[Factual_person]

They are completely clueless at detecting bad men and stick to them like flies to feces

[loveslongnails]

Reading the comments, I think it's sadly humorous to see the male vs female war rooms at work. It's quite clear, at least to me, that there' are a lot of things going on and both of the headlining issues here have validity.

There are indeed men who get rejected for whatever reasons and blame the woman for being short-sighted, or unable to see what a nice guy they are, blah, blah. Many of these men do indeed think they have no shortcomings and that any and every woman should want them. Yes, there are these men. You can declare them incels, or MGTOW's, or whatever you like, it's irrelevant.

There are also indeed women who say they want an honest, respectful man who has characteristics A, B, C, et. al, but has to be exciting and have "just the right amount of bad boy" to their liking, whatever that is. Similarly, some (or perhaps many) of these women get focused on the "bad boy" part and overlook the lack of the A, B, C, D part, only to find this out later. Calling them inept at character judgement is a bit harsh; they made an error.

My point is that both things happen, and there are a LOT more reasons for it what you see on the surface, and to summarily write either side off as the villain is truly non-productive.

[TonyMetal___1986]

Some sh*tty women likes sh*tty men becsuse they are the same, but a good girl who was attracted to the wrong guy ain't he fault if the guy had bad intentions and was acting all along on the girl just to receive what he wants and than dump her to go behind another victim!

Same as gold diggers, she makes a man fall for her just so that she can suck all his money and grants her all her wishes and when he's done, she's like f*ck off, who's next?

The big problem is that this sick behavior can strike any gender, it's like a disease!

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

What a stupid take. The real question is why are so many men out there manipulative enough to trick women into dating them/having sex with them? Why aren't those men being called out? Instead the blame is put on women because we couldn't tell it was a lie.

I actually fully agree with what SueShe said here too. Guys who blame women for this kind of thing are usually the guys who are just upset they aren't as good at getting sexual favors from women with their personality. They call out women and say we are only into "bad boys" when the truth is that vulnerable women are manipulated by guys who are liars and at times play the long game to get what they want from us.

[Factual_person]

Saying that women that date these types of guys are all being tricked is far from the truth, a few ones do get tricked, sure, but this relates to the question I made, why women can't see through their nonsense?
It heavily contradicts the "women's intuition" myth.

On the other hand, there is women who KNOW what they got themselves into.
They say stuff like "but he is not that bad" "I can fix him" and go for the same type of guy over and over again

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

Again, why are you once again blaming women for men's manipulative tactics?

And yeah, it's a myth. What's your point? We dont know everything but every human on this planet has some form of intuition or "gut feeling". It's based on trends we've seen and vibes we get. These guys act like they won't be an issue and spread the lies on thick on younger women who haven't experienced these kinds of things at the level it's at before.

That's another reason why these older guys that are my age want younger women. They prey on the innocent or have pedophilic thoughts.

[Factual_person]

As I said, some of them are manipulated, and others know what they getting into

[SueShe]

Yet another person that has made a bad experience and needs to vent about HIS inability to get a girl. Are you an incel or a MGTOW?

Those are about the only 2 options I see for your anger towards women. Could it also be that you created yet another account after all the previous ones were closed by GaG because you were having issues with women and needed to talk bad about them?

I believe it is a mix of both. Mostly though, you dislike women because you cannot get into their pants and they see right through you.

[Factual_person]

You don't know anything about me and anything regarding this topic.

[Jersey2]

It’s true. They suck at selecting partners. The funny part is they think they are great at it simply because they sift through so many that somehow it makes them feel like they are good at it. Divorce rates say otherwise though. Women initiate 70%+ of divorces. Yeah, they suck at it.

[OneViewpoint]

They aren't generally clueless. They are impulsive. They see the red flags but choose to ignore them or rationalize them so they can have Chad or Tyrone.

[OneViewpoint]

LOL, men do the same thing with toxic hot women. Guys know she's trouble on a silver platter but they are thinking with their dicks and telling themselves she's actually not a train wreck.

[Factual_person]

With guys it's a different dynamic most of the time, to types like that they usually just use them for sex then leave. Women get attached.

[Factual_person]

That's not always the case. Lots of them stay in relationships with loser bums. Women are more about emotions than looks.

[MartinKlingac]

I don’t think women are necessarily naive. Sometimes women simply choose to trust, love, and see the best in someone, even when they don’t deserve it.