Yet, guys are more than likely to be labeled by women as noncommittal or untrustworthy. To be fair, it has been said that guilty people scream the loudest... hmm.
Anyway, in your opinion, who cheats more in relationships, men or women? Why?
There is no loyalty left around us. There is no shame, no respect, no decency.
Unfortunately women are VERY likely to cheat and if confronted or others find out, they blame being weak, blame their (in) Significant other, blame the weather. Hell some will even say it's part of being independent these days and act like "yeah, whatever".
It's disgusting.
I went to uni. I know guys that would bang a diff one at 2 weeks intervals.(more or less). BUT they weren't in relationships and kept it that way. Everybody knew it.
On the other hand, girls that you made you say "god damn, that bf of hers is so lucky", proved to be massive cheaters.
One of them called me up at her home to help her move the new furniture she was getting.(she said he BF is gone for the weekend and doesn't want to wait for him).
i seriously didn't expect her to literally jump on me the minute i stepped in the house. I told her to calm down. I still feel sorry for the dude.
Another one would always bang some guy, even if she had one she was calling Boyfriend. One night she enters in my room, gets naked and gets under the cover and waits there. I told her to fuck off!
A girl (X) tells a guy in the group how some other girl (Y) is looking for sex and asks him if he is interested. This girl (X) that made the proposal, KNEW he already had a Gf (Z) and was good friends with her. And no the guy didn't have an "open" relationship.
A few years ago i was inclined to believe cheating is rare but unfortunately it is not.
i look around and feel disgusted as people smile when they hear someone cheated, they condone the behavior and sometimes even set someone up for cheating. These are the moments you realize how cheating is actually everywhere and done by everyone. So i'm seriously thinking to warn my next gf "if you want out, you can go, nobody forces you to stay, BUT if you cheat, you'll regret it your whole life".
I simply don't want to get attached to such a girl. Loyalty, trust.. are very important and i react very bad when someone messes with those. So i'd rather warn her she is in for a nasty surprise if she makes wrong steps.
If she thinks she'll going to cheat she'll back off, if she is trustworthy she'll stay. I'd rather be alone than find out after 5 years that she cheated.
Regarind your question: i think it's pretty equal. Men and women cheat in about the same proportions. For men though it's harder to conceal the cheating.
Would anyone mind if i'd say that 75% of men and women cheat. I guess that's the right number. I just have a feeling...
maybe up to 90% would cheat if knowing they will never get caught.
Well first off you'd have to define "cheating." Whenever people talk about cheating, it's always sexual. But people forget that sometimes other things sought outside of the relationship are "cheating" since they're supposed to be handled in the relationship. Like a guy can be getting hugs from another girl because he feels unloved and his girlfriend neglects him, but since there was no kissing and such, it doesn't get labeled as cheating.
Now I will say if we're defining cheating as sexual stuff, women easily would be much more guilty of it. I would say this simply because of the amount of "work" a guy would have to put in to get the chance to cheat. Women can walk into a bar, get free drinks, selfishly sponge a guy's attention while he stands there hoping she'll have sex with him, go home with him and have all the sex she wants. For a guy, it's one small comment that she doesn't want to hear and even though it'd have no impact on the actual sex, he's "lost his chances."
On top of that, I have a bit of a "history" sexually and still girls outnumber me when it comes to sex partners. I know a girl who is like... 19-20 and she's got more sexual partners than I do and I'm 29.
Actually, I've heard quite a few people speak of emotional affairs, especially on this site. No, they didn't specifically state that their situations involved emotional affairs, but regardless, that's what is was. As for your example, it's debatable. If a guy is feeling unloved and neglected by his girlfriend, could he not hug another girl for genuine support and comfort, as opposed to hugging her to fulfill a lack of affection of from his girlfriend? Do you feel that it would be acceptable if he hugged a guy instead?
As for your second paragraph, I agree, women, in general, have a easier time cheating than men.
Not going to lie; I have no experience being a cheater or cheated on. BUT I know that more guys that have been cheated on than have cheated.
From my understanding, women are less stereotyped as the cheater so they can get away with it easier. Partly because if a guy is having an affair with a married woman, he's getting some and is noncommittal but if a girl is having an affair with a married guy, she's a home-wrecking conniving b-tch.
Also, I think fewer guys jump to the conclusion of "She's cheating on me" than girls do. So they are able to get away with it for longer.
Plus (and feel free to argue against this) most women will plan things further in advance than guys. So a woman who is having an affair could say she's "go to a spa day with girl friends" and a guy would be more willing to accept that because it's not as spontaneous as "going to get drinks with the guys after a day of work".
Would I be surprised that women cheat more? No. Would I be surprised to hear that they get away with it longer? Nope. Does it make it any less wrong for a woman to cheat? Not at all.
I completely agree with you.
Some studies say this, other studies say that. I wouldn't take any of those studies too serious.
Just look at this poll here. The clear majority of females say that men cheat more often, while the clear majority of males say that women cheat more often.
What does this tell us other than that people usually just blindly try to defend their own gender while blaming the other gender at the same time? Nothing. People will always most likely choose to believe in the "facts" that are most convenient to themselves.
But to answer your question what I think who cheats more in relationships, my answer is: dishonest, unfaithful people. That's all I have to say.
Well said, and I agree.
Take a statistics class at uni for a year please. Then you'll realize that most studies are crap and don't mean much. They often decided before the time what they want the study to prove and it's very much possible to sway any study a certain way. I believe both genders are capable of cheating and that's all there is needed to know. I couldn't care about statistics. They don't take into account that each person is different and I just don't see the point in why it should matter who cheats more anyway. It's not like it's going to significantly change much if we knew which gender cheated more.
Why do you assume that I'm uninformed about the manner in which studies are conducted and/or how the results are subject to the biases of the conductor's opinion? Seriously, don't insult my intellect with simplistic knowledge. In this case, the study is a collection of individual opinions, which means the results of the study is debatable. Did I not say that studies report women cheat more than men, or did I state it as a fact?
Whoa dude I did not insult your intellect once. You started off your question with the words "recent studies report" and usually when people start off that way it implies that this study is something that they actually place worth on... to which I pointed out that it's smack to place value on it for the reasons above. I don't see what the problem is.
"Take a statistics class at uni for a year please. Perhaps I may have been wrong for doing so, but I interpreted that as a sarcastic remark. Nonetheless, you are still entitled to your opinion.
Well that's why it's never good to assume things..be it in studies or the "tone" of how someone says something cause I honestly did not mean it in a rude way. I just shared what I learned personally. Taking statistics really opened my eyes in regards to some things.
Fair enough.
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I believe it depends upon the upbringing. If you're born in a family were both parents are loyal and teach good morals to their children. The children will learn to lead a beautiful and honourable life.
Regarding the case, I think women have bigger "chances" to cheat more than. If you see in the past men were the bigger cheaters. Women got too frustrated and began to counterattack men with their own medicine. Hence there are more feminists nowadays.
As well as more cheaters.
We men brought this on ourselves.
Exactly. And well said and well thought out sir!
I believe that a lesser number of women cheat during marriage, but they do it nmuch sooner and much more often than the men do.Surveys seem to indicate this, but women are much better liars and much better at covering their tracks than men are.The true figure could be higher, but it could be around 29%.
Women typically begin cheating after 5 years of marriage, and they look for an emotional relationship.It's still a minority of women.
Men typically begin cheating after 10 years of marriage, after missing out on sex for 5 years.They only look for sex (because they've had no physical affection for so long), and aren't tying to start a new relationship.
Logically, for every cheating man there must be a cheating woman.About 75% of people are in a relationship, so the odds are that they're not cheating with single people.
Very well said!
I think maybe both cheat, it's just that girls voice it more. I feel that there may be an issue of if a girl cheats on a man it makes them less of a man. Girls share everything with their other girl and sometimes guy friends, whereas guys would probably tend to hide the fact that a girl has cheated on him due to embarrassment I guess. I think girls may cheat more as they are generally more insecure in a relationship, they are more sensitive to issues and get upset a lot more and tend to attach to anyone or anything that is nice to them. I think guys main motive for cheating is maybe more sexual than emotional. They're not getting enough or any sex from their other half, or maybe they've seen someone prettier or something like that.
I agree, guys do not readily admit to being cheated on.
I've seen studies that go both ways. I've also known people of both sexes who cheat. I'd say it's about equal.
It SEEMS (I have no data to back this) that it seems like more men cheat with the intent to stay in their long term relationship, though. Almost all of the women I know who have cheated seem to do so with the intent of leaving the relationship, whereas it seems more iffy with the guys. It seems like a small minority of guys cheat, despite wanting to stay in the relationship with their long term partner..
Also, I don't think it's just sexual variety that drives this behavior in a small subset of men. I think men with self esteem issues tend to be "collectors" who constantly seek female validation from as many females as possible. Obviously, sex plays a part sometimes - but most of the really promiscuous guys I've known were compulsive about getting female validation.
Admittedly, I've also seen studies that go both ways. However, all the studies I've read are not comprehensive statistics, and thus are reports and statistics of marital infidelity cases only. Based on my experiences and the experiences of others, not my relationships, I have to consider that the results of women whom cheat in exclusive relationships could be higher than reported. Great answer, by the way.
I think that both sexes also think it's the opposite sex that cheats more. Hahaha.
Do you actually have a source for what you state here? The most recent study I know is from the Ludwig Maximilian University of Munich, dates to Nov 2013 and says that 58% of all men asked have at least once cheated on their partner while it was "only" 42% for women.
Google it. And unless the results of a study is based on American men, I can't dispute not confirm it's authenticity.
What did you type as your title search? Yes, I read an academic study as well. Is that hard?
"recent" studies? I think this has been datamined for some time now...
Anyway, I think it just depends on how to define "cheating" for me. I know some people think just having feelings for someone else is cheating - emotional cheating. I know others who are fine if their S/O maybe kisses or gropes someone else, as they narrow down cheating to sexual intercourse only. I'm a bit more lenient on it...
Interesting. Care to elaborate more, sir? How lenient are you? Why?
I probably lean more towards cheating being limited to intercourse only. I don't know what I'd define it if my gf was just making out w/ some other guy she liked..."straying" perhaps? Don't get me wrong, of course I wouldn't be happy w/ it, but I don't think I'd say "my gf was cheating on me" if she was kissing some guy.
As to WHY i'm more lenient? I guess I'm just really particular about definitions. And to me, just kissing or groping or having feelings for someone else is just more of like pushing the barrier of cheating, but not quite breaking it. I guess b/c I place the highest value on intercourse. It's the ultimate action, so anything less, to me, seems as if it shouldn't be viewed as harshly as intercourse.
Good question, though, I'll have to do some more psychoanalysis.
I see. You have high self esteem. Myself: I don't mind my fiancé talking to other guys either, but unlike you, I could not tolerate them kissing her, ever. She is beautiful and I know the attention she gets comes with the territory, but I'm naturally territorial. I simply don't like other guys touching my woman in ways that I deem inappropriate. Good response, by the way.
whoa whoa...again, i didn't say i'd tolerate kissing. I just said i wouldn't classify it as "cheating". Again, it'd be displeased and would have a serious talk w/ my gf and consider ending the relationship. But I just wouldn't call it "cheating" as it seems to be contingent or arbitrary based on the situation (who is the guy, what was the setting, etc)
and ty for the compliments. and I am actually like you, I am very territorial, even of girls that aren't mine lol. But i am also comfortable if guys look at my gf...i used to get a lot of compliments on my ex and it really humbled me at times but also boosted my ego other times. But never did i feel jealous or insecure about it.
Ah, my mistake. Yes, we do seem alike in many ways.
I'm pretty sure the general tendency should be that men cheat more often, because men are those who seem more often to treat "women" as "women", and not as the person that they are. As such, they are more likely to be emotionally detached, and reach out to "use" 'others' of the "same kind".
Of course, this is disgusting to write down as well. Sexism sucks, and many people seem to figure that it's beneficial to them, so there is no reason for them to stop doing it.
It's said that women have a much easier time securing dates. If that's truly the case, then it would not be unreasonable to believe that women could cheat more than men. Are women, in general, more loyal than men, in general?
That is a reasonable counterpoint, actually. Although I always somewhat wonder if women up for one-night-stands are actually more selective are more selective than men, considering they all just need to find a single person who agrees to their terms.
Not sure what studies you have been reading. But if you google the topic you will find out that is not the case. However women are about 10to 15% behind. The reasons for cheating varies based on gender. men for variety, and women for intimacy and attention.
I just did, and from what I've read, women cheat more. So that we are on the same page, what studies on google are you referring to.
Here is another
https://m.huffpost.com/ca/entry/4118291/
Though in your defense the gap seems to be closing as more women are becoming financially more independent
I agree with both studies, however, they are based on marital infidelity only, correct me if I'm wrong. Their studies do not represent women in committed dating relationships.
I have to look that one up. Don't know of any research on dating / exclusive relationships.
I don't understand the importance of this... are you trying to start a gender debate? hoping that the girls will all scream "men" and the boys will all scream "women" and then everyone argues in the comments?
This is silly. So what if one gender statistically cheats more? it doesn't say anything about individuals.
If women truly cheat more and are better cheaters, are you just going to stop dating all women? no. so what does it matter?
I did not such thing. I was just wanted to get an idea of the consensus perspective. It's a poll for crying out loud, nothing more.
what ever it is. I would say, men are the reason behind the increased cheating.
1) men gave too much attention and give more expectations to girls to get her attracted and fall for them. once the girl is his. he stops the level of attention and give less expectations for her and his lady slides down the priority list. so, the lady starts to miss the old attention (they thrive on it) and men fail to realize ladies expectations increase never decrease. so they tend to get heart broken
2) other men who love to fuck women irrespective of their statuses (single or taken or married) use this situation to get in with her... she feels like someone appreciates and make them feel special again. so women fall for the traps.
so, technically its reason is for men :) :)
Absolutely, sir. However, women lose interest in and become less attentive to their husband as they had at the start of the marriage. Yes, just as men, women, too, have failed to practiced the hygiene as the did pre-marriage. Some women, like men, gain substantial amounts of weight that drastically alter their appearance and reduce their physical appeal to their spouse. I know, uh, the vanity of such people wanting their spouses to put effort in their appearance to maintain the same level of physical attraction in the marriage throughout. I could go on and on. Point is, people are susceptible to becoming complacent and comfortable in their marriage and domesticity.
And, oh, married women cheat, sir. Even women with ideal husbands and boyfriends. That being said, there is not a distinction in culpability when two people get together. It's their individual consenting choices, is not?
Your counter point is awesome. But, i believe and feel women wants more than just sex from husband. They want compassion, attention, help care from husband. Who supports her when his parents are agst her. If he gives everything i mentioned. She will stick with him hands down even he is not as good as in fitness and attraction. Cause what i mentioned also attractive features for mother of two children. So its upto men to keep her within his leash. If men fail to do these things. This happens. Ofcourse There is always bad women who roam around to have sex eventhough the guy is fsithful to her. Lets leave them. I am talkong about the ones who are genuine. But your point also correct.
Agreed. Some women do want compassion, attention, help, and care from their husband. And, yes, those same women will support their men and stand by them through thick and thin, but that, however, does not mean those very women will never succumb to their desires, fantasies, and temptations. In other words, satisfying most of a woman's needs will not necessarily equate to her being loyal. Women, like men, are human first and foremost, which essentially makes them susceptible to conceding to their thoughts in addition to their emotions. There is not a definitive blueprint. But I get your point.
Sure, if we existed in a perfect world. But in this world, in this time, that's simply not the case. Take some guys for example, they have beautiful wives and girlfriends who, for the most part, treat them right and with respect. Yet, remarkably, the guy cheats on them or has thought about cheating on them. Again, there is no a definitive blueprint.
Women are better liars and cheaters than men, so even this statistic is skewed, because most women are going to lie about it. I think of this the same way I think of a woman's body count. Almost all women are going to lie to you about the real number. So if most women are lying about that for fear of societal backlash, most women aren't going to be upfront about cheating either. But women do have more options in the modern day. Coupled with the fact that women most often get away with cheating and lying, it would make sense that women cheat more than men.
I think it's somewhat true.
Studies also says that most of the females don't know what they want
In that video, Hilary Swank says the same line :P
At the opposite end, most of guys always know what they want in a relationship,
So according to me that's the reason why girls more cheat than guys.
Hope that helps :)
I agree with you on the first part...women don't at all know what they want. and if they do know what they want... They don't know when they want it. but as far as saying women cheat more. it depends on the individual from both ends. I think there is equality just as many women cheat as men... but like AriesKurisu said women just get away with it better. they keep secrets and don't tell right number of guys the've been with.. like that old saying goes if you ask a guy how many people he's slept with subtract 3% if you ask a girl add 3% either way it equals out to be about the same...
Guys are built to spread their genes from woman to woman. That's how nature and testosterone works. This urge to procreate is too strong which leads guys to go elsewhere. Women require love and affection and if they don't get that, then they may cheat but guys can give this love and affection AS WELL as cheating. I don't know any girl who has cheated on her partner, it's always the guys.
I think men want to have sex with women more, but that's outside of a relationship. Once a man bonds with a woman long term, he is comfortable that way.
I think women will cheat because they don't appreciate the relationships they form and like the idea of jumping from one to the next instead of working to strengthen the ones they are already on. My mom cheated on my dad and my ex cheated on me several times. Women don't take relationships seriously and will hop from one to the other until they are too old to do so.
It seems likely that men would cheat more, and unfortunately the evidence seems to back that up.
Why someone would do that, I'll just never for the life of me understand.
What evidence?
I think men cheats more in relationship due to the fact of wanting to experience many holes. Men has always wanted all the ladies for himself so i doubt the wanna be playas are everywhere.
Haha. Your point is noted.
The studies I heard of say that women are more likely to cheat not they cheat more the actual cheating its about 50/50. and the reasons very from person to person. Still cheating is cheating and its still wrong no matter who you are
Exactly.
Let me tell you this.
The head of the penis has evolved to be a "semen scraper". Men that had penises more able to dig out the predecessors sperm were more likely to have offspring thus we evolved to have these bell like glanses.
Obviously, you don't get to scrape out any competitor semen if the girl is faithful to you.
On a more personal note... Never cheated... Got cheated on... Twice.
Women. I have known so many girls that cheated on their boyfriends and none of the guys I knew ever cheated. Women are just better at getting away with it which is sad :/
I appreciate your comment. Not because yiu voted for women but becuz you got the cycle.
Men are sex creatures and they can have sex with thousands of girks if they want. But women aren't crafted that way by nature.
The point is men cheat successfully becuz women allows it so by accepting them. Some women allow themselves to be treated as sex objects and have casual sex. Married Women too end up having one night stand when guy advances. So this is cycle.
Women are nowadays more responsive to men's advancement. So this is how it goes.
If majority of women remains conservative, then the advancement made by men fails.
Western girls are quite open in front of guys and some are very sex friendly too hence , more is the success of cheating opportunities for men.
Cheating either way is unacceptable to me, no one has entitlement to cheat. Although it's true that men have a much greater sex drive but that's no excuse.
Judging by the message I received this morning from the girl I've been dating lately, I'd probably be a bit biased in my answer. It's not like this means all women are cheaters though, but neither are all men.
Women probably are more prone to cheat though, I think.
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