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Girls are not valued if they aren't beautiful: Is it true? (Page 2)
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Super Gorgeous young women have POWER and almost as much as billionaire men. That stops when they age. As Howard Stern says, women "HIT THE WALL" around 30 to 35 years old.
It's like pro athletes. Their on the downside by age 30.
Hot young chicks need to capitalize on their looks ASAP. Life is all about money, power, trade-offs, pimps, john's and whore's.
Women who disagree are delusional and in denial.
End of story.
Well in the same respect it holds true for men. In general beautiful people are more valued than ugly people.
The only different with men is that not all stocks are placed on beauty. men can still be valued even if they are butt ugly by their wealth and social status.
Women too:
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No. Most men do not care about how prestigious or how much money a woman makes when wanting to pursue a relationship with her. This is why men often marry down and women marry up.
Guys have basic requirements.
1. Is she attractive
2. Do i like her personality.
don't you fall in love when you see her? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EI_E-_oawk
no. sorry.
Beauty has value, you can't deny it. But your overall value doesn't depend solely on beauty.
The truth is looks/beauty are subjective. Not only are they subjective but our interests as people can change. Humans are dynamic creatures. Contrary to what males will tell females and vice versa there is an inherent compatibility between males and females BECAUSE of biology and psychology regardless of their personal viewpoints.
I would suggest people try to be: happy, hopeful, healthy, patient, and confident then the rest should work itself out.
True, but both women and men have to worry about looking good to be desired. Girls have one thing to worry about though that's the difference.. men? We have to be earning a good salary too, have good social skills, have status, be charming, know what to say at the right time to a woman, be confident, etc. Just be happy that men don't have a giant list for you. If you really think women have it harder when it comes to being valued, why can almost any women find a partner then but not so for almost any guy? I'm expecting down votes from women with no rebuttal to the truth.
You forgot that we have to look good, cook good, we have to be sociable, have that sporty body, not be boring, not be wacky, we have to make all the right moves, we have to make everything overly obvious because we tend to be subtle and most of the time guys will look through that and not see the signs we put out, we have to be understanding, compassionate, good mothers, cis-gendered, able to take what other bitches dish out.
Our list is just as long as yours.
@BaileyisDarcy I have to disagree with you and agree with the Anon. For men, it's fairly one dimensional. If you're an ugly woman, you're screwed but if you're attractive then you have a golden ticket. For women, each individual thing is valued less but there are a lot of factors influencing how attractive a woman perceives you. Things like a good personality, confidence, a good wardrobe, money, social skills all weigh in. All of these are pluses in women too, but the reality is that a lot of men will look past all those things if the girl is attractive. Plain and simple. Most of the things you listed that you 'have' to be, I wouldn't really care that much about. I'd say of the things on your list, looking good, being understanding, being compassionate, being cis-gendered and making things obvious are the only things that would have any effect on me, and all but the last one are things that factor in for how attractive a man is too.
As for making things obvious, you have to keep in mind that while it's obvious to you what message you're trying to get out, it's not always obvious to the person who is trying to understand it. It's kinda like pictionary, just because it makes sense to the person drawing doesn't mean the other people will know what it means because they don't have access to your thought patterns. And being that we exist on the other side of these things, we don't always know what kind of signals women put out because we don't have first hand experience putting out those signals to get attention.
While people don't value women who are not pretty or rich, everyone knows that looks fade. Its just that the human brain has been forced to stay inside the box by only valuing stereotypical beauty. Humans are hard wired into valuing only attractive / rich / famous people because they have been exposed to all this nonsense since birth,
True, people try to make themselves look younger, intstead of embracing the stage of life they are in.
girls are valued just fine when they're not beautiful. but if they are beautiful, they get to sidestep hard work, common decency, and any kind of responsibility for their actions, and the ones who aren't beautiful see this and complain like they're being persecuted when no man ever has experienced the kind of special treatment beautiful women have. ugly bitches get jealous of the unfair advantage sexy bitches have and try to make it out to be a gender rights issue.
Even as a guy, I agree with this. It does seem society pressures women into looking good and meeting a "standard." If a guy doesn't meet a beauty standard, nobody seems to care.
Then again, if men don't meet a standard when it comes to being wealthy, he is judged while women are NOT in this category. Since you're under 18, you haven't seen the wealth aspect yet but it's true.
As a guy without the looks, there is a lot of that, too. Granted, it's more about perceived influence, wealth, and power; that I suppose trumps looks somewhat for girls. If I were earning 50000 a year, that still wouldn't impress girls around my area.
Beautiful, so amazing, I like the take... no I love it. One of the most beautiful take I have ever read. Thanks for writing!
Aww.. you guys are making my day
Well you sure deserved it.
:D Thanks.
You're welcome.
the most important thing is your life, health, and happiness. fuck everything else. i used to care so much, i used to be so insecure, i starved myself and i destroyed my body. now that i am healthy, i value myself more, and even though i still have my insecurities, i no longer base all my worth off of my looks.
That's not what I think. While I may not take the initiative to approach girls that I do not feel visually attracted towards, once I've had a conversation or two with the girl, I may become attracted to her personality.
My dream girl is one that has a humble, frank, and straightforward personality, and who looks the part as well.
In fact, if she looks too sexy, it's a major turn off for me. Which is pretty easy actually - tubetop, high heels, short denim pants, cleavage. I think I'm weird.
You think you have it bad... try being a guy with man boobs and tell me girls aren't picky about looks. Guys have it hard too and I ended up spending a lot in the gym and on new clothes. Surprise surprise... girls started approaching me. Girls are judgmental too. Same personality, just a bit slimmer
People love these three and they are far from great looking
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You have to give Judge Judy some props! Under that judge robe is a smokin' hot bod! She's like 65!
In your opinion though obviously someone finds them good looking
If a girl is fat and a guy is fat the girl wins because she will still get positive reinforcement telling her she is beautiful. A fat guy will not get that. They will be telling him he needs to shape up and that girls don't like fat guys so he needs to lose weight and that he is disgusting and unattractive and that he should kill himself because he is fat. Which almost made me do it.
Gr8 b8 m8 I r8 8/8 no h8
I suppose it's harder to be a guy, since most girls can make ourselves pretty with make up.
Thanks for that bruh
Stupid feminist hypocrisy
Eh looks aren't everything. I mean a girl has to be somewhat attractive but from my experience, the hotter a girl is, the more issues she has. Which isn't to say every girl I find very physically attractive to inherently have issues. I'm just saying I'd rather have a decent looking girl with a great personality as opposed to a hot girl with a boring/shitty personality.
Same goes for guys, no women is gonna stay with a guy because she thinks he's cute/hot.
I agree with you totally
I think each person is beautiful jn there own way and there will to be with another person there be some sort attraction and it can't just be sex. So i know there seems to be some normal preferences that average and normal guys go after but i like be different and been a nice guy rather than been a jerk that the average or normal Girl goes for
i agree. a woman's primary value derives from her attractiveness. everything else is secondary.
it really is true
I love"try" and the message it represents. Good take!
'I can say as an attractive female'... 'Let me tell you, there is nothing special about me.' So how are you deciding that you are an 'attractive' female?
She's making the point that there isn't anything special about being attractive. The decision is based on her observations.
@CoverGuy So is someone being attractive defined by others?
In that aspect, yes. You can like what you see in the mirror and be convinced that you look good. That is considering yourself attractive. But you might be confused when you ponder into the dating world for some time and see that people aren't approaching you. The observation is made. You can conclude that others don't find you attractive. No matter what you think of yourself, it's others who define your attractiveness.
After all, it's in the word. Being attractive means you attract. People should be coming to you like bean magnets.
@CoverGuy So is there realistically anything someone can do so people find them attractive.
You find out what makes a guy attractive. Then you demonstrate such qualities in social interaction and/or flirting. Simply said but complex to put into action
@CoverGuy So what makes a guy attractive is objective?
Subjective, but there are a few qualities agreed upon by the majority of women as attractive qualities, such as confidence and honesty
@CoverGuy Makes sense, but it's really annoying when you see outliers and inconsistencies. Like you see a lot of guys on here complaining that they are ugly and unattractive but a lot girls will then say that say they are. So much for needing confidence to attract.
Only place this may be true is where men rule over women. All other places, certainly not, I know plenty of women who are highly valued and they are not considered attractive by most.