What The Male Movement Should Have Been

[pavlove]

The Male Movement sounds like an odd thing. A gender that's historically and globally been the power group is suddenly feeling insecure and in need of cherishing, respect, and dignity? The Male Movement itself however is not a bad thing. It should never have been about treating women like evil dominatrixes. It shouldn't have come out of a frustration with anyone but the person himself. Even if the frustration stems from outside of him, it's his own lack of masculinity that confounds him.

It's his own inability to be confident, strong, decisive--and women starting to speak out about how this is missing in men that frustrates him. He is in need of HEALING not pot stirring and making him feel like he needs to act out against women, society or to walk away from them entirely. Here is what it should be about:

Reconnecting With Your Unlearned Masculinity

This generation of men can easily be agreed upon as "soft." It's the softest of men who would try to disagree but the hardest men who would agree the strongest. the Male Movement should encourage to seek out masculinity...to at least explore it and see if you like it. So few men seem to embrace it fully. Just because you don't like sports, doesn't mean you don't like fast cars or sitting around smoking cigars or going to the gym or any number of things associated with masculinity.

Learning to Respect Femininity

Some men seem to hate women and are continually punishing them by returning their affection with manipulation and mental destruction. Others seem to worship women so much so that they wrap themselves in femininity. The answer is to respect femininity as the necessary other half of masculinity. They are equal forces of exactly equal strength and while the path of femininity and The Mother is not for anyone who identifies as a male, it is still just as powerful and just as valuable to the universe.

Learning How You Might Have Lost Your Masculinity

There are a number of things that could cause it which i may discuss in further takes. Masculinity is often lost in childhood gradually rather than one traumatic event. An absent father, falling into a friend group that is less masculine than you and learning to become them as part of social intelligence, a mother who express hatred or disgust or hurt towards your father and you seeing him and masculinity as wrong and hurtful, or society itself equating masculinity with stupidity and buffoonery, an early failure to attract women causing you to try mimicking them as a sexual tactic etc. Learning how you lost your masculinity gives you the blueprint on how to get it back.

Rejoining Your Masculine and Feminine Selves

After you've reconnected with your masculinity you can realize that being a fully human person can't be limited to the masculine or feminine by themselves. Once you grabbed hold of your masculinity and your manhood then you can start to accent it with alternate experiences and perspectives.

[Anonymous]

I agree. I think men need to accept that their femininity is not a threat, and women's masculinity is not a threat. I also think the male movement should be inclusive of all men in terms of sexual preferences and gender identities, believing male rape victims and finding resources for them (which feminists already do), etc. I could totally get behind the mennist movement if they actually wanted to improve male lives instead of harassing women and invalidating our experiences. It is sad that they are misrepresenting the male gender in such a grotesque, cry baby way.

[bcromartie]

But what exactly is masculinity? You state it is lost and needs recovery but don't state what it really is.

[HikerDude]

There is no singular book on masculinity, just as there is no book on femininity. In fact, I think the men's movement, so-called, is a backlash against the social strictures that seem to govern our lives.

In 2016, women can be what they want. They're largely self-defined, and men look upon this with a combination of anger and envy. While women are free to be what they want, men are still stuck in this "... or else" notion of masculinity. There are all these silly things that we cannot do lest we be judged unmanly. We have to dress a certain way, talk about only approved subjects, avoid certain professions, and take whatever women allow us to have in the social sphere. It's silly, and it doesn't benefit the lives of most men.

People are complex creatures. Men run the same spectrum of personality as women, and it's time we acknowledge this. We need to take the shackles off and stop defining manhood by this outdated Victorian code. Removing these rules for men would go a long way toward alleviating the angst that so many men feel today about their place in our society.

[cth96190]

This is another blue-pill think piece, which tells men to offer themselves up to be the useful and disposable economic support units for females. That to refuse to be fucked over by women and destroyed by the Family Court in a divorce makes him less of a man. . . somehow.
Clearly, I am not of the millennial generation. I fall within the Baby Boomer dates.
I have been a soldier and I am a life-long student of a martial art. I also do some specialist security work. I know more ways to kill one of those effete social-justice warriors the first time that I hit them than they could possibly imagine. There is nothing lacking in my masculinity.
I walked away from women not long after I turned 30.
After a decade and a half of being rejected in favour of sociopathic and mentally-defective bad boys; of being used and fucked over by women. . . I decided that I was wasting my time.
If a dog is kicked often enough, it learns to stay away from the source of the pain.
By the time that I was 35 women were hitting on me and asking me out fairly frequently. That is going on still. My interest level is less than zero. Any form of interaction with a female carries with it the potential for a false rape allegation, or the lost of everything that I own and a lifetime of enslavement via a child-support order.
My one of my Americans friends said: the juice is not worth the squeeze.

[pavlove]

and yet you're still threatened by women and rather than looking inward at how you as a man could possibly feel that way when you have the gift of masculinity you instead feel small and frustrated next to them

[squatch]

Why do you automatically think that he is threatened by women. Some men just don't find relationships and self prostrating to be something that we need in our lives.

[cth96190]

I do not feel threatened by women. I am more intelligent than most, faster, stronger and know and have done things that they would see only in their nightmares.
Nor do I feel "small and frustrated next to them".
What I see when I look at a women is a primarily parasitic entity, who, on the basis of statistical probability, is in the category of an unacceptable risk, in terms of the cost/risk/benefit of any interaction.
A rational assessment is based on facts, not fear.
The only things that I feel are resentment, angst and bitterness when I recall my younger years.
When a woman hits on me, what I see is someone for whom I would not have been 'fun' or 'exciting' enough when she and I were 20.
She can go back to the bad boy who made her tingle when she was 20. She can find him, or someone similar to him, in any trailer park, or welfare housing project.
They deserve each other.

[Anonymous]

So you want men to go back to being white knights who open the door, pay for dates and do all the hard stuff. While women are free to do as they please because let's face it, very few women are feminine these days.

I think MGTOW has the best message. It helped men wake up and question certain things that for too long men have just been expected to do. For example why is it the majority of males must risk their lives, get their limbs blown off to protect women who ultimately hate them and a society that does not respect them?

Why must men pay for dates, and entertain the woman like a court jester while she just decides if he is fun enough that she wants a relationship with him.

Why must the man be expected to provide for the woman?

Why must the man pay for child support and most women get custody rights for the children even if she is the shittier parent?

Why must men marry?

[redeyemindtricks]

"The power group" is indeed historically male -- but, it has never been more than an infinitesimally tiny fraction of all men.

The biggest reason feminism has so thoroughly succeeded is that it managed to hoodwink so many people into believing that men IN GENERAL actually hold significant sway in society.
... As if.

[martyfellow]

Most of us males were soldiers or slaves throughout human history. Only a tiny minority had any real power.

So we don't understand why we are being blamed for every social problem out there. And told we should be more like the women, who in the US support every societal inequality... and don't get me started on the imitation women, the gays...

[Idonotgivearatsass]

Masculinity is subjective, there is nothing specific that makes a male masculine... there can be one thing or multiple things that make a male masculine, therefore you can't say whether someone is masculine or not without painting them into someone else's idea of masculinity.

[pavlove]

honestly though it is no more subjective than the color blue. it clearly exists as a concept to refer to something just as blue refers to an objects color... the thing is masculinity has become obscured and misunderstood in my opinion and so a lot of the "masculine traits" that people who are attracted to masculinity enjoy are not as commonly expressed thus women feeling like guys act like girls nowadays

[Idonotgivearatsass]

@pavlove
Those "masculine traits" you mention though are still subjective, you won't get the same answer from everyone, will some of them match, certainly, because they've been told certain things are considered "masculine", but who decided what was masculine and what wasn't in the first place? Wasn't it the imperfect human brain.

[anonymosity]

I love this article! Love love love love love it. Is there an article like that for girls and femininity? I feel so many girls these days (myself included) shut down their femininity as well after being hurt.

[pavlove]

Thanks ! I wish there were

[DizzyAster]

The good thing about regaining masculinity is that it's easy for men.

Work out - no need for a gym, just get up and move the body
get a job - any job that puts money in your pocket is a good job
take care of responsibilities - most important, real men take care of their responsilities, but a smart man knows how much he can handle.

[TheInvisibleMan]

"an early failure to attract women causing you to try mimicking them as a sexual tactic etc"

could you explain this a bit further? or at least give some links where its explained in depth and the solution too. cause this is my story and it has ruined my whole life, even today i don't know how to fix it

[Prof_Don]

I have to fully agree with the masculinity in most modern men being lower. There is a sense of toughness, competition and valiant attitude to help others that is missing in a large part of my fellow males of my generation.

[Kuranosuke]

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[Anonymous]

Femininity has always been known to be evil. On top of that women are inferior and perverse... on account of which they MUST be controlled!!

For the sake of all that is GOOD, women must be put back in the kitchen

[Opinion Owner]

Feminazis always keep defining masculinity as this and that... what a real man is and what isn't...

Can't you see it's all a trap? Men were NEVER focused on being masculine and are not outside the feminist world. Masculine originally just means "male" and nothing more. Fuck this feminazi society!!

[MindYourEyes]

I think you need to go in the kitchen. XD. haha!

[MusicOfTheManik]

Hey I know my place I never left the kitchen. XD
I am now a kick ads cook. 😎

[Vostock]

@MusicOfTheManik
So you go on TV during commercials and cook? Kick ass. You must be famous by now.

[Jager66]

It is all those things, just depends where you look. That stuff you listed is more what you would find in MRA circles, VS. say PUA, or MGTOW.

[Djaaaaay]

True masculinity... is never leared or is it ever lost. Your born with it and it's already blueprinted inside your DNA , tetesterone can produce a uforia of masculinity.

[Anonymous]

men today are freaks weirdos and pussies.. they hide behidn their ugly fat homely girlfriends and pretend to be the women.. they need to just castrate the worthless men and use their sperm to procreate when needed

[Anonymous]

The "Male movement" was part of the Trump campaign. It reached its aim, you cucks.

[Anonymous]

I have nothing against other people being masculine, but ye I tried that and it ain't for me. I'll stick to the other side thanks. :P

[ADFSDF1996]

Women need to respect masculinity as well.

[Adigelunar]

nice post

[MissSakura]

thanks for sharing