Reason why men chase you when you don't give a f***.

[Anonymous]

Men like it if you ignore them and ghost them. They will swoon over you and they will go fight over you if you do this.

[MzAsh]

Men want what they can’t have.

[myTake Owner]

That's why you can blame them for harassment.

[esotericstory]

@MzAsh how do you know this?

[BeanieCoatman]

this video is totally not right and spreading false bullshit,
i only chase what i can have, or else what is the point of trying?

[MzAsh]

Of course the woman had to give energy that she’s somewhat attainable but it’s important that she shows that a man must be on his toes to earn her full attention. If she’s tripping all over herself to be with Mr Joe Average then that tells that she’s probably less than average herself.

[BeanieCoatman]

not really, it doesn't make the guy think she's less than if she gives in so easily,
but i see what u mean in a way... if a girl is so easy to obtain... once u obtained her after like a day or 2 of trying... u give up cos u feel like all the hard work is over n can't be bothered with her anymore n dont even talk to her that much... so yeah... i guess it is better to get the guy chasing abit... its jus im not really into that at all... im lazy lol

[MzAsh]

No man really appreciates the woman who was easy for him to get to. He will get bored quickly, as you hinted on. You admit you’re lazy and that’s exactly what women don’t want. Part of the strategy for being a challenge is for weeding out the lazy guys, the entitled guys, the low value guys, etc.

[wisefool]

you're so full of shit. men don't wanna work to make a girl like them... if they get bored of her that fast, then she wasn't interesting to begin with.

[MzAsh]

Tats true. And part of what makes her interesting is in how she requires a man to qualify himself to her.

[BeanieCoatman]

well anyway good luck tryna get a guy with the im not intrested attitude

[BeanieCoatman]

if y'all wanna believe this dumb bad advice video go ahead lol, let me know if u get anyone lol

[MzAsh]

I’ve always had huge success after applying this mentality. But I don’t need it now that I’m married.

[BeanieCoatman]

whoever keeps trying and keeps getting rejected after 5th attempt and still tries must have really low self esteem lol... and desperate... but good on them if they finally won the prize at the end,
i dont think every guy likes this im not intrested mentality tho... maybe like 30 / 40 percent... most want to know she at least likes him so that there's a point in continuing...

[esotericstory]

@MzAsh, are you saying i can't have a wife with a family, 5 kids, a house and pay off all my debt?

[wisefool]

she's right though, some guys actually enjoy the process of chasing a woman. it's a challenge for them, but those guys aren't the majority, which is obvious by the responses. i do not like women that play hard to get or that play games in general. i appreciate easy women.

[MzAsh]

You might like easy women because it strokes your ego, but easy women are the women who will be taken for granted the most. The majority of men on GAG are low value and lazy so if course they’ll have a hard time with the truth.

[wisefool]

you seem to have a strong sense of denial. 15 downvotes and not a single upvote from guys. you realize people are different right? i just explained to you that i don't like women that play games. on the contrary it sounds like you are the one trying to stroke your ego.

[MzAsh]

This is from my own experience and observation. Men might “like” easy women for the short term, but they sure won’t respect them. You don’t appreciate anything you didn’t have to work for. That’s why rich kids who were born into wealth are so bratty and miserable. They didn’t have to work for it therefor don’t know anything’s true value. Men are the same way with women who come easy.

“Nothing worth having comes easy.”

[wisefool]

exactly, it's just your own experience. when you say "easy women" it sounds like you're talking about sluts, which is not what i'm talking about at all. guys aren't just born with women so i'm not sure how you make that comparison. the fact is that for me and many other men, stuck up women are simply a turn off. for a minority of men, they see them as a fun challenge but they are still just as likely to be unhappy in the long run, sometimes more so since they were only in it for the chase.

[MzAsh]

To further illustrate my point, here’s an article that discusses why women don’t ask men out on dates. www.psychologytoday.com/.../why-dont-women-ask-men-out-first-dates

It shows that most men prefer to be the ones to ask out a woman, and that women prefer to be the ones to be asked out my men. Men generally want to come to a woman first, to qualify to a woman first. Women know this about masculine men.

A woman who chases a man is a masculine woman and it forces him to be in the feminine role of being pursued.

[wisefool]

you have no point. you're wrong, just accept it.

[MzAsh]

I’ll agree to disagree.

[esotericstory]

@MzAsh "Should men go on a "risky initatives" strike? Should we ask women to "woman up" — put their fragile egos on the line, get some ovaries, get out there and start asking out men on first dates?" lol.

[MzAsh]

I mean, you can lol. Although not many will want to, and the ones that will are going to be the dominant throughout the whole relationship. If you’re more of a demure or laid back guy, then a take charge woman might be better for you. But you just gotta be ok with that.

[esotericstory]

I just ask a third party to introduce me.

[myTake Owner]

Why are there so many entitled incels who commented?

[myTake Owner]

She made a point. You guys are just desperate for a relationship. You must know that women are not going to settle for anything less and we don't need you! If you want us, ask us out! Be a man and stop being a beta.

[esotericstory]

Why should we accept beta women then?

[MzAsh]

What they want is a relationship with a woman without putting in the work. And that’s not going to happen unless they are willing to settle for an equally desperate woman or one that wears the pants and wipes the floor with them. Worthy women want effort. I’m trying to help them understand that.

[esotericstory]

@MzAsh You only make value judgments, not real arguments. "a worthy woman" in your argument is a value, if you ask what's a valuable woman? then you simply give more values, not actual criteria. Its a lose lose situation.

The criteria for a good parter from a man's point of view is a woman who would be a good mother with a good work ethic herself. We need to identify such women. Humans are social animals so they are exhibitionists and show off their qualities. If a woman can't show off that she doesn't have a good work ethic then I can't consider her as a candidate because it would be a turn off.

No man wants to date/marry a pillow princess.

[MzAsh]

If you care about a woman’s work ethic, then you need to focus on her reciprocity. You as a man will set the bar and provide yourself as an example for the effort you put in and the value that you give, and then you see how well she complements that and gives her own effort and value.

[MzAsh]

I assume you mean work ethic as it pertains to the relationship and not a career. Correct me if I’m wrong in that.

[esotericstory]

Well, I have good work ethic since I went to trade school. Im not a no effort man if you think that.

[MzAsh]

Well that’s good. But you need to show that first. You can’t expect women to come to you and qualify to you. Most decent women have so many options they are trying to filter through, they want to know and see what makes you so special and why they should choose you.

[wisefool]

i disagree. decent women have the illusion of many options, not actual options. big difference. a decent woman in my mind isn't one that sits back and thinks the man is the only one that has to prove his worthiness and somehow you think it's the guys that are lazy? lol i don't understand your reasoning at all, which i guess is why you have 17 downvotes and counting. you realize that guys are turned off by arrogance right?

[MzAsh]

I was talking about reciprocity and how men need to vet women that way.

[Insightfull]

"Men want what they can’t have."
18 male downvotes and 0 male upvotes.

[MzAsh]

Yeah it’s called butt hurt

[Stephen_77]

If you don't need men then stay single. I've been telling women this for years, women who always brag about not needing a man. If you don't need a man then more power to you. Just piss off and go live your life. So simple lol.

[SecretGardenBlood65]

Good take

[Inbox]

Good take

[ChronicThinker]

They will if they're mentally ill or stupid. I wouldn't chase your ass.

[SomeGuyCalledTom]

I get that human nature is complicated and murky, and even the most extreme statements often contain a grain of truth when viewed in the correct context.

But I just have no interest in a girl who ignores or ghosts me.

And frankly, I've never known women to be more attracted to a guy who bends over backwards to placate her vague, noncommittal, hot-and-cold behaviour.

Y'all THINK you want a man to qualify himself to you and pursue you a lot, and you'll even pull away on purpose just to make him jump through more hoops. But when a guy actually takes the bait and does all that, you lose attraction to him, because he's weak enough to be manipulated by your B. S.

All the guys I've met who have the most success with hooking up with women/ getting dates are the guys who can effectively "flip the script" and get the woman to invest and chase, while also having a masculine vibe and moving things towards the result they want (usually sex, but sometimes romance/ dating etc if the girl is exceptional).

But of course, women wanna feel empowered in this age of feminist doctrine, so they tell themselves "men want a woman who ignores them", because it delays the inevitable fact that sooner or later, you'll have to actually put yourself on the line if you wanna keep the right guy around for the long haul. And you're afraid that if he sees you as you really are, he might reject you on that basis. So you avoid that possible outcome altogether by just ghosting him and putting the onus on him to brute-force a connection out of thin air. And if he fails in that-- or more likely, just moves on to a more receptive girl-- then you get to tell yourself "oh he just wasn't man enough to handle a woman like me".

Just accept that if you want a connection with another person, then you have to carry that flag of yours loud and proud, and put it out to the world that you're open to discovering that connection. Quality men don't chase women who ignore them-- they have too many other options! Why would Leonardo DiCaprio or some other high status, high-achiever male chase some girl he meets in a club who then ghosts him on all their plans and acts like a bitch... when he can have his pick of model-looking girls who keep his stomach full and balls empty without even being asked?

[Insightfull]

@SomeGuyCalledTom 👏👏👏

[Anonymous]

The key to all of this lies in what he says in point 1 - It shows that you have other options.

"Scarcity drives desire".

Yes. 100%.

What is scarcity? A lack of options. Or in this case, a lack of attractive options.

The attractive option is "scarce".

This works only on guys who lack attractive options in the first place. If he does have attractive options, which he likely does if he's the kind of guy you're really attracted to, playing hard to get doesn't really work.

Which is why you'll see guys say that as soon as a woman does this they move on, as do I. If a guy can find other women who are just as attractive as you, who don't play hard to get, he's gonna move on. Other guys won't move on - that's because they don't have those other options.

Where women get it wrong is that they think that playing hard to get is what makes them attractive. Wrong.

I hate the rating scale, but for the sake of simplicity lets use it. Let's imagine that it's not just about looks, but the total package, personality and all that.

Guy has two options, they're both 8s on the scale. One plays hard to get, one doesn't. He's gonna go for the one who doesn't. Going for the other would be more hard work than it's worth.

Guy has two options, one is a 5, and one is an 8. The 8 is playing hard to get, the 5 isn't. If he can't be bothered to pursue, he goes for the 5. If he thinks he has a good chance with the 8, he chases the 8.

Not because she's playing hard to get, but because overall she's the more attractive one of the two, therefore he's willing to put in more effort to get her. Women who think that it's the playing hard to get that causes the attraction have it backwards.

"Guy want what they can't have"

The same goes with this here. It's not because they can't have the girl that they want her. Using the rating scale again, a 5 could tell me that I couldn't get her. That wouldn't magically make me want to start pursuing her, I wouldn't care. I'm not attracted anyway. Like the guy says in the video, the attraction has to already be there.

They want "what they can't have" not because she's playing hard to get, not because he can't get her, but because she's more attractive than the girls he usually gets. He's a guy who usually gets 5s, he's never been with an 8, no 8 has ever been interested in him - and she's an 8.

The way this works really is based on relative sexual market value. The lower one persons SMV, the more they're going to pursue the one with the higher SMV. The BIG problem with this kind of advice is that women tend to prefer men who are higher in SMV, and this only works on men with similar or lower SMV.

[NineBreaker]

What you're describing is the forbidden fruit concept. It's true for people generally. However, when it comes to relationships, for us men, it's actually a very, very, very small exception to the rule.

We (generally) do not like being ignored because that is the default setting. We are the ones expected to approach first, and suck it up when we get rejected, which for the overwhelming majority of men, happens the overwhelming majority of the time.

For the women who believe this BS: You are entitled to your beliefs and opinions. You think he'll chase you when you ignore him, by all means. Just don't be surprised when ignoring someone you're interested in backfires. My advice is: grow up and stop playing games. You don't like when neem play games with you, so don't fo the same stupid thing.

[jadspop]

Yeah. That's kind of a sexist notion that that's how all guys are. It dose happen yes. But it's not like it's 80% of the time. Sometimes people just want what they can't have. Goes for both genders. And some don't handle rejection well enough and have to prove there good enough. But often in those cases when they get what they want they lose interest.

[rjroy3]

Weird. Because when girls ignore me or ghost (happened once) I just leave.

Even if you did manage to get with that girl. You really want a relationship when she knows she can do whatever the hell she wants to you and you won't leave? That girl will have zero respect for you and you'll have zero respect for yourself as a man. I'd rather have my balls, pride, self respect and maintain my joy for life.

Never in my life have I pursued a girl who ignored me. I've pursued girls who were genuinely hard to get. Like they had other guys, or weren't as eager as other girls might be. But I've never pursued girls who outright ignored me. Because... why would you? That's not attractive on either end.

[olderbutnotwiser]

true story I've had to real crushes in my lifetime both were during school... first in primary or elementary for us folks.

I liked this girl since the first day and was to shy to ask her out it took me 6 years of liking her, then one day she began to become attracted to me... we dated for a week then I dumped her.

Similarly in high school had another crush I liked for years finally got her attention and dumped her after 3 days.

This is why im still single, I lose interest almost immediately when they like me.

[Cythera]

No they don’t. They hold grudges though. My boyfriend now tried to hit me up on different occasions. The first time he did I felt like what he was saying was cringe. Then he kept replying to my snaps and eventually I started talking with him. I did ghost him like 2 cause I felt I wasn’t good enough but he kept trying and now I love this guy

[Insightfull]

I strongly disagree.
If a woman plays hard to get, then they won't get me. I'll move on to someone who is interested.

Ghosting and ignoring someone is incredibly disrespectful. It sends the clear message that they are not worth the slightest bit of your effort. I lose respect and love for a woman who does this.

I have solved my problem with being ignored, and come up with a saying:
"Sure, you don't have to respond, and I don't have to like you"

[Evilcharlie]

That whole concept of men wanting what they can't have, women playing hard to get is just some reverse psychology trick that some women have too use when their "P's" are over due for a tune up. For me women that play mind games is a deal breaker. Women that start out playing mind games will just continue till she get tired of playing & moves on or you get tired of being played & moves her on.

[AmandaYVR]

I'm not even going to watch this video. There's no point.

This is complete crap you're peddling. Any good woman who has self respect, and who respects the other gender, would not play these games. You're just feeding into the problems (watering the crops with 'Brondo'), exacerbating the divide, fuelling this stupid 'gender war'. You think you have a leg up here, you've found a hack, but you're one of the reasons things are the way they are right now.

Young ladies who are on the fence... don't listen to this. It's destructive behaviour. It will not end well.

Men, not all women think this way. We are with you, not against you.

And p. s., anon pink - if you're so proud of what you think here, why did you anon it? Nvm, don't answer that.

[myTake Owner]

How much did the misogynists pay you to write such bulls***?

[AmandaYVR]

I've got my own mind and no one's going to tell me how to think. I'm here to remind the guys that not all women are bat shit crazy or manipulative bitches.

Is it cozy up there in your ivory tower?

Coward.

[mk200195]

Haha good one Amanda! 🥂

[Stephen_77]

She's probably a feminist

[RickPen]

Why would I bother pursuing someone disinterested? Doing so would indicate low expectations of myself, as well as having time to waste on such activities. I have never, and will never chase someone down. If they want a relationship, it can be mutual or not at all. If they're interested, they can show it like a healthy person, and not act paranoid or manipulative.

[Anonymous]

i actually hate when girls act like that, i jus giv up and dont bother with them, why chase someone who doesn't want u?
its pointless, waste of time, an jus makes me feel sad and rejected,

they jus say guys love it because its a motivator to get the persistent guys to keep trying, it gives em a goal to work towards...
its like tryna save money to buy a car,
but instead of saving money... he's saving up respect... and the more he flirts and tries... he thinks he will eventually be able to afford ur love...

thats why they try so much, not because they want to,,, they hate it... they jus feel like they have to do that in order to try and get u... but u will never see me trying like that... i will give up the moment she shows unintrest

[Opinion Owner]

thinks he will eventually win over ur love,,, thats why he keeps trying,

but me... i already know i won't win shit so i give up from day 1

[litty]

Damn straight. Playing hard to get just means they are attention seeking or are doing it because they are taking advice from people who want to feel good about themselves.

[Napoli]

I think this is true for immature guys and players... not so much for people who don't have time for bullshit mind games, or for people who don't have time for them.
You may get their attention, but you won't necessarily keep it.

For most people, someone either likes you or they don't. Who really enjoys wasting energy trying to figure it out?
For every person playing hard to get, there is someone who doesn't mind making it clear.

[Vince45]

Haha yep everyone has had to go through this i wanted this one specific girls' friendship just friendship and 1st week was all good then bam that up there happened lol i started to loose myself a little wondering what i did wrong kinda cruel tactic by the way haha and well my solution was for me to distance myself a little too and now it was the other way but now we are bffs... life is a tootsie pop

[pocketman]

I don't know if this guy knows the terms he's using. People who don't G. A. F. are careless, don't have limits, no morals, no self control, unpredictable. This is Unattractive.

Carefree people on the other hand, depict more a young heart, open mindedness, stress free attitude, optimism. This is attractive.

[Thatsamazing]

Lol um... no. This guy is an idiot-- his entire message is null and void as, by his own admission, what he is saying only works if the guy in question is already at least kind of into the girl in question. If he's not into her already, this doesn't work. At all. So...

[YHL6965]

And then you wonder where all these single women in their 30s come from... Playing games will get you nowhere. Only those who take dating and relationships seriously and put work into them will ever get something good.

[Anonymous]

Guys that figure you're a slut or low-brow tramp anyway & it's only a matter of before they can screw you, sure. You're a waste of time otherwise.

I'm an attractive woman. I act & dress decently. When single I got attention, including some very affluent individuals. But when I was single guys also don't hang around like a bunch of flies swarming stale overused bread. Why. Because if I've no interest the first time the likeness I will 5 times later is still not-gonna-happen.

[Doctor_Strix]

Sure, if you’re into Chads and guys who like to play games. Just don’t come back on here asking, “why can’t I find love?”.