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While our society seems to be more harsh with their gender expectations of women, men don’t get off Scott-free either.
You talkabout poor me syndrome and then you say society is more harsh to women, which women say all the time. Isn't that poor me syndrome right there?
It is hardee but I'm not complaining that's a fact not poor me I do well as a female no complaints.
I agree with your observations but I see this as a continuum and not a dichotomy. Some guys are wretchedly weak, some occasionally weak, some rarely weak, and most are somewhere between never and always.
You know my profession and I see things in levels this is the very basic one
No middle, no in theory just summary. You're getting deep on me sir 🙂
Yeah, I think you're right on this one, OlderAndWiser.
@WowwGirl
What is your profession?
The Ray Rice case is a good example to illustrate this continuum. He was athletic and did well playing in the NFL for several years, winning the Super Bowl to conclude the 2012 NFL season with the Baltimore Ravens franchise. That said, he knocked cold his then-fiance in an elevator. Doing stuff like that is cowardly, for example. As I might have noted in another comment on this take, this article, I think, lacks nuance.
@Bluemax if I knew you and felt comfortable I'd say
It deals with science something tied to this I'll say
I agree, people tend to categorize into neat little boxes, when life just isn't like that at all.
@OlderAndWiser
#eriçclayton Don't you hate those questions: why do all guys blah, blah, blah, or why do all girls think blah, blah, blah?
@OlderAndWiser are you referring to me sir?
@OlderAndWiser Most people see the world dichotomously.
@ericclayton or write what they know will get a reaction. There's a reason I'm most viewed sir. You ever heard of hypnotic language or covert hypnosis? Beautiful things
@WowwGirl. I definitely was not referring to you. I was referring to the really young girls who act as if every guy is alike, or the young guys who think there is one secret that unlocks the heart of every woman.
Good because I like you and that would have been hurtful. Plus I think you understand the meaning behind my writing and 95% don't.
Like me, you sometimes write things to provoke thought and discussion.
No, nothing hurtful intended towards you and I still want to be counted as one of your friends.
Got ya 👍and yes we both do that
If you can't be bothered to read people's responses over a paragraph long, then what's the point of allowing responses? Doesn't make sense.
And I don't think people are just one thing. Weaknesses and strengths go hand in hand. 🤷🏾♀️
I find it funny that when a man needs validation and is insecure he is called “weak” but when a woman does it it’s because she went through a lot in life and has low self esteem because men hurt her and she just needs someone to make her feel valued. Double standards are fun aren’t they? 🙄
Women should have high estrogen and be emotional men should not.
So men aren’t allowed to have feelings because they don’t have as much estrogen? Lmao then women aren’t allowed to ever be angry because they have no testosterone
Whatever the reason weak is weak.
Spades a spade
No more arguments?
Dumb is dumb too, apparently
Absolutely
Probably more a spectrum than the black and white thinking you're presenting here. Nevertheless, even in a gray scale, black and white still exist.
How would you like to see the cultivation of strong men? How would you like to see weak men become better?
You're all over this thing
You lost me honestly
Don't take it so serious
You're proving me right the more you complain and you're joining the herd which I think you are smarter then personally.
Disagreement isn't complaint. We don't even disagree that much. You think it's either or. I think it's a spectrum.
How would you like to see the cultivation of strong men? How would you like to see weak men become better?
I only agree with some parts of your description. However I can see where you're coming from and I do recognise that there is quite a difference between types of men.
I do think it's an overgeneralisation and uses too strongly worded descriptions of characteristics. Aside from that, good article.
Far enough
The ironic thing is, this is exactly what incels believe. Strong man vs weak man, virgin vs chad. I never had a shot so why even try anymore?
They, and you by extension, are wrong. We as humans, are nothing more or less than what we make of ourselves. There are no sub-humans. The only weakness is giving in to this type of thinking.
If you deconstruct a whole gender into two categories, its got a name... its called sexism!
Everyone are individual and way more complex than any simplification.
That said, observing patterns in your personal life and understanding you want a ""strong"" or a ""weak"" character and knowing what that means and importantly sharing that early with any potential partner can make for a happier like.
Good luck.
All the things you listed are true to be bad traits but they don't make someone weak or a "type" it's simply unfair. We all have moments of weakness where we blame others or take things personally or need acknowledgement but then we get back on our feet and once again chose to live life our own way and not care what others think and see positivity.
Its not one or the other it's an endless alternation between the two.
There’s another type of guy other than this? 😂 I think you’re in the same position as me right not with men. Great take interesting read
What the asshole?😂
Damn... There are lots of woman that won't sleep with me. I always thought that I just wasn't their type. I didn't know I could actually blame it on them... She must be a lesbian/ bitch/ c**t/ man hater. Wow, if Mom heard me talk like that, I'd have a fat lip. I guess I'll avoid being popped in the mouth and not blame anyone. After all, can you really fault someone for having good taste.
I would've just said the word cunt.
Really, are you only physically “strong looking”?
Or “mentally strong” ?
Most people haven’t been tested on their true inner strength. Inner strength that outweighs your muscles. And at the same time the mental strength that outweighs your muscles.
It doesn’t matter how manicured a man looks. It’s about how strong he is in the inside.
You realize that everyone has their own flaws, and not every guy has all these flaws or all these "advantages". Stop generalizing. These "boys are" "girls are" really don't treat the other sex as a person, but more like a specimen
Yes but some have courage not all
Those without courage can be strong in other ways. Don't generalize us please. Personality is a thing, and every man is vastly different from the next.
I do what I want
Far too simplistic. People have areas where they are weak or strong, and they may have things that they care greatly about and things they don't.
There are people who voluntarily take extremely dangerous jobs, but have difficulty standing up for themselves in relationships. There are people who are socially very comfortable but do not take any risks.
Many people are strong in one environment and weak in others.
All people contain part strong/part weak/ Often what is seen as "strong" can be a mask for fear. Courage is not an absence of fear but feeling the fear & going through it.
There are also overlooked strengths- humility is one. Those who are humble may be perceived as week whereas what is deemed strength is the weaker person who needs others to recognize his deeds and will act "alpha".
made me think of trump.
I have quite some properties of the weak guy... but I'm okay with it!
Nobody is perfect
haha yeah but as you know the joke says "but my first name is nobody" 😁
I agree with you about the poor poor me part but, I have no interest in someone who think they have to control the situation all the time either. I'm capable of doing many things but, I prefer being a decent individual that can relax being around anybody that might be in the room and them comfortable around me.
attack me, woman that woulld never sleep with me... i wanna be hurt XD...
This is just a kafka trap.
"Here's a bunch of traits I am assigning negative judgement to and defending yourself against this judgement is a sign of guilt."
...
Who are you to judge me?
Try this parallel... Show me your projected life contribution to society that would defend yourself from an accusation that your optimal value would be reduction into compost?
Just for a moment think there r four types of man,
So if a strong man (in ur vision) say tht u r wrong u will call him weak,
If a weak man (in ur vision ) say tht u r wrong u will call him weak
May be i m weak but u have almost zero logic in this mytake i suggest to be less jugdemental and still if u want to be judgemntal thn u should be pure ones like saying any thing by having facts not being sentimental
Bcoz ur mytake had put almost all of man in dllma