Reasons Guys Do Not Date Today

[WowwGirl]

Reasons Guys Do Not Date Today

The guys today that say ever women is evil or a gold digger. The guys who can't figure out why ever woman alive doesn't want to have sex with him? Yes, those guys...

Here are a few of many reasons about why guys today can't get a date for the life of them.

Little Dick Fear

First off, if a man can’t bear the thought of being dumped for incompatibility in bed, in general, or because his penis is too small, in particular, then he probably shouldn’t be dating anyway.

Basically, you are afraid you won't perform in the bedroom up to her standards. You're afraid that your four inches just isn't enough.

Nervous Nelly's

Maybe she won’t like me? Maybe I’ll say something stupid? What if she thinks I'm weird? Why can’t I get a girlfriend like everyone else?

Why would she want to talk to a guy like me? Why Can't I Have Sex With Her? Why doesn't she like me? Why Won't She Pay The Bill Or Go Dutch?

If these and similar questions sound familiar, then you may be more anxious around women than you should be. We are nothing to be scared of guys. ( calm down )

You Expect Her To Pay For or Split Everything

I'm not saying that women are cheap. I'm saying that women like a man who is generous when it comes to his attempt to woo her / win her over in the beginning of dating.

He Waited Too Long

Men commonly wait for that perfect moment to move in or wait for her to give him a blatant signal.

The truth is that women are drawn to an Alpha Male who is proactive, confident and able to take control. We think you don't like us and we move on with our lives.

They Are Stuck In Their Own Heads

A man will try and come up with clever lines, try to impress her by talking about himself or worry too much about what to say rather than stating something that relates to the woman.

Maybe try letting her feel speacial by asking questions about her or things she likes. "Just Saying" maybe give it a try someday. After all you have nothing to lose, do you?

Thank you for reading this everyone...❤️

#WowgirlRocks #wowgirl

#WoWgirlRocks

[TheFlak38]

More man-hating feminist bullcrap by miss "I know it all". Men have stopped dating because of entitled bitches like yourself. You think you're such princesses that you're entitled to our time, attention and money without giving anything back. You have tons and tons of apps elevating your vagina to the most astronomical heights with the entire system serving you ever more apps to keep the sexual market place rigid in your favor to the point that the ugliest woman in the world can have a buffet of cocks to choose from. More and more men realise that your boobs aren't worth the squeeze. All I see in your dumb article is you, calling the shots, ordering men to behave a certain way just so they can get a chance to ejaculate into a vagina. You talk about alpha men who act and take the initiative. Women call that rape today if the man in question is someone they dont like. You make rules for betas but break rules for alphas. Men don't have to do shit for you in order to get laid. If you like the guy he can be the filthiest asshole to you. You will still fuck him doggystyle until it's time to find your beta and lock him down with marriage and kids.

[WowwGirl]

I'm a Traditionalists actually

[TheFlak38]

Yeah ok. I've seen enough self-proclaimed tradthots. You were riding the cock carousel until you turned 40 and suddenly started to play the tradthot card. It was the biggest trend from 2015 to 2016.
You're a traditionalist yet here you are talking bullshit on Gag. Where is your masculine husband to tell you to shut your fuckin mouth and get back in the kitchen? Fuck off from the world wide web telling men what to do and how to behave themselves, if that's so you tradthot. Let men take responsibility and try to fix the damage done by women and their never-ending list for more rights and privileges.

[WowwGirl]

What are you talking about

[WowwGirl]

Who are you 😂

[yofuknutz]

Wow girl does it really matter who is the factor that is not supposed to become of our reality

[WowwGirl]

@yofuknutz I'm lost😂

[disgustingweebtrash]

She removed my opinion but I basically said "you laugh at all these insecurities for men but would expect them to support you through all yours" also trad wife in 2021 and in the west is not possible

[yofuknutz]

Oh you're lost all right

[Bored97]

TheFlak38 got you real good on his statements

I know a lot of woman like you

They put on a bravado facade of overconfidence just to come crashing down when a guy like me puts them in their place

But Theflak38 was hit the nail in the coffin about a specific comment he made about you

[Bored97]

You got this girl pretty good with all your statements

[Nina12346]

BAHAHAHA 🤣🤣🤣 dude got spunk! This is actually funny bruh not shitting you. He's right. Sighs 🤦‍♀️

[taiwaneserules]

couldnt of said it better bruh

[TruthBringer]

TRUTH BOMB DROPPED!

[AndrewAG]

Hey, @AndrewMG: Take a good look at the like-to-dislike ratio on this comment. At one time, I would have made comments supportive of @WowwGirl. It's evident to me now that she's part of the problem. I find it astounding someone with such a bad attitude has any kind of clearance to work any type of meaningful job, never mind finish a Master's degree in psychology.

[OlderAndWiser]

Guys grow up texting instead of talking on the phone or in person. . . because it's safer. So they never get any confidence and they continue to act like 14 year old boys instead of men.

I understand being anxious or shy; I certainly was when i was young. But I forced myself to call girls and talk to them and ask for dates. Sometimes, I got rejected and sometimes I got absurdly stupid excuses ("I'd love to go out Friday night but that's the night I wash my hair.") I learned that rejection didn't kill me, cost me money, or otherwise leave me with scars and I got over my fear of rejection.

As I had some success with dating, I started to develop confidence and that led to even more success. Today, I am confident enough to call a woman who I have only "met" online, have a conversation for 30-45 minutes, ask her for a date, I suggest a date, time, and place, and then I meet her and we have fun.

The digital age has turned too many boys into pussies.

[AFellowWeeb]

I actually gave a more insightful take on how we think

[WowwGirl]

@AFellowWeeb and why are you obsessed with me to the point your delusional mind believes to know me. Though we never met or even spoke till now.

That's creepy dude

[WowwGirl]

Back back up

[Unit1]

"pussies". I am more disappointed, that onlyfans became an effective business. Their revenue is generated from loser simps, who spend their own money in exchange for nudes and naked Pussy pictures when we have plenty of porn readily available 🙄

I don't blame these businessmen. I mean they're the same type, who profit from gamblers and smokers. Clever dudes!

[AndrewAP]

@OlderAndWiser: Yeah, much of what @WowwGirl posts -- I read a handful of her recent headlines -- are conjectures predicated on straw man arguments. Of course it's important for men to approach women with confidence; that's fine. But when most of the headlines read like, "Millennial Men are pussies", there's an issue. Besides, how @WowwGirl responded to @AFellowWeeb is laughable. We're on a public platform on the internet. People respond to posts on an online forum. Interactions like the one she had @AFellowWeeb do a disservice to this platform.

[Alpha09]

I mean some of these are true for some people, we've all been anxious at one point or another around the opposite sex. However we are just dating less in general, in part because women are dating less though I'm not saying that's a bad thing it's just what's happening. Also I'm noticing a trend with some women who have the highest standards, won't pay for shit and demand he be perfect. So yeah a lot of people aren't dating for a multitude of reasons, there's unreasonable expectations and demands coming from both men and women.

[MissGeorgia]

I don’t need a man to pay for me.
It’s never something I’ve ever been comfortable with. I’d rather split the cheque... or if he insists, I’ll insist on paying the next time.
If he’s generous, I’d rather it be with his time.

[WowwGirl]

If you split it he doesn't look at you romantically. Friends split checks not dates

[Random_Guy_Online]

@MissGeorgia I wish more girls thought like you. I think I can speak for a vast majority of guys here: Guys don't pay for the date because they want to. They pay for the date because they feel like they have to.

[Juxtapose]

THANK YOU @missgeorgia for not being a repulsive gold digger.

[Unit1]

THANK YOU @MissGeorgia for not being a repulsive gold digger.

Make that 2!

[MysteriousDarkness]

@WowwGirl
I kniw many couples that where each person paid for themselves on the first few dates. My girlfriend and I paid for ourselves and been together for over 7 years 3 months. I have friends who osid for themselves and been marrued for 10 years but together for 14 year. My parents been married over 40 years and both paid for themselves.

[1031ent]

Have you ever been anywhere besides America pre 2010? Splitting checks happens regularly world wide. When. I lived in Spain it was common to split the check. You really got a lot of misconceptions and issues to work through.

[TruthBringer]

@WowwGirl There is a term for that. It's called "Going Dutch". And as a Dutchman myself, I can confirm that splitting the bill has always worked flawlessly. Even though I have no issues paying for dates, I would be extremely vigilant and see it as a red-flag is the girl I'm dating doesn't offer to pay her share.

[TruthBringer]

@missgeorgia You have a good head on your shoulders! You're a good example of how a woman should think and behave in regards to this topic!

[recvcv]

have you been picked yet missgeorgia?

[Silent_Bob]

With all due respect, it's not us, it's you.

Take a tour of social media, and you'll find a lot more WOMEN who are "refusing to date" than you do men. These women generally tend to fall into three categories:

1. The "Broken Bird": These women have been deeply hurt by life experiences and have justifiable reasons to be gun shy. The "strong man who breaks through her defenses" has been a romantic plotline ever since Shakespeare was a kid. But in real life, being bothered by a persistent admirer is the last thing they need. This is the most sympathetic of the three types; though not necessarily without their own character flaws: Many of them could have avoided those cynicism-inducing past relationships if they focused more on compatibility instead of foolishly following "that spark you feel instantly".
2. The Lysistrata: These women are more or less boycotting men for whatever idiotic reason. The most common variant is a gold-digger or sour prude with an archaic view of marriage, refusing to consider a relationship where two people are pooling their resources together ("I want a husband, not a roommate" or some crap like that). Offended by the very suggestion that she modernize her expectations, she swears off men out of spite. In her mind, she's saving herself for the "Real Man" who can tolerate (and afford) her all take and no give bullcrap.
3. The Hikikomori: This actually isn't unique to women, as many "basement-dwelling" men also fit this criterion. They don't necessarily LIKE being alone, but they've found that by being alone, they can be lazy (whereas being in a relationship requires caring whether or not your significant other finds you attractive, and wanting to be better for them), and since they REALLY don't want to give up being lazy, they decide they'd rather be alone and complain.

So men face a "dating market" analogous to the following job market: You're handing out hundreds of resumes to companies for promising positions in your field of study; your education and experience SHOULD make you a contender. But none of the hiring managers are giving you the time of day. You initially think "it's a tough market, the jobs aren't there." But then you find out the jobs ARE there, but the hiring managers are just refusing to fill them for some asinine reason. You can't storm in there and say "I KNOW you have openings that I qualify for, give me a job!" because the local private sector would label you an "Entitled Creep" or "Fake Nice Guy". Any wonder that some "applicants" just give up?

It's also noteworthy that when men say they're not looking for a date/relationship they don't always mean it (whereas women are generally dead serious). When I was 22, older guys saw me struggling and said "I was like you when I was your age. Once I stopped looking/trying so hard, they came to me when I least expected it." And that ultimately turned out to be true. But that was the Gen X dating scene, when people were frank about who they were and what kind of person they were attracted to without feeling the need to apologize for either; and when women rose to the challenge of breaking through the defenses of a Snark Knight. In the current climate, everyone is walking on eggshells and tripping over themselves.

[Tiffany_Taylor_Made]

Little Dick Fear - To the men reading my answer, if you're insecure about your penis size, my advice is to focus on trying to get with women that don't care about penis size that much. They exist. Also, study the many sex positions that can make a smaller dick feel bigger. Don't let it get you down or take it seriously. Some of the most confident guys I know with little dicks are the funny/comedian type, usually openly make jokes about it, and are still able to get with women. No excuses.

Nervous Nelly's - The problem with these types of guys is that because they're nervous around women, they expect women to do the approaching for them. Unless we're desperate, that's unlikely to happen because we already have men approaching us all the time and we're accepting the men that we like. Besides, having men approach us is the best way to determine a man's confidence level, which is better than us approaching a man with no confidence whatsoever.

You Expect Her To Pay For or Split Everything - Of course this doesn't mean that women are cheap. We're just well-aware of the fact that many men do intend to use women for sex. Thus, when you're dating a guy for the first time, the best thing to do is have him pay for the first initial dates. If he was really serious about being with you, then most likely, he wouldn't mind paying. However, if he does end up using you for sex, if he did pay for the dates, then it isn't a complete lose/lose situation for you compared to you paying for all the dates and then ghosting you after sex. No feeling is worse than being pumped and dumped by a guy you really liked and spent money on.

He Waited Too Long - Definitely true. If any man wants a shot at the woman he likes, he needs to shoot his shot quickly as possible and not wait for any "signals." We're not always giving signals to men that we like. Most of the time, we start liking men the more they talk to us and get to know us. Unfortunately, these types of men that wait too long usually lack good social skills and also prefer women to do the approaching for them as well.

They Are Stuck In Their Own Heads - I agree that men that talk too much about themselves when approaching or think too hard about what to say just sound unnatural. The best way to win a woman over when approaching is to allow the conservation flow naturally, not unlike how you talk naturally when you're making another male friend. From there, she would either like you or not. If not, then move on to the next woman.

No problem. Thank you for writing it. Good Take.

[guesswhoseback]

Guys don’t obsess over penis size as much as women think they do.

[Tiffany_Taylor_Made]

@guesswhoseback: Why do you think that?

[guesswhoseback]

Because I hear women joking around this more than men. I’m a 7 incher by the way but it’s definitely not something I think about often.

[Tiffany_Taylor_Made]

@guesswhoseback: If you're really 7 inches, then you're average, so it might not likely apply to you. There are men out there that are much smaller than you, as in literally around 3-4 inches. How would you think they feel about themselves?

[guesswhoseback]

Not great. But I could be a 9 incher and if women don’t want to drop it to begin with then size is meaningless. No right minded guy is going to put his D size on a dating profile and expect to great (if any) interested women.

Plus female sexuality is much more pliable and mental. Lots of women experiment with other women when they never thought in a million years they would. I’m sure a 3 inch guy is VERY good at other things just like a woman uses her fingers & tongue to please her female partner.

I once hooked up with a girl in a very cold room. That caused some obvious problems below the belt so I did other things to please her. I guess that was my one time feeling like a 3 - 4 incher but I make it work.

[Jamie05rhs]

"No feeling is worse than being pumped and dumped by a guy you really liked and spent money on.". @Tiffany_Taylor_Made You shouldn't be spending money on any man.
You also shouldn't be putting out too quickly.

[Tiffany_Taylor_Made]

@Jamie05rhs: I agree. That's why men should pay for dates.

[Jamie05rhs]

@Tiffany_Taylor_Made I didn't say THAT. Haha. Men shouldn't be spending money on women, either.

[Tiffany_Taylor_Made]

@Jamie05rhs: Going out costs money though.

[Jamie05rhs]

@Tiffany_Taylor_Made I know. But you can just spend it on yourself. You have no obligation to pay for others.

[Tiffany_Taylor_Made]

@Jamie05rhs: If a guy that I don't know wants to take me out, then it's on him to pay for it. Simple as that. If I decide that I want to go out myself, then of course I spend money on myself because I completely trust myself and know my own intentions.

[Jamie05rhs]

@Tiffany_Taylor_Made Okay, but just don't be surprised if he wants something in return.

[Tiffany_Taylor_Made]

@Jamie05rhs: That's the thing. Men almost always want something in return. That's the point of having them pay in the first place. Whenever I enter a relationship, I'm looking for a potential husband. There is a good chance that he isn't looking for a potential wife, just sex. Thus, my view is that, in the meantime, he needs to pay until he proves that he's a future husband rather than a player. Potential husbands have no problem paying.

[Jamie05rhs]

Tiffany_Taylor_Made But this is the thing that you women don't understand. If he wants sex, of course he's going to pay. It's a reasonable trade-off.

[Boppy]

7 inches isn't average in all countries, @Tiffany_Taylor_Made

[Tiffany_Taylor_Made]

@Jamie05rhs: This isn't always the case though. Men that only want sex but are willing to pay usually go for prostitutes instead of choosing to date and waiting until the woman is ready for sex. However, in rare instances where the man really is that patient and willing to pay for dates that he really doesn't want to go on, you're right, it's a fair trade because I don't have spend any of my own money to be used.

[Jamie05rhs]

No, they don't usually go to prostitutes. Most of them prefer to do it the traditional way.

[Tiffany_Taylor_Made]

@Jamie05rhs: That doesn't make any sense. Why would a man that doesn't a relationship be willing to pay for dates with her and wait until she's ready for sex when he can get a hooker?

[Jamie05rhs]

Because hookers are taboo. They're not socially acceptable.

And it's more of an accomplishment having sex with a woman who does it freely and not out of obligation because it's a requirement of her job.

[Tiffany_Taylor_Made]

@Jamie05rhs: Even if prostitution can be considered taboo, it's still a common practice that many men partake in. If a guy only wants sex and is willing to pay for it, prostitution is still most practical solution rather than paying for dates with a woman that might not ever give it up soon enough. You also have women that are willing to have sex for free without dating simply because find you attractive enough and enjoy sex. In my personal experiences, having men pay for dates and wait until I'm ready for sex has almost always worked for me, mainly because guys that only want sex usually aren't willing to pay and wait. Guys that truly want to be with you are willing to pay enough to ensure that you both enjoy yourselves and respect if you're not willing to have sex so soon.

[Tiffany_Taylor_Made]

simply because they find you attractive enough, I meant*

[Jamie05rhs]

@Tiffany_Taylor_Made No one I know has ever been to a prostitute.

[Solo22]

@Tiffany_Taylor_Made Honestly I just stay single. Trying to find a woman who would "overlook" a small dick is like finding someone who settles for an obese or ugly person. I just think that's horrible advice to give guys hope like that cause all they are going to do is get embarrassed and rejected. If it's not good enough, let them know the truth so they won't waste the girl's time and women can be approached by men with big dicks.

[Tiffany_Taylor_Made]

@Solo22: Some women exist that don't mind small dicks. If they don't mind them, then you're not going to be embarrassed and rejected about it. To be honest, I'm not sure how common these types of women are, but they're out there. Even if you do get embarrassed and rejected, you ought to be stronger than that and move on.

[Solo22]

Remaining single, porn and prostitution are better ways of handling it.

[Jamie05rhs]

@Solo22 No; prostitution is NOT a better way of handling it.

[Tiffany_Taylor_Made]

@Solo22: What, do you have a very little dick or something?

[Solo22]

@Tiffany_Taylor_Made Not that bad but definitely not enough for an average girl. Most girls want a dick on the bigger side when it comes to a real relationship.

[Solo22]

@Jamie05rhs Why isn't it? You can practice safe sex with anyone, and prostitutes are not always crack addicts. There are some gorgeous women who will show you a good time for cash. It's straight forward, no pressure, no lies, no divorce, no being used, and no being cheated on. People are just programmed against it but don't have any real reason why two people can't do what they want to do.

[Tiffany_Taylor_Made]

@Solo22: So you rather pay a ton of money to have sex with strangers that could potentially set you up or rob you rather than find a woman that truly loves you for who you are? If you're that afraid of relationships, then your dick must be very little. What size is it?

[Solo22]

@Tiffany_Taylor_Made Well I didn't want to be that guy who posts his size. I'm not afraid of relationships and I've had a few but in the end people are gonna upgrade to the best partner they can get. That's the real reason people cheat, and sometimes things start off smooth, but then they get tired of you or they want something else (or better). You don't always have to pay a ton of money, it depends on the frequency that you need sex and you can get robbed any where. There are spouses who rob their partners blind in divorce court, so yeah you're really gambling with assets and debt when you get married. At least prostitution is a straight up one time cash deal. Don't drink anything she offers you ( so you don't get trick rolled) have a weapon stashed in the room or in your vehicle, and being sober/alert is best.

[Solo22]

@Tiffany_Taylor_Made Aside from that, prostitution is legal in some countries that's where I tried it (Germany) and I realized it's not as bad as people think it is. First one was a beautiful Iranian girl who I thought was Greek. She was actually really sweet no lie and seemed like any other young woman you would see in public. It was 50 Euro for 20 mins. So yeah if you do it all the time then yeah you're gonna be broke, but if you just need to get laid like once every 3 months I mean people blow more money on worse shit.

[Tiffany_Taylor_Made]

@Solo22: So you're fine with spending money just to fuck once every 3 months? You wouldn't want to have sex daily for free with a woman that actually loves you? What size is your dick?

[Solo22]

@Tiffany_Taylor_Made Yeah I don't really need a lot of sex. Hell I've spent more on car/home repairs, taxes, bar tabs, etc. 50 bucks for a quick release isn't bad. Aside from that, it's not really free, men spend a lot of money making their wives or girlfriends happy. I've seen guys buy women new cars, provide housing, end up paying alimony or child support, eating out on dates, etc. In the majority of serious relationships I've seen men pay something on the regular one way or another. Occasionally you'll see a guy who a woman financially supports but usually its the opposite. Some guys get paid for their dick but they must be packing if the girl pays all the bills and carries the financial weight lol.

[Solo22]

I have a thin, 5 inch penis.

[Tiffany_Taylor_Made]

@Solo22: Yes that is very little.

[Solo22]

@Tiffany_Taylor_Made True. I actually think the lack of the girth is the bigger problem, but yeah I need more length as well. So with that in mind I don't cry about it, but I accept reality and I'm not going to run off and get married like an idiot who ends up cheated on and divorced. No thanks, I'll just keep it casual or pay for pussy if I'm single and really want it.

[Tiffany_Taylor_Made]

@Solo22: Sounds defeatist, but whatever makes you happy!

[Solo22]

@Tiffany_Taylor_Made How is that defeatist? I'm making the best out of life with the hand I was dealt with. Marriage is outdated anyway, and I'm still healthy and successful so I count my blessings I just don't delude myself into thinking I'm a woman's first choice in a man. Women are selective and are looking for the "perfect" one, and Men want as much sex as possible with many partners. It's just the way the genders are wired.

[Tiffany_Taylor_Made]

@Solo22: Marriage isn't outdated. Plenty of people exist that are in good marriages and all the husbands don't have big dicks. Yet, despite that, you chose the take the route that you feel has less risks and probably doesn't make you fully happy as you could be.

[Solo22]

"First off, if a man can’t bear the thought of being dumped for incompatibility in bed, in general, or because his penis is too small, in particular, then he probably shouldn’t be dating anyway."

"Basically, you are afraid you won't perform in the bedroom up to her standards. You're afraid that your four inches just isn't enough."

Literally from the article, and you're best advice is just throw yourself out there at women and try to get married? Getting used and divorced is not the best life. Women who overlook small dicks, are just trying to get other things aside from sex. I'd rather keep my money and not gamble my assets, be sexually active when I want to, and deal with no shit. Sorry but that's horrible advice that your giving to guys who aren't packing. Better just to deal with the truth and make the best of life. A piece of paper from the court doesn't make me happy, having fun does. Men could stack their money, get nice houses, vehicles, gaming systems, pay for fine ass poon (can't keep her but it's still fun), travel, enjoy beaches, buy a boat etc. The fuck I want to get into a business contract for that's going to fail? It's easier for a woman to fuck a small dick once than expect her to put up with it for a lifetime. Naw I'm good and any dude who is smart knows the same thing.

[Tiffany_Taylor_Made]

@Solo22: The problem with your post is that it focuses too heavily on negative outcomes. You claim that women that overlook little dicks are just using men for other things than sex. That's not always true. You believe that being in relationships is "gambling your assets," which is, again, not always true. You're entirely worried about negative outcomes. Not attempting to take on any challenge or goal because you're worried about a negative outcome is a defeatist mentality. The fact is that women exist that don't care too much for size. For example, if your dick is little, there is a great chance that many men in your family have little dicks too. How are their relationships working out? Also, if you date a woman that truly loves you for you and not what you have, you wouldn't have to worry about your assets. The thing is finding the perfect woman takes effort, wisdom, and time. Yet, because you're so terrified of a negative outcome, you're not even attempting to look for it. Not all marriages fail, nor are they all business contracts. Like I said, it depends on the woman you choose. You would know that she's out there if you don't attempt to find her. My advice is simply for you to stop being a total pussy and get out that defeatist mentality. The option is always there for you, but you're just too scared to pursue it.

[Solo22]

@Tiffany_Taylor_Made I'm good. I'm doing really good in my life right now, plus I'm divorced from a 4 year marriage that was during my 20's though that was a while ago. I'll date, work, move, do whatever I want to do, I don't need marriage for any of that, period. Even if I had a big dick, marriage still isn't for me, it would just allow me to have better chances with women and have better sex. That's not being a pussy, that's just accepting the reality. If you want to get married be my guest. Over 50 percent of marriages fail, and it's not always due to infidelity, drug abuse, or obvious character flaws. Sometimes girls just find another man and want out, or vice versa. I own my house, I'm building up wealth and I'm definitely not going to gamble it for some foolish attempt to make something work that in the end, probably isn't going to work. As for the family, I don't know if they have small dicks or not, or if I'm the unlucky one, but yeah only my sister is still married so I guess there's that. Rest is just girlfriend's or fuck buddies and they all doing good though. We'll see if you still with yours after 5 years. Some marriages make it, many do not. People have a lot of options, meeting people is easy, and people also don't tolerate shit. If they not happy with something, then they're out. That's how it is. I can literally vacation to Brazil, Israel, Australia, Mexico (boys town), etc have a good time and get laid by gorgeous women, smoke weed, do whatever I want to do. Then I can come home buy a Quad, a boat etc. I'm actually happy like dude that life is not for everyone. For me I've seen the light and there is just no going back. It's not even a depressed thing, I just got exposed to something better. There are so many fine ass women and everyone wants their own money that's life.

[Solo22]

I got a puerto rican friend right now who is 50 years old and a truck driver. Not in the greatest of shape. He met this fine 26 year old Dominican chick in Florida. He's like hell yeah I pay for it, she usually just wants help with her bills or money, and they both know what it is. She came out of a relationship with a dude who didn't do anything for her. Young guy, got her pregnant, didn't work or pay shit or help take care of the kid and in the end left her high and dry. This girl is gorgeous, I'd help her out too and be on my way. It's that easy, you're not missing anything.

[Tiffany_Taylor_Made]

@Solo22: That's not the only aspect of reality. As for the claim that over 50% of marriages fail, that's not true. It's more like 39%. Either way, that doesn't mean much of anything. Their marriages aren't your marriage. Many marriages fail because of a lack of effort to keep them maintained. It could be because both parties were using each other, lack of communication, or that one did something to ruin the relationship. Stop trying to make it seem as if women are the sole reason relationships end. Men can do things that could end relationships as well. Men could want out as well. I've been in terrible relationships over the years with men that were physically and verbally abusive, liars, cheaters, using me for sex, and otherwise didn't have any respect for me or my privacy. Still, I never once gave up on men. I learned how to choose to better men and now I have a fiancee. Sure, I could be happy being alone with my career, money, and material possessions, but I could be even happier sharing those things with a man that actually loves me for who I am, and I am. There is absolutely nothing stopping you from finding this woman as well except for, like I said, you being a pussy. You're so scared of negative consequences to where you're not even willing to work for positive ones. That is literally a scared, cowardly defeatist mentality you have. I mean, if you really want to spend the rest of your life alone with the wealth you've built, then be my guest. You're a grown 35-year-old man. Do you what you want. All I'm saying is don't try to make it seem like women and marriage are the problem. It's the fact that you don't know how to choose a good woman and that you're too scared even to attempt it is the real problem.

[Tiffany_Taylor_Made]

@Solo22: What do you expect with that relationship regarding the truck driver? He's old enough to be her father.

[Jamie05rhs]

@Solo22 People are absolutely being used. On both sides.

[Jamie05rhs]

@Tiffany_Taylor_Made 5 inches isn't "very little." It's small, but it's also average.

[Jamie05rhs]

@solo22 Do YOU want sex with many partners? Is that a motivating factor for you?

[Solo22]

Agree to disagree then. Not everyone wants marriage, and true sometimes it is men I did throw in the vice versa. All I'm saying is I found what makes me happy. I'm still a calm chill person, I like to work hard and have my fun. Either way best of luck.

[Tiffany_Taylor_Made]

@Jamie05rhs: 5 inches is literally the same length as a can of Pepsi. That's very small. "Average" for who exactly? White guys?
@solo22: Yes, hiding behind your material wealth, defense mechanisms, and not tackling your insecurities makes you "happy." Enjoy life I guess.

[Jamie05rhs]

@Tiffany_Taylor_Made "you're not even attempting to look for it" Well, I am (in italics) looking for it. But I haven't had any luck so far, unfortunately.
So, in his defense, ... it's hard.

[Jamie05rhs]

@Tiffany_Taylor_Made ""Average" for who exactly? White guys?" Okay- you went there. I didn't. Lol.

[cth96190]

I am a bit of everything on that list.
Women have hurt me so much throughout my life that I have learned to stay away.
Women approach me, usually while I am working. All my life I have been told that I was good looking and thanks to army service I know how to wear a uniform.
As the women speak, I hear the voices of hundreds of females who rejected me when I was younger.
Their faces morph into a montage of the faces of a hundred bitchy rejections.
In my mind, I question their motives and suspect everything.
The middle-aged women at church who go out of their way to speak to me I also regard with extreme suspicion. They are a collection of widows, divorcees and never-married career-driven women who realised too late that the Feminists had lied to them.
The freakiest situation is when I provide security at weddings and other black-tie events. The mothers of the bridesmaids and the maiden aunts acquire me on their targeting radar in seconds.
If a female impresses me and circumstances permit, I might make an approach.
I have not had a positive response for 20 years.
I just have to accept that I am damaged, crap with women and whatever it is that women want I am not it.
There is also the considerable legal risk that men face today.
One false allegation by an insane or spiteful woman can end a man's life.
That is why a wear a bodycam that is disguised as a pen.

[WowwGirl]

Sorry their are a couple good ones left

[ragequeen]

Good list! Other important things to mention is that toxic femininity and modern feminism has degraded the male sex to the point that their say is of little value anymore. The woman is told by society that she is in control, that she can be the man of the relationship, thus no longer needs a man in her life. When women think they can put on typical male responsibilities (working, not wanting to cook or clean and be put on a pedestal) they no longer have shit to bring to the table. Women today expect to be respected and seen as strong independent women, and claim they don't need no man. Most relationships today don't work because women have become bitter and refuse to accept the fact that men and women are different and possess different qualities. Women are biologically more nurturing, caring and clean and provide for the man IF he has something to provide as well. Men are biologically more protective, wanting to provide security etc. This is the only reason why monogamy has worked for humans because they balance out each other's needs. But today women don't want to embrace their qualities and would rather degrade men and put themselves on top.

[guesswhoseback]

Thank you for acknowledging that. Not all women are like that but too many are. It’s a two way street.

The thing is the effort, chivalry and resources of men are finite. If we get screwed over a few times we start becoming risk averse. We find the dating game brings more downsides than upsides. Then many of us give up.

I’m personally not “giving up” but I’m extremely careful on who I invest my energy with.

[VanillaSalt]

Lol you hear about that stranger a few years back who stopped to help a woman with her tire and then weeks later he was arrested for trying to assault her?

I personally got yelled at by an Arab woman at Walmart about 6 years ago for opening the milk door and holding it for her...

With women like these out there who needs enemies.

[guesswhoseback]

@VanillaSalt if what this woman accused this guy of was true than this is gross (and sad). But it’s her word and against his. Usually her word wins www.google.com/.../%3Famp

[VanillaSalt]

He got off it was recorded on the gas station camera... she suffered no consequences.

[guesswhoseback]

@VanillaSalt so she made all that disgusting bullshit up? If there was any justice in this world she would be sentenced the exact same punishment he would of suffered if he was found guilty. Plus her mugshots and identity would be plastered all over the place so the entire world knows what a sociopathic piece of shit she is. Smdh.

[Hallie4]

Feminism is equality seeking. Only people subscribing to the continued historical notion of masculinity (which can be toxic too, ie read any major domestic violence statistics recently?) might believe it's a gender or sex competition, where one has to be better than the other, or feels the upswing in female rights consequently causes a decrease in men's. So it's about equality, not competition. Sounds like the idea of working outside the home, advocating for accessible child care, quality education, eliminating the gender pay gap, calling for adequate PATERNITY as well as maternity leave, supporting emotional expression in men, and more inclusion of fathers in perinatal care, creates a ticket for you to return straight back to the '50's, ragequeen.

[VanillaSalt]

@hallie4 Except you women still have privilege in many forms but want equality in other ways on top of that

[cth96190]

@VanillaSalt
Women ARE the enemy.

[guesswhoseback]

@cth96190 no the real enemy is white knight dipshit guys who sold us out by supporting modern feminism.

[cth96190]

@VanillaSalt
Yeah, he 'got off' . . . after the lying psycho bitch had destroyed his marriage, his job, had made him homeless and he had spent time in prison.
Bitches who make false allegations should serve the same time in prison that the man would have, if he had been convicted as a result of her lies.

[MrOracle]

All of these issues exist, but even the men that have some issues usually only have, at most, 2 or 3 of these (which is still often a problem). But there's something else that needs to be said:

Women don't all want the same thing either, and that's okay too. Different types of guys match well with different types of girls.

One big thing that guys have a problem with, though, is the women who want things both ways. They want all the benefits of Feminism (equality, if not superiority over the men, prioritizing their careers, etc.) AND still retain all the benefits of Chivalry/"traditional relationships" (men asking them on dates, men paying for everything, men protecting and providing, etc.). Women need to pick one or the other, but if you insist on trying to get both, men are increasingly not interested at all - we'll pursue someone else or find something else to do.

That's really the biggest reason men aren't dating today: if sex is the only thing she's bringing to the table in a relationship, but she has a list of 200 demands and expectations, why is a relationship better for the man than just having casual sex with another girl? Men can get sex someplace else.

Women love to have lists of demands that men must have in order to be eligible to date her, but if you ask most women what THEY bring to the table, you mostly just get blank stares - that's not something most women have ever even considered.

[dmgstarfleet]

most women are sitting on the only thing they bring to the relationship and its not unique or special-close your eyes and one feels pretty much the same as another. Yet they have laundry lists of what they "require" in men despite their own glaring flaws

[msc545]

@dmgstarfleet well said

[markml]

I'm sorry, but I don't exactly buy most of this. My thoughts:

Men have stopped dating, because they think women are crazy. And unfortunately, many are. Of course, it's more fair to say that society as a whole has gotten pretty crazy, and that includes both genders.

It's a little too easy to blame the opposite gender for dating problems today. Believe me, I've done it. But the truth is we all collectively should take some blame. We are a lost generation that has forgotten almost all of the "common sense" of our parents and grandparents.

And even if someone taught you that "common sense", you'll struggle to figure out how to apply it in a world where nobody else has it. So without it, we replace it with primitive myths, or fairytales from long long ago.

Believing in "alpha males" is like believing in Santa Claus. Sounds great, but past a certain age you should know it's not real. When someone climbs down your chimney, you call the police, or else you're getting conned. We are the most spoiled generation in history, and most men and women today are pathetic, so what does "alpha male" even mean in that context? It's a term that applies to wolves, not humans, anyway. You turn to fairytales to avoid looking in the mirror.

We lie to ourselves all the time, and grow more and more delusional.

If you actually have your head on straight, your #1 criteria is to date someone else with their head on straight.

[Mehzmeh]

I think that's the reason I, get a lot of dates. I don't consider myself a alpha male. But, I do consider myself a a real man. I pay for everything. I am able to talk to any female. When I go in for the good bye hug. I give her a kiss on the cheek. 9 X out of 10. She pulls me back in and kisses me. And then I pull away and say. Next time. Why? Because I never sleep with her on the first date. Now, if we are hanging out and she gives me the sign. And we agree it's just a booty call. Then it is what it is. And I, am a nice looking guy. I am just very confident. Lol. Yeah, I am damn good shape (built, 6 pack, very low body fat count). And I am a gentleman. And if a female tells me no. I take it as her loss. And I, usually end up sleeping with her friend (not even joking it has happened more than I would like to admit). And she tells her. And I have a code. Don't sleep with your sex partners friend. Ever!! Okay thats enough of that. What I am trying to say. Is you are spot on again. Damn shame you have to put this up for the snowflakes.

[WowwGirl]

You and @OlderAndWiser are one of few who understand this

[JayParris]

I usually at least somewhat agree with what you post, but I think you missed the mark with this one. It kinda sounds like sour grapes on your part.

The most common reasons I've discussed with other men are all variations of 'women aren't worth dating anymore'. They don't value men. They don't have much to offer in a relationship. Too much risk, too much time, money, and effort, and very little reward. I've known guys who dated women, only to be accused of rape when her husband's friends caught her cheating and the poor guy didn't even know she was married (the husband was deployed and she removed all trace of him from her apartment). I've known women who would go on a few dates with a guy just to eat and go to the movies for free, then drop him for the next sucker in line... and it continued that way for years. I've known women who date men, have sex with them for a few weeks, start acting like a complete lunatic to run him off, and then accuse him of being a fuckboy because he left. There really aren't very many good women out there.

[Skankhunt]

Fear:
Fear of rejection
Fear of being cheated on
Fear of being used
Fear of your girlfriend will leave you
Fear of not being really loved
Fear of losing your freedom
Fear of being unhappy in a relationship/marriage
Fear of wasting your time with the wrong woman
Fear of being trapped
Not wanting to be stuck paying alimony
Fear of not being understood
Fear of abuse
Fear of intimacy
fear of commitment
Fear of being vulnerable with your girfriend
Fear of being hurt emotionally
Fear of not being treated seriously
Trust issues
They fear their girlfriend will use their weaknesess against them or will it to someone else
Dating is exhausting
Men are exhausted
Men don't want desperate girlfriends
Men don't want superficial girlfriends
Men feel like women ar enot their priority
Bad experiences in relationships
Men feel like women have high unrealistic expectations
Men feel like they don't need women
Having a relationship/marriage is not always fun
Men are afraid of not being respected
Men feel like women take them for granted
Men don't want to deal with manipulative girlfriends
Men fear they will be used for their money
Online dating feels like browsing through a catalog for a girlfriend (feels unpersonal) Online dating stress, girls won't reply back and therefore feeling like you are wwasting your time.
Not wanting to be in a relationship
You like your freedom
You don't have time for relationships
You don't want to waste tehir time on dating
They feel like woman are a waste of time
Men want to do their own things without having a girlfriend
Women can make a big scene over nothing
Men don't want to deal with fights (verbal) all the time

[Iknowbestgirls]

Every single girl I've ever dated has cheated on me. I shouldn't known better since they weren't quality women and I didn't have the confidence then that I do now.
You fail to realize just how fickle you women can be. It's easy for woman to get any man they want where as the man has to do all the work and the pressure is all on him. We shouldn't have to impress women with our wallets. That just reinforces that woman are gold diggers. There's nothing wrong with expecting to split a bill especially if it's a first date. That's called equality, isn't that what feminism is about equality between both men and women? Why would we spend all that money if we still don't know you that well and don't know if there will even be a second date let alone go too bed with us? You don't understand the insecurities a man can feel about his body like women can feel about there's.
Don't get me wrong I'm not trying to make excuses for weak men but women have their part to play in dating as well it's not all up to the man. Equality is what we ask for, isn't that what woman have been trying to accomplish for a long time? Now that you have it, you still want to make the man do all the work? Sorry girl but that's just not happening, at least not with me, I've treated woman special before payed for everything been a take charge kinda guy and women still are untrustworthy and unfaithful.
Well that's my opinion on the matter I hope it convinces you see the roles in dating in a different light.

[Calgarydirty69]

ALL women like to cheat, that's why you need an open relationship

[Shuttlebus78]

Maybe because you think you know best... Calgary- no not all women cheat. Maybe you attract loose women because you think that way.

[lucas262]

For me, im not into hook up culture so that eliminate a lot of the motivation to ,, date,,

Being redpilled iv seen and learned too much about the wrong kind of women to play games, be played with or take risk. Or just be used in general.

Iv a lot of baggage from my childhood and I honestly don't want more emotional stress in my life

Being Christian i don't believe in being tied to a non believer

So 4 reasons I don't want to date/have a relationship.

Some things could be great about it but others could make life very hard and the last thing id want to make life hard for another person.

I'm on my purpose, im getting my shit together, I know what I want and ill know if when I see it. Lot of people have made fun of me, lot of people asking me why I dont have a girlfriend why I don't want 1. As if I can't be a man alone and be happy?

These days in my opinion women namely offer resentful sex in return for what a man brings to a table, not all but certainly people who follow the new feminist ideal of not serving/taking care of your man.

The juice ain't worth the squeeze.

[Petra150]

From what I hear from my stepsons and my own hubbys experience and several friends , guys now day are hunted animals, they in my point of view have been gmqyite a while, but no absolutely no woman or for that danke any other men what to hear a guy complain. Now in too of every other accusations we have thrown in the head by the men, for for a long time ME TOO is arrived only causing more insecurity among men , and not even serious crimes get ponish as hard a guy who might just have kissed a woman 25 years ago , her having a great pleasure if the kiss at that time, and now suddenly rather prefer a great amount of money instead. And ofcauce the horribel shallowness shown by my younger gender , causes uncertainty too , a guy need to be at least 6-8" taller than a woman today to be worthy a look , or having a million $ on his bank account. And still a super tall massmuder or chield abuser might trill them more than a hard working great personality guy , who only crime is that he only measures 180 cm in height. Yes it's very understandable guys keep away from dating , but also dam sadly

[Kiss_Me]

WoW. What a biased and presumptuous post.

Remember that genders feed off each other when developing social norms. I agree that many young males have allowed themselves to spin in a negative direction. There is a hint (Some, but not as much as you think) of truth in your post, but it fails to acknowledge how or why females have influenced these negative trends.

Why should a guy want a relationship when sex is sooooo readily available. When you couple our "Fuck first, relationship later" dating practice and the large array of hook up apps used to find partners, why would a young guy ever pursue a relationship?

Other issues of influence are the legal environment women have created. Women have effectively weaponized the courts by seeking prosecution or ANYTHING. Often times waiting years to report it until it's financially advantageous to do so.

The hard truth is the sexual power of women is becoming less significant. Virtually gone are days of desiring a particular person. It has been replaced with wanting sex with anyone. Guys see women as vagina # 2657841. If it is busy with another guy, it may cycle around to them eventually. If not, there are many others to take its place.

The really scary part is women are viewing men the same way. This really needs to stop.

[Impalitteri]

A lot of men don't date because dating is nothing but a headache. In 2022 a lot of people are entitled and have unrealistic standards. This seems to be way more prevalent in America. As men we have to weigh our life, independence, financial stability, and freedom against our desire for companionship. It only takes one accusation to bring a man to ruin. The risk isn't usually worth the reward.

I don't see anything wrong with wanting to spit the bill or "going Dutch". Why people are against this is quite baffling. It gives both parties the chance to get to know each other, and there is no unwanted obligatory feelings for the woman or feeling taken advantage of for men. I've seen so many posts about girls going on dates only for the free food or whatever and have no genuine interest in the guy taking them out. Why does the man HAVE to pay for your time and attention? Isn't his time and attention equally valuable? If you equate a mans "generosity" with his finances to interest, it shows there are serious misconceptions about interest. I also find it amusing when people claim to be traditionalist when it comes to dating. This would entail brief chaperoned period of dating, followed by the soon to be brides family providing the man a dowery of sorts, followed by, the woman being at home barefoot and pregnant. It seems "traditionalists" cherry pick certain archaic traditions to hold onto. They want the best of both worlds, the rights and freedoms of women in 2022 which is understandable. They also want men to hold onto the same gender role of the 1700s which is absurd.

[I-C3_ME]

I'm just gonna go over every topic with numbering cuz it's the most logical to me:

1. Tiny penis, i never had a problem with this but even if i did I've come to realise, it's not the size that matters. The only thing that matters is what you can do with it.

2. Overthinking is the bane of most of my male friends (sometimes me 2) i always have to remind them, rule 1 stay chill. Otherwise you'll just kill the mood and blow your chance.

3. Paying shouldn't be a requirement, especially on the first date. If she offers to pay just hit her with the "you know what? Why don't you pay next time..." she's flattered and you've scored yourself a second date (if the date went well).

4. Waiting to long? YEP, been there and my buddy always does the same thing. Like you said, women like a men who takes charge but if you shoot your shot you'll learn something even if it fails.. in Flemish we have a saying "niet geschoten is altijd miss!" Meaning "If you never shoot, you'll always miss"

5. I feel like this is the same as point 2 so just read my answer their XDD

anyways this was a good take, though it saddens me some guys are lost in the "women will never want me" mindset. I myself never can hold that state for long... I'm a hopeless romantic you see. So as long as i hold breath i shall be making women feel special, BUT if any of them is able to tolerate me enough... that woman is gonna be insanely happy XD

[Wwwyzzerdd]

Women expect men to pay their way but offer virtually nothing in return. Don't say pussy bc if we give her dick then then the only thing she's giving is something given away anyway, charging for free.

It's a double standard that men should pay her way, why isn't the expectation that men have women pay for them? Why shouldn't men have women be the providers? Why must men solely carry that double standard and so many others?

Women that do this are not fair, there isn't equality, who cares if they say they're feminist they do not view/treat men as equals.

Alpha males don't exist, it's a made up term from these podcast guru's that spin shit that sounds good to their audience. It's another double standard, putting someone in a box and expecting them to think outside that box. A rich spoiled brat with a lifted F-150, yacht and gym membership doesn't make the guy a leader, it simply means he can afford to present himself in a particular way to society. Y'all seem to forget that in nature a pack leader is exactly that, a leader that protects the pack for the entire pack's survival. Yet people seem to think that being an Alpha male means they can fuck and spend and fuck and spend.

That Alpha Beta bullshit goes out the window when a person becomes a parent, suddenly it doesn't matter what BS label some dipshit podcaster assigns to men who don't make the same life choices they did. Even then it's usually a front for what sounds good on radio/print rather than something that actually can be applied to real life in a healthy way.

So it's BS. Some consumerist garbage that was made to sell subscriptions.

[Praisethewalls]

I just had this crazy thought what if it's now hear me out what if it's the fact that women don't put out as much as they did in the 70s and 80s. What if now hear me now what if women have now turned sex which is a level of intimacy that is expressed between the sexes and a form of communication women have turned into strick opportunism where men are tricked into paying for a woman who doesn't want them and they go back to their fuckboys. I mean come on I'm on the better end of this argument and I'm tired of the BS men don't want to spend money and waste time there's no Proving Ground and no ambiguity you either get the girl or you don't. you are either better than her so she respects you or have lesser than you so she tries to use you. Sex is so opportunistic that women claim that if you say one bad thing about women you're not having sex my pictures over 9 inches and I'm banging my ex but it just shows how capitalistic and pointless dating is. Between the two sexes women can ask about height and demand that you have a good car before you even meet them. Even if you were on the better side of this what are you actually winning aside from sex I mean it's great but that's really all you can get out of woman

[hahahmm]

The reason guys no longer want to pay for dates is that women enjoy the freedom of not being loyal. Many women outright say that it's their right to date multiple guys simultaneously whenever they feel like it. Women used to at least keep that to themselves and the guy had the illusion that he was being given a fair shot at winning her. If you can't offer any loyalty/fair shot then you're in the same category as the street hooker and men don't buy street hookers dinner. Yes, this is a harsh statement but it's also true.

[Juxtapose]

Amen.

[Floppy2112]

What's in it for us? We have to do everything to start a relationship and we get rejected most of the time. And when we don't we get some over-privileged, over demanding drama queen who is miserable to be around that won't go away. Where is the incentive?
Yet in your post you are denigrating and disparaging men, while at the same time telling them not to be afraid?
Men don't want to date all that much because it's a miserable pain in the ass and we end up on the losing side most of the time.
So many men aren't going to waste their time taking a chance on a date when the odds are stacked against us and we face the threat of being falsely accused of sexual malfeasance even if no such thing happened. The mere accusation can ruin our lives permanently. Why should we take the chance?

[ThisIsMyOpinion]

If we go for the bitch one that makes no effort while dating we just need to let her go and move on. If we are rejected then fine, NEXT! Easy. Eventually the right one will come.

[WowwGirl]

@ThisIsMyOpinion everyone gets rejected it's how you handle it afterwards

[Floppy2112]

It's not about rejection, though it sucks. We put a tremendous amount of effort into the pursuit, in every aspect of our lives. There is no reciprocity. And women, with just a word, can *ruin* a man's life by making him out to be something bad, simply because the date didn't go well.
This is a real risk, I have seen the effects of false accusations and they are pretty terrifying.
For us, it's not just a matter of rejection, but a legit possibility that this woman can ruin you, if she wants to.

[ThisIsMyOpinion]

Is that a thing is the US? Here in Portugal if a girl just tries to ruin you for no reason with no proof she will be looked at as insane.

[Floppy2112]

@ThisIsMyOpinion Yes, this is an American phenomenon primarily.

[dmgstarfleet]

"The truth is that women are drawn to an Alpha Male who is proactive, confident and able to take control." However, if you misread our signal and make a pass we will sue you, call you out publicly, and DOX you. "I'm not saying that women are cheap. I'm saying that women like a man who is generous when it comes to his attempt to woo her / win her over in the beginning of dating."-problem is the point where she occasionally goes dutch or even picks up an occasional tab never seems to come. Truth is women, especially American Women have an entitlement attitude and at the same time don't bring much more than their vagina to the game. And-news flash-its not special or in short supply. Would men like to have a meaningful relationship? Absolutely. But there are very few worthy women out there-most are arrogant and entitled