Guys, do you think Victoria's Secret models are overrated?

[DaveyYourFavey]

I personally think they're just tooo skinny. I mean I'm not trying to put down skinny girls or anything, but I don't understand why some girls idolize them and want so badly to look like them. I just think they're too bony, way, way tooooo skinny. Do many of you guys actually find their body attractive?

[Anonymous]

They're overrated in the matter that they are the "perfect" women. They are extremely attractive, I won't deny that. I'd love to spend a night in bed with any one of them. However, I don't even wanna know what they put themselves through to be like they are. Also I much prefer a fit woman with some small muscles (not like veins or anything but muscles). Carrie underwoods legs I would use as a PERFECT example. on my opinion she is my perfect woman. I find her much more attractive than the VS models, and I'm sure her lifestyle is much healthier, she prob eats healthy but doesn't starve herself but instead eats and works out. I think most guys find that more attractive! But let's be real, we dont expect girls to be that status like you can expect us to be Channing Tatum. But just giving my input. :-) yes I think VS models are overrated but not but a whole lot. And for girls beat skinny girls any day of the week!

[Opinion Owner]

Just to add to this. As I said VS models are overrated but not by much. I would never ask or expect a girl to sacrifice what those girls sacrifice to a grove such status. I'd prefer a girl with healthy habits.

[mr90skid]

They're really overrated/unattractive to me too man!! Celebrities too. Society tells us to drool over ( Sofia Vergara, Kate Upton, Taylor Swift, Ariana Grande, Iggy Azalea, Katharine Mcphee) but I don't really find them attractive.
Everyday women >>>>>> Celebrities and VS Models

[DaveyYourFavey]

Yes, you are right. I see much hotter women in public all the time!

[BuchitaBuchys]

"I'm not trying to put down skinny girls or anything. .
I just think they're too bony, way, way, way tooooo skinny. .
Do many of you guys actually find their body attractive?"

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You again. You have not learned how to make non thin women feel better without putting down thin women huh?

Not everyone likes what you like. I don't know why that's so hard for you to comprehend.
Sorry that skinny women look how we do. You know how some bigger women sometimes can't help the way they look? Yea, sometimes slim women can't help it either.

But I see your trying to make other women feel better. You STILL haven't learned how to do that without putting down other women. Second attempt. This time, D+ for effort.

[DaveyYourFavey]

You can't judge me from that other question, thats completely unfair. It was a complete misunderstanding, I did not mean to come off that way. Get over it.
Here I stated my own opinion and it is my own opinion not that of other guys. I asked other guys for their opinions, so why won't you leave me alone?
VS models are not your average or natural skinny girl. They are the result of constant exercising and dieting. Hardly any girls look like them but so many want to so badly. So get over yourself.
People have different opinions to me and others have the same. Here, I'm trying to here those different opinions.

Seriously, cut me some slack, you're just judging me. No one who hadn't read the before question gave a negative answer to this one. Just stop trying to talk down to me and leave me alone.

[BuchitaBuchys]

The only way you could ever get someone as annoying and judgmental as me to stop calling you out on your shit, is if you block me. Go ahead. Go to my profile, and click block user. I will never be able to comment nor interact with you again.

So I can't judge you from the other question, but you can judge me from the other response?
Hmmmmmm. . .

Just because VS models are not average, it doesn't mean they're freaks of nature or something.
Since when is eating right and exercising a bad thing?

Yes, people do have opinions than you, just like this one. Did you really expect for everyone to agree with you? No. I'm sorry. But we all won't.

I am cutting you slack, I see your effort, But you're doing the same shit. Saying "I'm not trying to put down skinny women but. . " is the same thing as "no offense but. . ." or "not to sound racist but. . " or any other thing like that. It doesn't negate the insults you say.

[DaveyYourFavey]

They under eat and over exercise. Since when was that a good thing? I've already said that I know everyone has a different opinion. Of course I don't expect everyone to agree with me? Why are you saying that?
You're just looking to pick fights that no one learns or benefits from. That's really pathetic

[BuchitaBuchys]

Not all of them. In fact, many of them are just very athletic and train like in boxing or martial arts. They may look "thin and weak" but could probably kick some ass.

You say you don't expect everyone to agree with you, yet you're saying "stop judging me, it's unfair" to whoever does disagree with you. Clearly, you did expect for everyone to say "yea! Skinny women are ugly!"

I'm not picking fights. But you just haven't realized how thin shaming is as pathetic as fat shaming. Except one is seen as socially acceptable now.
You have not learned how to make one group of woman's body feel better without shaming another one. It's sad. And what's sadder is that people like you (based on other comments you wrote) get pissed that this is the ideal. You just wanna make YOUR preference the ideal.

I don't like any ideals. It shouldn't be fat or thin women. Not tall nor short. Not any of these bodies cuz people can't learn how to fucking stop comparing women's bodies without shaming.

[Elzie_Sky]

Those girls starve themselves a week before the fashion show. They dont drink any liquids two days before the show. It is not healthy and not normal. Yes, there are skinny girls where they can eat whatever they want and not gain weight, but they are no where near that skinny.

Also, as a female who does train both boxing and martial arts, I have never met another female that are anywhere near the size of victoria secret models. There are some that are very lean, but have muscles larger than the size of a victoria secret models arm.

I am not putting skinny girls down, it just has to be known. PEOPLE (not just girls) who eat and exercise are not that skinny.

[BuchitaBuchys]

@Elzie_Sky I don't really follow much about them. I'm not in particular interested in models, nor any celebrities.
I did see a commercial of Adriana Lima doing boxing. She may not do it professionally, but she still does it.

I have friends who are as thin as those models. And they eat A LOT. They have thigh gaps and everything. They don't even work out. They're just super model skinny.

[DaveyYourFavey]

My preferences are not the ideal. Maybe some people's ideals, but not everyone's. I know that and I never said my preferences are ideal, I did not even imply it.

I don't expect people to like the exact same thing as me, everyone likes something different. I just like putting my own opinion in my question to make it personal or to give people an example of an opinion.

And are you crazy? Look around. Almost every girl thinks vs models are perfect (as expected). And even a few of the guys like them too. I'm not pissed at those people. I'm not saying they're judging me. Do you see any angry comments under their opinions except from each other? I asked them a question and they answered it with they're own personal opinion.

The reason I commented on yours was because you just came out of no where and attacked me for no apparent reason. I commented to find out why and thats how I found out you were being judgmental.

Just please leave me alone, you have no argument. I've explained it all

[BuchitaBuchys]

There shouldn't be any fucking ideal is the point. The thing people keep doing is trying to make their preference the ideal. That doesn't help shit.

Are you crazy? Literally, everywhere, men always say "ewww. I don't like models. They're too thin. Give me tits and ass".
I always hear that shit.
We get it. We fucking get it. Big boobs, big asses are what men want.
And every other girl who doesn't have big tits and asses are horrible ugly creatures who should die of starvation cuz we're thin and it's assumed that we MUST starve ourselves cuz we're thin.
-______-

[Elzie_Sky]

Ah yes the thigh gap! Praise to the lords.
lol, no I don't follow celebrities and models or anything. But I do a bit of design work for some extra cash and sometimes it includes photography and Photoshopping so I read a lot of articles about appearances and everything. -Just a note a 'thigh gap' is based on bone structure it doesn't have anything to do with weight- I know this because someone came to me wanting all the girls in their magazine to have a thigh gap, despite they were all beautiful and really slim anyways. When you deal with that and those kinds of people you just get a sour taste for the whole subject.

[DaveyYourFavey]

So what you're saying is that every man should like every single shape and size of woman?
No offense, but thats a wild dream of a perfect world. Guys are naturally attracted to that because of their biology. Wide hips for child bearing, big boobs for whatever. Its because of evolution. So that the human race can survive. It's not mens fault. There has to be ideals, I mean, its actually science.

But if you're comfortable it the skin you're in and strut your stuff with confidence you'll be as attractive as any bib boobed, wide hipped girl. Trust me ;)

[BuchitaBuchys]

@Elzie_Sky I am well aware of that. It's based on the bone structure. I've seen larger women with thigh gaps (they weren't obese, but they weren't the "stick thin" types of girls who typically have them).

As I said, I think all these fucking ideals are just trash. Taller isn't better, skinny isn't better, thigh gaps/no thigh gaps isn't better. It's all subjective shit. There are ugly skinny girls. Ugly fat girls. Ugly tall girls, ugly short girls.

I'm so fucking done with everyone's damn ideals. People seem to not be able to make one woman feel better without shaming another.
Fuck me sideways.
When will we figure this shit out?

[Elzie_Sky]

Lol beats me girl.

I always for people minding their own damn business. >^.^<

[BuchitaBuchys]

I'm not saying that at all. I don't believe that bullshit "Everyone is beautiful/perfect the way they are".

It's fine to have your preferences. But to knock someone else's preferences is where I take issue.
You can say:
"I like big women." Do I have a problem with that? No.
But to say
"I like big women. Skinny girls are so bony and they look like they need a hotdog. Eww they're disgusting. Do any men REALLY find them attractive?"
Is a COMPLETELY different thing to say.

I have small boobs. But I don't want guys saying things like:
"I prefer small boobs. Big boobs are just ugly and they're in the way and they make the girl look fake and slutty."
How the fuck does that make me feel better?
Great. You just put down another woman to make me feel better? That shit isn't "empowering" at all.

I'm not berating you on your preference. I'm just criticizing on how you express them.
I understand not everyone likes the same. But no need to knock other preferences.

[DaveyYourFavey]

Now you finally make sense! Seriously if you had said all that calmly from the very beginning I would have totally got that. You're view is actually pretty damn awesome.

I mean seriously, if you had put that up here at first I would have given you MHO. I mean, you just deemed like some girl looking for someone to annoy. But now I actually think you seem like a pretty cool person. If you had had only been calm and not so... insulting and aggressive about it, I would have actually liked you fromthe start.

I've actually learned something from your final explanation. You really should just be calm with people and try to explain things in a gentler way. Otherwise you're just wasting your actually pretty badass views.

Wow, that changed quickly hahaha :)

[BuchitaBuchys]

Lol I'm a very angry person. I come across as very mean and bitchy.
I realize that people are less likely to listen to my views if I'm being a dick, but I do it anyway. I'm just a shitty person.

And thank you. I know that you aren't meaning to put some girls down. I understand that in the quest for female empowerment of the "average" body, that many people feel the need to shame the "idealized" body.
It happens, a lot.

And haha, thank you. I guess my badass views are wasted with my mega bitchy explanations.

@Bluemax, you're right. I need to tone the my asshole ways down. Haha.

[DaveyYourFavey]

Yea maybe you could work on that hahaha :D

[watashiwahanadesu]

I never really followed VS until I got into college. So I don't really know the VS models. I really only know Tyra and the other one who married Orlando Bloom. I consider them skinny but they have to be because well they're models and that type of body is best to flaunt clothes on a runway. I don't think the VS models are voluptuous but they are beautiful girls who have bodily features that a lot of girls want (long legs, flat stomach, thin arms and etc). I guess they are overrated when they are promoted as women who have curves but otherwise I think they do deserve the attention they receive.

[DaveyYourFavey]

Great answer. Yea I just scratch my head when people start saying they're curvy. I don't get it, how are they? But I see how they get so much attention, from girls at least.

[Your_boss960]

I think they are skinny but pretty. And I don't think they are overrated. I just think that they are payed well to parade down an isle infront of tons of people for millions of dollars with almost no clothes on.

But I think they are gorgeous. And I don't think they are overrated at all. They work hard for their bodies.

Every lady is pretty. Most just need to work on some things and spend a little time on themselves so that we can see their shine.

[MyThoLoGy]

Um some are amazing:
media.2oceansvibe.com/.../...lingerie-shoot-04.jpg

Name: Candice Swanepoel

[DaveyYourFavey]

Wow, photoshop is damn sexy. Seriously, if you can't tell that is then I have no words for you.

[SakuraChii]

No I look at them like any other models, maybe it's different where im from but people here don't obsess over victoria secret models, their just like any other models no one really shames them or praise them. I think some people over think things because their job is to present clothes not shame people of their body weight.

[Theguyoverthere]

I think they're attractive, but I also know that they're probably taking 10+ hours to "get ready" for these photoshoots.

The media photoshops the hell out of women anyway. So any guy with common sense knows that girls typically don't walk around looking like them all the time. We just have some delusional guys here and there who put no effort into their own bodies, yet think they should be dating a supermodel.

[lordAlex818]

I say yes. Not because they're skinny (although they are), but because a lot of VS models don't have very pretty faces. But some of them...
healthyceleb.com/.../...ngson-Victorias-Secret.jpg
(#^.^#)

[TheEnding]

Probably a bit overrated, yeah. The thing about them is that they look good, for sure, but they all look so similar. From what I've seen, they're all thin and tall and have long hair, and it's just soooo boring. So, attractive? Yeah, I guess. Diverse? No.

[Bandit74]

I think candice and alessandra are overrated, I like doutzen Kroes and barbara palvin.

For the most part I'd say models have great faces but I don't think their bodies are ideal (too tall/skinny) at least in my opinion. I think 5'7 with b cups and hourglass body shape is the ideal. -once again just my opinion

[Kris85]

I don't find them drop dead gorgeous but there are some that are quite pretty. Some are way too skinny in my opinion but there are some with nice curvy bodies. Underneath all that makeup they are just everyday people like the rest of us.

[BaileyJansen]

Underneath all that makeup, they are still prettier than 99% of us actually...www.realnebraskagirls.com/Portals/0/ICRyd_23.jpg

[Kris85]

@BaileyJansen nah they actually look pretty plain to me without all the makeup, just like the rest of us. Not ugly but not stunning

[BaileyJansen]

Everyone has their own opinions.. but I'd love to see you remove all your makeup and still look that gorgeous.

[Kris85]

Lol @BaileyJansen I'm not saying I do look gorgeous without makeup and I don't think they do either. Makeup is a wonderful thing for us women and most of us use to it's full potential

[BaileyJansen]

I usually don't wear makeup actually. So, most of us don't use it to it's full potential.
But these women are extremely gorgeous for not wearing an ounce of makeup on their faces...

[BaileyJansen]

Fact is, they have a natural beauty that most women don't have

[Kris85]

@BaileyJansen to each their own

[AverlinAngelRose]

Some of them are too skinny, a lot of models are too skinny. You can literally see every bone in a lot of models, do curve or anything. But, other models are look amazing AND healthy.

[Kalinda]

Any vs idelsbive seen looked pretty voluptuous so. I don't see how they'd sell underwear with no curves.

Anyhow I haven't seen them recently but bras and underwear curve around curves so a truly skinny model it's hard to see how that's work.

[DaveyYourFavey]

Just type victoria's secret models into google images.
You might mistake the first pic for a group of skeletons.

[BaileyJansen]

they aren't too skinny. I'm 5'8 and 128 pounds because that's how I was born..
Only 1 out of 100,000 women have the face and body to become a VS model, so that means they are THE most beautiful women on earth.

Over-rated? yes. Too skinny? no.

[been_waiting]

5'8" 128 pounds is skinny but not VS skinny- I'd say most are probably 5'9" and 110-115 pounds.

Rare doesn't equal beautiful by the way

[BaileyJansen]

If you are honestly telling me they're ugly.. sorry girl but ur blind XD

[been_waiting]

When did I say they were ugly? 😂
all I said was that rare doesn't equal beautiful. Some of them are really pretty. Some not.

[Edgeralanapoe]

Girls idolize them because they are what a mass majority of society find to be "sexy". It's what women are constantly told they have to look like if they want guys to want them. Is it right and do I agree? No. But that's how it is.

[PiuBelloAmante]

i dont like them all, but a few just are breathtaking
i think they are all over hyped, but overrated I don't know man beauty is in the eye of the beholder

[marksmith108]

Overrated. Real women have some cushion for the pushin.

[BaileyJansen]

"Real women".
What the fuck does that even mean? ALL women are real

[marksmith108]

normal women you see everyday. models practically starve themselves and survive on extreme low-calorie unhealthy diets just to set a certain "beauty" standard. i prefer women who don't look like they're gonna break when i touch them.

[mr90skid]

@BaileyJansen
He means everyday women

[BaileyJansen]

They don't look like they're going to "break".
My mother was 5'11 and 130 pounds when she was younger (and she was a model, yes). I know a thing or two about the modeling industry you probably don't.
1.) They eat very healthy. 2.) they have personal trainers so they stay thin 3.) they drink a lot of protein shakes. 4.) The paparazzi are always getting pictures of VS models at Mcdonalds at 3am, at Denny's eating a burger.

Cara Delevingne was stalked to 5 guys burgers and fries by the pap at 2:30 AM, where she was eating 2 cheese burgers.
14weeksofsummer.files.wordpress.com/.../vs-models.jpg

There's nothing unhealthy about this image..

[marksmith108]

alright well, i'll trust that you know more than I do, no argument there. personally, i prefer girls with some weight to them. i'm just not a fan of the super skinny look.

[been_waiting]

Real women simply identify as women and that is it

[marksmith108]

u all need to chill out about the word "real". all i meant was preference. a lot of girls aren't that skinny and most of us like it that way. besides, what you see is all edited and photo-shopped.

[DaveyYourFavey]

This guy is correct. Most men prefer a bit of weight.

Most vs models are unhealthier looking than the ones in your picture @BaileyJanson plus those ones have a bit too much muscle on their tummies. Very nice, men do love that manly look :) not

The only time most men find vs models attractive is when they're photoshopped and given a more curvy less skinny look, like the one of Candice above. Most do look like they'll break if you touch them.

Women have a very different perception of attractive and they can't except that men don't like they same things that the media idolizes and tries to shove down your throats. They're as bad as the 'bras' who think all women love meathead bodybuilders. Women are being tricked.

[MoonTengu]

Most of them are definitely overrated. Only horny or average guys with a narrow perspective would say that they are so good. Ask someone with a developed or better sense of looks and fashion and they would tell you that they look pretty good, but not that good.

[guy532]

No, I think they're sexy as hell! Candice Swanepoel is my dream girl 😍

[MyThoLoGy]

I know right, a godess of beauty.

[guy532]

Yep, most beautiful woman that has ever existed in my opinion

[jakeofalltrades]

I think all models are over rated, skinny stuck up bitches. I like my women with a little junk in the trunk

[aamy811]

I love them they're pretty and thin, two things I want to be.

[NerdInDenial]

I do not think they are overrated. They are physically beautiful, and I can't stop looking. It's similar in getting lost in a painting.

[TheReturnOfRae]

Candice Swanepoel is skinny but she'll always be my favorite. I also like Tyra Banks, Adriana Lima, and Miranda Kerr

[XEmmaSigsX]

Sometimes yes but candice swanepoel is one attractive woman