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I was shocked,but do guys actually see it that way?
It's a stereotype---obviously not all pretty girls are high mainteance and worthless in bed. But I think, as with most stereotypes, there's at least some grain of truth in it, or it's true of at least a proportion of people who fall into that group.
Pretty girls are used to getting attention. If you have a lot of guys who are interested in you, you need a way to sort of weed through them in order to choose the "best" ones, so you raise your standards very high. Some pretty girls also let the attention go to their head and decide they "deserve" all the attention. In the end, they expect guys to go out of their way to attract them, dote over them, spend lots of money on them, treat them like a princess, or otherwise go out of their way to please them. If a guy doesn't do these things, she either won't notice him, or will move on to a guy who will. Pretty girls might also be more likely to "play games", because they want to know that a guy is willing to work to attract her and keep her attention, and they're able to do so because if one guy isn't willing, there's still plenty of others who are (whereas with other girls, it might be enough to just know a guy is interested in her, without expecting him to prove HOW interested he is. If you don't have may guys attracted to you, you don't want to risk playing a game that might make him lose interest). Because some men are willing to live up to these, often unrealistic, standards, they add to the problem by reinforcing that its okay to have these expectations of people.
As far as sex is concerned---again, if you're used to all the attention, you might just expect guys to want to sleep with you (and they will!), but there's less motive to put a lot of effort into involving yourself, learning how to please someone else really well, etc. because whether or not you put in that effort, men will still want you. This is similar to the stereotype some people believe that fat girls are better in bed---because they're willing to put more effort into pleasing their partners and indulging their partner's fantasies because they need to make up for what they feel they're lacking in the looks department (which might be true of some, but certainly not all----just as the case is with pretty girls).
I think this is similar to why attractive men are often seen as jerks. They're able to act like jerks because girls will put up with it more than if he wasn't attractive. If a guy is used to girls lining up to be with him, he doesn't have to put much effort into attracting one and doesn't have to care as much about impressing one girl in particular.
Of course, there is the flipside to all of this. Guys might push this negative stereotype about pretty girls because pretty girls aren't interested in them. If a pretty girl turns a guy down, it's much easier to just chalk it up to her being stuck-up or high maintenance than to consider that maybe there's just something about him in particular that she doesn't like.
Though, the fact that you said "I didn't mean that I could never find a guy, it was just a line. I've been alone for a few weeks and didn't ran across the right guy yet." in one of your comments suggests that you are high maintenance. A few weeks is NOTHING. If someone is bothered by the fact that no one has hit on them in a few weeks, it shows that they're full of themselves and EXPECT that guys should be flocking to them. Further, it sounds like guys have been interested, just not any guys who
Meet your standards.
How does that suggest I'm high maintenance, it was really just a line I know that 6 weeks are not a long time.Did you never say something like 'uuuugh I really wish I had a bf' ? And you're right I did get hit on a few times and went on some dates too, but nothing was the right fit so far. and well I do have standarts not unreasonably high but I have them. but that's not a bad thing, or do you go home with every guy who hits on you?
It's just that 6 weeks is not a very long time by most people's standards to go without a boyfriend (as you've agreed). But if you're being hit on and going on dates, you're still well ahead in the game than probably most people. Having standards for who you want as a boyfriend is important, but to expect that you'll meet someone that you want to have a relationship with in only a few weeks of being single is unrealistic (high expectations) and doesn't warrant "complaining".
I hear you on the "attractive guys = jerks" part. I know a LOT of girls who put up with horrible, worthless guys (drug addicts, lazy no-job types, dumbsh*ts, abusive whatever) because the guy is good looking and they figure they can't do better in the boyfriend looks department. Oftentimes the guy has some sort of control over them too. Pretty sad when you think about it but what am I going to do, I can't save everyone from themselves.
i think insecure guys who don't attract very many pretty girls think this way. like they wish they had the pretty girls but they don't so they say sh*t like that to make themselves feel better..but what is their definition of pretty? do they mean girls that are like model status, or girls that are nice to look at? does that mean they think every girl who isn't model status 9/10 isn't attractive or what? idk...i just think if any guy is gonna negatively judge you for being pretty is an asshole right off the bat. because basically he's saying they will go for a girl just for her body and stuff but she's not good in bed and worthless when not all pretty girls are like that. maybe girls wouldn't have to be like that if guys stopped worshipping them just because they won't the genetic lottery? I really think that stereotype only applies to the pretty stuck up snobby girls, but you can be pretty and cool at the same time
I agree with most of what you say & think there's a lot of truth to it.
As far as "negatively judge" it's based off experience. A know a lot of girls like that are confused about who they are and put up a front which angers and turns guys off. One was complaining to me about how a hot guy went with a not-hot girl instead of her, and how her ugly (they aren't ugly) friends get guys and she doesn't. But when we go places she judges guys SOLELY off looks. It's no wonder she's single.
What a load of bullsh*t. These guys are just making an excuse why they can't bother their ass, act like a real man and go for it. If they just don't try to get to know you, but judge you by your appearance, and decide that you're high maintainance, [without knowing you] they are NOT worth your time. They just want to reassure their little egos by getting a girlfriend who is not even that attractive to them, just so that these girls who are not so pretty will always try to please them, because they have no self-confidence. Guys want a girl whom they think won't leave them, and doesn't have a million other cocks lined up on a string for them.
TOTALLY AGREE.just because we put effort into our appearance doesn't make us stuck up!we just like to dress up.guys just need an excuse cause theyre too intimidated or scared?..
High maintenance yes (I don't think this way per se, but lots of guys do), bad in bed no. Girls I meet who are really good looking usually have high expectations out of guys because they can get a rich, good looking guy and/or are so used to attention from guys that they don't care about it. I can count on one hand the number of girls I have met who were genuinely hot and nice, polite people at the same time (the one I'm with is in this category). I walked up to a well, dressed, good looking girl at the supermarket the other day and she bitched at me and turned away before I could even open my mouth and ask if she knew where they hid the Parmesean (spelling?) cheese. Turns out it was near the cream cheese butter stuff and not near the other cheeses.
Also I find it impossible to believe that if you're pretty you can't get a guy - you can, you are either being super unfriendly or have impossible standards for what you want out of a guy (not just looks but what you want or expect him to say and do to earn your affection). That or maybe you just have tunnel vision on one guy and don't pay attention to other ones?
I didn't mean that I could never find a guy, it was just a line. I've been alone for a few weeks and didn't ran across the right guy yet.
A few weeks is nothing, you'll find somebody. As far as what your friend said he's being truthful and a lot of guys think that way (I know I do because 9 times out of ten it's the way things are) - you just need to get around people who have common interests and not club scene types who go after girls and guys based on some imaginary number scale.
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"been alone for a few weeks and didn't ran across the right guy yet. "
Thank you for confirming what the guys here answered.
Indeed, when you consider yourself a beautyful hot girl that must be a horrible experience.
Hey guys it was really just line,I know that 6 weeks are nothing, I didn't even expect to get an answer and even though he's a good friend and I appriciate his input, I couldn't help but to be surprised by the answer I got. bout the make up thing I used to wear some make up, but since I'm at a college where nobody does, I usually don't wear any either.I never called myself beautiful or hot and I consider myself pretty average
Every now and then you hear a line from someone that causes you to have a surprising revelation into how that person (or people in general) think. I know I've heard a few - some fact, some not. Guys and girls who go for looks/status while having no idea what that person is actually like often end up disappointed - they get the hot guy or girl only to find out that person is a narcissistic jerkoff and "not worth the effort." Hence the birth of that "pretty girls aren't worth it" stereotype.
I agree with the guy who said that pretty girls often aren't worth the effort.
as a rule of thumb, I find that _made-up_ girls are high maintenance. there's a difference between natural god-given appearance and being made up -- a girl can be naturally very pretty but not made-up, or naturally plan and extremely made-up.
made-up girls tend to be insecure, fussy, self-absorbed, impossible to please, emotionally abusive, and whores for attention. in fact, an interesting study recently discovered that it's possible to identify narcissists with a fair degree of accuracy simply by their appearance -- > link <
remember that I'm speaking generally. there are exceptions, and I try to judge people as individuals. but I've also learned the hard way that a pleasant 7 is usually a better girlfriend than a difficult 10.
I live in the land of girls who are made of makeup, I see it every day. It's really sad because a LOT of the girls I meet are really nice and desirable, they just have standards they have set for themselves, attitudes they have forced upon themselves that practically guarantee they will never be happy in both romance and life in general.
Ok, but can you tell if a girl is 'made up' only based on her looks? Because he said sth like 'Many guys won't hit on you because they're automaticly assume you're either out of their league or, like I said, not worth the effort'
By "made up" I meant specifically looks. I meant girls who use their appearance to attract attention. heavy makeup, sexy clothes, outrageous/unusual hair, visible tattoos and piercings, and so on. in my experience, girls that are often a hassle -- they're frequently difficult, unpleasant people.
again, I'm speaking generally. I try to judge people as individuals. but I've learned from experience that made-up girls are often a pain in the neck.
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I would more-or-less agree witht eh fact that pretty girls are high maintenance.
I read a guy's blog about something - he states that if a good-looking guy is trying to game a beautiful girl, but he has friends (aka wingmen) along who aren't as attractive as he is, then his chances of scoring are reduced.
I might be off-topic with this statement here, but pretty girls carry higher standards with them. I wouldn't say it's their fault either, since everyone else has kissed their asses and inflated their egos to trip like crazy.
I can easily tell when a girl is high maintenanced. If she asks me to 'buy her a drink', that's a red flag already. Or if I tease her a bit, and she acts totally cold, then she takes things too seriously. Even if I say 'You look very beautiful' to her face, and she starts teasing me by using her looks to bait me into liking her, I won't budge.
Basically, taking your looks and using them to your advantage is a big turn off. There's no good reason to do so, because there's other women out there who will be worth talking to and befriending. Beauty is common.
This guy has just confirmed everything I have ever tried to explain to most of my male friends who ask me (because I am a good friend and they need a female point of view) why it is that the model-type women treat them like crap. Thank you, thank you, thank you for being one of the men who gets it!
Kinda... generally girls your age range who are naturally pretty, but especially if they put in extra effort (makeup, nice clothes, etc) to look good, well... girls like that are very self-absorbed. They usually feel like they're the hottest chick ever and a guy is incredibly lucky to get into their panties or even just get to talk to them.
So it's high maintenance in the sense that if you're going to be with a girl like that, you have to work to make the world revolve around them because that's what they expect.
I think that your guy friend was over reacting, and that his comment tore up a bit of your self esteem; thus, disregard his comment and just be happy with yourself. Underlining all of this is your desire to be desirable to a member of the other sex. There's no point in worrying about your routine in the morning if you like how you look. It's not worth changing yourself for some guy because in the end he wouldn't be liking the real you.
That sounds terribly cheesy, but I believe it to hold true.
If your face is plastered with orange foundation, then yeah - high maintenance. Natural beauty is not. My ex was the most beautiful girl I've ever seen - but it had its downsides which were, because she was so pretty and had a great body, every bloody guy either hit on her or joined a queue to be with her.
Don't ask me about her now, she broke up with me a fortnight ago and I haven't seen her since, but I suspect she's already with one of the many guys who showed interest - and this is why I'm probably not going to bother again.
I once had a real beauty as girlfriend. Beautiful, really, but her beauty was only skindeep of course.
The day I got enough of her breakup was easy: no drama, no feelings of guilt for dumping the poor girl. I just neglect her a tiny bit and a few days later she was in 'good hands' (6)
I too was soon better off.
Guys (at least the perceptive ones) know that it's an uphill battle with "pretty girls". These pretty girls are used to attention and to being hit on, so just another guy doing that doesn't even cause them to think. They also tend to be more experienced, so they are used to being doted on and stuff, and therefore they become harder to please than other girls. In a way that leads pretty girls to being high maintenance.
He's just intimidated by you. He's sort of trying to help but kind of in a backhanded way. Guys can often tell if a girl is high maintenance more by her personality and how she treats other people than her looks. But if a girl wears a lot of makeup or dresses super trendy, then yeah, that can come off as high maintenance. If you're just naturally pretty and dress casual, then it's just guys being too shy to ask you out because you're pretty.
If you're just naturally pretty and dress casual, then it's just guys being too shy to ask you out because you're pretty.A casually dressed naturally pretty girl will not be ignored by guys because they're shy. If they're shy they will interact friendly with her without asking to date, leaving that possibility open.
A girl with clothes worth a months' salary on her body and full make up will be ignored by most intelligent guys, shy or not.
I think they refer to girls who are constantly touching up their make-up and might fix their hair during the act or don't like certain positions because its not their best angle. Pretty is no problem I guess, extreme vanity is.
Spending (much)money on appearance is the problem. It makes those girls come over as superficial. If they're walking around in Penney or Walmart jeans and t-shirts instead of designer clothes I don't get that impression of high maintenance. Let them go with the Porsche/Corvette guys: they belong together.
not everybody sees it like that, but some do..."pretty girls" aren't always high maintenance and as long as they have a good personality to go along with their looks I don't see why it wouldn't be worth the effort
"pretty girls aren't always high maintenance" but expensively dressed girls sure are!
Yes and No. Being high maintenance isn't a big deal to me but I hear where he is coming from. It could be that they are intimidate by you or just assume you have a boyfriend.
"Don't get me wrong they're nice to look at, but a lot of times not worth the effort "
Well said!
I heard that before. Guys say we just lay there and don't put any effort in.
We're high maintenance because we put in more of an effort to look good. Not all wake up with clear skin
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