I am not talking about all men, but it piss me off to see some of them claiming how women’s standards are unachievable, while in real life, we rarely see a good looking guy dating an average looking woman, and the average looking guys who complain about women standards, are actually talking about the gorgeous women who are a way out of their league. Cause let’s be honest but the only kind of guys who usually flirt with average looking women are usually below average. Why aren’t these ugly guys trying to flirt with ugly girls, instead of trying to make a pretty girl feeling bad for not falling for them?
Why do men complain about women having standards?
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Right so when women have 5 kids and then say that they are now ready to settle down but the guy shouldn't worry because he she doesn't need a father for her children and then starts laying into men saying that if they dont want to take on a woman with 5 kids and have all the draw backs of children but have zero say in whats going on that he isn't a real man, that is an example of your automatic assumption that this is a man only problem and women unsurprisingly get a free pass, right?
I would bet large amounts of money that i could find more examples of what I am talking about than you can find examples of what you are talking about.
So here is whats really going on.
You are are a brain dead feminazi who wants to make gender neutal issues gender specific and then rage about something that really isn't a problem for the vast majority of people in the real world.
It is also likely that you are talking about is based on your personal experience of a couple of guys you didn't fancy asking you out.
So Im going to go ahead and call bullshit on this whole thread.
Well first of all, there is no such thing as a league or being average looking. Someone either finds you attractive or they don't, and what people find attractive changes over time and is influenced heavily by what others think.
To answer your question though, it's because people are stupid.
People are selfish and constantly hold double standards at their own convenience. We all want to date someone we find attractive. This is especially true in youth, I believe, but men worry mostly about appearance and little else, at first anyway. When they discover the woman has a mind of her own and has expectations, which are often reasonable, they get mad and leave. Women want someone attractive as well, but they have much higher expectations, sometimes ridiculous ones, and when the men fall short, it's somehow the man's fault. It goes both ways. This is where love comes in. You find middle ground because you are special to each other.
I remember in college we studied attraction in humans.
What the results were: men always went for more attractive women than themselves and women went for someone at the same attraction level to them.
I think the reason why men do this is either:
Men think they look or feel better than they are. Men might be trained due to media that looking bad is not a big thing, I always see ugly dudes on TV with a really pretty woman.
Personally I would only date someone whom I found attractive and not settle. I would also not date a guy who settled for me. I do believe beauty is eye in the beholder but in this argument I uses beauty in terms of health and youth and fertility. :-)
I was about to comment that not all men are like that... then I saw your description.
I wholeheartedly agree. I do not know what goes on in some of their minds when plenty of women say that they want an attractive nice man with a good personality. I've been told that I'm too picky for wanting this. So I shouldn't go after a guy who I want to have sex with and will be happy with in a relationship? It seems like the insecure ones usually negate me. (Not to mention that I'm sure guys want the same).
Firstly.. Not ALL MEN complain about this at all. Not ALL WOMEN have unrealistic expectations either.
It is a fact that MANY WOMEN, even average ones, have unrealistic expectations. Honestly, it doesn't bother me at all. I wouldn't want such a woman. And it doesn't affect me? She is the one who will either be incel, single or turn into a crazy cat woman 🤷♂️ I don't see how that affects me in the slightest...
You know who I think takes issue to the unrealistic standards of women the most? Ahem.. single women.. that's who. Keep comparing each man to the last and paint him with the faults of the previous... Keep expecting perfection when you yourself aren't..
I'm not saying you do.. but many women do. I care not.
Well no that is not true at all ~ but even if it were. It doesn’t tell you anything negative about a person bc they have cats. Caring for animals is movie not pathetic.
The only standards guys complain about are the unrealistic ones like when women only want a guy who is 6'2" which is six inches above average height, but also want a guy who has a high paying career but also travels the world (contradictory, if your highly paid, your not traveling around and spending time with your wife/girlfriend, your working, if you have time to spend with your girlfriend and time to travel, your not working its very simple these are contradictory. Either one is fine but demanding it be in the same guy, who also is above average in height as well as above average in looks who is confident and knows how to get women to sleep with him but also only wants one woman blah blah blah blah. That's like a guy saying he wants a woman with breasts that are H cups, who is on a scale of 1 to 10 an 11, who is a complete slut except also a virgin, who is feminine but a complete nerd as well blah blah blah blah. No one cares that you have standards, people get annoyed when women have absurd standards (and make no mistake, they do as every study shows) because clearly your not going to find that guy and you belittle (as you have done) any one who doesn't meet these insane requirements but then when you can't find the perfect man because he obviously (to every one but the woman in question) doesn't exist you turn around and bitch how their are no good men left in this world and men are assholes and blah blah blah blah. That's what pisses people off about it, the absuard standards combined with the bitching and whining and blaming every one else for why your alone.
There's a mismatch in the brains of men and women today that isn't really anyone's specific fault but I honestly do think that in this case, men have the disadvantage. Men are usually programmed biologically to be attracted to women easily. You get women asking why guys fall for them when they're just being nice according to the norms of society. You never get guys asking why women keep falling for them that way (and if you did, we would all assume he's a liar - even other men would make this assumption). What do people need in a relationship? Things that they feel would bring them the things they want in life - stability, security, family, etc. You can be a woman with a nice attitude, a few skills and the ability to start a family and guys will be all over you left and right. You can be a man and have a good attitude, skills, be family oriented, etc. First, to be clear, such a guy would be able to find a woman. But he's going to run into more situations where "You're so nice and you will find a girlfriend soon but I'm sorry there is just no spark" than ANY woman is EVER going to hear.
here's a little truth... Women highest value is that of a reproduction partner. Men want to leave legacy ( A Son) Mens value is that of protector / provider. Now we can argue modern culture but thats the realty of mankind for most of its existances and it shaped us to the core. so Why do men go after hotter chicks, because men aren't judged on hotness. Why do men complain about women standards? Because theyre a newer develpment that is opposed to their professed positions and exposes their hypocracy. Love me if Im fat, hairy, pimpled face, wear no make up, wear sweat pants all day but you better be over 6 ft and well built. Have enough money to pay for most dates. And unless you own your own home and drive a decent car please do not pass go. Sure there are the hot yoga instructor guy but we know what you dont... your just likely a blip on his radar because there's a ton of hot young dumb little things that want a go at the " unicorn Male" LOL hell get tired and move on and eventually these promiscous women hit the wall in their 30's and go on wholesale
Women need to actually be raising their standards even higher. They are putting up with way too much bullshit behavior from guys. Men will respect you more when you put your foot down and enforce solid boundaries and raise him to a high esteem.
I think it from dating sites they get that info, like in any market things with a to high price remain unsold, so they stay around will women with reasonable demand get picked up and leaves the market. Which kind of give a bad overview. In real life I haven't found this to be true, sure there is a bunch of entitled women out there who will remain single because they set the wrong price on a relationship. And that is fine if your happy single but if you want a family you need to revaluate your situation. Your not shown your worth before you actually gone on those first dates. So being picky early is the same as trying sell a mystery box. And we all know what crap those usually contain.
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Anonymous
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Lmao! lots of women got crazy ass standards bih. Looks (in which many are very picky) height, muscles, hairless, beards, stylish) not too aloof or clingy cool but goofy sensitive, but manly carefree but also determined confident, but not too douchy financially strong, but not consumed by work organized, but not ocd sociable, but not too much. attentive with good stroke game strong but gentle.
Even moderately good looking gentlemen get swatted down by average lookin chicks for something else on that list.
comparatively womens' requirements to get a man not fat/ugly not a bitch bonus points for anything else
Ok no guys wants an ugly women, we don’t want the 140-300 pound girl there are cool to hang out with but we as guys would never go out with them, unless there 300-400 pounds them selves in which case there just happy they got laid.
I don’t ever expect to get a 9 or a 10 does make me stop wanting a 9-10 slim body Tight waist of course any guy wants that so why should we flirt maybe she like use maybe she doesn’t fuck it we can at least try.
And trust me most good looking women don’t like anime politics or history and they don’t no shit about sports men have standards too.
@doyouwannadoit I’ve tried that no way in hell I know when I see a pretty girl and a ugly 35 meth out birth her daughter is to but at least I know she ain’t got stds
Every other day there is at least one chick on GAG why there aren't any guys approaching her. Of course in the first phrase you see that she is actually is approached but not by the guys she thinks she deserves because she is supposedly able to judge their character within one minute of seeing them. I don't know, if they are approached by only those guys maybe, just maybe it's because it's the only ones they deserve no matter how much the media tells them they deserve some totally devoted six packed CEO with some sexy accent looking for commitment. Sorry babe but what you think are the "gorgeous women" are sixes and sevens with personalities that are not even close to that.
So, there is a lot of subjectivity here. Women are often stereotyped to have high standards, but based on the animal kingdom, you have the "right" to be picky. You have to bear fruit whilst a male plants seeds. Now for the whole average man women, whatever thing... Everyone's view or perspective of average is going to change based on how they see things, where they live and simply what they like/dislike. You might think he's ugly, and she is average or above. He probably thinks he's average and that she is average or even ugly. Also, looks aren't honestly enough to go about when determining standards. You make a point, but just with a tunneled perspective of life.
I find it off-putting when people impose standards on others that they themselves don't live up to. It's like if an ugly guy/girl demands that potential suitors have supermodel good looks. Or when broke bitches expect a man to make a 7 figure income or else he's a "loser".
But generally speaking, I see no issue with healthy, realistic standards. "I won't let a man disrespect me or treat me badly" is a good, reasonable standard. "I will only date men who do everything I command" is an unhealthy standard, and I would want nothing to do with such a woman.
The only time a guy complains about a woman’s standards being unattainable is when he is too lazy to try and lacks confidence. That’s why standards exist. And what guy in their right mind would date a girl without standards... a guy that just wants to have sex with no commitment.
the type of guys who complain are usually the ones with conflated values. they expect the world while giving nothing. so you're right when it pisses you off. ah I guess the ugly guys don't see themselves as ugly, I dont think guys should complain about standards, and I think any respectable man would have his own anyway.
Men complain about women's standards because women complain about men's standards. Guys are shamed for having any sort of standard and are told they're objectifying women if they have a standard for attractiveness. Men aren't actually pissed that the standard is too high but because there is a DOUBLE standard and they aren't allowed to have one.
Mens standards: Be pretty, stay in shape, STFU every now and then, make good sandwiches, don't be a slwore.
Womens standards: Six sixes. 1 Must be at least six feet tall 2 Must have a 6 pack 3 Must make at least 6 figures ($100,000 per year or more) 4 Must have at least 6 years of college (Possessing a Master's degree or higher) 5 At least 6 inches of dick 6 At least six months since his last relationship
Now you mull through those and try to suss out the differences in desires.
@bamesjond0069 Basically... Women in their prime can name their price these days. On the bright side you're approaching your prime... the 22 year olds that ignored 22 year old you are now interested in 32 year old you. And those now 32 year old women are writing articles for Bolde asking where'd all the good men go? https://www.bolde.com/author/amy-horton/ "Single AF" lol!
Saftey standards are fine, they are there to protect them and that's completely okay.
What guys are annoyed about is preferences that people won't compromise on.
You could fill 75% of what they want but if you don't fit exactly they won't even give you a chance. That's also completely ignoring the fact that the guy also has preferences and saftey standards himself.
Height, you can't change your height, so many women have this standard that men are starting to feel their value as a man is directly tied to their height.
Income, yes wanting a partner with stable financial life is normal. But you should love the man not the money. Money can be gotten elsewhere.
I don’t really care if a girl has standards. What irritates me is when a girl verbally tells me what “she thinks” I should look like or compare me to someone she finds more attractive. Nobody cares about you having standards. We just don’t want you belittling us. It’s the same thing with girls complaining about guys who care about weight
Same reason why women complain about men having standards that they have to start their fat acceptance movement because of how shallow guys are for preferring skinny women, making feminism propaganda because of how "oppressed" they are and shame skinny women for having "privilege" because it's "impossible" to be fit when being fit is really the only thing they have to do to be considered attractive. They don't even have to look like super models but just look like they're taking good care of themselves not someone who have to be rich, tall (Which is genetic), muscular, have a full head of hair, willing to risk his life to protect the family and etc.
Ya I dont know how I feel as Bout the question overall. It seems very over generalized. I dont think there are and hard rules with attraction and by the time we are adults we are pretty hard wired to weed hat we like. Beauty is a lot about perspective each person will have as different opinion. So you can't really say who should flirt with who. And I dont hear guys talking about girls standards are too high etc. This seems to be ac very specific situation your describing.
Because how dare we have standards of our own? We should all just be here for them to pick & choose. They're entitled to all of us. We don't get a say in who we're actually attracted to!! Silly girl. 😒
A lot of people do it. Women do it a lot too. If a man posts a bunch of standards there will always be a lot of negative female comments. People in general just seem to react negatively, especially if people have standards which they feel they can't fit because they take it personally and it makes them feel unattractive.
Do you suggest all people should just line-up and be officially labelled as "Ugly", "Average" or "Hot" looking? That way they can stick to people in their own category.
People act based on feeling attracted to a person, I don't think it's fair to tell them not too because you think they are ugly.
I think people should be just taught how to look for signs of attraction, that way if you don't see the signs, don't approach.
The "standards" are usually kinda weird things. I think that's why guys get frustrated about it. Like it would be one thing if an absolute babe was with a model of a man with a good career, intelligence, lifestyle. In reality, many times we see girls rejecting guys and then dating some just disappointing dudes. Like you would be mad too if you got turned down and then saw your crush dating some chubby pothead who makes way less money than you.
Some guys are too proud to accept a woman's standards. Same as women with men. It's just one of those things that are out of our control. Also, guys (not handsome) w/ money get girls who like to spend it AKA Sugar daddy. Some women like guys for their sense of humor. If both m/f knew what it was there would be a lot less singles...
Some guys don’t seem to know, that they don’t have to meet those standards. And most women only talk about standards then they date guys who fall far below them.
Men should have standards for example my standards are no high maintenced girl period if she wants to be high all the more power for her 10 to 1 says her coochie still smells like some garbage disposal. Competition against other girls no completions are induced I am not jealous never have been I can leave my wife in a room with a bunch of horny guys leave and there either all gonna be cleaning or eating ssndwhichs loyalness comes with patience and trust that s from being married for 10 years I talk a girl it's automatically cheating regardless of the? And I hate that but it's a standard
It's because men don't have any standards. They will go for anything with pussy. So they don't understand why women can't do the same, they can't comprehand, it annoys them. So obviously since they can't explain it they call it unrealistic, just because THEY don't experience attraction the same way women do.
Well you're correct with "It's because men don't have any standards. They will go for anything with pussy" for about half of all males... the rest is nonsense. Sorry.
I'm sorry are you a male? Are you an expert on male behavior? Because if you're not then you have no idea what you're talking about and just made a super broad accusation to literally every male on Earth
I don't know about other but personality is much more important than looks, I don't care if you're a 20 out of 10, if you're an asshole (like you've proven) I want nothing to do with you
both sexes have hypergamous tendencies. A guy who aims too high complains about too high preferences of girls in same level like girls who aim too high about partner criteria of some boys. Maybe this effect of false self-estimation shifts into the wrong direction because of affirmation given by social media?
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Anonymous
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I don't hate woman having standards, I hate when they do alpha fucks beta bucks.
That is when a girl is 18 and at the peak of her physical beauty she'll say things like "he has to be 6'2, have a full head of hair, a chiseled jaw etc". Then when later on, after having had sex with multiple guys, her value has declined and she's looking for a simp to wife her up, suddenly it becomes okay that he's below 6 foot tall and bald.
So if you have standards, be consistent with them at all times, no guy wants to be a beta, loser, backup provider.
Because main stream media/tv/movies. Makes people think that way.
Where you see people on the news who are attractive. They typically have a spouse who is equal or better. Hardly ever do you see a hot woman in the media/tv/movies with some guy beneath her in looks or income.
So psychologically it makes the rest of us start thinking in a similar manner.
A mans standards are easy, personality and looks are it. Women expect so much more of men and often in things we can't change like how "manly" we r. Not saying that high standards dont work both ways i just find that women are far more demanding before i even make the mabye list. Ugly guys will still go for hot girls becuz we wanna feel like we r not ugly so stop complaining and take the compliment when a guy hits on u
ROFLMAO! Well, when it comes to standards, you're apparently obsessed with appearance. Because that's all you talk about in this question. That's actually very shallow, don't you think?
From where I sit, as an old man who is married, and therefore out of the fray, I see women and men doing exactly the same thing to each other. And you have just so aptly demonstrated it with this question.
"we rarely see a good looking guy dating an average looking woman," a girl living in her fantasy world. A man today fucks whoever he can, even the ugliest and that includes the top 5% of men. It is not rare. It is the norm. Society and social media has elevated your vagina to such astronomical heights that your standards have become the most unrealistic in history of mankind.
I'm sorry friend but please dont talk about ladies like that. It sounds disrespectful and gross.. besides, every man and woman has something about them that makes them attractive to someone, everyone is beautiful in their own way. Please just dont talk like this.. women are not just their body parts, just like men aren't.. thank you.
@Bensbrie I will talk however I like. Get it? See what you're doing here you're already calling the shots and get bossy with me. I can only imagine how you behave to your partner if you have any with that attitude. That's how women are today. And yes you are just body parts. All you have to offer is a vagina and nothing else. Meanwhile you have all the thousands of irrational expectations from men and change partners as if they're socks. Now get blocked and gtfo.
The reason men complain is because; although, for the hot guy, she's not girlfriend or wife material, guys date down for sex and almost all young women choose the hottest guys that will fuck them and reject guys within their league that want them for girlfriends and wives. Therefore, since girls reject guys that would marry them to chase after the unobtainable, girls have unrealistic standards.
Lol lets be honest here, guys complain about female standards because you girls always shoot up above your league and make up allows you to do that. On an even playing feild lets be honest most girls are ugly hahaha take off the make up there its like only 20% of you girls that are really 7s and above. To tell you the truth the ugly guy probably was shooting in his league but you may have been to stubborn to know that.
All women have unachievable standards. They all want a good-looking guy, over 6ft tall, with a muscular build, who earn a million dollars a year, etc etc etc.
100% of women will not be happy with any guy who isn't in the top 1%. She will eventually settle for a lesser guy, but she won't be happy and she will cheat on him the first opportunity she gets.
Clearly you offer nothing, worthless dog. No woman wants you because of your repulsiveness. I would offer the same, but even a woman with nothing wouldn't want trash like you. Did you get it? :)
So you're incompetent and lack basic reading comprehension? Not a surprise... lol. I'm a middle class corporate worker. I don't need nor want a guy that's in the top one hundred percent and I don't cheat. I do not want losers like you though who are unfortunately part of the group where a lot of good men exist.
Your existence won't be missed by anyone. Your an example of why abortion is beneficial for some women. Have the last say, waste of a life. :)
When people complain about the standards of others it is because those people fail to meet those standards. People like what they like. If she's obese or hairy or stinky I won't date her. For her I might be too tall or too short or maybe she hates black hair or green eyes or only dates guys who drive exotic cars or whatever. Es la vida.
Because a lot of men can't accept the fact that women are more equal to men now, and women should've been equal with men since the beginning, nobody's better than another human being no matter the gender.
They are lazy and selfish. Anybody can measure up to high standards - whether intellectual or moral. I've met mentally retarded people I would have considered dating cause I liked the way they treated people and I've rejected ivy league PhD students.
No need to call out every male. Who really cares if they are ivy league a-holes or High School dropouts? by the way, it's mentally or physically challenged...
Because their mode of standards are crappy. Having to be 6 foot and rich and opens the car door and pay on dates and clean shaven or bearded. Well that eliminates over 99% of men. They have unreasonable standards. Only 18% of American men are at-least 6 feet anyways. So that stat alone eliminates 82% of men. Add all the other hocus phantom standards that doesn't mean a hill of beans and you're left with like half a percent of all men.
If you think those are most women's standards, you are sadly mistaken. Lots of women dong require for a man to be tall and rich. But being a gentleman shouldn't have to be asked for, it is necessary. If a man isn't respectful and is vulgar why would a woman want a man who will mistreat her and just wants adult things..
Some women would feel insecure dating a man shorter than them because of cultural standards sometimes or because if she is really tall she would have to physically look down at him. That's not always the case. But for tall women they may feel insecure because they are so tall. Just a suggestion.
Women have the power to not let that make them insecure. They shouldn't care how others view them. I'm 5'4" and women told me that women have probably turned me down for being far under average height for a man even if they don't say that's the reason. Any truth in that?
You say that but are you a woman who is 6 ft tall? You say a woman shouldn't feel insecure about that, but not all women can control that. You have your own life experiences that cause you to understand it from a mans perspective who is slightly short. Nothing wrong with that. But until you walk in a really tall woman's shoes you can't understand how she feels. She may feel like she can't wear heels or she will be too tall, or that she isn't feminine enough, or that men won't be attracted to her because she is taller than him. I'm 5" 5' so 5" 4' isn't a problem. I know women who are married to men shorter than them, one is way shorter than his wife. But not every woman is that secure. And you can't just say that women have the power to not let that bother them. Their are men who let their height bother them, so its not fair to say that tall women should just get over it. For them it might not be that simple. Since lots of people probably have associated shortness with femininity when it pertains to women.
You're right. I should s off it off that easily. Men let it bother them too. I can easy going and don't worry about things I can't control. Right. A 5'5" woman with a 5'4" man may be okay to her but a 6' woman with a 5'4" would feel ashamed.
I've been slapped in the face for telling women to suck it up and she chewed me out after the slap and said I'm insensitive but didn't mean to anger her. Just didn't thing it was a huge deal.
Thanks for understanding. I mean, I'm sure there will be someone who likes you for you. With your height and personality and all. But I understand its probably difficult sometimes for men who are shorter and women who are taller. But thanks for responding, and in such a nice way. I can appreciate that
Depends on the woman, sometimes, but not all the time. Sometimes it will result in tears.. maybe you are more emotionally strong then some women, but women can be a bit more sensitive. So maybe try to be a little more delicate hon.
Um, slapping and kicking is a no go. No form of physical violence is okay. I understand spanking a kid when they are very naughty as a kid, but there is a point where even spankings stop..
Well also i think maybe a guy isn't super hot but maybe he isn't fat. So he still doesn't want a fat girl but she dont have to be hot. Nobody wants a fat girl except the weird fattie fetish men. Im good looking and i dont mind dating not super hot girls but they better be like size 0 or athletic bodies.
@Smiley_face101 i think its sexy and how the fuck is it unhealthy? My girlfriend is size 0 and she just doesn't have much muscle. She still has jiggly boobs and ass.
Most of these "average guys" are lazy losers who just sit around all day eating junk and playing video games. Real men aren't afraid to put in the work required and respect themselves enough to do so and pursue what they want for themselves.
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This kind of question is as old as Reddit. You're attention whoring us all with this one.
How "good looking" are you, again? We all know your personality is garbage anyway. Now, we've seen super ugly land whales with "standards" on TV.. just wanna make sure you're not a an obese/ugly internet chick with stage-5 NPD. Post your video for all of us ;)
Some women do have unrealistic standard but a lot of men say that because they don't have what you want yet they want you so they will try to lower them to their level by making you think they are unrealistic
That’s one good question. I totally support you. When i tell my guy friend that i want an intelligent guy who is educated and has a job, he tells me why i am looking up? although i am well educated with good job woman myself.
From what I've noticed, the complaints seem to center around average or less attractive women having what the guys view as unreasonably high standards, not the most desirable women.
Because you do and we see it in action everyday. And you girls can't be talking when you want guys to love you if your fat and out of shape. Maybe these ugly guys are flirting with you because your ugly lol
They are. Problem is the women's standards are so incredibly unrealistically high to where very few men meet up to those standards. Even the ugly and average girls have those high standards.
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Ummm don't you mean why do women create massive social campaigns to try and push men into liking what they think men should like?
Y does there have to be a rating on how someone looks? Why isn't someone's heart how you rate their appeal? Why is it the people with the biggest hearts get trampled on or looked over for the physically appealing?
Why do women get pissed at men's standards when older men go for younger attractive beautiful women? Why don't they find someone in the age range that suits them they more compatible with?
Of course you have nothing against it now because you are 20 years old. Wait another 10 to 20 years and reexamine your opinion. By the way, most men especially western men that use to do that, they have gone MGTOW and they aren't renting girls anymore like that anymore. They're going straight to dolls, cheaper and much much safer.
If a woman was fucking around till 40 years old and expect a high quality man then it’s her problème to be delusional. I’m willing to marry before the age of 25, cause it’s the range of age when I’m more attractive, fertile and allowed to have standards, especially that I expect to marry a guy who’s maybe a decade older than me, and more financially stable even if I’m educated and I’m waiting mariage to have sex.
According to what you said, you're not willing to wait until you are old to settle down, that's not what feminism is teaching women girls. Feminism is teaching them to wait until they have careers, don't get married and don't have children until they've had everything else they want. Feminism has turned western women into whores that get old and then want to settle down. So far by what you've told me, not so much with the materialism, but you do have the right idea about settling down before it's too late. Just don't let feminist IE feminazi's tell you any different.
@Why do women get pissed at men's standards when older men go for younger attractive beautiful women? Why don't they find someone in the age range that suits them they more compatible with?
How is this comparable to average guys refusing to go for average women
@VIVANT You see, the problem with older men not wanting to date older women is because they don't find them attractive anymore. At around age 40 older men find their daughters attractive by that time, not them anymore. So then why didn't the men settled down with those 40 year old women when they were the same age? Well because those women were chasing the top 10% of guys not giving them the time of day, that's why. Those women went on to marry those types of guys when they were younger thinking they could change them into what they wanted them to be. The raised children with those types of guys and spent the better part of the youth with those types of guys. But those better to do types of guys eventually do what they do best, because they still have what those girls when for, money. They find younger girls is what they do and ditch the marriage they never cared about in the first place or cause it to happen. And then the next thing you know, here comes those had it all done it all women thinking those guys that once did look at them are right there waiting for them to give them a second shot and but they're not. Those women gave the best part of their youth to those other men and those guys like their daughters by then. And at the age of 40, it's now the guys choice, not so much hers anymore and why should those guys choose them instead of the younger girls that have their youthful years to offer those guys something they missed out on and something that counted the most they have the ability to offer those guys children the guys didn't get to have. So now, why should those guys now give those older women the time of day? You tell me.
@ThisAndThat you’re littérale admiring that hypergamy exist in both genders. Men seek young attractive women and women seek strong providers. Why should an attractive woman give a chance to an average joe if she can get a hot guy? A lot of below average looking chicks were willing to date this rejected nice guys. These nice guys want the hottest women they can get but get bitter and angry when these women ignore them. What a double standard. They’re literally be like «why are women so shallow? I am just a genuine nice guy who want to date the hottest chick here!» And don’t believe that these nice guys are good men cause most of them are just like that in the beginning of the relationship but they often turn into cheaters and jerks! Don’t act like nooo woman in this world gave you a chance when you were both young, you just never gave a fuck about her cause she didn’t attracted you just like the hot chicks didn’t gave you a chance cause you didn’t attracted her. It’s like women are never allowed to settle down to something they like, when I hear you they must always date losers lmao
Yes I had two serious relationships when I was younger the last one driving me MGTOW monk 33 years ago and they were both hypergamous relationships. If you call gold digging standards then I guess so. We men base our attraction on you your person (women). You women base your attraction on objects, things (money). Do you see the difference? Either way, the system is rigged against men (myself), society sees me as bad and I like millions of other men see no point in dating relationships or marriage in this lifetime. I'm simply playing the waiting game waiting for my time to come and then I'm gone.
I think wemon should have standards that way they can try and achieve them I guess it is just me but I will be with who I please but If A ugly girl Is walking with me just wait I am going to change her to a queen
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