Guys, do you find "Venus of Willendorf" body type attractive? Why or why not?

[Anonymous]

This is Venus of Willendorf.

"many researchers have interpreted the statues' voluptuous characteristics as symbols of fertility, sexuality, beauty, and motherhood."

[ODC2112]

The canons of beauty and attractiveness are socially related to the social economic status of the time they were there. In poor societies the fat woman is considered beautiful, in miserable societies the obese woman is considered beautiful, on the contrary in rich societies it is the thin woman who is considered beautiful.

The Venus of Willedorf represents a woman with a steatopygian body. In itself we do not know if it is a representation of a deity or a person, as the steatopygia remains a representation of some African cultures such as Hottentots and Bushmen. The interpretation is made by anthropologists according to the customs of these peoples.

Anthropologists are almost always wrong, the Paleolithic venus would not represent an ideal of beauty or fertility of the time, but the dream of having a full belly in a period when food was scarce.

The first modern humans, the Aurignacians, entered Europe some 48,000 years ago. At the time, the climatic conditions were good and allowed hunter-gatherers to find nourishment with relative ease. However, a few millennia later the situation changed, and temperatures began to plummet to 10-15 degrees below zero. Getting food became more and more difficult, and it was precisely at that time that the first statuettes in stone, ivory, horn or clay, from 6 to 16 centimeters large, depicting plump women began to be produced.

They were not a hymn to fertility or beauty, but an amulet to hope for better times, dreaming of that abundance. In fact, such a woman can hardly have children because obesity is one of the main causes of female infertility.

Personally I deem an obese woman as, sick and repulsive.

[MCheetah]

No, but I get it. Our standards of beauty are related to the environment around us. Up until like 100-150 years ago, big girls were the sexiest things around, because it implied they were well-fed, thus healthy, thus could give good children.

Nowadays, skinny girls (especially among white and Asian men, the two richest demographics) are what's considered attractive because skinny and fit bodies are a sign of wealth and social status, and (middle class and higher white and Asian) men subconsciously attribute that to being a high-value woman, like a Victoria's Secret model or A-list actress. However, all other races of men (as well as working class white men) like curves in women more, because curves are still a sign of a well-fed, healthy woman who can give healthy childbirth, as well as also just being "more woman" than usual, thus "more of what you like").

I'm not that attracted to the Venus of Willendorf body mainly because she looks like my late grandmother, but nude. However, people's tastes in the opposite sex exist for a reason and one should not shame someone for what they find sexy or attractive in a person.

[Kenzy009]

I don't give a crap about these so called "beauty standards". I will always be attracted to the same type of women. Do you really think people are tought who they like? its based on natural instincs developt by evolution

[MCheetah]

@Kenzy009
Nah. Or else most white men wouldn't like a size 2 twig with no curves like they do, and wouldn't be so cruel to curvy girls. These women literally look more like pre-teen boys than women, so that theory goes out the window!

[MCheetah]

And no, I'm not giving them crap for liking skinny women.

[Juan_Curious]

In modern China, as well as in the ancient China, too, obese people are seem as an omen for good luck. Does it mean that the Chinese would find obese people more attractive to be with? I don't think so. We shouldn't forget that these ancient statues were symbols, not facts. Ancient Greek statues, p. ex., had small penises. Did that mean that Greeks idealized small penises? I don't think so. They more possibly tried to highlight through statues other aspects and parts of the human body that would be more effectively linked with the qualities society considered more important and essential for the common good than bed performance (bravery, wisdom, etc.)

[SunnyFlorida]

That statue is over 25,000 year old. At that period of time, there were probably frequent famines. So FAT was rare and highly sought after status of being rich and powerful.

Modern era: FAT has many negative connotations associated with it. I'll pass on the fat chicks!

[MarkRet]

No. I've read the Jean Auel books, which are set in prehistoric times. In those stories, that statue represents the Great Mother, their deity. The face is always covered in braids, so you can't see it. I can't think of that statue in any other way, other than a deity.

[jshm2]

No one really know what it is. It's only assumed to be some sort of "fertility" thing. Despite the fact it's one of a kind, and was likely expensive and difficult to make in that era.

Seems a lot of effort to go to for making something to beat your meat to.

My guess would be it's just a funny art piece

[litty]

I mean was that the ONLY sculpture they found? Was it on some sort of altar or cave painting where they worship a curvy looking statue with a beehive on it's head?

I don't even see how anyone could look like that in 24000BC. In today's society, the only way someone can get those kind of proportions is that they they consume an extraordinary amount of unprocessed foods or calories, don't get a minimum amount of exercise, and/or they have issues with their hormones.

[GoldenAxer]

Not so much. I suspect if that figure was idolized, it was in the case of a woman whose predominant purpose was childbearing and child-rearing in an environment with scarce resources with others bringing her food like a queen bee.

[GoldenAxer]

I prefer the type of body of a woman who can work alongside me and somewhat keep up with me when we sprint.

[Slartybartfast]

future archiologist dig up a few troll dolls and garden gnomes 1000 years from now, make assumptions... .

[andreasderjuengere]

I find women who wear a full-head basket to be a little off my own interests.
The body shape must have inspired the invention of the wheel.
What we don't know: the artist of this sculpture could have been a cartoonist 😙

[hahahmm]

Imagine if 3k years from now some idiot claimed that men used to find Mrs Potato Head's body type sexy because they found an old store with 500 dolls in it.

[Ghostlock]

I for one find it very unattractive. It is a sign of overeating, unhealthy, bad genetics, low energy and overall unattractive. I don't put them down, I simply am not turned on by it and those are my personal reasons.

[Avcfhcic]

Absolutely not lol
She's way overweight, I don't know how you can want this in a girl

[HawkPerception]

Not a chance I would ever find that attractive. That is a blob covered with a mask.

[EssenceOfLight]

No. In prehistoric times having well-fed wife was sign of having lots of resources, nowadays it's exactly the opposite.

[SeanshterMonster]

No. God that's just. Repulsive. If I was fat. Sure. But I'm skinny, so no. Can't cuddle, ugly flaps, supper baggy, and just over all looks like a pile of greese.

[cth96190]

The statue shows a woman who is morbidly obese, which is repulsive to me.

[genericname85]

no i don't, caise being morbidly obese is not a sign of success and indicator for likely surival as it was in those times.

[Anonymous]

Back then yes, these body types were charished because skinny type of girls starved. You also have ti be wealthy to eat like that. Now food is everywhere. No famine. Back then yes and they were correct.. Not nowadays..

[_Troian_]

Hahah.. u talking about a handmade statue which was made 25.000 years ago.

[Anonymous]

Fuck no. I find it hard to believe anyone ever thought it was hot. I think the artist was being very very symbolic. Like in those cartoons where hercules has a 2 inch waist and 50 inch shoulders

[Waldoe]

looks more like "Grand-motherhood" I'm old... so I Love it

[bamesjond0069]

No. Its repulsive and the sign of a society in decline.

[Ryfyle]

That statue is more indicative of someone crafting it through a first person perspective.

[REDHOTLINE]

No this is fat.
I like big boobs and boty with thin belly

[Anonymous]

Lol no. It’s just a symbol, doesn’t mean it was necessarily attractive.

[Anonymous]

Those boobs though. I wouldn’t kick her out of bed.

[Anonymous]

I can’t tell if that’s her arms or boobs but either way she’s obese and would not be attractive

[DonkeyDan]

Not really, because it's an unhealthy body type.

[Adam1978]

No I find it repulsive.

[es20490446e]

In America it means sickness.

[sp33d]

Doesn't look healthy. Naturally repelling.