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As a modern man, what should women and the world expect from you? (Page 2)
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It's less about what women and the world should expect from me and more about what I can expect about myself. Being extremely self reliant is very much part of who I am and has been since I was a kid. It is one of the reasons why I have always preferred solitude to the company of others. So I guess the world and women can only expect to see me as I'm doing something like grocery shopping and that's about it.
Women should expect me to be myself. I'm self-sufficient, reliable, and emotionally intelligent. But I also keep to myself, am fiercely independent, and expect women to put themselves out there if they want me to do the same. I don't pursue unless she does.
I think that nowadays its more individual as to gender roles. If you, as a woman, act more independently, any man that is attracted to you, should appreciate and respect that. If the expectation is there for something more traditional to happen, then the right partners should be chosen. Point in case, people will be who they are, no matter what.
What should they expect from me?
Nothing. They should expect nothing from me.
I live for myself, not to meet anyone else's expectations.
Well, I think both a woman and a man should get along and love one another and not expect sex all the time or any type of sex act to go on... Also, I believe couples should sit down and talk things over instead of getting into heated arguments.. Also, couples need to know not all women and men are the same.
But what should we expect from you? I don't care about all men
@lilyanony1 We like to do the cooking, do dishes, do laundry
we like to go to bed to cuddle and snuggle with our woman
Is that whst you like to do?
@lilyanony1 Yeah and willing to do more
I hope you find someone that appreciates you. They'd be very lucky to have you.
@lilyanony1 Thank you so much :)
to be perfectly honest... to this day, I never got any "complaints" from women, or... the world...
so, I'm just not counting myself on this "men vs women war" that some seem to have going on
That I am a decent man unless something as proven it to be wrong. I don't want you any harm or have any desires regarding you at all. Ie start from a neutral position not a negative one.
Fundamentally women and the world *should* expect nothing from me. The only question to be answered is do I like this person or not.
What they *actually* expect is similar to the 50’s and 60’s, sure. The move toward equality was only to allow picking a choosing of the things they did and didn’t like about it. Men still had expectations to live up to but weren’t permitted expectations of their own to balance it out.
Dignity and respect... just like for any human being. That's what everyone deserves until they prove that they don't deserve it.
Out of curiosity do you sometimes feel people don't treat you with dignity and respect?
I don't care anymore, I guess.
If they're a nobody in my life I'll ignore them unless they cause trouble, then I'll go deal with it.
If they're supposed to be a "friend" I'll confront it when it happens.
I dealt with low self-esteem for a long time.
Once I got past that the pettiness didn't hurt anymore... because I'd been letting them hurt me.
Those days are over.
People only have power over us if we give it to them.
If we're talking about equality, nothing.
Its not the 50s anymore so if women are no longer expected to act according to their gender role, men shouldn't be expected to uphold theirs.
Of course, women like to engage in a bit of hypocrisy in this regard and will still expect chivalry from men and men will oblige or be shamed for it. Because as we all know, when a woman says she wants equality, she only wants it when its convenient and beneficial
Do you realise all of you have hung on to one sentence and replied I this really angry manner. I specifically asked you to define what to expect of YOU not men.
Nothing. Because we dont live in the 50s anymore
But I wasn't saying we live in the 50's, the man that responded to the post I read before making my own did.
You would have known that if you read what I wrote properly
I did read it. Thats why i said that because we're not in the 50s , nothing should be expected from me.
Like you said , it's an archaic mindset.
So things like providing, protecting and chivalry are done.
And you're right, this does annoy me. Because I've had this debate with a few women and all of them were so adamant about being independent and equal while still having the mindset that men still have to act like in the 50s.
No self awareness
Well I personally can say I didn't expect anything of a guy. I had my own place that I rent, I chose whether I cooked for him and we decided if we were going out to eat. I happily split the bill. He never wanted to look broke so asked for my half of the money before we went into the restaurant so he could pay. I didn't try and manipulate him into things or staying with me everything was his choice. If I wanted him to stay I'd ask if he said no I didn't push.
Not even trying that I'm lonely or scared or sleep with him so good he will pass out. I just accepted it. If he wanted to meet and do something then I'd go if I could. And vice versa but he always declined my events. He also called me names and just treated me like trash.
I've had other men comment on how easy it is to get on with me and still they take the piss.
So my think is I really don't have time for this nonsense.
I was kind enough to ask this question because I was tired of seeing people bashing men because I believe there are still decent ones out there but it seems that they either don't think much of themselves have allowed the crap get to their heads or they're using this as an opportunity to be angry with me.
Whatever really... Whatever!
I wish you well.