I know everyone is a little different, and that the phrase "traditional relationship" means different things to different people. When I hear that phrase, I immediately think of a 1950s home dynamic.
So guys, when you say you want a traditional relationship, what are you envisioning?
Most of these loud male GaGers don't know what they mean or what they want.
What I want and what I have is a relationship where I am the primary winner of the bread. I make all the financial decisions. But it is my responsibility to meet all our financial obligations, for saving money, for paying bills, taking vacations, etc.
But I expect for her to keep the home. Because I don't want to cook or clean. Sure I will help out when I can. But not when I have worked all night to build an email server or have to get up at 1am to respond to a data center outage.
I do my part, she does hers. I don't ask for much. But the little I ask for is part of the deal or everything else falls apart.
I think the issue our society has it that it destroyed an average male's ability to be the sole provider for his family. So most families need two incomes to survive. And in the information and services age, women can be the primary providers. This has become devastating to many males out there as they are struggling trying to understand what makes them masculine. And we don't talk about it, because to diagnose ourselves isn't a masculine thing. So many males complain about about women and the increased footprint of their role (s). Because for so long, they depended on their proximity to women to define their masculinity. If they had inherently more rights, then that made them feel masculine. But as women proved they could make as much money, become sports icons, business/political leaders, these males became very defensive.
Some internalize these frustrations, then explode in fits of rage and violence. Some seek to put women back in the box, to feel better about their masculinity. Then others fall by the wayside, developing all manner of psychological and social issues. It is a growing problem as you can see from the many loud male GaGers here. They take to online to claim the reasons for their issues with masculinity can be answered through a political movement. It isn't simple economics where women don't want to themselves or their families to end up in poverty.
It is political brainwashing if women don't want that fate for themselves or their children. So they are angry at the women. But not at the politics responsible for eroding their ability to be providers. In the end, it is all about victimization. As it is someone else's responsibility to make them feel masculine again.
I actually don't want a traditional relationship in the way you say you imagine this being. If I say "traditional" I'm referring to women being feminine, loyal, not promiscuous, etc. Now, what does it mean to he feminine in today's US, because surely women all over the world are different from each other. In the US, I think being feminine, in regards to a woman, means complementing and contrasting masculinity. I don't think femininity is weak, rather, I think it is considerate, caring, kind, sensitive, thoughtful, sentimental, and more. I'm not saying masculinity is the opposite of this, but think of it as a more darker or richer shade of all of what makes feminity. In other words, I imagine feminity as being bright and comforting; masculinity as being dark and warm. I don't want a woman who constantly feels the need to assert herself, lock horns with me, call me insecure when I tell her a preference of mine, can't have a reasonable discussion with me, etc.
I feel like the modern American woman has gotten a stigma in recent years.
This can be a mixture of a lot of things.
I think being a traditional woman does not mean weak, but doesn't also mean you have to compete with and become men.
If we’re basing it on the 1950s traditional relationship. He wants a subservient woman who cooks and cleans while raising the children. He comes home from work, sits down and expects to be served, and doesn’t help with anything. He works and takes care of the family. He also expects her to not talk back, accept his advances no matter what (or he’ll just force it)
Now in 2022 unless he has an amazing job or is loaded that’s not possible. Cost of living is too much to survive on one income. If he wants to work himself to death; working multiple jobs to make ends meet he’s welcome to do that. But assuming his wife loves him I’d expect her to want him around for a while; so she’d probably prefer to work too and take some of the load off.
An alternative that many dudes seem to think is 50/50. But it’s not 50/50, for some guys the idea of 50/50 is he works, pays the bills and does some ‘manly’ chores (shovelling the drive or mowing the lawn, fixing something that breaks) and calls it a day. Meanwhile his wife would work a full day, cook and clean up, help the kids with homework, bathe and put them to bed. She has the heavier load than he does it’s more like 25/75 with the 75% being put on the wife. A real 50/50 relationship would be both cook, both work, both clean and participate in chores, both participate in the childcare and rearing.
If someone wants a traditional relationship, their sole focus would probably be getting married, no premarital sex, no living together before marriage, and the woman being subservient to the man. When they do get married, the man would probably be the only one who works and bears all financial responsibility, and the woman would be dependent on him for everything. She would be expected to be a stay-at-home mom or a homemaker and raise their kids.
Personally, I don't see any appeal in this. I would take care of my man, but I do not think it is traditional because it is a natural want for everyone to be taken care of. I would take care of him as a partner, not as a mom though. I'd expect him to do the same. I'd go for work and he would do the same. I don't think a single income household would be feasible in this economy and my mother has always taught me never to be financially dependent on a man.
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Traditional woman who follows the man's lead and is submissive and feminine. Where he pays all the bills and comes home to a clean house and home cooked meal. Now in 2022 this can be altered a bit but that is what they mean.
Usually that means that the man takes charge, but you really have to ask the man telling you that’s what he wants
Men:
- loyal to his family
- Dedicates his life to the family through provisions
- First line of physical defense and needs to be ready to give his life for his family
- Discards hedonism of any form
- Ready to take charge and decide ultimate choices for the family at his own expense
- Able to handle rebellion in the home as the "enforcer" and "trainer"
- The voice of stability and family dispute judge
Women:
- Loyal to her family
- Dedicates her life to the family through management of the household
- Second line of physical defense and primary rescuer of kids
- Discards hedonism of any form
- Ready to assist in serious situations as 2nd in command, but 1st in command in domestic affairs in the household and management
- Able to comfort family members in the home as the "supporter" and "carer"
- The voice of comfort and emotional support to the family
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This is how I personally view the "traditional relationship".
I basically find that if the father is the "soldier/cop", then the mother is the "EMT/nurse". If the father is the "boss/product orderer", then the mother is the "manager/consultant".
I think a single parent family would be like a cop with an emt bag or a boss with no employees: it can work but it will never be more effective for the kids compared to the traditional household/relationship. (You could have a terrible husband/wife that would screw everything up, but that is a whole other "can of worms".)
For me it means a relationship where the woman has the opportunity to focus on the home making in any creatice way and things she's passionate about. Realistically I'm not in a situation where i could be the only breadwinner that's mostly because I chose a subject to study that I was passionate about in school not because it gives a big paycheck.
So though I'm not gonna be poor it's not a situation where I'm sure I could be the only breadwinner for-ever. I just would want to work for a situation where she has the opportunity to work half time and we'll still have a good living.
I'm not really keen on a 1950s home dynamics mostly because it could lead to a situation where I'm off for work all day and I'm not part of the life of my children and that's something i want to prevent. Also nothing i can ask from a woman living inage where many of them are at least equally educated.
Wife barefoot and pregnant, man is a useless sack of entitled meat who can't cope with progress and equality. Probably cares more about his truck and his dog than his wife and daughter... Of course in either case his fantasy is to drive one into the ground and lust after the other, probably while quoting biblical verse and gop propaganda he saw on Facebonk.
Sorry for the graphic response, but in my experience men who advertise they are seeking a "traditional" relationship are using that word as a euphemism fya whole rabbit hole of abusive behavior.
She is a "home maker" not a wife. She is June Cleaver.
*Knows and performs domestic skills without complaint, inside and outside the home.
*Loves and is loyal to her man and to her children.
*Serves as Executive officer to her husband as commanding officer of the home and participates in financial, "capital" and social planning
*Actively pursues her children's' education and athletic interests.
*Serves her husband sexually but maintains her moral integrity doing it. She is not a sex robot.
*Stays clear of any "woke' or social justice ideology and maintains her femininity.
*Is educated with useful work skills, more often than not, Nursing, where she can contribute to the family if trouble happens. If it does, she becomes "Evie Teale" from the Western movie I'm "Conagher".
That is what my Step-mom was. I'm sure there's more.
Well well well. I've grown in traditional family and I can say that there is advantages and disadvantages but still im more into to the traditional relationship and values etc cause I believe it's the right thing to be.
Let's say traditional relationship which means men are first in relationships. Like they are the one who decide and lead. Women are more like following men's orders. But that doesn't mean men can force women to the do whatever they want.
Men are protector and first financial supporter. Men must pay everything else. Women are more like caring houseworks and kids. Sometimes women don't work in traditional relationship and they care kids in house.
There is many things which can be added to list but most important ones are these. Also in traditional relationship women and men belongs to the eachother there is no other men and women even friends.
what is up with the obsession over "traditional roles" on this website? literally every week, i see this question pop up. nobody cares about traditional roles any more especially in the gen z population. its completely outdated (unaffordable) and will be ridiculed / laughed at in another 10 - 20 years from now.
When I envision a traditional relationship I envision my grandparents style relationship.
1. intense loyalty to spouses , family and close friends.
2. involvement in communal groups whether it be the church, community center or charity.
3. No sex until marriage or a least engagement rings.
4. Assistance with my chores if possible and vise versa.
5. A woman who doesn't need overly flashy are materialistic things to be happy.
6. A woman who wear non-revealing clothing. The man must also dress well.
7. A woman that can cook. (Cooking saves money to raise children)
8. kids
I think it means something different to everyone. To me it means a marriage in which the wife is willing to put the welfare of the children ahead of her career ambitions while they are young, the man financially supports the family during that time, and then she goes back into the workforce to help financially support the fairly once the kids are old enough.
It means not toeing the feminist party line and being willing to allow men to do men things and women to do women things in the relationship. That obviously means different things to different people, but I think there are some commonalities to what that means in most people's minds.
It means respecting, appreciating and supporting masculinity and femininity, something we see less and less of these days, to the chagrin of both sexes.
They want a woman to cook, clean, fuck, that stays quiet and doesn't bug them when they play games after working their shift at McDonald's.
I usually assume it’s the man being the main breadwinner in a marriage while the woman stays home or in this day and age maybe works less hours and handle more childcare duties. I have to say I barely know of marriages anymore where the wife stays home and doesn’t work. The only marriages I know where that has been remotely affordable is when the husband is a doctor or surgeon (I work at a hospital).
A traditional "relationship" could simply mean marriage. A traditional "marriage" typically means one where the husband is the primary breadwinner and the woman's main focus is to raise children if they have any. If there are no children at present then she may or may not have a job as well, but usually her main concern is being a homemaker.
It's a relationship where the man is a gentleman and the woman is a lady, where they respect and value each other's differences as a man and a woman, and where each is allowed and expected to do the things that come natural to them as a man and a woman and they appreciate and value each other for those things. That is the essence of a traditional relationship.
To me it means a relationship with a woman who doesn't get defensive as if her natural role of being a mother and homemaker is a bad thing. Someone who enjoys and is proud of that role and is strong enough to see through the politically correct brainwashing that tells her that her natural role is somehow demeaning.
I think he meant to say that he is a little bit a old fashioned type of guy...
He sees himself as the men in house so he has to work and provide for his family whyle his wife i at home taking care of the children.
I think he wants a relationship like it used to be in the past
Not everybody's going to have that picture perfect home where the woman is serving her husband. I don't like that very sexist. To me a traditional family. There's children. We all sit down we all have dinner together, we all pray together. We all try to work together as a unit. One of us can be the provider of the home whoever makes the most. The other puts their career on hold until the children are either in school or empty nesters. There has been many a Time that I was humbled by a big layoff. We were thankful that my wife's business pulled us through those lean times. We all cannot have the homes like leave it to Beaver or Father knows Best. We did have a beautiful happy home life. Where our children remember their childhood. where they could go home and discuss their activities of the day or they're disappointments.
They want you to have 100 babies, not work, keep the house spotless while raising 100 babies entirely on your own and to have a hot dinner ready for him when he gets home. Then he passes out in bed while you're still expected to care for those kids and clean the dishes. Oh, and dont ask where he’s been when he comes home super late; he’s allowed to have side chicks.
They want a maid to cook, clean, wash their clothes, shut up and be a baby making machine for him and don't leave the house unless you are going to the grocery store to buy food to cook and don't even dream or think of educating yourself to achieve a career or dream of yours.
Your dream should be to be stuck in the house cooking and cleaning all week.
Traditional men are a P. O. S.
Something that doesn’t involve western interference.
The one that involves the man paying for everything and the woman give genuine love and loyalty.
no, pity and shallow arguments that have no place or meaning for any relationship.
