I'm okay with body positivity, and think there are some of sexy "bigger" girls out there.. But I agree with you.. They have taken it too far.. When you say it's okay to stay morbidly obese, then that's too much.. Like many have said, a lot of people just try to justify they lazy and unhealthy lifestyles, and some justtry to feel better by downin skinny girls..
Yes completely agree!! Then you also got this fat people wearing things they shouldn't be wearing.
We see a progression in terms over the last couple of decades from fat to big to BBW because it makes these people feel better. That's all anyone cares about anymore and it's pathetic. You're fat. You can either go cry in your little safe space about it, you can accept it and embrace it, or you can try to change it for a healthier lifestyle.
Those people are just lying, she's fat to the point that her fat is drooping off her bones... I know think this girl can go rock climbing, which a normal girl that never worked out could do an indoor one easily for the day.. this girl would be done half way she's too heavy to pick her herself
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I suppose there’s a big lack of one key topic related to this that’s being mentioned: being metabolically healthy despite a substantially big amount of body fat. There are a fraction of obese people who have stored a large amount of their fat as subcutaneous fat, which is hardly/not dangerous. Most others though, they tend to store more of their fat as the deeper and more dangerous visceral fat. Maybe these people in the media are trying to refer to those obese people who are metabolically healthy rather than those with more visceral fat? You can be really obese and still have little consequences from being so fat, as long as it is mostly subcutaneous fat (the kind you can see and can jiggle). In these cases, the only shown negative effects of being so fat is being that heavy in the first place. It may only be bad for your joints to carry such a large amount of weight, but that’s it.
100% agree with you. It's time people realize that just because it makes you feel good it doesn't mean that it's true. Just because you tell yourself that it's healthy, it doesn't make it healthy. It's time we stop validating wrong ideals. I'm all for "live your life however you want to", but I'm not okay with unhealthy propaganda being drilled into the minds of the impressionable youth.
Well said. The whole "body positive" movement just promotes an unhealthy lifestyle, and not to mention, obesity is considered extremely unattractive by the vast majority of both men and women.
I know sumo wrestlers consume thousands of calories per meal, yet they also do a ridiculous amount of training because they don't want to be a blob. They actually have a surprising amoubt of muscle under the fat. They are trying to be heavyweight champions on the ring that are unstoppable.
I also know quite a few dancers/cast members that do loads of physical activities and eat healthy, but they have a slow metabolism so they find it hard to lose weight. Same goes for those with genuine medical conditions or are on medication.
However most fat people are fat because they don't eat healthily and/or they don't do any exercise.
Or they don't have a consistent eating schedule... I've noticed that I put on weight if I eat infrequently but eat large amounts when I do eat... like one meal a day -since apparently, it puts the body into starvation mode, where the metabolism is slowed right down, and then eating... e. g. a main meal plus dessert... with like, 500ml+ of water/milk/squash. So yeah, that also causes people to put on weight.
I think it was originally meant for people who can’t help their size. For example, my sister has PCOS and she’s been overweight her whole life. She works out and is vegan but still stays at a constant larger size. The problem is we have obese people who can help their size who are using the movement for themselves. Either way, if they want to think they’re healthy and it’s okay to be that big, go ahead. It’s not my problem.
@24brownish Too lazy to put in my own words completely but here's what google has to say! A hormonal disorder causing enlarged ovaries with small cysts on the outer edges.
Symptoms include obesity, being overweight or weight gain. My sister said they can lose weight but it's extremely hard to keep it off. She said if she doesn't workout everyday for at least an hour and/or eats the wrong things for even a day, she gains.
Omg thats tough... i hope she heals n may God give us health. I always used to think my genes dont allow me to gain muscle easily and others were luckier, i suppose hearing anout such diseases makes u thankful for what u have.
there is a difference between big, fat and extremely obese, someone can be big or a little chubby and still be beautiful but, extremely obese and trying to justify it as beauty is plain mental illness
it’s just idiotic ignorance, and they are feeding the wrong idea. A 300 pound women will never be as healthy as a women with a fit body, and the same goes for men. I have some people at my school who are with this “movement.” I was fat back then and had friends who are fat, after I got skinnier, all my plus size friends kept telling me how I must really hate myself, and how being plus size is the best way to live. I stopped being friends with them after they told me that.
They can do and say whatever they want. Nature will always tell us that obesity to extent displayed in that picture will always be extremely unattractive. You have fetishist, but nothing past that. It’s simply unhealthy and unattractive. So let them scream to society how beautiful they are... maybe they’ll burn some calories in the process lol.
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I think when you say they’re fat and it’s bad they take it so personal and that’s why this movement started? I dislike it cause it’s stupid, that size is unhealthy, and if you’re telling people it’s alright they’ll keep staying unhealthy, I don’t care if they’re fat or not, but if you tell them it’s fine to be that big they’ll stay unhealthy.
What if a girl is thin or average but unhealthy? Maybe she eats too many potatoe chips or smokes or has toxic mental health. Don’t unhealthy people also deserve respect and freedom to live their lives? Many fat people are healthy whereas many thin people are not. I personally was much more unhealthy in a variety of ways when I was thin than when I was a bit bigger. Of course no one is saying to promote morbid obesity but the problem is that thin people’s issues are invisible and ignored while fat people are shamed solely based on looks. If someone doesn’t like fat people they should just say so instead of using health as an excuse. Health is between a person and their doctor period.
She wasn’t using unhealthy as a way to say she didn’t like fat people, she was just saying that it seems the ‘Big is Beautiful’ movement is promoting people to be overweight and it’s not a good idea to get into people’s heads because it’s not a good idea I’m slightly overweight and think people should accept themselves and accept others for who they are but I agree with what she said wether she meant it or not, you’re taking it as she’s she’s saying that fat people are disgusting and that she hates them and others should too, but that’s not what she’s saying she’s concerned about others seeing this movement and thinking it’s okay to let yourself go and become overweight too while in reality it’s a bad idea to do that because it can affect you poorly in the future and create complications with your body
In order to get that fat in 98 percent of cases, one has to eat excess calories. Too much science to prove anyone wrong. The body has NO CHOICE but to worker HARDER to keep a fat person alive. That is like car wear and tear.
Health is more so in terms of what we feed our body AND how much damage it does.
the pressure on your heart and veins is a something we can prove from excess weight Even thin people habits will catch up because the science is there. simple.
So no a fat a person is not healthier only because of the extra mileage they are adding to their body period, You literal can not ignore that. The damage is now showing on the outside.
while I agree health should be between a doctor and the person. Saying who more healthy is like saying I total know that person in and out. But the world did give us a gauge to use so we dont have to run to the doctor every five minutes. and when you have unhealthy "habits" it will "show eventually
But I think people have enough sense to use proven methods. Its just human nature to do so, if I had to pick players on my team I clearly going to go for the thinner person they will be quicker and just basic knowledge.
I never said I don't like fat people, in fact I said many times everybody should be comfortable and have body positivity. But my MyTake was about the big is beautiful movement, and wasn't aimed at thin people whom also have health issues, that's why I didn't feel a need to mention them. But I think it's ridiculous you are trying to say I don't like fat people and are just using health issues as an excuse, because I didn't just make up all these health issues, they are all very real and many obese people are affected by them. If you don't want to face the truth, then don't, but don't you dare say I'm not accepting other people or shaming their looks, when I was saying the exact opposite.
I know some women who are like this and they tried to rip my self esteem limb from limb by telling my friend group that they happen to be in that my weight isn’t where I want it and I want to lose it. They lost their shit and acted like I advocated the extermination of obese people.
I also have the perfect video for you though. It shows the absurdity of the fat acceptance movement perfectly.
From a point-of-view of a big girl, the campaign is sadly misleading. It should send the idea that love who you are now but there is always room for improvement. And the health risks are real as fck. I know im not a saint and I have my lapses in making myself healthier but I know that I should make ways to be health but at the same time loving who I am at the moment.
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I'm okay with body positivity, and think there are some of sexy "bigger" girls out there.. But I agree with you.. They have taken it too far.. When you say it's okay to stay morbidly obese, then that's too much.. Like many have said, a lot of people just try to justify they lazy and unhealthy lifestyles, and some justtry to feel better by downin skinny girls..
Yes completely agree!! Then you also got this fat people wearing things they shouldn't be wearing.
We see a progression in terms over the last couple of decades from fat to big to BBW because it makes these people feel better. That's all anyone cares about anymore and it's pathetic. You're fat. You can either go cry in your little safe space about it, you can accept it and embrace it, or you can try to change it for a healthier lifestyle.
It is objectively a bad thing to be fat. Also i love seeing the fat acceptance movement getting destroyed
And for those hater's info, fat people shame fit people for having privilege so it goes both ways
finally someone says it lol
And I would love to point out those 5 fat asses who downvotes hehe.
Those people are just lying, she's fat to the point that her fat is drooping off her bones... I know think this girl can go rock climbing, which a normal girl that never worked out could do an indoor one easily for the day.. this girl would be done half way
she's too heavy to pick her herself
I suppose there’s a big lack of one key topic related to this that’s being mentioned: being metabolically healthy despite a substantially big amount of body fat.
There are a fraction of obese people who have stored a large amount of their fat as subcutaneous fat, which is hardly/not dangerous. Most others though, they tend to store more of their fat as the deeper and more dangerous visceral fat. Maybe these people in the media are trying to refer to those obese people who are metabolically healthy rather than those with more visceral fat? You can be really obese and still have little consequences from being so fat, as long as it is mostly subcutaneous fat (the kind you can see and can jiggle). In these cases, the only shown negative effects of being so fat is being that heavy in the first place. It may only be bad for your joints to carry such a large amount of weight, but that’s it.
100% agree with you. It's time people realize that just because it makes you feel good it doesn't mean that it's true. Just because you tell yourself that it's healthy, it doesn't make it healthy. It's time we stop validating wrong ideals. I'm all for "live your life however you want to", but I'm not okay with
unhealthy propaganda being drilled into the minds of the impressionable youth.
Well said. The whole "body positive" movement just promotes an unhealthy lifestyle, and not to mention, obesity is considered extremely unattractive by the vast majority of both men and women.
Thank you👌🏼
I know sumo wrestlers consume thousands of calories per meal, yet they also do a ridiculous amount of training because they don't want to be a blob. They actually have a surprising amoubt of muscle under the fat. They are trying to be heavyweight champions on the ring that are unstoppable.
I also know quite a few dancers/cast members that do loads of physical activities and eat healthy, but they have a slow metabolism so they find it hard to lose weight. Same goes for those with genuine medical conditions or are on medication.
However most fat people are fat because they don't eat healthily and/or they don't do any exercise.
Or they don't have a consistent eating schedule... I've noticed that I put on weight if I eat infrequently but eat large amounts when I do eat... like one meal a day -since apparently, it puts the body into starvation mode, where the metabolism is slowed right down, and then eating... e. g. a main meal plus dessert... with like, 500ml+ of water/milk/squash.
So yeah, that also causes people to put on weight.
If you’re fat, then you’re fat. I don’t care.
But don’t fucking blame it on other people and telling them to praise you for being a lazy fuck with no self control.
The weight of all the the shit food they eat is going to their brains.
Great mytake!. Completly agree👏👏
I think it was originally meant for people who can’t help their size. For example, my sister has PCOS and she’s been overweight her whole life. She works out and is vegan but still stays at a constant larger size.
The problem is we have obese people who can help their size who are using the movement for themselves.
Either way, if they want to think they’re healthy and it’s okay to be that big, go ahead. It’s not my problem.
Sorry for her... cud u tell us a bit more about that disease?
@24brownish Too lazy to put in my own words completely but here's what google has to say!
A hormonal disorder causing enlarged ovaries with small cysts on the outer edges.
Symptoms include obesity, being overweight or weight gain.
My sister said they can lose weight but it's extremely hard to keep it off. She said if she doesn't workout everyday for at least an hour and/or eats the wrong things for even a day, she gains.
Omg thats tough... i hope she heals n may God give us health. I always used to think my genes dont allow me to gain muscle easily and others were luckier, i suppose hearing anout such diseases makes u thankful for what u have.
@24brownish I'm sure she'd appreciate the well wishes! Thanks!
Welcome
And if she ever feels disheartened, remind her of the many handicapped people and let her know she's lucky she has the ability to workout everyday
@24brownish Too true man.
there is a difference between big, fat and extremely obese, someone can be big or a little chubby and still be beautiful but, extremely obese and trying to justify it as beauty is plain mental illness
Yeah like people these days think you are some sort of a landwhale if you carry 10-15 extra pounds -_-
agreed
it’s just idiotic ignorance, and they are feeding the wrong idea. A 300 pound women will never be as healthy as a women with a fit body, and the same goes for men. I have some people at my school who are with this “movement.” I was fat back then and had friends who are fat, after I got skinnier, all my plus size friends kept telling me how I must really hate myself, and how being plus size is the best way to live. I stopped being friends with them after they told me that.
You should be proud of your progress man. Do girls appear to be more interested in you now?
Well, I think. i don’t know if it’s in my head or not, i see girls looking at me and I can tell some girls seem interested but I dunno.
And also my ex has sometimes stared at me but that’s about it.
No it's real. You're more appealing physically to girls, but you're also more confident, and females pick up on that like radar.
They can do and say whatever they want. Nature will always tell us that obesity to extent displayed in that picture will always be extremely unattractive. You have fetishist, but nothing past that. It’s simply unhealthy and unattractive. So let them scream to society how beautiful they are... maybe they’ll burn some calories in the process lol.
I think when you say they’re fat and it’s bad they take it so personal and that’s why this movement started?
I dislike it cause it’s stupid, that size is unhealthy, and if you’re telling people it’s alright they’ll keep staying unhealthy, I don’t care if they’re fat or not, but if you tell them it’s fine to be that big they’ll stay unhealthy.
What if a girl is thin or average but unhealthy? Maybe she eats too many potatoe chips or smokes or has toxic mental health. Don’t unhealthy people also deserve respect and freedom to live their lives? Many fat people are healthy whereas many thin people are not. I personally was much more unhealthy in a variety of ways when I was thin than when I was a bit bigger. Of course no one is saying to promote morbid obesity but the problem is that thin people’s issues are invisible and ignored while fat people are shamed solely based on looks. If someone doesn’t like fat people they should just say so instead of using health as an excuse. Health is between a person and their doctor period.
She wasn’t using unhealthy as a way to say she didn’t like fat people, she was just saying that it seems the ‘Big is Beautiful’ movement is promoting people to be overweight and it’s not a good idea to get into people’s heads because it’s not a good idea I’m slightly overweight and think people should accept themselves and accept others for who they are but I agree with what she said wether she meant it or not, you’re taking it as she’s she’s saying that fat people are disgusting and that she hates them and others should too, but that’s not what she’s saying she’s concerned about others seeing this movement and thinking it’s okay to let yourself go and become overweight too while in reality it’s a bad idea to do that because it can affect you poorly in the future and create complications with your body
your argument though?
In order to get that fat in 98 percent of cases, one has to eat excess calories. Too much science to prove anyone wrong. The body has NO CHOICE but to worker HARDER to keep a fat person alive. That is like car wear and tear.
Health is more so in terms of what we feed our body AND how much damage it does.
the pressure on your heart and veins is a something we can prove from excess weight Even thin people habits will catch up because the science is there. simple.
So no a fat a person is not healthier only because of the extra mileage they are adding to their body period, You literal can not ignore that. The damage is now showing on the outside.
while I agree health should be between a doctor and the person. Saying who more healthy is like saying I total know that person in and out. But the world did give us a gauge to use so we dont have to run to the doctor every five minutes. and when you have unhealthy "habits" it will "show eventually
But I think people have enough sense to use proven methods. Its just human nature to do so, if I had to pick players on my team I clearly going to go for the thinner person they will be quicker and just basic knowledge.
I never said I don't like fat people, in fact I said many times everybody should be comfortable and have body positivity. But my MyTake was about the big is beautiful movement, and wasn't aimed at thin people whom also have health issues, that's why I didn't feel a need to mention them. But I think it's ridiculous you are trying to say I don't like fat people and are just using health issues as an excuse, because I didn't just make up all these health issues, they are all very real and many obese people are affected by them. If you don't want to face the truth, then don't, but don't you dare say I'm not accepting other people or shaming their looks, when I was saying the exact opposite.
I know some women who are like this and they tried to rip my self esteem limb from limb by telling my friend group that they happen to be in that my weight isn’t where I want it and I want to lose it. They lost their shit and acted like I advocated the extermination of obese people.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PjE2p1xmrNA&list=PL4Qd2bhsXcZnkUybjKTPpNTNkJ3twXkDl&index=90I also have the perfect video for you though. It shows the absurdity of the fat acceptance movement perfectly.
Great take miss, nice to see someone tell it like it is.😉
Thank you haha
From a point-of-view of a big girl, the campaign is sadly misleading. It should send the idea that love who you are now but there is always room for improvement. And the health risks are real as fck. I know im not a saint and I have my lapses in making myself healthier but I know that I should make ways to be health but at the same time loving who I am at the moment.
I agree. Trying to justify a scientifically indefensible lifestyle is unacceptable and loony.