first they said the vaccine will protect you and others indefinitely. now it apparently doesn't protect others at all and barely protects yourself.
then they said it's probably smart to take 2 shots to improve protection. then they said you need a booster every year. then every half year and now they say, that the booster might alredy be completely uneffective after only 3 months. and even then you can still get the disease, still infect others with the exact same probability as if you were not vaccined and you only have a marginally lower risk of having a serious case, that wasn't very high to begin with...
and somehow the unvaccinated are blamed for the infection rates still being so high?None of this makes any sense.what else has to happen untill you finally realize you're being scammed?
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ps: i am not an anti vaxxer. i'm anti snake oil.
How many covid vaccines does it take you to realize, it doesn't work?
The vaccine is not, and never was, intended to stop you catching Covid. It is to reduce the severity of the symptoms, and hopefully stop you dying if you are unlucky enough to catch it. It's damage limitation, not a preventative. I though everyone knew that. Obviously not. Duh...
well you know in this day and age you can really easily go back and see the news from these days and confirm that this is actually exactly what they claimed the vaccine would do in the media. and so many people continue to say this is true even though even the media admitts that it's not...
if it's damage limitation, it's not a vaccine. vaccines make you immune.
also: the chance of dying "to" (not with) covid are extremely low. so low in fact, that the benefit from the vaccine is negligible and the side effects become relevant, if you're under 70.
specially if you consider that they want us to take this jab 4 times a year now, cause it's apparently only effective for 3 months. and with 1 in 5000 people having deadly adverse reactions, this is a very simple numbers game. it's better to just get covid, cause after that, you have a solid immunity for probably at least 2 years.
You are misrepresenting the effectiveness of vaccines, the length of protection and how they work. But, it's your belief system, so who am I to call you out as a liar.
What I'm going to put my trust is is statistically, you will probably become ill sooner not later and die. Then I won't have to listen to your BS anymore, but I will nominate you for a Darwin award.
I knew it was a fraud as they came out. You can't trust anything produced in 6 hours. No way did they test it enough. I think each version of Covid will spread easier and faster , but be less dangerous. Soon it will be no more than a normal cold virus. Then China will send US another mixed bag bio weapon and it will kill millions and then water down like Covid.
I got one to "protect" my mother. But I'm also pretty sure I had covid in December 2019. I know 10 people that currently have it. Of the 10 people, SIX of them are vaccinated.
yeah. i understand that. this was the narrative they told us. you need to show solidarity and protect others... if only they told the truth. luckily, i was never sick in 4 years... so i never really had to protect my family. and if i was sick, i could just distance, cause i live alone and they don't depend on me.
You really have no idea what you are talking about... though that is apparent from reading other posts of yours while calling yourself a so called expert, social scientist, etc.
1. No vaccine has ever been 100% effective, although when enough people are vaccinated it is very difficult for a pathogen to find a host it can infect and therefor can become irrelevant, basically extinct. 2. Viruses are much more difficult to target vaccines against compared to bacteria. Look at the influenza vaccine for example. It is roughly 50% effective (when the targeted strains are correct) in preventing symptomatic illness. The other 50% of vaccinated people who get influenza generally have an attenuated illness (speaking from experience of seeing a large sample size over years as well as studies supporting that assertion. 3. How can you expect the scientists that saw their culmination of decades of research into mRNA vaccines succeed in the nick of time to know the dosing of the vaccine or how long the vaccine would be effective for given the virus only made the jump to humans 2 years ago? And for your information the vaccine was extremely effective in preventing earlier strains of covid-19 4-5 months post vaccination. One study of health care workers showed from last May found the rate of infection among vaccinated to be around 0.02% whereas it was 2-4% in unvaccinated. 4. The delta surge was largely a pandemic of the unvaccinated with very little breakthrough for patients younger than retirement age. 5. Omicron is a different beast, although even one recent study among nursing home residents showed those that were boosted had much lower rates of infection compared to unvaccinated or those who received their vaccines nearly a year ago. 6. If everyone had gotten vaccinated in a timely manner there would be a lot fewer hosts to infect, lower infection rates, and less spread to those who cannot tolerate the virus for whatever reason and suffer more severe disease and less opportunity for the virus to mutate. 7. Your assertion that 1 of 5000 who are vaccinated suffer 'a deadly adverse reaction' is complete bullshit. Please cite. 8. Your assertion that a natural infection with covid will give you immunity for 2 years is also completely an opinion, based on no evidence at all. There is evidence that vaccinated people have a more robust response than those naturally infected (yes, this can be measured). I've seen many people who have had the natural infection more than once at this point. 9. The fact that you have never been sick in 4 years has nothing to do with any of this. Plenty of people go several years without a significant symptomatic viral illness. But given we are exposed to 1 million viruses everyday (pre social distancing, etc) and get sick 2-3 times per year on average throughout our lifetime with some periods being much more concentrated than others. Maybe it is because people can't tolerate being around someone who is so opinionated and spouting misinformation that you do not have the chance to catch the viruses they may have. Many viruses our body fights off quickly before you can confirm you are sick. Others dig their heals in. Eight percent of our DNA is viral over the eons of evolution and to think that viruses don't cause their own harm to humans, likely contributing to chronic diseases through associations we are yet unaware of, not to mention long covid etc, is super misguided. 10. One of the respondents is correct in that you are a liar. Get your shit together. The world has no interest or time in listening to you spout misinformation that you read on the internet and that is clearly on the wrong side of history. Vaccines are not perfect but they are part of the public health measures that have contributed the most to human longevity over the past couple centuries.
Just the first set for me! I tried the first batch, but wouldn’t be willing to get anymore of them or any boosters. That’s because of them not working very well and still being forced to wear a mask, despite being vaccinated m.
Yeah it's funny how they lump those who got the first shot, almost died and consequently reject getting another one in with the anti vaxxers these days.
Statistics tell you the opposite. Of course it's not 100% but everyone knew that before 🤷♀️ even if you still spread it, it greatly decreases the risk of ending up in hospital.
And if everyone would have gotten vaccinated ASAP and also in poorer countries then there would be less mutations. You need a new flu shot every year too, you also don't take that one because it will not work anymore later?
well statistics tell me that i have a roughly 0.2% chance of dying to covid and the vaccine manages to reduce that to apparently 0.04%. big deal. also not really saying much since the sample size they had for that claim is 200 people.
if you think that getting the vaccine slows down mutations, you are out of your mind. actually the CDC and WHO say that vaccines in case of fast evolving viruses with animal reservoires (like influenza and corona) are actually sped up by vaccines, not slowed down.
we're not talking about tetanus, polio or rabies here. i wish more people would educate themself more.
besides. imagine what would happen with polio if the vaccine was only that little effective and only for 3 months. this is ridiculous. calling this a "vaccine" is a hoax.
Health insurance has no money. Of their own. Just like the government. When the government or insurance gives you money, it's them just giving you back some of your own money and then acting all generous about it xD
lol another one of those conspiracy theorists that somehow manages not to ignore the blatantly obvious corrpution that happens completely out in the open for everyone to see :D
Hey it's illegal to bribe politicians so it doesn't happen. They don't need money when pharmaceutical companies pay them 500k a speech once they retire.
yeah it's funny how most western governments health ministers suddenly got huge loads of money in their private bank accounts...
my countries health minister was even so bold to straight up buy himself a villa right after he passed the covid measure laws... and then he sued everyone who spoke publicly about that fact.
I feel like it's more to prevent it from getting worse and getting you killed, not to make you immune to it. Media just loves to exaggerate and make drama
I have immunity from a natural infection, so never needed the shots. But now that I see they're useless and turn the people who get them into sanctimonious assholes, I'm definitely not getting them.
yeah, here they start saying that you need the shot anyway. because allegedly the natural immune system only is good for maximum of 2 years after infection xD which is weird, cause that's way longer than their stupid vaccine.
@genericname85 and also BS. Because you know how many stories there have been about people with natural immunity being spreaders of covid? None. How many stories of reinfection? None. The CDC has no record of any recovered person spreading covid to someone after they've recovered.
They've also just announced that PCR tests can give false positives up to 12 weeks after you've recovered from Covid. So that instantly discredits any study that says reinfection is possible.
well even just the fact that in the beginning they said "oh this is a new disease, our immune systems aren't prepared to handle"... meanwhile 99,9% survival rate... it's just baffeling to me how people still buy the story despite the obvious contradicition with reality.
The "conspiracy theorists" have been right on everything.
1) PCR tests are unreliable 2) The virus came from a lab in China 3) Masks and lockdowns are ineffective 4) These new shots do not prevent the spread of the virus and can cause serious health conditions 5) Asymptomatic spread is not a threat 6) Vaccine cards will lead to vaccine passports which will segregate people from society 7) Governments will get increasingly authoritarian, including locking people in camps.
well to be fair: nobody ever bothered to actually "test" claim number 3. but from the scientific standpoint there was never grounds to reason that they could be effective. in fact we knew they would do more harm than good.
but yeah. all the rest... people would have called you crazy if you told them this is gonna happen 3 years ago.
it's funny that even the cdc said in the beginning, that masks are actually increasing the risk throug reduced hygiene and frequent touching of face and mouth area... that was probably before they realized that the mask are the ultimate symbol to induce a global mass hysteria, that would give them infinite power.
there's one argument my mom always mentions that i agree with. society is sick. we go to work when we're sick. we infect others cause we don't stay at home anymore. this is the one thing that positively changed. but of course we're massively overdoing it now -.-
True, but being around sick people is what keeps our immune system working out. I get what you're saying and for something like Covid -I agree with staying home if you're sick. I did it when I had covid and stayed away from my family.
well there's nuance to this. when someone has a little sniffle, i don't care. but if they have the flu, as in litteral influenza, i'll stay away. i'm not tired of life yet xD
working out your immune system is good. but don't bite off more than you can chew.
