Why would God create schizophrenia and allow this kind of suffering?

[SeekerOfTruth007]

I have been hospitalized a total of 15 or 16 times due to "hearing voices" and out of control circular thoughts from around 2013 through 2020 or so. Each time, I was in the hospital for 2weeks at a time. Now on every occasion but the first 2 times, I actually admitted myself. The first 2 times, the police had to detain me and shoot me with a stun gun, because they couldn't beat me in a fight.

I can tell you, when you get shot with a Stun Gun, you forget what happened in the previous 30 seconds or so. It totally overrides your entire nervous system. I woke up the first time with a Heavyweight police officer on top of me and he was raining down punches on my face. I probably could have kept resisting, but I gave up and let him cuff me. That was after getting shot with the Stun Gun.

Fortunately, eventually somebody put me on Abilify and it stops most of the hearing voices problem and the circular thinking. I am on the max dose though, and my present psychiatrist said nobody really knows what causes this illness or how to really "cure" it. Before Ability, they tried about ten different medications on me and none of them worked.

I apologize for being out of my mind at times. I don't know how to fix it and neither does anyone else.

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I don't know how to explain this, but I definitely had irrational thoughts problems as early as 2004 and maybe even earlier than that. i don't know why this started happening to me and neither do the doctors. I would look for patterns in events that don't rationally related to one another, and couldn't understand why they weren't related. I didn't have this problem in High School, but its possible it started as early as 2000 or 2001.

[ChicoFromThe305]

According to my own understanding of scripture God uses disease as consequence of humanity's rebellion against God but Jesus has healed people from disease in Scripture and stated that Satan keeps people bound, it seems disease is used by both God and the devil, God has used it in just when it comes to civilizations that have become evil to the point the justice needed was for these civilizations to be wiped out, but Satan uses it to poison people and sicken them and keep them sick. You used the proper term, you asked why God would "allow" stuff to happen and that's got complexity. Since God gave us free will, God only allows things to happen because we choose not to involve him in our lives, God gave us the free will to choose and if you choose not to call out to him when sickened by disease then the real question would be why would we allow ourselves to reach a point we prefer to rot in disease than to call out for help and aid to our creator. Since death is also inevitable, God will allow disease to be the cause of death to call you home.

[msc545]

I'm sorry to hear that you have schizophrenia, and I hope you're taking the sort of medication that can control it to some extent. I have a lot of experience working with people who have schizophrenia in the hospital, but of course I don't do this on an outpatient basis. I don't think God is responsible for creating this illness. I think what is responsible are some unfortunate changes in brain chemistry that we don't fully understand and that we can't really alleviate. I have long suspected that this condition is congenital, that is, genetic, but there is a great deal of mixed opinion regarding this among researchers. On a brighter note, there are several new medications that seem to be relatively effective for some people.

[SeekerOfTruth007]

My mother and I have discussed this several times, and we're pretty sure I've inherited something bad from my father's side of the family. My father sometimes had irrational outbursts and was never clincically diagnosed with anything. I don't know why. I also have circumstantial evidence that my father was Type 2 Diabetic, which we now know is somehow genetically linked ot Schizophrenia. If you have one, you are more likely to develop the other later in life anyway.

[msc545]

Chronic insulin resistance and low-grade inflammation are common features of pre-diabetes and Type 2 diabetes, and these factors are also heavily implicated in schizophrenia. Observational research and animal studies suggest that GLP-1 receptors in the brain may have neuroprotective and anti-inflammatory properties that could eventually be targeted for cognitive and mood regulation, but these benefits have not translated to preventing schizophrenia as yet. The possibility is interesting.

[msc545]

I have spent many hours examining people who were confined to a hospital because of their inability to provide for their own food, shelter, or clothing or all three, as a result of being afflicted with schizophrenia. I have also spent a significant amount of time explaining to superior court judges why it is that these people continue to need to be confined to the hospital for their own protection. It was interesting but, in many ways, heartbreaking work, since there was not really much I could do to help these patients. For the most part, all of them took antipsychotic drugs; some of those drugs seem to do a decent job of controlling their symptoms, but the side effects were almost unacceptable in many cases. We do not have a good treatment for schizophrenia, no matter what claims might be made these days. The entire field of mental health is subjected to constant bombardment by scammers who are looking for ways to make money off the kind of suffering that people with schizophrenia and other mental illnesses are enduring. We do the best we can, and often the best we can, as you probably know, falls a bit short, to put it mildly. Still, we are not chaining people to walls in mental hospitals anymore, but we certainly are not letting some of them out on the street anymore either, because it just simply isn't safe for them. I wish we could do better.

[SeekerOfTruth007]

Without the medicine I am paradoxically both helpless and very dangerous at the same time. I really am an elite martial artist, or was before I got sick, and i ttakes 2 or 3 police men in body armor to take me down if I get out of line due to the illness. It has happened one time before where I nearly hurt a family member during one of the worst out of control moments in my life.

I usually just confine myself to my house and don't go out, but I take 30mg of Abilify every day and never miss my medicines. I'ts the only thing that helps. I tried about ten different types of medicines in the past and none of them worked on me.

[msc545]

I understand I have had patients who have had similar experiences with Abilify, and of course, nothing works for everybody. I'm sorry you feel like you have to stay in the house, but I understand why you might feel that way. Please keep taking your medicine because if you do get out of control, particularly around the police, I am afraid that one of them is likely to shoot you. Where I live, here in Los Angeles, I can almost guarantee that if you got really combative with the police and they couldn't control you physically, they would, in fact, just shoot you because that happens here far too often. We have some fairly good mental health programs here in Los Angeles, so if you're ever going to be coming here and you let me know, I can probably arrange to have you seen UCLA or USC, if you wish. We have a lot of research on schizophrenia, particularly at UCLA, and some of those findings and some of those folks might be useful to you in helping you to feel better.

[Anonymous]

It isn't God who creates all the shit going on, it is Satan.

[Levin]

Out of curiosity, and not because I imagine I can help you. What do you do with these voices? Do you believe them?

And have you tried letting God in in those moments?

[SeekerOfTruth007]

I don't know how to describe this problem, but I'll try. I graduated high school with honor and had honors in the JROTC program too. I was supposed to join the Marine Corps, buta childhood medical problem disqualified me from joining. So I went to college, but at college the learning environment is not suitable forhow my brain works. Not everyone learns new things the same way. I passed many courses with an A+, but I also failed several needed courses, so I ended up with 180 credit hours passed, and still didn't qualify for any Degree. I am not lying that I have an IQ of 187 according to the MENSA test. It's actually the second highest score on record, and yet this DISEASE turns my own brain against itself. I cannot think straight to take a test at all, even when I know the material. I can't even pass one fo those personality tests that big chain employers gives you to be hired. I fail them every time, so I have a history of illness and unemployment because of it every time. I've never actually had a job related to anything I went to College for, because none of the employers would give me a chance without the actual paper degree.

In some cases, about ten years ago, the voices kept coming to me and commanding me to murder myself and my entire family and it went on like that all day and especially all night one time. "Kill yourself, kill your mother, kill your sister." like that over and over again.

Why the hell would Ido that, and ho w could that be my own mind? I love my family and would never do that, but that's what happened. It's liek Satan himself was talking to me, and nobody believes that either.

[Ariesman81Nshiiit]

You mentioned this the other day and it got me thinking about if Schizophrenia is actually the ability to see demons and other behind the scenes actors. Just a thought.

[slatyb]

Everything makes so much more sense when you accept that God isn't real.

[exitseven]

God sometimes has a sick sense if humor

[Anonymous]

Consider there is no God

[Tomislav7]

Try solitary confinement in a prison