Do you think men become enslaved after marriage? The opposite is also possible.
Do you think marriage enslaves men?
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in the modern western gynocentric social order, marriage doesn't benefit men except for having kids and even then those kids could potentially not be his or get taken away in divorce by big daddy government.
today many women are settling for a man who isn't their 1st option. unlike men who can learn to love the woman he settled with because he doesn't really care about her money or status or genetics, a woman relies heavily on emotions and needs to be attracted to him for the marriage to even remotely work. this is why a lot of divorces are initiated by women because eventually she gets fed up her husband isn't Channing Tatum or Ryan Gosling or Jason Momoa or Liam Hemsworth etc.
marriage existed primarily to protect women, to give her an unofficial bodyguard who provides physical and financial protection and in exchange she passes on his genes for him to the next generation. divorce however benefits women greatly and divorce judges will often use their subjective bias to punish the man by stripping away his money, his assets, his kids etc.
in the past, there was no marriage and women were happy to share a king, a prince, an emperor, a warlord or any sort of leader with other women as long as he kept all the slaves, peasants, merchants and some soldiers away from them. good genes were passed on and bad genes were weeded out and the total number of historic fathers and historic mothers reflect this but this also why no lineage of historic rulers ever truly last forever as sooner or later the majority of men get fed up and replace him and then it's someone else's turn to be the ruler and the cycle repeats itself.
unsuppressed polygamy and unsuppressed hypergamy has been commonly practiced throughout history and in some parts of the world and we see the disastrous effects of this and the downfall of many societies.
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What else is it designed to do? The opposite is possible but the system here in Western countries are set up to leave only the women with cash and prizes from a failed marriage. The system is what's fucking up the whole institution of marriage. I've seen two fucked up scenarios play out a lot.
1) (this is because military) You marry just for the benefits... like getting to live off base or get extra money (especially overseas). They're not in love at all and it's just a marriage of convenience so they can take advantage of the system.
2) She's nothing on her own... and marrying up equals a ticket out of mommies house and into her own... and then by destroying him she receives a paycheck.
Now true there still are a lot of couples that are working together but I far to often see the male half completely subordinate when he shouldn't be. Like, just because you have a kid together doesn't buy the female half a free ticket to sleep around while he can't even be 5 minutes late from work and has to hand over all the money even though she has a job too. ... with that said, I think, but I don't know for sure... that z generation sort of work together more than whatever has been going on with that melinial generation.
You mean as compared to “does marriage enslave women”? I mean, I know there are some men who do this, but I don’t know of TOO many men who go out and work all day, then come home and cook dinner, clean the dishes, bathe the kids, and get them ready for bed, wash the dishes, make the kids lunch For school the next day, and spend the entire weekend cleaning the house! While the poor “enslaved man“ after working the same or similar hours to the woman, watches football with his friends on the weekend, and expects his wife to “get me another beer”? And has only ONE basic rule “DO NOT F**K ANY OTHER WOMEN”! Now correct me if I’m wrong but of the two of those descriptions, when I compare them to actual slavery. I’m just having the most difficult time deciding which one sounds more like ACTUAL slavery! I mean, I understand how horrible it would be expected to not F**K any other women, but that’s pretty much it for guys. While she is making your food, washing your clothes, bathing your children, putting them to bed, making their lunch, washing the dishes, cleaning your home, and maintaining a 40 hour week work schedule, that sounds a lot more like slavery than simply work 40 hours a week and don’t F**K any other women! My God you guys have it so bad in marriage!
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No, if you look at history it really did benefit you guys a lot. Sure there women who got benefits to like protection and providence if their husband was a good man. However, there where a lot of women that got the short end of the stick if their husband's where cruel. But besides that for men it actually good for them cause it tends to make them live longer and be less lonely. There's a reason why God said men should not be alone. Look at how many men are angry or frustrated about not being to find a mate online.
In fact I just watched a video about how men China are desperately trying to find wife's cause the ratio is completely off due to ine child policy and the favoritism of male children over female ones. It's hitting a lot of them hard. Also there was study about there being more men being on dating apps more than women and men increasingly becoming lonely.
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I have a cousin, woman who I would say got enslaved when she got married. Her husband won't work, she has to work, cook and clean and raise the kids. He is a lazy butt who won't even help out.
She is passive, like her mother so she puts up with it... plus she thinks there is no better option for her.
As for men, I wouldn't say they get enslaved once they get married but if they get divorced, the system enslaves them afterwards, with child support and alimony.
Even if he got the divorce because she was cheating on her. He gets punished and she gets to move on with her life just fine.
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I think it’s important to choose kindness above income and physical beauty because that is the only way you can guarantee a happy marriage. A high status woman who is always screaming and yelling will not make you happy, will not make anybody happy. I also think a lot of selfish women are physically abusive and not just emotionally abusive.
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I'll answer it this way - married men live longer, are generally a bit healthier, and tend to remarry upon divorce.
Yes, there can be talk about the disadvantages and disparities in the court system, with child support, housing, and alimony. However, I've listed some advantages too. So I think it's safe to call it a draw.
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Yes it enslaves STUPID men who don't do their homework, who don't lead, who don't set frame from the beginning and get some red pill knowledge to let them know what the F can happen.
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The results of divorce are very negative for men
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Men who are married significantly outlive single men.
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Marriage doesn't do anything to people; they do it to themselves.
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No, not at all. Marriage to a good woman doesn’t enslave a man at all. It enables him to be a better man and actually give him more capabilities in life. Same thing the other direction. Men and women are meant to be each other’s counterpart and complementary opposite. Meaning they can accomplish more in life and reach the fullness of their potential when they are both together as husband and wife. The horror stories that men hear about with divorced women taking them for all they have is a result of poor judgment usually on both sides. It’s a result of modern society’s selfishness “me” attitude. Good people don’t get divorced. They take marriage serious and they make it work. They both go into it with a level of maturity and with their eyes wide open to reality. But that requires both having that commitment through thick and thin. Getting to the point of realizing that the other is a good person requires thinking from the get-go with your brain, and not the brain between your legs. It requires good judgment to know if the character of the other person in marriage is going to be good. Marriage requires complete selflessness in both directions.
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Of course not, that is such an asinine theory. In the present world, marriage is a choice, whether someone chooses to marry someone they love or not, is up to them. You do realize that slavery is related to exploitation, buying and selling people etc right? How is this even remotely related to marriage?
If we take a quick look at history, it was actually women who were sold and exploited… so technically, marriage in olden days used to enslave women, not men.
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No I think marriage tames men. What’s the point of marriage if it’s not for women to tame the man she is with. If she doesn’t tame the man in which she if with she hasn’t tamed her man, does mean me should be simps men are the leader of the house but women are important.
men and women are good for each other we need each other, Men do stupid shit all the Time, we need a women to convince us to not do our stupid shit. Women need men do i’m stupid straight as well based off of emotion this is why women need men to call them back from their emotions and act reasonably. Men and women are amazing for each other this is why they were separately created. Both men and women have the rules to play in society and it’s good for both men and women for them to play their rules that doesn’t mean women should not vote this does not mean women that should not hold a job does doesn’t mean that there is difference between the sexes and we are both good for each other because of that
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First of all, we need to distinguish between today's marriage and marriage of the past, because they are two very different things. Marriage of the past was beneficial to both men and women, but not so much today. Half of today's marriages end in divorce, women initiate 70% - 80% of them, and men get screwed in divorce court and child custody settlements. This is one of the biggest factors contributing to today's epidemic of middle age male suicide.
There are well known studies that show marriage benefits men and that married men live longer, healthier lives, but it's critically important to note that those studies, by necessity, looked at men who were in old-style marriages. Think about it... to know whether married men live longer you have to look at older men who were married to older women in marriages that had all the benefits of marriages of the past. When studies are done in the future, looking at married men of our generation, the facts will be very different. Marriage is harmful to most men today.
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To be fair I think it´s possible since a woman could turn out evil in terms of being possesive and controlling while wanting to enjoy herself in ways she doesn´t allow him to. So yes it can be an enslavement BUT first of all it´s rare second of all you have a long time to make the choice and it depends also on your mindset because the chance to feel enslaved is way higher when that´s your expectation while entering marriage.
There are so many people that live in happy marriages that I would say there are many chances to avoid such a scenario.
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Keep in mind that the west is a gynocracy. Once you leave the western bubble it's clear to see.
A man works all day, 12 hours shifts for an employer that thinks up ways to pay him less, while his woman sits in the castle and collects his earnings when he gets home. She raises the kids *his legacy* to her rules and standards (and by raise I mean takes them to and from school).
It's a form of pimping men. Most men in the west seem pretty happy with this setup. God bless them, not for me... Not in the west world anyway.
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DoctorSex
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Not at all. The only thing that can enslave men is themselves (and sometimes other men). Marriage can actually liberate men in many cases. The problem is that our society encourages men to be pathetic, so when men consent to that idea they end up enslaved in some marriages. But a man sticks to what he knows is right for him and those around him, no enslavement for anyone will happen, not even his wife, which is great since marriage has historically been worse for women in certain countries. Plenty of exceptions though!
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If you feel enslaved after a marriage, you got in the wrong marriage pal.
A marriage is a commitment to someone that isn’t easily redacted, it is a show of love and not possession.
Marriage is an important promise to one another, made with intent and integrity. To stand by vows and to hold your love close.
Love is about care and emotion, not possession. To even think of marriage as enslavement is a horrid way of looking at a grand romantic gesture.
That being said, yes (sorta) if they run into it without realizing what that commitment means. It’s a grand gesture they don’t want to uphold, and they often feel obligated to keep the ruse going even if neither of them is happy, only perpetuating a cycle until one of them gets fed up and explodes or somebody admits that they screwed up. I say that because I’ve seen what digging your heels in because you didn’t want to admit you’re wrong looks like. But stupid games win stupid prizes, my friend, and this is one of them. -
It’s a bad contract. Government should get out of the marriage business. If people want to be married by their religious institution then they should do that on their own. If they want to break up, then they should do that on their own. If you have title to a piece of property it should be yours and no court should should award anything to anyone in divorce. There should be no divorce court. The state shouldn't be involved in religious ceremonies… Child custody should be joint. No child support should exist. When the kid is with you, you take care of them. When they are with your ex, they care of them. No marriage license (tax) should exists. No special taxation (joint filing) should exist. Government needs to stop meddling in people's religious affairs especially when it impacts their family/children.
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Its a slave from choise and its very best meaning, not one assusiated with terrible stuff
Inslavement is normally refering to the rest of it, the lose of freedom, many times not from choise but by being fourced to it
Margie is a slavement in a way, for both sides that enslave them self to a contract they both agree with, that takes away some of there freedom, to show dedication and love, as any prise as any contract it has its down but its benfits to both party as well
Its a slavement to (hopfully) be more happy, be more secure, and connect with one you pick more then any else
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No it enslaves women 🙄
I was being facetious!
it only enslaves a person who feels like it's slavery and if that's how they see marriage then it's not for them and they should stay the hell out of it!
Marriage is only for the strong and for the flexible and for those who are compassionate loving and reasonable and obviously for people who don't see it as slavery or enslavement lol 😆
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Historical marriage 1960 and before had serious both spiritual, mental and physical meaning behind it. It absolutely did NOT enslave men, in fact, it brought freedom to both men and women.
Modern marriage on the other hand 2022 and beyond, ABSOLUTELY! It Does.
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Well with the way the laws are written when it comes to alimony, child support and who gets custody of children it definitely can.
But marriage itself is actually a good thing. It reinforces accountability and responsibility. It can improve and mature people.
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