It's because guys talk a lot about here on this site. Just do done research, your own independent research and draw your opinion from there. Youtube offers tons of history on feminism.
The main focus was to give women rights so they can vote, work, earn land, have bank accounts, earn an education, and not be mistreated cause they were female. That's the basics, today it's taken a rather strange twist. Like every movement, you will get extremists that are often very loud and controversial. Because of this they end up becoming the face of the movement which in turn will give it a bad reputation. The extremists usually say off the wall stuff like kill men or that they hate men, it's pretty much the fallen version of misogyny that's called misandry.
Fyi. No one had the right to vote except property owners. Later, men got the right but they had to register for selective service. 2. You could argue, i dont but you could, that getting an education is the reason the birth rate is below replacement rates atm. 3. Girls are more mistreated than ever before. More girls than ever have been traumatized by players and cheaters. Cus more girls than ever are playing with fire
@RandomGuy1032 it still doesn't change the fact that men had first dibs on owning land. 2. There's multiple reasons for low birth rates then just feminism. The cost of living is hitting everyone hard across the globe, in some areas its rougher. Because of this men and women are holding back on starting families because they don't have the time, energy or expenses to raise a family at the moment. Also there are men who don't want to have kids or get married regardless of their education status. 3. Men have been cheating for centuries, just take a look history and how men wanted or had multiple wife's or concubines. This comes from a lack of self control and greed. A woman being a baddie or knowing how to throw down in bedroom/kitchen will not keep an unfaithful man or a man that lies. There's plenty of good men and women who still got betrayed. So what your saying is nonsense.
1. land owned back then was fought and bled for in wars. 2. Feminism isn't the only reason women aren't having kids but have you considered the fact there are half as many jobs for men than before feminism. Meaning women have to work now to get by. It isn't an option. Which means if they do have kids, theyll be going straight to daycare. Most women are logical enough to realize how retarded that is. And simply dont have any kids at all. 3. The stats are showing women cheat more than men
Also please tell me why women are voting? Their votes have consequences. Like wars. And if we do get in a war THEY DONT HAVE TO GO. See how fucked that is? If you dont want to face the consequences of your votes, dont vote.
@RandomGuy1032 1. Do you really want to go into war just to own land? I don't think so. 2. There are still women who are stay at home moms, two my coworkers left to raise their baby, there are plenty of women who will put their career aside to raise family if they can. Also are you serious? Wars have been happening since the dawn if time, anyone's vote can cause and start a war and most wars have often been started by who? You get it MEN. A lot times it didn't have crap all to do with voting and just wanting to dominate and take other men's land and women. Again read history. And yes women where forced against their will to marry men they didn't want to or were raped.. history. like cmon dude you have no idea what you talking about.
@BlueScorpio do you think most guys are to trust YouTube videos about feminism? YouTube and many other media channels are censoring and muting out dissenting opinions to the leftist status quo.
That’s not to say some differing opinions do not exist still. But I don’t trust YouTube the same way I would of trusted it in 2015.
@BlueScorpio “It still doesn't change the fact that men had first dibs on owning land.”
Are you fucking kidding me? Who crossed an ocean, explored unknown lands, fought with the natives, waged wars, and carved out that piece of land with blood and iron?
Their names weren’t Sally or Martha or Mary. They were men who took that land by force. Brute force. Because that’s how land gets taken. Then you die and leave it to your heirs. Just like the people you took it from did.
"The cost of living is hitting everyone hard across the globe, in some areas its rougher."
Do you think the cost of living is more when two people come together and live in one place and share the bills, or when they remain single and have to pay for two separate places and two separate sets of bills?
Feminism has absolutely directly increased the cost of living. It's also reduced wages significantly by diluting the labor pool. Think about it on a small scale: if only men work outside the house, and you have 10 families, you have 10 potential workers. If you have 600 hours of work that has to be done, then you're going to have to pay these workers really well, or they won't work 60 hours a week for you. But now if women work too, you have 20 potential workers. Now you can hire all 20, and make them all "part-time" workers, which means you don't need to give them benefits, pay them overtime, or even pay a high wage. You work them all 30 hours a week, your payroll costs are reduced as much as 50% (benefits and overtime pay adds up quickly!), and the company wins. How did the workers fare? You now have both the man and the woman working outside the home, for less total pay then the man was bringing home by himself before, and with no benefits, since they're both part-time workers, so now they have to pay for their own health insurance, they get no pension or 401K matching, etc. Likely less home-cooked meals (cheaper and healthier) because you're more likely to eat out, and clothing costs likely go up. All in all, the families lose at every turn, and the companies win.
Many of the wealthiest industrialists of the early 20th Century supported feminism, with the goal of doing exactly this: increasing the pool of available workers which would drive down the total cost of labor. It took 30 years longer to happen, but that goal was definitely accomplished.
@MrOracle I doubt it America is capitalist. Even if all the women did stop working, you really think all the ceos and corporations are going to go back to the old times when they use to recognize a workers hard work and gave them fair raises ( lets be real, not all of them did anyway) ? Hell no. Those type of ceos and bosses are dead and gone and have been replaced by greedy sharks. They are making a killing, they don't care who's working or not, the goal is to make profit and stay making profit by keeping everyone on low wages. Also again, look at history, there have always been broke, poor, impoverished families despite the husband being the main bread winner. Throughout history, whenever money hot involved someone has always hoarded it at the top while the small people suffered at the bottom. They did not care if you where man or woman and it's the same today.
And, yet, the levels of wealth inequality began to explode in the late 60s, and really accelerated in the 80s, when the first generation of women who were born into Feminism hit the work force. That's not a coincidence!
The fight for gender equality - in a legal and social sense. There are many different feminist movements with different ideas, different goals and different strategies. Like with any big movement, there's some bad ideas and bad implementations. But the vast majority of feminist activism out there (the ones you rarely ever hear about, since the focus is always on the loud crazy ones) is not only good, but actually crucial to our society improving.
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One of many forms of situational control. Something to get people talking and invested and above all devided.
Another false movement for a non existent cause that feels very vivid in the mind of the mindless
Yea no it isn't. All movements for equality are movements to humiliate and bring down the ruling class. Its communism. y'all are the reason white men can't even get jobs as airline pilots. Even when white men are the best suited for the job
Feminism is essentially empowering women to think, do and be for themselves. It’s essence is obviously good. But as with most things people put their greedy little hands on, it’s not what it should be and that’s bad.
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What is feminism? It depends on whether you want to use the dictionary definition, which is meaningless today, or the actions and behavior of actual feminists today, which is really all that matters. Using the latter definition, feminism is a toxic, divisive, victim minded group of "women" who want to be respected without having to be respectable like everyone else.
Many so-called feminists conflate Feminism with Womanism, which they actually are. I can understand some of the aspects of Feminism but Womanism is the toxic parts that muddy the waters and ruin the overall message.
Oh, you sweet summer child. Feminism has zero to do with equal rights. Someone wanting equal rights is an Egalitarian - and Feminists HATE being referred to as Egalitarians, because they are definitely NOT that. Egalitarians would have to fight for both women's AND men's rights - and Feminists have zero intention of ever advocating for men in any way.
No, they want MORE rights than men, and much less responsibility. Women have had equal rights for 40 years - and never stopped pushing for more more more.
Corrupted form of communism, replace workers party with gender. All the isms are linked & they all have the effect of corruption. Feminism is corrupting the biology we've evolved into for millions of years.
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It's an ideal and means different things to different women.
Too many people confuse it with "misandry" when in fact it is not. Though some feminists can be misandrist.
Belief in or advocacy of women's social, political, and economic rights, especially with regard to equality of the sexes.
Can you explain more?
I really don't understand word is positive or negative
It's because guys talk a lot about here on this site. Just do done research, your own independent research and draw your opinion from there. Youtube offers tons of history on feminism.
The main focus was to give women rights so they can vote, work, earn land, have bank accounts, earn an education, and not be mistreated cause they were female. That's the basics, today it's taken a rather strange twist. Like every movement, you will get extremists that are often very loud and controversial. Because of this they end up becoming the face of the movement which in turn will give it a bad reputation. The extremists usually say off the wall stuff like kill men or that they hate men, it's pretty much the fallen version of misogyny that's called misandry.
Fyi. No one had the right to vote except property owners. Later, men got the right but they had to register for selective service. 2. You could argue, i dont but you could, that getting an education is the reason the birth rate is below replacement rates atm. 3. Girls are more mistreated than ever before. More girls than ever have been traumatized by players and cheaters. Cus more girls than ever are playing with fire
@RandomGuy1032 it still doesn't change the fact that men had first dibs on owning land. 2. There's multiple reasons for low birth rates then just feminism. The cost of living is hitting everyone hard across the globe, in some areas its rougher. Because of this men and women are holding back on starting families because they don't have the time, energy or expenses to raise a family at the moment. Also there are men who don't want to have kids or get married regardless of their education status. 3. Men have been cheating for centuries, just take a look history and how men wanted or had multiple wife's or concubines. This comes from a lack of self control and greed. A woman being a baddie or knowing how to throw down in bedroom/kitchen will not keep an unfaithful man or a man that lies. There's plenty of good men and women who still got betrayed. So what your saying is nonsense.
1. land owned back then was fought and bled for in wars. 2. Feminism isn't the only reason women aren't having kids but have you considered the fact there are half as many jobs for men than before feminism. Meaning women have to work now to get by. It isn't an option. Which means if they do have kids, theyll be going straight to daycare. Most women are logical enough to realize how retarded that is. And simply dont have any kids at all. 3. The stats are showing women cheat more than men
3. And that system of concubines was female initiated. No one forced women to all have sex with the same man
Also please tell me why women are voting? Their votes have consequences. Like wars. And if we do get in a war THEY DONT HAVE TO GO. See how fucked that is? If you dont want to face the consequences of your votes, dont vote.
@RandomGuy1032 1. Do you really want to go into war just to own land? I don't think so.
2. There are still women who are stay at home moms, two my coworkers left to raise their baby, there are plenty of women who will put their career aside to raise family if they can.
Also are you serious? Wars have been happening since the dawn if time, anyone's vote can cause and start a war and most wars have often been started by who? You get it MEN. A lot times it didn't have crap all to do with voting and just wanting to dominate and take other men's land and women. Again read history. And yes women where forced against their will to marry men they didn't want to or were raped.. history. like cmon dude you have no idea what you talking about.
Wars start because of a bad economy which is what female voters have caused in america by electing biden.
@BlueScorpio do you think most guys are to trust YouTube videos about feminism? YouTube and many other media channels are censoring and muting out dissenting opinions to the leftist status quo.
That’s not to say some differing opinions do not exist still. But I don’t trust YouTube the same way I would of trusted it in 2015.
@BlueScorpio “It still doesn't change the fact that men had first dibs on owning land.”
Are you fucking kidding me? Who crossed an ocean, explored unknown lands, fought with the natives, waged wars, and carved out that piece of land with blood and iron?
Their names weren’t Sally or Martha or Mary. They were men who took that land by force. Brute force. Because that’s how land gets taken. Then you die and leave it to your heirs. Just like the people you took it from did.
"The cost of living is hitting everyone hard across the globe, in some areas its rougher."
Do you think the cost of living is more when two people come together and live in one place and share the bills, or when they remain single and have to pay for two separate places and two separate sets of bills?
Feminism has absolutely directly increased the cost of living. It's also reduced wages significantly by diluting the labor pool. Think about it on a small scale: if only men work outside the house, and you have 10 families, you have 10 potential workers. If you have 600 hours of work that has to be done, then you're going to have to pay these workers really well, or they won't work 60 hours a week for you. But now if women work too, you have 20 potential workers. Now you can hire all 20, and make them all "part-time" workers, which means you don't need to give them benefits, pay them overtime, or even pay a high wage. You work them all 30 hours a week, your payroll costs are reduced as much as 50% (benefits and overtime pay adds up quickly!), and the company wins. How did the workers fare? You now have both the man and the woman working outside the home, for less total pay then the man was bringing home by himself before, and with no benefits, since they're both part-time workers, so now they have to pay for their own health insurance, they get no pension or 401K matching, etc. Likely less home-cooked meals (cheaper and healthier) because you're more likely to eat out, and clothing costs likely go up. All in all, the families lose at every turn, and the companies win.
Many of the wealthiest industrialists of the early 20th Century supported feminism, with the goal of doing exactly this: increasing the pool of available workers which would drive down the total cost of labor. It took 30 years longer to happen, but that goal was definitely accomplished.
@MrOracle I doubt it America is capitalist. Even if all the women did stop working, you really think all the ceos and corporations are going to go back to the old times when they use to recognize a workers hard work and gave them fair raises ( lets be real, not all of them did anyway) ? Hell no. Those type of ceos and bosses are dead and gone and have been replaced by greedy sharks. They are making a killing, they don't care who's working or not, the goal is to make profit and stay making profit by keeping everyone on low wages. Also again, look at history, there have always been broke, poor, impoverished families despite the husband being the main bread winner. Throughout history, whenever money hot involved someone has always hoarded it at the top while the small people suffered at the bottom. They did not care if you where man or woman and it's the same today.
And, yet, the levels of wealth inequality began to explode in the late 60s, and really accelerated in the 80s, when the first generation of women who were born into Feminism hit the work force. That's not a coincidence!
The fight for gender equality - in a legal and social sense. There are many different feminist movements with different ideas, different goals and different strategies. Like with any big movement, there's some bad ideas and bad implementations. But the vast majority of feminist activism out there (the ones you rarely ever hear about, since the focus is always on the loud crazy ones) is not only good, but actually crucial to our society improving.
One of many forms of situational control.
Something to get people talking and invested and above all devided.
Another false movement for a non existent cause that feels very vivid in the mind of the mindless
If u use in a right thing then that's positive.
Feminism means to treat women and men equally
I agree with you
And if i say masculinism is about equality?
Yea no it isn't. All movements for equality are movements to humiliate and bring down the ruling class. Its communism. y'all are the reason white men can't even get jobs as airline pilots. Even when white men are the best suited for the job
And u wonder why white guys like Asian girls better.
Feminism is essentially empowering women to think, do and be for themselves. It’s essence is obviously good. But as with most things people put their greedy little hands on, it’s not what it should be and that’s bad.
What is feminism? It depends on whether you want to use the dictionary definition, which is meaningless today, or the actions and behavior of actual feminists today, which is really all that matters. Using the latter definition, feminism is a toxic, divisive, victim minded group of "women" who want to be respected without having to be respectable like everyone else.
Wanting all the benefits of being a man without the cons
hating men yet wanting to be just like them
making a woman’s rights top priority over everything and everyone else
The same treatment whether it's a girl or a guy. Which isn't always possible.
Most women aren’t interested in feminism, that’s the beauty of it🤣🤣🤣
Many so-called feminists conflate Feminism with Womanism, which they actually are. I can understand some of the aspects of Feminism but Womanism is the toxic parts that muddy the waters and ruin the overall message.
You can't really answer this, because there are many versions of feminism. There's even Christian Feminism.
A person who believes in the equal rights. Simple
Oh, you sweet summer child. Feminism has zero to do with equal rights. Someone wanting equal rights is an Egalitarian - and Feminists HATE being referred to as Egalitarians, because they are definitely NOT that. Egalitarians would have to fight for both women's AND men's rights - and Feminists have zero intention of ever advocating for men in any way.
@MrOracle feminism women want equal rights as men
No, they want MORE rights than men, and much less responsibility. Women have had equal rights for 40 years - and never stopped pushing for more more more.
Today? A man hating machine, which only purpose is to identify anything that can hurt men and push it to the extreme.
It was supposed to be something for equality at some point, but I guess that was lost on the way.
Corrupted form of communism, replace workers party with gender. All the isms are linked & they all have the effect of corruption. Feminism is corrupting the biology we've evolved into for millions of years.
In the West? Privilged women crying about being oppressed
Women don't actually want "equality",
Gender equality, as long as they're not man hating. Its a positive thing.
Women's rights and equality in society at least originality that was is for.