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Chivalry was a code of conduct for knights (which you can think of as "military leaders", since they served a similar purpose as military officers do in a modern military, though they also had some duties that we'd relate more to police today) and how they interact with the general population.
Chivalry was an acknowledgement that women and children were utterly defenseless in the face of a knight, and needed to be protected, because they represented the future of society. On the other hand, chivalry also meant that people followed and respected the leadership of the knights. In other words, it was a two-way street.
In modern times, women are much less often in need of physical protection, and most are far less respectful of chivalrous men (many are actively hostile towards them), so men have adjusted and become much less chivalrous.
I personally have been berated by women a couple of times for chivalrous acts, and lots of men I know have been as well. To be fair, more women have been appreciative, but those radical feminists are incredibly hostile, loud, and extremely public in their attacks on men, and this can in some cases lead to those men being assaulted by others or even charged with crimes, so it's not hard to understand why lots of men don't do those things anymore.
It used to make sense once upon a time, but it is a very poor fit for the modern age.
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I'm a lot older than you. Doing things was never about trying to get her to care. Not for most guys. More like it was part of you and it was expected. Just like you're expected to wear clothing when walking down the street. BUT it was really only required when dealing with a lady. When dealing with a rabid animal or man hater it was never required. It's just that in the old days, like 99.9% of women were either traditional or smart enough to pretend to be traditional. Society valued the traditional stuff.
Now it's flipped (society no longer valuing traditional stuff as much) and most women aren't traditional at all so traditional minded guys are not obligated to treat them like ladies. He's safe to assume that the random woman he runs into isn't a lady. It's on her to prove otherwise.
Guys never should have put women above themselves... looking back on the old days, I think it was more like the guy showed respect for ladies in general. The lady he was next to was a representation of all ladies. It wasn't simply about her. And she was responsible for keeping up the positive image/idea of what a lady was supposed to be. There was the idea that we did things not simply for ourselves but for society in general. For example, if a family member dies you have a funeral/memorial, not for them or for yourself but at the very least to teach the younger generation that the tradition matters. So it's for larger reasons. Most people don't think of this stuff tho. Maybe that's why western society is in rapid decline now.
Let's unpack a few things here, CCD.
* First, you're angry af, which makes me think "how did she hurt you and why aren't you over it".
* Next, you're confusing entitlement with, in certain situations, common sense, courtesy and/or safety. If you see a woman carrying groceries and a bag breaks, spilling her purchases in the parking lot, do you walk past and think, or even say, "You should have thought about that and double bagged it lady. Then you wouldn't be on your knees in the parking lot looking entitled to my help"? That might be you?
* Last but not least. Chivalry was a medieval code for knights. What it has come to mean is "EXCESSIVE and preferential courtesy towards women", but what's excessive to you might be nowhere near excessive to me. You may also be that guy who thinks that being courteous to anyone in general is feeding an entitlement syndrome.
So, here's my unsolicited life opinion: when you're courteous, kind, thoughtful, or helpful to anyone, including strangers, you're not putting yourself below them. That's a ridiculous concept, in my opinion.
It is obvious that you do not know what "chivalrous" means I've put a copy of the code below;
The Code of Chivalry
To live ones life so that it is worthy of respect and honourably:
Fair Play
Never Attack an Unarmed Foe, Never Charge an Unhorsed Opponent, Never Attack from Behind. Avoid Cheating, Avoid Torture,
Nobility
Exhibit Self Discipline, Show Respect to Authority, Obey the Law, Administer Justice, Protect the Innocent, Respect Women,
Valour
Exhibit Courage in Word and Deed, Avenge the Wronged, Defend the Weak and Innocent, Fight with Honour, Ever Abandon a Friend, Ally, or Noble Cause,
Honour
Always Keep Your Word, Always Maintain One’s Principals, Never Betray a Confidence or a Comrade, Avoid Deception, Respect Life,
Courtesy
Exhibit Manners, Be Polite and Attentive, Be Respectful of Host, Authority, and Women,
Loyalty
To God, Sovereign, Country, and the Code of Chivalry.
Well when another guy tries it on with your girl, you can let her sort it out.
For me it’s my girl, I will sort it.
As for walking on the pavement, I tend to have her away from the road as she has a bag, those are prime targets for snatch thieves.
Anyhow, you can keep letting girls fight their own battles.
He is putting himself closer to my heart. 💘
No. Quite the opposite. He is being manly, protective, considerate, and treating her like a delicate lady. The lady-gentleman thing is a game that men and women play. It makes men feel more masculine and women feel more feminine.
People who don't get it are insecure, bitter toward the opposite sex, and don't understand romance or male-female dynamics. It's all about mutual respect.
Of course, a man can go overboard to the point of simping or being condescending.
So when I am being chivalrous does that mean I am putting myself below men? Is that how people see it? I am very confused because I had no idea. I didn't think people would see it like that.
What do you think a wife does? She puts him above herself and basically becomes his in home slave, so in dating he should treat her good. By the way if that is your cat in the picture he is very cute. Stop being so toxic towards women it is unbecoming :P
Nope.
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