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Why So Many Men Hate Women, And How Psychology Explains It (Page 2)
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okay. But what if no matter how hard or how many times you've tried, you always get rejected? Even used for an ego boost or just to get you to do stuff for her? And no, I'm not a nice guy who does things and thinks you should like me because of it. I would be such a great husband and father if they would just give me a chance! I've asked my female friends and even the women who rejected me what's wrong with me. But they all say the same thing. "You're great and nice. Just not my type." So now I know I'm ugly I mean, what else could it be? Or are women just not willing to lower their expectations when it comes to looks? Making women more shallow then men? I see plenty of men with fat ugly girls. Never do you see a girl with an ugly or fat guy. So that's why I lose myself in a fake world. It's the only thing stopping me from killing myself. So do I have a hate towards women? Sure. Who wouldn't when you've been toyed with and rejected so many times? It's called human emotions. I'm allowed to feel them.
That's true but in the end women are humans too and if they don't like they don't like you. I've never dated a women who I wasn't physically attracted to. So I feel for you but it is what it is. I truly think prostitution should be legal so guys can get it without all the headaches. But for some really stupid reasons it's not. Just like marijuana is still illegal in like 40 something states. Cmon America.
@LiveFreeorDieHard If the government can't make money off of it, they make it illegal. If people didn't know how to make cocaine, the government would be selling it as a energy powder or something.
People who heavily rely on technology are negatively shaping our generation and our society. You shouldn't blame the platform but rather blame the users of the platform. Sure, the platform presents opportunities but who seizes those opportunities? People.
Men don't hate women. Men who want women yet flop in having one hate the absence of women in their lives. When you don't have something, you hate the "absence" of that thing. You still love the thing to be yours and you'll find ways to make it yours but you'll be pissed off when reality strikes you that the thing you want isn't yours at the moment. That is when perseverance would play a vital role.
Well put! Also I think it's part of people rejecting the dishonest press, without thinking rationally that some of what the press teaches is good.
Rejecting the "dishonest press"? I actually find that interesting yet I fear that. Instilling a negative image in the minds of the masses about media will surely ignite the skepticism of the meticulous people. Some people take it too far and below-the-belt, hence resulting to an outright disbelief with everything they hear.
Contrastly, I think the opposite happens quite frequently wherein people actually exhibit gullibility in falling for news that are directed in the fulfillment of propaganda.
the stranglehold politicians can get over the press is disturbing. Like how they tried I cover up Wikileaks, they covered up that most the violence at Bernie and Trump rallies were people payed by the DNC to fight each other... They covered up the fact Bernie won California 2 votes to 1, only to have his votes literally thrown away.
The press won't report danger unless they're payed to. The thought that so many people rely on such an unreliable source is disturbing
I see. That's truly disheartening to hear. What a cruel world we live in :(
Don't worry, the truth is still within our reach! Just do your research, the truth won't come to you anymore, but you can still find it if you're looking!
@Unimaginative2 True! Look for original sources and evidence. I also like to find sites from opposite political spectrum, so they're less likely to both lie about the subject.
Uh, actually, I think you have it backwards - it's third wave feminism that blames men for all of society's ills, everything that is wrong today, everything that happens to them is because they are a victim of men.
So we have these memes, like 'strong independent', and 'you go gurlll'. Or 'we don't need no stinkin' men'. Yeah, it's the women that are vocal about truly hating men. Didn't we hear recently that all men should be killed? And we are now raising a generation or two of boys without dads. I can be a dad to them too!
Time for you to go back to the drawing board.
Let me ask you something. If most women felt invisible to guys, never got approached, saw that guys only went for the top 20% of girls who looked like models, and there was a decades-old men's movement which placed men's rights above all others while demonizing women, would women react any better?
While I don't support these modern men's movements, they could be seen as a long overdue reaction to the excesses of feminism. They're really the male equivalent of feminism, and if feminists don't like them, it's because they are getting a taste of their own medicine. However, two wrongs don't make a right. No gender, race, religion or age group should be on the receiving end of that kind of hate. It just breeds more hate. So if the seeds sown by modern feminism are coming up MGTOW, that's hardly surprising. Eventually people come to hate those who hate them -- even if those people are women.
Here's a question for you.
In the days before legal abortion and the contraceptive pill and social acceptance of single motherhood, almost all women were on strike against pre-marital, or at least pre-engagement, sex. Therefore, did almost all women hate men?
This question doesn't make any sense to me.
@HungLikeAHorsefly She's saying that MGTOW hate women. I'm asking, therefore, whether WGTOW (almost all women until the 1960s) hated men.
Eh, I don't think I would categorize a Christian women's suffrage movement in the early 1900's as WGOTW. Even if it were, the linkage between that group and what the OP is talking about is weak at best.
Sorry, not "early" - early to mid 1900's.
@HungLikeAHorsefly I wasn't talking about the women's suffrage movement.
The women's suffrage movement was formed out of a group of women that got together to protest the lack of women's status in society (and inability to vote). A major plank in their platform was no sex before marriage, and to deny their husbands sex until they got support for the movement. So, I thought you were talking about that.
If you weren't talking about that, then I assume you mean just general Christian women, or women for whom their societal expectations were formed by Christian women. Do Christian women hate men?
@HungLikeAHorsefly "In the days before legal abortion and the contraceptive pill and social acceptance of single motherhood, almost all women were on strike against pre-marital, or at least pre-engagement, sex. Therefore, did almost all women hate men?"
Okay, point taken. I assumed you meant a specific social group rather than *all women*, because that would be dumb. My bad.
@HungLikeAHorsefly Actually women suffragettes fought for middle class white women's right to vote and no one elses. Thats why sojourner truth made her "aint I a woman" speech calling out the suffragettes (modern day feminist) for their racism. As for their lack of status, that too is incorrect as men for most of history did not have the right to vote only getting it in america 67 years before women did (since they where conscripted against their will, something that is still a legal requirement for citizenship/voting for men, oddly not so for women who are the ones supposedly "oppressed"). In fact what prevented women from voting was women arguing against it as they didn't want the same responsibilities that men had in order to earn that privilege.
It is what it is... to whom it may concern , but you women who bash guys for being guys , then what in return do you really expect and to label them to boot with (coward) while all the more , your the coward for anon posting. In other words , the guys you're talking about... you females who hate on males , then turn around and say thier hating on you... becomes a double standard once again. So do men hate women? Or do women constantly hate men and turn the blame on the guys for reacting to what thier presented with in the first place? Now why should the guys conform to a hateful bunch of females who literally are in thier homes , on thier computers , playing keyboard warrior and saying guys are basement dwellers when most all women are in the basements themselfs. I find it funny that most women are full of talk and nothing else in the flesh.
"When you don't have something, hate something"
"Women never date nice guys, I hate those bitches"
"Hating women is the easy way out"
It doesn't seem like you did much reading at all if all you can come up with generic, circlejerking bs you see all the time on sites like this. If I've been shitting all day, I don't need a doctor to tell me I have diarhea. I could have come up with those myself from reading what some of the girls say on this site alone. I mean, it can't POSSIBLY be that guys are just sick of women acting like entitled princess and therefore don't consider them worth it. It must be that they "never learned basic interaction skills".
the same* generic, circlejerking bs
YOU people do realize she only talking about men who hate women not normal Joes? Jesus people are stupid or too lazy to read.
Heh, the average Joe :P
Sure thing!
People are WAY too lazy to read. It's terrible.
@SovereignessofVamps Their responses just prove it. You can't take them serious.
@Unit1 IKR
In america, calling someone sexist is a very common political tactic, which has resulted in many men and women not recognizing when real sexism is present.
Those who have very little social interaction tend to think the media represents the majority, causing them to become defensive of their gender/race.
I believe this has been a primary factor in the increased levels of sexism and racism here.
@E-Nigma True that. I also made the same observations. What goes on internet does not match on the outside world.
Yeah I totally agree with you. Only pathetic geeks who can't get laid hate women because he actually wants us yet can't make us want them.
Either that, or the world's society is so used to make dominance and women being oppressed, that now when we finally stand up for ourselves and refuse to be controlled by males, they don't like it and can't deal with it so they hate modern women
you know what makes us men hate you women so much is you're damn entitlement to think you need every damn thing from us men and don't want to work hard enough to get it you're damn self
@CancerianMan81 aaand my point is proven. Bitter unfucked losers on gag. So many of them
@CancerianMan81 How have women not worked hard to get anything in life? Do you realize that women had to fight to even be able to be recognized as people?
@Darkfairie17 why even bother to take him seriously? He's a grown ass man who believes in zodiacs. His cover picture is the kind that I would put up as a profile pic or cover pic when I was 15. That shows how his mental. maturity is
At 28 it might be time to grow out of your victim cocoon.
As a geek myself, who can't get laid I am offended.
Yet I do not hate women at all.
@roamer who says I'm a victim?
@Centurion20000 so we're different. Gee, that's big news to me. Do you have a point?
@CancerianMan81 bla bla bla. I get laid on a regular basis dude. Quit being bitter
Why else all the hate you spew with each keystroke?
@TheDevilInside I already told you... you ain't fitting me into you're damn box cause I'm not the victim here
I don't play victim hood to get what I want
I get what I want by working for it and if I screw up big deal that doesn't make me less of a person and that doesn't make me better than anybody either but at least I can accept that part of me unlike most people I know
and by the way you're information is seriously lacking cause what you're saying about me isn't really true it's just a bunch of lies
another thing is I can see that you are being a narcissist you can really spot you narcissists a mile away
LMAO!!! it's funny that you're words don't hurt me but my words sure in the hell bother you cause other wise you wouldn't have reported my words for what I said someone is obviously "TRIGGERED".
how childish
and then women wonder why they can't find any good men
@CancerianMan81 oh but you are. You are ne of those whiny losers on gag. I can put you into whatever box I want and there's nothing you can do about it
@CancerianMan81 bla... bla... bla... Get over it. I'm childish? Lol who is the one who believes in fuckig astrology? Bye, loser child
@TheDevilInside Lmao you know when a guy texts you 7 times to your 1 ... so cringe rite :P
@Cosytoasty i Know... wonder why he can't get laid? Well, you just got the answer. Lol
noone oppresses you. you live in a bubble. a deception. you know nothing about men or humanity. confused, angry, toxic and intolerant women like you, distance men from women.
@levantine99 YEAH!!! That's on point!
@levantine99 in the past, honey... calm your tits.
you are still the rest though. my tits are perfectly find girl thanks for your concern.
@levantine99 Know. You didn't even bother to read, don't even das anything. Bye now
you fear invisible enemies. your only enemy is your bad self.
@levantine99 more like you are lol
hmm kk
@levantine99 gtfo of my comment
go visit a doctor. or an exorcist or something.
@levantine99 was don't you go gut your head checked. And since you won't go away on your own, I'm gonna have to block your bitchy little ass. Bye, bitch.
@levantine99 levantine99—Seems as though you pierced the veil-of-hate and suggests that her doctor would have to be a woman to have any impact.
Motherfuckers. I'm soooo regretting speaking up my mind to this fucking misogynist bunch of sad pervs. From now on, anyone who comments on this old as fuck shit will be blocked immediately. I will not allow you dictates to continue annoy the Shit out of me. I'm all out of Shit now. Fuck off.
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@TheDevilInside
BOEING
@Absolute_Revenge bye weirdo
this bitch is upset, someone gives something to suck on
@be_real101 suck on your mom, little kid.
I am going to list the common beliefs about men and boys, in today's society (whether they are true or not is not the issue). I want you to think about the psychological impact of those internalized beliefs. And then realize that anger/fear/hatred are all intertwined:
1 that men rule EVERYTHING, and that all of the worlds history is men's fault.
2 That men are bumbling idiots
3 that men are inherently dangerous
4 that men are unnecessary
5 that men always have it better then women, regardless of the situation
6 that men are tough and able to handle themselves
that's the psychological makeup of being raised men, reinforced by media, and social norms. Is anger a just response?
I feel like points 1 and 2 result in points 3 through 6 for people who actually do believe those.
But you make a very valid statement. I believe that anger is just the response.
SO you are shaming men and complaining that it's their fault for hating women?
If you want to hate on anyone for putting a rift between men and women... blame feminism and women who constantly attack men. Feminism is the hate group, MGTOW may have some whiners in it, but their basic core is that men are not your wallet, your protector, or your servant. Since this has become the core belief of the majority of women. Feminism is the reason male/female relations have been shattered.
Trying to blame men for it, is part of the reason guys who do have issues with women exist. Women seem to constantly skirt ownership of any responsibility.
"It's much easier to find someone other than yourself to blame."
Women in the US have alwasys been shallow, venal, and tended to belong to the rich, exclusively, sexually.
They used to hide when criticized for it.
But now, they are even more entitled, shallow, et., and they are quite up front about it, defend this behavior, and invoke feminist rhetoric to justify it!
Blaming it on guys' psychology? Well, Freud would have laughed out loud.
In no way could I, as a MAN, attribute the few bad encounters i've had with women and assume all women are the same. I love women. I love the female figure. And I hope one day I can find a best friend, who is a female, to share my life with.
What I hate is when a person is manipulative. And since the only people I want a relationship with are women, that makes me hate manipulative women.
It seems that you are making the mistake by assuming all men/most men of this generation hate women, when in reality, they don't hate women. They are either making assumptions about you, or you are not a nice person. Simple as that. People hate bad people. And they only judge people who are potential partners.
It comes down to this, women have dating much easier (and life if they want it) since 1% of men can knock up 100% of women, making 99% of men superfluous to reproduction and making female sexual worth far higher. Women are intrinsically sexual objects and this is by far their biggest advantage, shit even "straight" women are more aroused by the female body than the male body indiana.edu/.../Chivers_Seto_Blanchard_2007.pdf (scientific proof of that statement). Wome just have to be while men have to do, this is why women were thought of as less than men for many years, as women are worth their vagina while men have eclectic worth.
just another feminist trying to be the victim, whatever
internet is full of websites dedicated for men hating, them websites consists of thousands and thousands of women who hate men with passion. Some man hating websites reached 100 000 users.
Things they write there are sickening they go as far to write even little boys deserve their throat slit.
All this men are evil , women are innocent is just pure bs.
I just have a couple of questions and i hope that someone can answer them (p. s i hate no one i love women ) .
1- when you are constantley bombarded with attention from women you know for a fact have bfs or even are engaged, who will back away once you approach them or actually talk to you and give you their number but lead you on, keep you as a back up plan but never let you get anything til they're sure the first guy is a lost cause , how should you feel?
2- if you are a normal dude who believes being nice, clear and not expecting anything works with women only to be hit with the harsh truth... nice guys with no balls to be pushy never get women, being clear works after a while just not right away and it really leaves a bad impression if you tell a woman i like you or i want to date you, not to mention womens action most of the time dont match their words, how should a guy who got to know all that the hard way feel?
I always think that it's much better for me to work on myself than to chase things or be too focused on things I cannot control. In the end, there's only me and no one else.
Back in my senior of high school, all I focused on was my studies and my grades. I didn't feel strong attraction towards girls at that time. The funny thing was that two cute girls started liking me. I never once talked to them before or did anything to them but they came to me and were very friendly. Alas, my 17 year old self did not take advantage of the situation and they all left.
I have some regrets but what's done is done. There will always be better and prettier girls out there who will love me for who I am without me having to search for them.
Lulzy. Nothing to do with women being fatter than all hell, their atrocious mannish behavior, having other men's kids... basically completely shirking their end of a social contract they constantly demand men still adhere to.
Nope. Just a bunch of whiny incels who hate women because they can't get em taking the easy way out by hating them. Women are perfect, men are the fucked up ones. Nothing to see here.
Good luck with your cats and boxed wine.
First stop generalizing guys, not all guys hate women. Secondly people hide behind computer screens and talk very boldly yet they wouldn't say it person. Another is these guys that are complaining that women are rejecting them, man up take it as a grain of salt and move on. It's her loss, you're to be the man in relationship, society, and life. The reason you can't find her is because your behind a computer screen, and the profile of the person is half real.
Go old school and get to know them face to face, heck she maybe beautiful yet extremely rude. Or vice a versa, she may not be magazine beautiful but have an attractive personality. You don't know, now get out there!
All about self, it is easier to hate on others rather than own up to your own deficiencies and work on them
I adore women
Misogynists disapprove. But hey, who said ever, that the truth doesn't hurt :P?
@Unit1 Agree, truth hurts with Mysogynists like any other zealots- defined by self hate
Fun Fact: Most misogynists are female.
@MajorCinnamonBuns source?