The "Friend Zone" DOES exist!

[RalphBlack]

Ok youngins,

LISTEN UP!

The friend zone exists. I know some of you are in denial that it doesn't exist just because of the silly way it is named but it does exist.

You can write your articles justifying how it is complete bullshit and then write big long explanations about how chemicals in the brain counteract when a man and a woman are attracted to each other and they chemicals dont when they aren't attracted to each other.

But it is the same thing as what you says does not exist.

Somebody just happened to give it this name for playing the cards wrong

Attraction is chemistry and a too nice of a guy who is always there for the girl, buys them gifts constantly before they are dating, always giving boyfriend advice DID NOT mix the formulas of chemicals right to make the situation romantic.

See? the Result way to create good chemistry is by throwing in some white hot mystery which causes an amazing white flame.

Friend Zone is like a science experiment gone wrong

Its like making meth down under your moms basement and having it blow up in your face.

What you have to do is avoid these signs of a woman trying to friend zone you before its too late and become a little daring with what you say and do.

Tell her how you feel and if she says that she only sees you as a friend then you have to tell her how you really feel.

Then if she refuses then you say, "Look, Im not going to change my mind on this. I am not going to force it either"

Then you make yourself scarce.

Make her miss you.

Admit that this is real and not a myth.

Dont stick around and force your feelings on someone that wot riciprocate them or it will never work.

Go out and make something better of yourself

Improve your life goals and career.

Dont put anyone on the pedestal and then life will go smooth for you.

She will either miss you and return in a more passionate way or she won't and you know that it just wasn't meant to be.

Either way, you have won in the end because you are happy...

You've accepted that this is real but you have also realized that it doesn't really matter because life is precious. LIVE IT!

[LotusFIowerBomb]

Really hate that word. "Friend zone" is just another form of unrequited love, but made up for those who just won't accept and in DENIAL that their love interest just simply isn't interested. You don't see me getting interested in a guy and when a guy says he just prefers being friends I get all ohhh he just friend zoned me. No I'll just move on and forget about it. And no one asks to receive gifts. You think just giving someone gifts they're just automatically going to want to be yours? Try doing that to someone who's stupid enough to fall for it. I second Hyperballad.

[LotusFIowerBomb]

The gift part is not towards you, Ralph Black, but those who actually think it might work.

[RalphBlack]

Yeah I tried to explain the best that I could in this article that it is unrequited love. the reason why I wrote this is because I see articles saying that the friend zone isn't true.
I mean the name may be made up but so is a lot of names of things.
Somebody had to name whatever this thing is that makes it a for sure thing that there will never be any romantic interest that is reciprocated between a certain man and woman.
Somebody clever just named it, "Friend Zone" and it stuck.
Its like the word twerk. I hate the word twerk but now its what butt jiggling is called

[yaddayaddayadda02]

Completely the wrong path to take. If you tell a girl you like her, she says "let's be friends". The only response to avoid the friend zone and misery is "ok, well I'm not looking for more friends, text me if you change your mind". And then go on your way.

[RalphBlack]

I think that is what I said. Yeah... pretty sure that I did

[Marinepilot]

That's exactly what one should do. The FZ is unholy perdition, Don't be her male girlfriend or emotional tampon. Be the bad boy, treat her like shit and sadly, she will come around. Women give the nooky to bad bos when they're young and pretty. Then they get
dumped and come groveling to nice girls as damaged, used leftovers, Unworthy of even
the faggietss beta orbiter. Men all they're good for at this point is to pump and dump
and to be used by nice guys. Then dumped like the rubbish they are.

[killerboots]

Everybody keep saying that "friend zone" doesn't exist but they keep saying the word. Y'all keep proving his point that it does exist. But most of the time men does this to themselves. Just walk away with your head high and say "at least I tried."

[RalphBlack]

Great words :)

[Hyperballad]

Even after reading this I don't think the friend zone exist.
Just because someone likes you enough to be their friend doesn't mean it's enough foundation for some "True Love" bullshit to bloom.

Instead of whining people should find someone who reciprocates the feelings he /she desires.

[RalphBlack]

Exactly and people who whine and don't know how to be romantic enough to create a relationship, they usually end up friend zoned.
As long as they stick around even though they are aware that what the other made clear that they don't feel that way then they are either friend zoned or become worse, "a stalker"
They can either accept the fact that they will only be friends forever or not and move on because if they really weren't having there goal to be friends then why stick around?
If you give space then perhaps feelings of romance may develop but don't get hopes up. You actually have to move on and pursue other people, goals, hobbies and career.
Maybe if you made yourself scarce then the feelings of romance will develop. Or maybe the person who had the string feelings have realized that they really didn't like that person that way.

[MaskedSanity]

This is utter bullshit.

It doesn't matter what phoney baloney tricks you try to pull to "make her miss you". If I don't like you, you can perform all the rain dances you want, but my mind will not change.

The friend zone is a term created by butthurt men such as yourself, who can't handle the reality of rejection, so you make up your little circle jerk and "ideas" of how to get out of it.

Lmao, this is just sad. If a guy liked me, but also believed in this friend zone bullshit, his chances would rapidly sink.

Grow up, accept that women can't be programmed to like you based on some made up tricks and move on to the girl that's reciprocating your feelings.

[RalphBlack]

Such as myself?
I guess you didn't understand the article.
And yes "Friend Zone" exists just like the word marriage and dating exist.
Attraction exist. Being a creepy stalker exists.
These all exist so yeah... all I am pointing out here is that people say the word, "Friend zone" doesn't exist but it actually does.
And yes, I am not wrong that if you distance yourself from someone who thinks of you as just a friend then feelings can change.
Even you, my friend.
If we were ACTUAL friends but I liked you and confessed it, then you said I'm sweet then I would back off.
It would either spark attraction because you missed me and I would have time to mature as my own man and then you would possibly see me again as a man that I want because I matured into a better more confident version of me.
Or I just get a girlfriend and you would kind see you missed out on such a catch.
Or maybe not at all but that's just life

[HardToDescribe]

I think you are right. I know if I am attracted to a girl, I treat her the way I want to be treated. Either we get closer or farther as we get to know each other on a deeper level. I think faking you aren't interested is stupid if you really are. Good way to build a relationship on shaky ground. Being honest about the way you feel is how to get the same. Faking who you are might get you laid more. But if you want real love, you have to give real love. in my opinion anyway.

[MaskedSanity]

No, it would not spark any attraction. Seriously, stop treating women like some programmable meatbags that you can throw tricks at to get your way.

IT DOESN'T WORK.

If a female came back to you, it's because she already liked you to some extent. Your tricks play a very little role in whether a girl will be interested in a relationship with you.

And no, the "friend zone" does not exist. The word you're looking for is REJECTION. By using the term "friens zone" you're actually demonizing women for not reciprocating your feelings and creating an illusion of said rejection being temporary.

Your argument for the term itself existing is retarded and serves no purpose. OF COURSE the term exists, considering how many entitles butthurt men are using it. What we're tired of is this term constantly being brought up the second some guy's advances are shot down, a circlejerk sparkles over how "some bitch" didn't appreciate his "great guy" and placed him in the "friend zone".

[RalphBlack]

You are a very angy woman. Go for a jog orsomething

[RalphBlack]

*angry

[RalphBlack]

Just because it isn't the right way to be doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Crime is wrong but it still exists.

[Arthurred]

Whoah!!!

[MaskedSanity]

Nice ad hominem there, bro.

[dav123]

So stop leading men on in order to keep them in the friendzone

[MaskedSanity]

@dav123

Please explain in extensive detail how I've lead anyone on. Take your time.

[RalphBlack]

It's been two years. Are you done being so angry now?

[aamy811]

I'm pretty sure the friend zone doesn't exist. I don't want to secretly date all of my friends, that's why their my friends and not my significant other. I don't have to like every guy I meet I can merely be friends with them, that's not friend zoning that's just called having friends. I don't get why I should be made the bad guy because I don't want I have sex with someone or date someone

[RalphBlack]

I don't get why you don't think the friend zone exists but yet you say you don't want to secretly date all of your friends.
And if you really don't like the person that may finally admit that he likes you then you don't have to.
it is his problem if he continues to pine over you. But if he does somehow spark romantic feelings in you then great!
"Friend Zone" exists but it isn't eternity like the pits of hell would be.
There are ways to crawl out of it but you have to be very smooth at it
most times a guy is just wasting his time if he has already been placed there because he is clueless which means he should just move on to the next

[aamy811]

But the idea of the friendzone doesn't exist it literal called friends. If I'm a heterosexual sexual male I'm not friend zoning my male friends, they're just my friends, but even then why couldn't I have just friend who are girls. Isn't boring only having a SO and no one else. I don't how you could live with just a boyfriend or girlfriend and have no friends

[RalphBlack]

People who friend zone somebody don't say, "YOU ARE FRIEND ZoNED!" After they confess their undying love to them.
Some are actually clueless to this because the other person was so secretive about how they felt.
When the other feels romantic feelings when the other doesn't then finally admits it to the one who only feels platonic feelings, they don't know how to handle the rejection and they tend to ruin even the friendship by acting super needy and desperate.
By walking away and being scarce and moving on, this can either have the person with romantic feelings either accept that all it will be will be friends or figure out what they are doing wrong and perhaps the platonic friend may either miss them and realize there can be something romantic or they could not.
Either way, once something is said the first time that isn't reciprocated then there has to be space and you have to move on to live your life.
The word friend zone us a title to a feeling.

[aamy811]

No there's already a title and it's just called friends. The term friend zone was made just so girls feel bad and feel obligated to either sleep with the guy or date him. It's also a way for those guys to host a pity party. You haven't been friend zoned your just friends. People have friends, not because they haven't unnoticed feeling but because they like the person'a personality and aren't sexually attracted to them. I'm assuming your a heterosexual male, but don't you have male friends cause you think they're cool people but you aren't sexually attracted to them so your not dating them. That's not friend zoning that's just being friends

[RalphBlack]

What you are pretty much saying without realizing is that you have thought that you were good friends with a guy who really wants to have sex with you. He thought that doing all these nice things like showering with gifts, being the crying shoulder and giving advice about guys would one day make you think of him sexually. But then when he brings up finally that he wants a relationship and you say that you see him as a friend then of course you will feel bad.
The guy was being manipulative and not telling you to begin with that you and him are just friends. If that were so then it isn't vonsidered, "Friend Zone" because you both have a mutual understanding.
Friend zoning really means unreciprocated feelings toward one another because one person was too afraid to make the moves or tell somebody how they really felt in the beginning. It's like making a blog be sandwich with mayonnaise. The longer you wait to eat it, the more the oils will get uneven and it will be gross

[aamy811]

That's once again just unreciprocated feeling I don't even understand why the term friend zone exists.
But too many guys think that because they're nice to a girl she owe him somehow an if she doesn't repay him she's friend zoning him. That's stupid and guys are using the term friend zone as an excuse to make people feel bad for not doing anything. That's my biggest problem with the term friend zone

[RalphBlack]

Because someone actually made a name for it. If you want to name it something else then by all means name it something else.
Name it unreciprocated feelings. I didn't name it that. I'm just telling you that somebody named it that and explaining what it means.
Why do some words that you don't like exist? Because somebody got to it first and named it then people thought it was catchy and stuck with it.
If you have some better name then name it something else. Then it will be catchy and we won't have to hear this "Friend Zone" name any longer.

[aamy811]

Lol the original name was unreciprocated feelings. Friend zone is a modern pop culture tone

[RalphBlack]

And guys who do that aren't really your friend. That is why they got friend zoned. Because they don't understand women and what they want. They don't understand how to move an intimate relationship forward.
Now if they knew all along from the beginning that they just wanted to be friends then it isn't friend zoning.
Friend zoned people are people who made themselves to be inexperienced dorks who don't know how to cause sexual escalation in a person because they don't really understand sexual human behavior.

[aamy811]

But the problem is those guys try to pull the "nice guy" card and complain that women don't like them. Real nice guys aren't nice so girls date them it's because they genuinely like and try to be nice

[RalphBlack]

Exactly.
The guy who is "Friend zoned" pretty much has manipulative intentions.
Women can read emotions a lot more than guys can because women go more by emotions and guys mostly go by looks in the beginning.
That is why guys are friend zoned more likely than women are.
Women are normally manipulative because the friend zoned guy is manipulative by pretending that his only intentions to begin with were to be just friends.
Now if both the man and the woman knew in the beginning that they are just friends and genuinely were ok with this then fate always has a way of running its course.
But as long as everything is in its natural state then things go where they are suppose to go.
Being forced on things allows feelings of feeling trapped and indecisive.
Having the option allows one to feel free

[aamy811]

But the thing is, these girls are honest. We say this is are friend. We refer to you as are friend. We don't date you because your are friend. It's who ever gets attracted to the other. You can genuinely mean to be just friends, but if one of you falls for the other then that's kind of your fault. You haven't been friend zoned she just thinks of you as a friend which is how all friends are

[HardToDescribe]

Exactly! It's just a word. Things and people change their entire lives, I've been freinds with girls long before getting into a relationship. And I've been in a relationship that became friends when we just didn't work out as a couple. But I will always just be the true me, no matter what happens with the relationship. I refuse to play mind games, because I hate receiving mind games. We reap what we sow, that's just how it works usually.

[been_waiting]

Your article didn't explain how it actually exists?

Yet another little pretentious fuck on Gag saying their opinion is fact ^.^

All the "friend zone" is, is unrequited love. The end. That's it. Period. Story over.

[RalphBlack]

is that why you've been_waiting?

[been_waiting]

No it isn't.

[been_waiting]

www.girlsaskguys.com/.../a7737-the-friendzone-does-not-exist-the-way-you-think-it-does

😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊

[RalphBlack]

DO... NOT... say "the end"!

This isn't Cinderella.

[Scrambled]

Friendship zone is such a stupid thing (I am king of the friendshipzone by the way but I use it as a fun illustration that I am not successful with attraction). Its like a massive monster with its own name created to explain "no thank you" from the opposite gender. How can anyone make a big deal of something that "isn't" You not attractive to him/her and that's it. You then create a delusional entity like "friendshipzone" to explain such an obvious concept. Anyway...

[RalphBlack]

It's ok to be a friend as long as you're cool with it.

[Anonymous]

Karen Straughan video is the best analysis ever on the friendzone:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9XDb0nxSO4

"Look out! It's a Nice Guy! DESTROY HIM!!11! ."
" .. I don't really see what's so wrong with wanting sex, and trying to convince someone you like to have it with you" -> hits the nail on the head.

For sure it exists.

[RalphBlack]

ho is this lady? Why is she famous? Wha?

[Opinion Owner]

Cause she talks sense/rationality in a world where everyone's speaking bullshit all the time

[Rapunzel2490]

It definitely exists, and for me personally, once I see a guy as a friend, he'll never get out of that zone.

[RalphBlack]

Do you let him know upfront or do you like to see him try?

[Rapunzel2490]

If they make a move and I don't see them that way I tell them. It may seem harsh, but I'd rather them focus on a girl who could potentially make them happy, than me when they have no chance.

[Ulyss]

Finally a chick that finally knows what she wants rather than waste some poor guy's time

[Rapunzel2490]

Gracias :)

[RalphBlack]

Great job. See?
At least you are being honest. If the guy doesn't except your feelings then he was never a friend to begin with and that is why he is friend zoned.
If he was a true friend then he will appreciate you for who you are and what you feel.
Afterall, true relationships are about communication and having a balance of respecting each other's wants and needs whether it is platonic or romantic.
If one doesn't respect it then time is wasted.

[dav123]

thanks for the rare honesty.

@Take Owner The most insidious part of the whole friendzone thing though is that most friendzone "friendships" are actually not friendships at all in that they are 90% of the time one-sided - the men *are* devoted friends to the women, but the women usually offer nothing in terms of friendship for the men (by that I mean actual friend stuff, like, your car gets stuck somewhere and you need to call someone, or you need help moving). So the men are actually usually getting neither friendship nor love/sex.

[Rapunzel2490]

I think it might be because when a woman friendzones a man she was interested in, it's disappointing to her. So she puts in less effort. That's why I think people should only say things they mean. If they don't want to be friends, don't say it.

[Marinepilot]

It does exist. Rarely have I ever been friends with a girl who rejected me. There are too many fish in the sea. Many times the girl who "friend zoned" me came back. I used them sexually and made damn sure that I wasn't always there for them. After this it ran it's course.

[RalphBlack]

Good job.

[Rei02]

I have been in the Friend Zone many times, not sure what I am doing wrong. Because if I contact, they lose interest, if I don't, they think I don't care.

[RalphBlack]

Everything is about balance.
A lot of times when we don't know better, we tend to think of the ones we care about as our own personal crlebrities.
We don't set boundaries for ourselves.
We don't excrpt the fact that life go's on, that we have other options and that life God on.
You may think that she is the most important thing in the world but until she is actually your girlfriend then she is just another girl so until then stop treating her as if every other girl on this planet died off and that is all you get.
Everyone wants what is valuable whether they like to admit it or not.
If she saw you as a guy who is loved by many people and women adore you then she will pursue you.
Our behavior in ourselves exudes whatever energy exudes out of ourselves.
If we act sad all the time then it will pour out of us. If we act happy then happiness will pour out of us. We just have to change our negatives into positives. doing that we have got to live lives for us selfless and

[RalphBlack]

Content so that others will want to join

[DarkHumorRUs]

So, has anyone ever actually pulled this off? Playing hard to get after being friendzoned and then having a successful, LONG relationship?

[RalphBlack]

Yes but the more life experience you have with people in general then it is a lot easier.
In my earlier years in life I was a lot more emotionally unstable which turned off a lot of women and they can see that I wasn't a centered man or potential relationship material.
The best thing to do is be a guy who is loved by many.
Practicing social skills and being a great person who knows who to be friends with, who to have a relationship and know who to keep at arms length.
Never treat anyone as lesser value and never treat someone as a higher value.
Do your best to treat everyone that you encounter as an equal.
If one doesn't have enough decency to treat you with dignity and respect then know when to walk away.
If they don't get it then that's when it's ok to raise your voice and do something about it. That's when it is ok to say something about it.
If one is not giving you what you planned then perhaps they misunderstood or they know and they are using it as an advantage.

[DarkHumorRUs]

That's EXACTLY how I am. Trust me. People who know me would agree. I don't hate anyone, nobody hates me, and most people who know me well pretty much love me. But I haven't been in a relationship still. Probably because I never ask out girls...

[RalphBlack]

Being loved by many and being loved by a woman intimately is different.
You have to be confident in your sexual core as well.
Exude confidence as someone who knows what he wants in a woman.
Then a woman will have the desire to sleep with you.
You can be the nicest guy in the world but you gotta be nice to yourself.
You can say yes to everyone's needs but if you aren't saying yes to your needs then that isn't everyone so really you are not saying yes to everyone because you aren't saying yes to yourself.
So when you feel like someone is taking advantage of what you really don't want but say yes to anyways then you have to change that yes that you give to them into a no so that the no that is given to you constantly is a yes to yourself instead.

[DarkHumorRUs]

I'm 17... I actually want a relationship, not just sex. I don't need a woman to "have a desire to sleep with me".

[RalphBlack]

Well I am just saying that with having a actual relationship with women then you have more than just talking about your deep thoughts. You also have kissing instead of just hugging. You have sex instead just cuddling. Sex and kissing are just part of what makes a relationship. You also have to keep each other engaged in each other emotionally, physically and communicatively.
If you have a girl talking to you about there boyfriend problems then that is a sign that she views you as only a friend and you have to do what you can to avoid that because if you truly find this woman attractive and the potential to be a woman that you want to be your girlfriend then the farther you are there in the friendship as acting like her therapist then it is a lot harder for her to view you as anything other than that. Then it is a lot harder for you to convince her otherwise. The longer that you wait then the longer you spent a lot of your valuable precious life doing the wrong things.

[Notedkibbles]

The friend zone is an offer a girl gives that involve just friendship no romance.

How to get out the friendzone: don't be her friend and move on if a girl isn't giving you what you want then go

[RalphBlack]

Nice work son

[jjodllwedo]

im preatty sure no one has ever said that the friendzone dosent exsist.

[RalphBlack]

Google it and I will prove you wrong.

[jjodllwedo]

or you know, stop living in a fantasy world.

[BLACKRALPH]

That is pretty childish to block me just because you disagree with my opinion. God you're a dork.
And fuck you!

[BLACKRALPH]

I love you Natalie

[jjodllwedo]

Lol says The guy that got so butthurt and made a new account to tell me"fuck you"

[emptyjblack]

No. I didn't get so BUTTHURT to make new account just to tell you "fuck you' I remembered I made another account so I told you "fuck you" because of the fact that you are a control freak and can dish it out but can't take it so you block me. You I am guessing are a shy timid little person with horrible social skills.
You probably hate walking outside and facing reality so you have masked yourself with a persona on the internet to seem all confident edgy and cool.
Also throwing accusations at me that I am living in a fantasy world without me even saying that tells me that people tell you that all the time.

I also find it very contradicting how people say that "Friend Zone" is a made up word.

So is the word "Butt hurt"

And yes... This one I made this profile just for you so feel special that you actually have somebody that cares enough to even respond to your "dumbassery".

[ClauseViter]

The friend zone exists to stupid people. People who don't realize attraction is mutual.

[RalphBlack]

And stupid people don't realize it actually exist. They also don't realize that that is what I am trying to say in this fucking article

[Findesemana]

look dude, can you control what every other human does?

get the fuck over it...

[RalphBlack]

I feel more angry every time I comment on who's commented on an innocent article.

Especially when they think that it applies to
Me.

By the way, great email you have me a while back about attraction.

I don't think i told you to get the fuck over it for writing some self help articles now did i?

[Pinkbeauty]

I didn't even know there was such a thing as the frieand zone and I never knew what it was until I started to hear about it be talked about and I know what it means

[KleinTeef]

Whether it does or doesn't, we can all agree it's not a good place to be in.

[RalphBlack]

You absolutely right

[YourFutureEx]

That ^ is
successful experiment.

[Anonymous]

Brilliantly written. Well said!

[RalphBlack]

Thanks :)