A 15-year-old Oregon boy, Kameron Howell-Meeke, was hailed a hero after he bravely pushed his new friend, Ellie Fielder, out of the way before a suspected drunk driver ran him over this week.
Kameron Howell-Meeker was walking with Ellie Fielder, 17, along River Road in Clackamas County outside of Portland when they heard the screeching tire of a pickup truck as it swerved towards them Tuesday.
Suddenly, Ellie felt a shove from Kameron — whom she just met last month at Rex Putnam High School — right before she watched him get hit by the truck and tumble over the hood.
Ellie Fielder, 17, said she owes her life to 15-year-old Kameron Howell-Meeker, who pushed her out of the way before he was hit by a drunk driver.
“I saw my life flash before my eyes. He’s my hero and my lifesaver, because if it weren’t for him, I would not be sitting here today.”
The crash sent the 6-foot-3 Kameron to a local hospital with a broken pelvis, torn ligaments and a compressed spine, the news station reported.
The truck’s driver, Corey Brownlee,
was cuffed at the scene and later charged with driving under the influence and assault, police said.
But Ellie said the crash helped forge a close bond between them.
“I’d be dead,” she told the news station. “He’s going to be my best friend for life.”
(Kameron heart spikes whenever Ellie visits him)
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From the video. Does she sound genuine?
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Question for GAG girls: Guy saves your life, and ask you out. Would you reject or accept his offer?
Saving a girl's life: Does this girl owe him a shot at dating and does she sound genuine to you when she says they'd be BFF?
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-She sounds genuine but so what? Doesn't mean it'll last, it might, it might not. It's probably last for a time at least, because there's a good deal of trust their for the time being.
-She doesn't "owe" him, but protecting girls is a panties dropper quiet honestly. I wouldn't be surprised if *she* feels like she owes him and really appreciates what he did to the point of affection and emotional attachment.
-I highly doubt *he* feels owed a romantic opportunity as such.
I believe 99% of examples where women think a guy is acting "entitled" (I also question that this occurs frequently) is actually a guy really *wanting* something to happen and felt like things were going fine and then got frustrated when it didn't work out. If these things don't work out then a guy is totally justified in feeling mad because it's a frustrating situation (fucking duh), but he's not justified in taking it out on a woman for her feelings and I think plenty of guys understand this. I fkn hate when people bring up "owing."
She doesn't owe him a date. You date people because you are into them, not because of any obligation. I'm hoping Kameron is smart enough to realize this and classy enough to accept it if she refuses him.
Suppose, Roostah, that a woman who you are not at all attracted to saves your life. Do you feel you owe her a date? Why or why not? Even better, suppose a gay man saves your life. Do you owe him a date?
I've dated a woman I wasn't attracted to. It was sad and awful and I don't recommend it to ANYONE. If she's not into him, she is under no obligation to date him.
by the way, this reminded me of a Family Guy episode:
Isn't a date is someone you have feelings for or at least attraction to? You can't force a heart to have certain feelings, do you? It would be unfair for him to be with someone who doesn't love him as much as he deserves to be loved when he can be with someone who would give him that love easily and honestly. If this incident, however, changed the way she feels towards him, then yes, why not? Otherwise, her gender doesn't change anything; it is just like him saving a guy friend of his or a family member. She would be grateful for life and would try to repay this great deed in a suitable way. Plus, for some people, a friendship lasts longer than a romantic relationship. Maybe she doesn't want to lose this valuable friendship.
She owes him her gratitude. He saved her life and is a wonderful young man for doing so. He thought quickly and bravely. Their friendship is stronger but as for dating unless there's been attraction or it grows naturally she doesn't owe him that. I am not so sure he would want that. He doesn't seem smitten by her and if anything he reacted as a well raised gentleman. If they fall in love then bless them both if not that's ok too :)
This is such a heartwarming story. We tend to think of all human beings as so selfish but it is in times like this one's true nature comes out.
You can't force romantic feelings but I do believe she feels a great deal of loyalty towards him. If I were her I'd see to it that he has a good girlfriend and he would be like my favorite brother.
Further to your question: does she sound genuine; you aren't hearing her in the moment and she has had time to process. It isn't her job to be a mess on TV it is her job to make this news about him.
I was involved in a very bad car accident that wasn't my fault when the truck I was driving was T boned on a highway by a mentally disabled woman who ran a stop sign when I was just 16 so their age.
The truck flipped end over end for more than 200 feet and I was awoken by my best friend pressing the horn for attention even though we already had 20 people who piled over to help us. The engine was still on at first and I thought the truck was going to explode. I slapped her hand and told her we had to crawl out NOW of the upside down vehicle. She said she couldn't because her finger was trapped in the door. I yanked her finger and with the help of others got her out quickly. You don't forget people who you were in crisis with. You simply just don't.
I didn't watch the video but "best friend for life" doesn't sound like she wants to date him...
If a guy saved my life I'd be extremely thankful, I'd want to do something nice for him to express my gratitude as I would with anyone who helped me in some way, but dating someone isn't a way to express gratitude. If I date someone its because I'm interested in them romantically. He isn't owed a date or a relationship with her if that's what you're getting at.
Well, I'd kind of have to, otherwise "I owe you my life" wouldn't actually mean anything and it would only prove how cheap my own life is to me lol Kind of have to be a man of my word
Well, I'm not going to go to jail if a 13 year old pushes me out of the way of a car lol
Really though, like I said... owing somebody your life means you owe them everything. It's kind of a big deal to realize that you would be dead if someone else wasn't attracted to you enough for them to wish that they would rather be dead than you.
I'm not saying marry the guy, but you couldn't even give him the benefit of the doubt after he saved your life and give him a fair chance just because he's a weird looking fat ginger kid? lol
@M_A_X um..." It's kind of a big deal to realize that you would be dead if someone else wasn't attracted to you enough for them to wish that they would rather be dead than you." If that's why he saved her life that's super fucked up. And shallow.
I would never tell anyone I owe them my LIFE. I'd express my gratitude, but my life is mine. And to most people who say it its merely an expression not to be taken literally.
If you date someone it should be because you have a genuine interest in them, not bc you feel you owe them. Dating someone bc you "owe them" is not only unfair to you but them as well- they deserve someone who is with them because they're genuinely liked and desired. I mean do you really want a girl to date you bc she feels obligated to?
And honestly if you do a good deed to guilt others into shit, you're not that great.
I agree with @RachelBrigs she wouldn't be in love with the guy merely the act that he committed which would be a unhealthy relationships for them both really because they would be lying to themselves
Yeah, you need to not go into a whole "guys like me just think like this about women and I'm sexist" because I said that if a girl saved my life, and she wanted to go out on a date with me for it, I couldn't say no. That's not sexist, please don't put words in my mouth that I didn't even imply.
And again, really? It's one date. At that point, it just makes it seem like you're ungrateful if you can't even give them one date and a fair chance lol
If I was only alive because a girl liked me enough to push me out of the way of a moving car and end up in the hospital, it would be ungrateful AF of me to not give her at least one date and a fair chance. That's all I'm saying, so don't read a bunch of BS into it that I'm not saying.
We're not talking about someone sending you flowers and demanding a date. We're talking about someone ALMOST DYING so you don't die. We can assume they didn't do it just for a damn date, because that would make them mentally insane, but if they survived and ended up in the hospital and figured "what the hell. I like them, now's a good time to see if they like me, after all I just saw my GODDAMN LIFE FLASH BEFORE MY EYES and I had to rethink a lot. Let's take a risk here and see how it goes" . Again, we're not talking about someone who jumped in front of the damn car like "THIS WILL GET ME LAID LOLOOLOL"
@M_A_X I actually haven't really looked at the picture or watched the video, not sure what the kid looks like. But um I'm talking about a hypothetical scenario based on this one, not this exact one. I'm not even thinking about either of the people involved. And fyi my first kiss was a ginger so shut it. 😂
If the guy who saved my life seemed like a guy I would like, yeah I'd give him a shot- same with any other guy I had that feel for. But if I don't feel it at all I'm not gonna force something because I feel guilty. Like I said that's not what dating is about.
But if we are talking about this case specifically, the boy is way too young for me.
That's not the way to be though. People online are the same people in the real world for the most part. You should care what other people think. This topic isn't really all that important, I was just trying to figure out your mindset on it. I have aspergers. I have to ask questions to understand where someone is coming from
I give a shit in the sense that I listen and respond but I don't overly concern myself with it. I don't take too much stock in it anymore. people say crazy shit online. They are actual people yes but there's more to that story.
There are people who will say things online just to say them and troll, but most people are about as much themselves online as they are IRL. If they're a liar IRL they're probably a liar online lol If they're ghetto IRL probably gonna act ghetto online.
As you get older you'll get better at reading people and you'll see how little they actually do fake. Take care.
Wow he is very brave an that I soo fricken awesome.. he is so amazing to do that, but no she doesn't owe him to date (like most people say) but if feelings grow over time than sure, this is such an amazing story and it just like wow. They must be pretty close friends. If a guy saves my life and asks me out I would not reject him, but only if he really wants to go out with me. BUT I would not date date him just for saving my life, I would love to get to know him better and see where it goes from there tho.
Isn't that what dating is.. you're romantically involved with someone.. I'm assuming you would be saying that in dating you kiss and hold hands with the person? that's pretty much being romantically involved lol.
dating Of a couple, to be in the early stages of a relationship where they go out on dates to find out what each other is like, as a prelude to actually being a fully fledged couple.
What your referring to is when people become couples in relationships. i. e. boyfriend/girlfriend.
I've always known dating to be that you are romantically involved a lot of my friends also refer to it as the same, with that being said, I don't see why she couldn't accept a date out to dinner or something but he needs to be respectful in that if she doesn't want anything more then to leave it. I would probably accept out of respect. If something more comes of it then great, you can't force someone to be with someone.
Guys who think they are owed sexual or romantic favors for performing general human tasks are the reason why rape laws exist and good guys get frustrated by having potential rapist associated with them purely because they have a penis.
Dating should be something they agree on later, as it feels natural to them, if it does. But they need to cultivate a foundation for it first. Now respect is something she totally owes him, for what he did. Beyond that, it's pushing it.
It sure beats my situation with a coworker. I've bailed her out of jams, and she repays me by doing something even dumber, against my advice. And finally, gets burned in a way that I can't save her from. Her response? To refuse to speak to me, and to spread rumors about me at work. So much for gratitude.
I mean, I would think he deserves extra brownie points and extra consideration if he were to ask her out. If I were him and I saw her dating a douche or my arch nemesis I would be pissed for multiple reasons and she didn't consider me as a viable option.
1. I risked my life for you. You would be dead. I didn't have to. I bet your douch boyfriend wouldn't do that for you.
2. I WAS HIT BY A FUCKING CAR THAT BROKE MY KNEES! I will have perminant damage from that crash. Maybe a kiss if I wanted one.
3. Just like you don't owe me a date, I didn't owe you by saving your life and getting hit by a car. I did it anyways. Maybe, just maybe, return the favor...
he's a good guy/better guy than most and based on thta i think she should give him a chance, the thing about this world is girl think a date makes something has 2 happen its giving it a shot not marrying the guy
@MaskedSanity why would your relative go on a date? You're not even the same age o. o If him getting hitguess by a car doesn't make you fall for him nothing will I guess
@MaskedSanity you compared a friend to a family member. Not the same. Terrible comparison. Friend does not equal family. I bet you $1000 she will go out with a douche bag who will treat her horribly. She seems like that kind of chick. Then she will complain to her best friend there and say, "why can't I find a guy that treats me right?"... EVERY GIRL SAYS THAT WHEN THEY ARE IN THAT TYPE OF RELATIONSHIP.
Meanwhile, the guy she was looking for the entire time was right in front of her. However, if I were him I would move on and let her suffer for her choices. Unless he is into being a second choice - fallback guy.
No, you show her what she missed out on.
You will think, "but they are friends and if he loves her then he will wait"... No he won't. Why? Who wants to see their love being pumbled by another dude and just sit there like it doesn't matter because you love her. No, absolutely wrong. He will leave her and she will regret not dating him in the end.
You fail to understand that you're placing different expectations on her simply because she's a girl and he's a guy. In my scenario gratitude is perfectly acceptable, but oh ho ho not when there's vagina involved, suddenly she "owes" him shit.
I'm not even gonna bother going into it further, you're too deep into your bitterness to listen to reason.
@MaskedSanity if she saved his life and she liked him and confessed to him. I'd want him to be a man and understand that he would not be there today if not for her. Therefore I think it's best you play along to see if it works out. If it doesn't then that is fine. You at least owe her/him something in return.
You are looking at it like "he did it out of good will". Yeah, that may be true. However, you gave to understand you are able to live your life because of this person. You are able to experience new things because of this person.
The least you can do is have a date with them to see if it will work out. It's very immature to say "ohhhh I did not ask him to save my life".
If you don't think it will work out after one date then you can, "I'm sorry, I don't think our relationship can work out this way. I only see you as a friend and only ever will."
Which is what she would be doing before hand. However, it's more cruel to drag him along. Meaning put the man out if his misery
Do you have any experience in attraction and relationships at all?
If they have been friends for some time, she already knows whether she's attracted to him or not. A date is not gonna make a difference, so if she agreed to go on a date - it's out of pity and guilt, not because she wants to give him a shot.
@MaskedSanity good lord, you are stupid. Did you read what I said? You probably skimmed over it like an illiterate idiot. Read what I said and you will understand.
@MaskedSanity mhm. If you read it you would have understood and agreed. I know you didn't read it.
There is such a thing called "putting him out of his misery".
Let him experience it first hand. If it doesn't work out he will understand. It gives him the chance he has wanted and it fulfills his fantasy. Instead what you are saying is, "nah don't even bother. Let him suffer more."
She doesn't seem particularly genuine but then she's on tv and i'm sure that can make anyone act awkward or weird. So i think she probably is extremely grateful to him, that kid is a true hero. But he's 15. She's 17. I'm not saying age differences in relationships don't work, i'm just saying in high school she will probably be teased about dating someone two years younger. In terms of what i do, i'd respect the person who just saved my life. I wouldn't lie and string them along pretending to like them (if i wasn't attracted to them) all because i felt i owed them. That would be mean. That kid is amazing and deserves to date someone who not only knows how amazing he is but also is attracted to him.
Many in the comments seem to treat this "date" consept like marriage, but jeez. Is that really so much to do for someone who saved your life? I know if a girl saved mine and even I hated her I dont think that is a lot to ask of me, to just go on a date. I get and agree that you dont like owe them love basically or that you have to like force urself to love them, but a date is not love. And I also ponder how many in the comments here have been on failed dates or dates that just didn't turn into anything and those are fine but someone who saves your life it is a crime? Certainly shows a bit how skewed the world really is. Cause yes a date is not the same as anyone forcing you to love someone, silly in my opinion.
But yeah I would totally accept, assuming I would be single naturally. I'm not heartless.
She doesn't really owe him a chance at dating. And he's pretty young. 15 whiles she's 17? I would be friends and help out, but that doesn't mean I have to let him kiss or touch me
@M_A_X um, yeah. Most people kiss their s/o in high school, if not more than just kissing. You're old, by "dating" I mean boyfriend girlfriend, not 'just going out to the movies with a complete stranger to see if they're a cool person'
That's a great story. It really is and she doesn't owe him dating.
Now imagine the following: Same situation, but he pushes her, and she hits her head/back on the curb or lamp post and stays in a hospitalized temporary situation like him. Meanwhile he was fine cause the car stopped in time or missed him. (or the car still hits her cause the driver swerved on last second) Would he still be a hero or a jerk? Let's face it, it could have gone both ways.
@RachelBrigs (I know it has nothing to do with the question) That the intention and action would be the same, with a totaly different result. And that would change his image perceived by the public. Like sometimes people don't try to be heros cause they might think on what could go wrong out of the situation.
True being a hero doesn't happen any more because this exact reason. In the eyes of the work he would be tabled a jerk because he caused it even though he was trying 2 save her.
I don't necessarily think she owes him a date or a romantic relationship but she does owe him a friendship for the rest of his life, and a lifelong of gratitude.
I will say though, she didn't seem like she truly appreciated him going from her camera interview.
@goflipaburger Good point. I've noticed this as a teacher. However, our generation is usually bad with face-to-face interaction as well, since electronic took over our lives.
She owes him her thanks and her gratitude. Period. They were already friends. Now they are much closer. If a certain attraction develops, then I am sure they will date. but if that attraction is not there, there should be no date.
Was she genuine? I think she was to a point, but as many young people are, her attention span is not great. Notice that during the interview about 52 seconds in, she responds to her phone instead of what she is saying.
He's a good person. That's great. It's nice that he's okay - or will be. They're obviously friends. Only if she's attracted to him in that way should they date... otherwise what's the point? They'd break up in a few days anyways and he won't have any more experience than he did before. If she isn't attracted to him, she won't kiss him... or anything like that... A romantic attraction and chemistry - can't be forced.
@DeltsBrah do i look like i care that i'm 'cold hearted'? tho i prefer being than coming off as a someone stupid *coughs*like you two*coughs* seriously the guy saved her cause he wanted to save her. if he saved her with weird intentions then he doesn't even deserve to be thanked
All I can speak from is my perspective as a guy, but I wouldn't be expecting a date from her. Saving someone's life doesn't make romantic or even friendly feelings. I mean it can but not necessarily. I want to be a police officer though, so maybe that's why the different perspective.
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Do I believe she considers him her BFF? Absolutely.
Does she owe him anything? No, of course not.
Do I believe they'll start dating just because of that incident? Hell no.
No, she doesn't owe him anything. I mean, she might feel that she owes him something for saving her life, but, no, she doesn't owe him a date or even friendship.
Though it would be a great movie ending story if they did fall in love, but that doesn't really happen in the real world.
She owes him an incredible amount of gratitude but that's it. Just because he did a heroic thing doesn't mean that she owes him a blowjob, sex, or a relationship. I think it would be more cruel of her to accept when she wasn't keen on it, because then it's out of pity or obligation and not the real thing.
Wow what a guy. I believe he saved her because he WANTED. You don't need a medal just to help others. That's what friends do. Love and friendship on the other hand are two separate things but can be interrelated. For example sometimes love comes after friendship. Who know if those two might start dating. The girl is not obligated to marry him in my opinion. She didn't ask to be saved but you can tell she is sincere about her words. Any normal human being would react the same way.
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