at Hallmark stores, there are plenty of greeting cards for when a guy needs to say sorry to a woman, but there are no sections for "women apologize to men" cards.
where does this self righteous self centered entitlement come from?
I think it is about power and women care about power more than men do because they have a lack of it in our society. Lower salaries, smaller physical stature, chivalry (protecting the weak) and other factors give women the short end of the stick.
Studies show that men have the majority of the power in relationships up until the later years.
Men just want to repair things, fix it, make it better and are focused on how to achieve that goal. After a fight, kissing @ss in its various forms is a proven method.
Women don't always want a solution or to have things "fixed". There are some basic differences in the ways that men and women communicate.
(If and when) men talk to other men about problems, it is common practice for them to come up with a solution. When women talk to each other about a problem, many times it is not the solution, but the SUPPORT the troubled female receives from her compatriots that is important. It is sufficient for her friends to say things like, "damn, girlfriend, you're man is such a JERK." or "You so amazing, girl, you don't need that drama."
Very rarely do female friends offer constructive criticism in times of trouble. This support may lead to an affirmation of the female in conflict that she is in the right and should expect an apology from the male.
Conversely, males attempt to suss out underlying issues, like figuring out why the radio shorts out every time the heater is on in their 78' Chevy Impala. This often leads to men thinking about what THEY can do to improve the situation, what blame they take in the conflict that arose.
These things said, I would like to add the disclaimer that not all women and men are alike and blah blah blah this doesn't apply to everyone blah blah blah please don't flame me with your wrath, &c. :D
My girlfriend apologizes and she is not ashamed of it. My sister, however, would never apologize what-so-ever, and that used to p*ss me off a lot. So I gave it some thinking and I came to a conclusion that probably she doesn't think about what she's done AT ALL. I mean she only remembers that she is mad at me and that I did something wrong, and she would never question this feeling, she would never think "maybe I went wrong a little?" NEVER.
Another reason came to my mind, which is: Maybe, due to the fact that most women are a little insecure, she thinks of an apology as a sign of weakness. I look at relationships around me and all I see is opponents (or even enemies) living together, I don't know why they call themselves "partners". They are always competing, who is right and who is wrong? He should apologize and she should apologize, He must talk to me first and she must talk first, I am giving more to this relationship than he/she is, etc...
Therefore, my friend, I don't know if we could blame women here. I don't think this mentality of placing blame on a certain gender (or any other part of the society) is going to result any positive solutions. These accusations only push people apart and complicate the relationships with the opposite sex very much. I am not saying that what you said is not true at all, I am just saying that complaining is probably not going to make a remarkable difference.
Just an opinion I liked to share, stay safe :D
I think its difficult for a lot of people to apologize, because it means admitting that you did something wrong.
Personally, I have no problem apologizing. If I've made a mistake, if I've hurt someone, if I've said something or acted in a way that I shouldn't have... then I apologize.
As for your Hallmark example, I would suggest it might have something to do with either some men having a difficult time putting an apology into words; or some women expecting more than just a verbal apology---a romantic gesture, like flowers and a card, for example (not that I'm saying that its good that some women expect that, but there are some that do and Hallmark wants to capitalize on it).
a real woman apologises for the mistakes that she's made and she does that as soon as she recognises her fault. self centeredness is the sign of an immature female regardless of her age, she's selfish and clearly doesn't know how to operate in the relationship dynamic. stereotypes don't make it any easier on the man because men are projected as this thoughtless, unfeeling character and even if they were right they have to apologize because of the insensitive way they went about handling the situation. My suggestion to you is to find a woman that can apologize and not a girl who can't live past stereotypes
good answer, but what about hallmark? what's their excuse?
hallmark is lame. handmade is the way to go cause it shows you actually put time and thought into it.
Most women apologies are either hugs, sex, or worst "I'm sorry that you feel hurt", and that is NOT an apology. That's basically shifting the blame on you for being upset. An apology is owning up to what you did wrong.
I apologized to my boyfriend the other day cause I bitched at him for not answering his phone when I was calling him the other day. Apparently in his rule book it was OK for him not to answer because he was at a family event and I was at a golf tournament. He was ridiculized for not having girlfriend present at the family event. However, he did not make it clear to me that I had to be at that event with him and that it was very important for him. He did not accept the apology for not being at the event though. So its a myth. Girls apologize.
Notice how you're kinda blaming him though. How does bitching at him for not answering his phone has to do with him being ridiculized "for not having girlfriend present at the family event"? Did he 'bitch' at you for not being there?
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In my experience women almost always apologize--eventually. However it may not be for a good long while until after the fact.
At work, my boss keeps track of everything you did wrong and puts it on a little list. And she doesn't address any of it with you until the list has grown to like half a page long, even if it includes sh*t from months ago. In my experience, most women work this way. They let everything that bugs them build up until they have a list of things a mile long they need to have it out with you about, and it isn't until after that's sunk in for a bit that they apologize. There are exceptions however.
You have a point and you are on to something. I learn to never apologize either. There is no women worth apologizing for. If a woman thinks I did something wrong, I won't apologize...even if I did something wrong, I do it on purpose and I still won't apologize. And if a woman leaves, she shouldn't been sleeping with me in the first place. That is her bad lol.
Yeah... I was where you are a year ago. The one-nightstand phase will pass eventually. But it's true that men should not say they are sorry in most cases the woman wants them to because it's just their weird testing.
I'm not afraid to sacrifice my pride if it means remedy-ing a problem. usually you gain some trust and respect in return.
I don't believe this problem runs just in females. I think it's a matter of maturity, because I know several males who are just too stubborn and afraid of damaging their ego by apologizing.
Um what wierdos are you apologizing to? I apologize to my boyfriend well he usually makes me since I'm seldomly never wrong lol. No seriously if I'm in the wrong I'll own up to it as should he. And the whole card thing is because guys are stupid enough to buy them. I don't want a freaking card, just tell me it's a waste of a tree.
I have asked this very question before more from the perspective of why are guys always the ones who HAVE to apologise? I.e. why are they always the ones who fcuk things up?
And it's very simple - because the women don't usually screw things up like the guys do. Not nearly as often anyway. Apologising usually means saying how you feel about something or someone and we all know how bad at that men are at expressing their feelings
I pity the man you are with, if any!
In my experience it's just the opposite. Every relationship I've ever had (except for my very first girlfriend when I was 16, that one I'll take the blame for) ended because the girl screwed me over. The last major relationship I was in ended because she was seeing another guy on the side for two months and picked Valentine's Day of all days to come clean to me about it.
I was in a situation with a guy for the last 3 years where I got completely screwed around and verbally abused by this person on a number of different occasions and never got an apology for any of it or an explanation. I had previously messed up and had been very open with him and explained things to him and told him how I felt and continued to make repeated efforts to connect with him so we could fix things but all I got was aggressively being puished away. This was someone I knew quite well
and trusted with my life pretty much. However he never ever apologised for any of the hurt he caused me or ever even tried to explain why he was so angry for so long or why I had to deal with his anger and verbal abuse for ~3yrs. His wrong doing in this grossly outweighed mine becuase he knew clearly how I felt and yet he still apologised for none of the many times he wronged me. So I'm sorry, but my experience is very different. And I was very very hurt and still struggle to deal with the mess
Cause, like men, they're stubborn. Very few humans in general are mature enough to admit they were wrong or apologize for it. It's sad ;\
i am sorry, on behalf of every girl who has ever wronged you without apologizing. I'm sorry for anything that's been done to you or that you wish had been done to you. ;) I'm also sorry that in your experience, girls are so pathetic. it's not universal.
Not a true statement. I once apologized to my boyfriend 108 times for the same mistake. It was a big mistake but still even with little things I will own up to it (usually lol unless I'm just messing around with him)
They usually always try to frame it that EVERYTHING is the guy's fault
are you kidding? from my experience, guys are the ones who can't apologize cause of their pride
“My opinions may have changed, but not the fact that I'm right.” <-Females mentality. :d.
I find they apologize later on if anything. Never the way I want them to apologize. Who knows, maybe I am a jerk.
Often I do want to apologize, but I believe in certain situations that even if I did apologize, the person wouldn't accept it or wouldn't think sorry is enough.
It's one of those mysteries nobody knows. Up there with Atlantis and the Yeti.
Good luck finding out.
Usually I am the one apologizing my boyfriend hardly ever says it because of his pride..
Because the majority of guys have become "sorry" guys where if anything happens they will apologize so as not to upset the woman.
Never say sorry erase that from your vocabulary.
not us but mostly guy's...
i am apologizing with my man...even if he's mistake
then how can you ask that question?
if you love her, it must be because she's nice and amazing, and worth it, we were put on this earth to be taken care of, and sadly we are made so be overdramatic and stubborn.
wow, you were "put on this earth to be taken care of?" remind me NOT to marry a woman who shares that point of view! talk about "one -way" thinking. might as well admit yer a gold digger now!
you guys were born tougher than that good luck finding a girl who doesn't want to be taken care of
your a douche it has ablsolutly nothing to do with money. why are you men for the most part biologically stronger and have thicker skin? women are just overly sensitive and stubborn therefore can't say sorry first
what are you saying? your ability to bench press determines your ability to say sorry when you hurt someone?
like I said if you love her she must be nice, did I not say that ^. she wouldn't be hurtful in the average scenario unless she is a hurtful person
there always right lol
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