*Chicks before dicks
I thought this expression was more about friends coming first before relationships (not whether or not women are ACTUALLY hoes).
Balance is important, you want to make sure you have a stable relationship with both, without over extending yourself. In your teens and early twenties, or when you're not serious about a relationship, then I suppose it doesn't make sense to prioritise them.
My Dad travels a lot for his job, when he comes back, his no.1 priority is to see my mum and me. He doesn't see friends all that often. Maybe once a month at at dinner parties and playing sports together.
When you share your life with someone, it's important to spend time together and put work into the relationship, but the value of having same sex friends should not be underestimated. You should have time for both.
Very true!
Wrong, it is inefficient to have time for both friends & life with someone.
I always put my friends first because they laid the foundation of love for others in my heart... a significant other just adds to it.
Hoes before bros, no matter how old I get.
That's perfect ❤
So I've 3 brothers and no sisters but grew up close to my Mum, so I spent my early years in Male company but with a close female role model. So in adult life I spend most of my time in male company but always have a number of female friends I'm very close too (my old boss used to describe it as my harem lol). So whilst I probably spend more time in male company I'd be lost without my harem! So with me it's Bro's alongside Hoe's lol.
That's cool. So when you're in a relationship, do those people come first?
In a relationship I kinda love the Bonnie and Clyde (me and you against the world metaphor), so I love that attitude of just the two of us, but the actual reality is that I've a lot of friends who mean a lot to me, so whilst I'd always be on my partners team I try and make sure that's not to the detriment of my friends, and to be fair the majority of the people that I've dated have got on with my friends so it's never been a massive issue.
I dont know where I stand on this one. 2 of my best bros are hoes
Well that really throws a wrench in the hole idea...
Your telling me... For real though my 2 best friends are the bitch sisters... big bitch and little bitch... and little bitch is the biggest bitch... go figure
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You know, I heard people saying that in, oh, I don't know, middle school or something. Then I heard it again at college. Off thing about hearing it was each time and place you heard it, the person saying it had no worries about making that decision. Either they had no friends, no women, or both.
Friendship is very important, reproducing is more important. Unless it is an imperative situation the needs of my woman come first.
@joeblow123 Yes, she cheated on me repeatedly while I was in the Marines, then again while I was working for the Army corps of engineers. I cheated back to "get even" That kind of stuff hurts, the leaving me part not so much as the cheating.
Took a while to find priorities and get my head on straight after that. It isn't something I'm ashamed to admit if you're trying to catch me in some kind of gotcha moment or something. We were both fucked up kids in school dating, I joined the military to make life better and survive.
What about you joe, has all of your life been sunshine and roses?
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First of all, thank you for your service. If it wasn't for vets America would be over. Done with.
No "gatcha" moment. I was just pointing out that perhaps your views of women were setting you up for failure. I don't claim to be a genius when it comes to women but I do try to help with advice when I can.
"What about you joe, has all of your life been sunshine and roses?"
I would like to truthfully say "yes" but I can't.
I've been kicked in the teeth by women, misled used abused and got to a "fuck this bullshit" point. I was the good guy that helped women and got kicked in the teeth for his trouble. I took women at their word and found everything to be bullshit. In 1992 when the Bobbitt incident happened and women were laughing I was deeply offended. It was during that time everything I ever liked about women died and in a way, I did too. The Phoenix that arose was Masculist in nature: Men's Rights Activist politically and man going his own way culturally. MRA and MGTOW respectively. I have put both into practice ever since.
@joeblow123 I'm truly sorry to hear that man. I can't remember all that time in the 90's too well, I think I would have been 6 then.
I think we've all been drug through the mud, and yeah, on my end I thought about cutting lots of people, or parts of my life off from those experiences. Not worth the pain. Sometimes it's more difficult to feel as deeply or allow myself to after getting burned badly. It's easy as hell to get angry, to close people off. It's a lot more difficult to try again.
Having said that I don't know where my limit is, when I would stop trying because, well, experience has taught me it will end in sorrow. I'm not there yet, so I'll keep on keeping on.
Again, sorry to hear you got pushed past that point man.
Balance, balance is key. Just putting your partner first may end with you not having any other friendships. And putting friends first can easily create fractures in your relationship. Trying to balance it as much as possible. And maybe even do some activity togheter with your friends and partner can be fun. Like go bowling sometime or for dinner. Not always though, sometimes you just wanna be with your friends/partner
I think the saying talks about loyalty. With time, we all need to move on with our lives, fall in love and build a family
I don't think this should or even can apply to everyone (female version of of it being chicks before dicks) so in certain and many cases, it is definitely an antiquated idea to follow suit. It's all up to what you value most and it's also possible to have a good balance or a "homie-hoe-stasis".
But it can resonate with other people. Like for me, I have negative zero interest in 'partner pursuit' so following any variation of "chicks before dicks" would just be the normal.
It depends on the individual and what they want to value more or value equally in their life.
I have never heard of this before... The way I interpret this, it's more likely to apply to high school age, where people have nothing else to do than school and friends. After you grow up your list gets filled up with other responsibilities and for many people the majority of those "bros" (or however you want to call them) disappears because everyone follows his own path and you drift apart.
Also for more mature couples it is possible to meet with friends all together, it's not like high school where bringing your boyfriend would be frowned upon or seen as selfish. You learn to get along without being awkward.
These jargons and relationships between brotherly/sisterly bonding between the same gender have been around for years.
What changed are core romantic relationships and marriages which was alway a primary relationship once one becomes an adult to form a healthy family.
You always put your love ones (husband/wife/children first).
You always help your immediately family next.
Then you have your best friends that you help as well.. but never put your family second before your brotherly/sisterly love once you have formed a family unit.
Yes and in all honesty these words mean nothing to a married couple or those that take their relationship as serious as marriage because a man’s and woman’s priorities will change when they’re in that level of commitment. For example for married or a equally committed man or woman it would be more important to spend Christmas/New Years with their partners rather than being on a night out with friends.
Bros for hoes and chicks before dicks is more of a term for adolescents and young adults I’d say.
As a woman, it works both ways? I guess?
Every boy/young man I’ve dated have came and gone unless they pop up again after a year or so of no communication to try to use me as a rebound I’m assuming (for sex or monetary gain etc) but my true friends have never left.
I just turn the other cheek.
Fuck all of you shitty bro hoes out there, (yes, man friends that have pitted women against each other for entertainment or set tried to set their “bro” up with their crush’s friend as a distraction for them to make a move on them).
Men are incredibly immature and fickle at this age, younger ladies.
Focus on yourselves now and let the dating bullshit come later.
Fuck no it’s always bros before hoes. Guys need to stick together especially nowadays when the world is so anti male. Any man that chooses women first you know is desperate and just lacks self respect. The majority of guys on Gag are like that. So desperate they rate any girl that posts a pic a 10/10 that’s pathetic
The first time I actually heard this was from a middle aged man actually, I have never heard it from my peers. Honestly I don't think most guys support the idea, that guy was the only one of any age I have heard it from and he was one of the biggest jerks I have ever encountered. I know that hearing such things must be distressing for women because they want to feel safe with their partners and in their nightmares if a guy likes his male friends too much he might take a blind eye if one of his friends sexually harasses her.
I don't think that's what "bros before hoes" actually means. If your friend is hitting on your girl he isn't your friend. He's not even adhering to "bros before hoes".
@EnglundUberAlles Most of the time yeah, but there are always exceptions. In the Book of Esther in the Bible the plot is set up when King Ahasuerus tries to force his queen to strip naked in front of his male nobles. Arguably women form monogamous relationships partly in order to be shielded from random lustful men. The fear (whether real or imagined) that a boyfriend or husband's friends might try to hit on her and that he will side with them over her is terrifying.
Yes, terrifying but completely paranoid and unrealistic.
"homie-hoe-stasis" Lol
Re: Update: You are correct. It's not saying anything about the character of the women or that they're sexually promiscuous or anything like that. It's just a crass slang term, and in this context it's used in a joking tongue-in-cheek way. Those who are uptight won't get it.
To answer your question, though, ... Yes; when people are already married, then the rule no longer applies. Your primary loyalty is to your spouse. (Genesis 2:24, Mark 10:7-9) (Those verses were referring to separating from your parents, specifically, but friends are also "family", so...)
How naive.
@Shiningtempest Dost thou have a disagreement, sir?
I've learned that sacrificing my bros for a girlfriend is the worst sin I could commit.
@Shiningtempest It depends on the level of seriousness of the relationship.
I've decided to prioritize my bros over girlfriend regardless of the level of seriousness of the relationship.
I think it evolves - I am in a peculiar situation but my main group of friends are people I have known since school 30 plus years ago (I don't find it odd but other people seem to think it is quite rare) - Anyway the friendships are probably quite tight but probably not that tight as they were especially at my age with a lot of my friends now parents - We are friends with the partners and know the children but in reality what person is not going to priortise their children, their partner , their domestic situation over friends - They may even have settled down friends for grown up stuff but they still find time to be silly with us.
Do I miss the tightness of teenage/early adult friends , they were great but they were of a moment now I need a different dynamic but thankfully my friends are still there for messy Friday nights once a month getting drunk, laughing at the same things we have been laughing at for over 35 years.
In certain ways it definitely should be friends before others. For example, if my SO doesn’t like my best friend (whom is practically my sister and been through for everything with me) and it causes a lot of problems, I would let them go. To me, my best friend is not irreplaceable but a boyfriend is.
On the other hand, there needs to be respect. If you have plans with your SO, keep them. Don’t ditch them for your best friend and vice versa. Both need to be treated as important people in your life.
So in certain aspects, yes, I believe you should choose your friend but in others, it should be equal.
First of all, I love that meme, that's hilarious, secondly it depends if they are just 'hoes' or not. The way guys used to use referred more to hook-ups or hook-ups that became girlfriends because they didn't have anything else going on. In that case, it's a person they hardly know, who they only really meet up with for sex and for that person to decide what they are/aren't doing & when, is just stupid. They hardly even know each other, barely a part of each other lives.
On the other hard, if it's a long term girlfriend or a fiance or a wife who this person has chosen to make a commitment to & stay with & maybe shares a house/kids/costs/responsibilities with that's a different story. Then it's just whinging because of not wanting to do what needs to be done or letting friends, who aren't going through the same things the couple are, be made more important than the person they're sharing their life with. I agree with the meme, there's gotta be balance. Game day, then groceries.
I have always been for my friends before some potential fake partner. I know that those friends will be there for me even when the shit hits the fan and they accept me for who I am.
Everyone sadly doesn't have those that they can trust, but those that do, never let them go for some... Romantic partner. If your partner doesn't trust your friends that were there first, then your partner is suspect.
I think everyone goes about this stuff differently though, however I do know that we as people make time for the people we care about and the things we want to do.
I think if you truly love someone, the concept of "bros before hoes" is irrelevant - your SO should be the person you love the most and want to spend most of your time with anyway. However, this does not mean you should spend ALL your time together. I think it's very important to maintain friendships and spend time apart from the person you're in a relationship with. You should love them, but not be completely dependent on them.
I prefer friends over SO 100% of the time.
I only like girls but other than that. Saving sliverman comes to mind... I think it's important if there is a good healthy bond between friends it should be saved. dating or marriage should not impact that but involvement and time spend with each other is important to consider. But my friends will not hold me back from dating
My friends will always be more important to me than someone I hook up with
But what if it's someone that you've started dating and it has turned into a long term relationship.
That's a different story. Would depend on the circumstances.
All i know is i don't believe in Hoes but that is their idea
what they want do with their life and no judgement on my
part. I have new view in life , when i meet a new Lady in
my life i will not engage in anything sexual , it will be strictly
love between us : Cuddling, Snuggling , Hugs, Kisses cause
i believe when couples jump into sex , it ruins a good thing
My bros will always come first because if some shits happens with your girl they are the only one you can rely on.
Now it doesn't mean to say there is no balance it's just that naturally you will be more often with your girl but don't ever put your bros aside and every people you love on earth should know you got friends and a wife you can't let down any of them even if life tries to put you more into your girl's side.
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