Balance is important, you want to make sure you have a stable relationship with both, without over extending yourself. In your teens and early twenties, or when you're not serious about a relationship, then I suppose it doesn't make sense to prioritise them.
My Dad travels a lot for his job, when he comes back, his no.1 priority is to see my mum and me. He doesn't see friends all that often. Maybe once a month at at dinner parties and playing sports together.
When you share your life with someone, it's important to spend time together and put work into the relationship, but the value of having same sex friends should not be underestimated. You should have time for both.
Very true!
Wrong, it is inefficient to have time for both friends & life with someone.
I always put my friends first because they laid the foundation of love for others in my heart... a significant other just adds to it.
Hoes before bros, no matter how old I get.
That's perfect ❤
So I've 3 brothers and no sisters but grew up close to my Mum, so I spent my early years in Male company but with a close female role model. So in adult life I spend most of my time in male company but always have a number of female friends I'm very close too (my old boss used to describe it as my harem lol). So whilst I probably spend more time in male company I'd be lost without my harem! So with me it's Bro's alongside Hoe's lol.
That's cool. So when you're in a relationship, do those people come first?
In a relationship I kinda love the Bonnie and Clyde (me and you against the world metaphor), so I love that attitude of just the two of us, but the actual reality is that I've a lot of friends who mean a lot to me, so whilst I'd always be on my partners team I try and make sure that's not to the detriment of my friends, and to be fair the majority of the people that I've dated have got on with my friends so it's never been a massive issue.
I dont know where I stand on this one. 2 of my best bros are hoes
Well that really throws a wrench in the hole idea...
Your telling me... For real though my 2 best friends are the bitch sisters... big bitch and little bitch... and little bitch is the biggest bitch... go figure
Opinion
68Opinion
You know, I heard people saying that in, oh, I don't know, middle school or something. Then I heard it again at college. Off thing about hearing it was each time and place you heard it, the person saying it had no worries about making that decision. Either they had no friends, no women, or both.
Friendship is very important, reproducing is more important. Unless it is an imperative situation the needs of my woman come first.
@joeblow123 Yes, she cheated on me repeatedly while I was in the Marines, then again while I was working for the Army corps of engineers. I cheated back to "get even" That kind of stuff hurts, the leaving me part not so much as the cheating.
Took a while to find priorities and get my head on straight after that. It isn't something I'm ashamed to admit if you're trying to catch me in some kind of gotcha moment or something. We were both fucked up kids in school dating, I joined the military to make life better and survive.
What about you joe, has all of your life been sunshine and roses?
@razelove
First of all, thank you for your service. If it wasn't for vets America would be over. Done with.
No "gatcha" moment. I was just pointing out that perhaps your views of women were setting you up for failure. I don't claim to be a genius when it comes to women but I do try to help with advice when I can.
"What about you joe, has all of your life been sunshine and roses?"
I would like to truthfully say "yes" but I can't.
I've been kicked in the teeth by women, misled used abused and got to a "fuck this bullshit" point. I was the good guy that helped women and got kicked in the teeth for his trouble. I took women at their word and found everything to be bullshit. In 1992 when the Bobbitt incident happened and women were laughing I was deeply offended. It was during that time everything I ever liked about women died and in a way, I did too. The Phoenix that arose was Masculist in nature: Men's Rights Activist politically and man going his own way culturally. MRA and MGTOW respectively. I have put both into practice ever since.
@joeblow123 I'm truly sorry to hear that man. I can't remember all that time in the 90's too well, I think I would have been 6 then.
I think we've all been drug through the mud, and yeah, on my end I thought about cutting lots of people, or parts of my life off from those experiences. Not worth the pain. Sometimes it's more difficult to feel as deeply or allow myself to after getting burned badly. It's easy as hell to get angry, to close people off. It's a lot more difficult to try again.
Having said that I don't know where my limit is, when I would stop trying because, well, experience has taught me it will end in sorrow. I'm not there yet, so I'll keep on keeping on.
Again, sorry to hear you got pushed past that point man.
Balance, balance is key. Just putting your partner first may end with you not having any other friendships. And putting friends first can easily create fractures in your relationship. Trying to balance it as much as possible. And maybe even do some activity togheter with your friends and partner can be fun. Like go bowling sometime or for dinner. Not always though, sometimes you just wanna be with your friends/partner
I think the saying talks about loyalty. With time, we all need to move on with our lives, fall in love and build a family
I don't think this should or even can apply to everyone (female version of of it being chicks before dicks) so in certain and many cases, it is definitely an antiquated idea to follow suit. It's all up to what you value most and it's also possible to have a good balance or a "homie-hoe-stasis".
But it can resonate with other people. Like for me, I have negative zero interest in 'partner pursuit' so following any variation of "chicks before dicks" would just be the normal.
It depends on the individual and what they want to value more or value equally in their life.
I have never heard of this before... The way I interpret this, it's more likely to apply to high school age, where people have nothing else to do than school and friends. After you grow up your list gets filled up with other responsibilities and for many people the majority of those "bros" (or however you want to call them) disappears because everyone follows his own path and you drift apart.
Also for more mature couples it is possible to meet with friends all together, it's not like high school where bringing your boyfriend would be frowned upon or seen as selfish. You learn to get along without being awkward.
These jargons and relationships between brotherly/sisterly bonding between the same gender have been around for years.
What changed are core romantic relationships and marriages which was alway a primary relationship once one becomes an adult to form a healthy family.
You always put your love ones (husband/wife/children first).
You always help your immediately family next.
Then you have your best friends that you help as well.. but never put your family second before your brotherly/sisterly love once you have formed a family unit.
Yes and in all honesty these words mean nothing to a married couple or those that take their relationship as serious as marriage because a man’s and woman’s priorities will change when they’re in that level of commitment. For example for married or a equally committed man or woman it would be more important to spend Christmas/New Years with their partners rather than being on a night out with friends.
Bros for hoes and chicks before dicks is more of a term for adolescents and young adults I’d say.
As a woman, it works both ways? I guess?
Every boy/young man I’ve dated have came and gone unless they pop up again after a year or so of no communication to try to use me as a rebound I’m assuming (for sex or monetary gain etc) but my true friends have never left.
I just turn the other cheek.
Fuck all of you shitty bro hoes out there, (yes, man friends that have pitted women against each other for entertainment or set tried to set their “bro” up with their crush’s friend as a distraction for them to make a move on them).
Men are incredibly immature and fickle at this age, younger ladies.
Focus on yourselves now and let the dating bullshit come later.
Fuck no it’s always bros before hoes. Guys need to stick together especially nowadays when the world is so anti male. Any man that chooses women first you know is desperate and just lacks self respect. The majority of guys on Gag are like that. So desperate they rate any girl that posts a pic a 10/10 that’s pathetic
The first time I actually heard this was from a middle aged man actually, I have never heard it from my peers. Honestly I don't think most guys support the idea, that guy was the only one of any age I have heard it from and he was one of the biggest jerks I have ever encountered. I know that hearing such things must be distressing for women because they want to feel safe with their partners and in their nightmares if a guy likes his male friends too much he might take a blind eye if one of his friends sexually harasses her.
I don't think that's what "bros before hoes" actually means. If your friend is hitting on your girl he isn't your friend. He's not even adhering to "bros before hoes".
@EnglundUberAlles Most of the time yeah, but there are always exceptions. In the Book of Esther in the Bible the plot is set up when King Ahasuerus tries to force his queen to strip naked in front of his male nobles. Arguably women form monogamous relationships partly in order to be shielded from random lustful men. The fear (whether real or imagined) that a boyfriend or husband's friends might try to hit on her and that he will side with them over her is terrifying.
Yes, terrifying but completely paranoid and unrealistic.
"homie-hoe-stasis" Lol
Re: Update: You are correct. It's not saying anything about the character of the women or that they're sexually promiscuous or anything like that. It's just a crass slang term, and in this context it's used in a joking tongue-in-cheek way. Those who are uptight won't get it.
To answer your question, though, ... Yes; when people are already married, then the rule no longer applies. Your primary loyalty is to your spouse. (Genesis 2:24, Mark 10:7-9) (Those verses were referring to separating from your parents, specifically, but friends are also "family", so...)
How naive.
@Shiningtempest Dost thou have a disagreement, sir?
I've learned that sacrificing my bros for a girlfriend is the worst sin I could commit.
@Shiningtempest It depends on the level of seriousness of the relationship.
I've decided to prioritize my bros over girlfriend regardless of the level of seriousness of the relationship.
I think it evolves - I am in a peculiar situation but my main group of friends are people I have known since school 30 plus years ago (I don't find it odd but other people seem to think it is quite rare) - Anyway the friendships are probably quite tight but probably not that tight as they were especially at my age with a lot of my friends now parents - We are friends with the partners and know the children but in reality what person is not going to priortise their children, their partner , their domestic situation over friends - They may even have settled down friends for grown up stuff but they still find time to be silly with us.
Do I miss the tightness of teenage/early adult friends , they were great but they were of a moment now I need a different dynamic but thankfully my friends are still there for messy Friday nights once a month getting drunk, laughing at the same things we have been laughing at for over 35 years.
In certain ways it definitely should be friends before others. For example, if my SO doesn’t like my best friend (whom is practically my sister and been through for everything with me) and it causes a lot of problems, I would let them go. To me, my best friend is not irreplaceable but a boyfriend is.
On the other hand, there needs to be respect. If you have plans with your SO, keep them. Don’t ditch them for your best friend and vice versa. Both need to be treated as important people in your life.
So in certain aspects, yes, I believe you should choose your friend but in others, it should be equal.
First of all, I love that meme, that's hilarious, secondly it depends if they are just 'hoes' or not. The way guys used to use referred more to hook-ups or hook-ups that became girlfriends because they didn't have anything else going on. In that case, it's a person they hardly know, who they only really meet up with for sex and for that person to decide what they are/aren't doing & when, is just stupid. They hardly even know each other, barely a part of each other lives.
On the other hard, if it's a long term girlfriend or a fiance or a wife who this person has chosen to make a commitment to & stay with & maybe shares a house/kids/costs/responsibilities with that's a different story. Then it's just whinging because of not wanting to do what needs to be done or letting friends, who aren't going through the same things the couple are, be made more important than the person they're sharing their life with. I agree with the meme, there's gotta be balance. Game day, then groceries.
I have always been for my friends before some potential fake partner. I know that those friends will be there for me even when the shit hits the fan and they accept me for who I am.
Everyone sadly doesn't have those that they can trust, but those that do, never let them go for some... Romantic partner. If your partner doesn't trust your friends that were there first, then your partner is suspect.
I think everyone goes about this stuff differently though, however I do know that we as people make time for the people we care about and the things we want to do.
I think if you truly love someone, the concept of "bros before hoes" is irrelevant - your SO should be the person you love the most and want to spend most of your time with anyway. However, this does not mean you should spend ALL your time together. I think it's very important to maintain friendships and spend time apart from the person you're in a relationship with. You should love them, but not be completely dependent on them.
I prefer friends over SO 100% of the time.
I only like girls but other than that. Saving sliverman comes to mind... I think it's important if there is a good healthy bond between friends it should be saved. dating or marriage should not impact that but involvement and time spend with each other is important to consider. But my friends will not hold me back from dating
My friends will always be more important to me than someone I hook up with
But what if it's someone that you've started dating and it has turned into a long term relationship.
That's a different story. Would depend on the circumstances.
All i know is i don't believe in Hoes but that is their idea
what they want do with their life and no judgement on my
part. I have new view in life , when i meet a new Lady in
my life i will not engage in anything sexual , it will be strictly
love between us : Cuddling, Snuggling , Hugs, Kisses cause
i believe when couples jump into sex , it ruins a good thing
My bros will always come first because if some shits happens with your girl they are the only one you can rely on.
Now it doesn't mean to say there is no balance it's just that naturally you will be more often with your girl but don't ever put your bros aside and every people you love on earth should know you got friends and a wife you can't let down any of them even if life tries to put you more into your girl's side.
People who take it too seriously, like most here, are probably really fun at parties.
It's not to be taken literally, it means just means that you should never disregard your friends, to not be blinded by love, etc.
Your guy friend can't provide you anything. The right woman can provide you with children and a family. Friends don't last forever but your family will always be there for you. Find the right woman and make one.
Why find the right woman when I have a loyal bros who got my back?
@Shiningtempest Overwhelming majority of friendships don’t last forever
If you believe that majority of friendships don't last, then so be it.
@Shiningtempest I'm just being honest. They don't last. Friends can get married and start their own family then they wont' have the time for you anymore. Friends may also separate due to moving to others states or getting new friends. there's really no binding contract to stick together either.
Even if that's the case, my friends will come up with creative methods to keep in touch with me if they want to keep in touch.
@Shiningtempest That's something you would believe when you're 24. Just wait til you're 35, it would be a completely different story. Live and Learn.
As long as me & my friends finds creative ways to keep in touch, friendships will continue for longer periods of time.
@Shiningtempest Keeping in touch is not the point of being friends. Friends are people who are there help you when you need assistance. Your friend 200 miles away cannot help you when you get evicted or your refrigerator doesn't work or if there is a flood in your area. They also won't constantly visit or check up on you when you're 65 to see if you're doing ok. This is what you're family would do. When your friend has his own family, he's not gonna have the time to keep meeting up with you anymore. I think you're just too young to understand life. Give it 10 more years and, your opinions will change.
You're naive if you think bros & friends can't provide me anything.
@Shiningtempest Come back to this thread in 10 years and you will realize I'm right. All your friends won't give a crap about you by then. They're too busy with their kids and families.
My friends care about me more than some lousy love interest.
@Shiningtempest That's only for right now though. The real people who have your back is your family.
Wrong, bond with my loyal bros means lot more to me than a family.
@Shiningtempest Obviously you've got no life experience. Live and learn
Then, I will prove you wrong that my friends will be there to help me when I need help.
@Shiningtempest Lets see about that in 10 years.
You are unaware about the true power of the bond between me and my bros.
The older I become the more I actually see this phrase in play. Especially with the 55 and older.
Really? I've heard it less and less!
Yes, I have been strangely hearing more often lately. Not a phrase I have ever used... seems tacky.
I agree with the idea of a homie-hoe-stasis as in the photo you provided. A guy's close friends cater to different needs than a romantic partner does, but they're both important.
Wrong, a guy's close friends are more important than any relationship.
I have never believed in "bros before hoes", for me it has always been partner before everyone else.
I personally believe that people who value friends over their partners still have some growing up to do, and I would never date someone like that.
I get the sentiment. Dont abandon your friends when you're in a relationship.
Besides a good bf/gf is going to allow you to see your friends or hang out with them
It's not realistic as you get older. Sometimes your SO would have to come first especially if you see them as your future spouse.
Wrong, a loyal friend is more fulfilling than SO.
Women are generally going to be much more closer to their significant other than their friend. That's not even close. So the saying doesn't make sense other than to maybe high school age girls.
It’s bros before hoes meaning random bitches you hook up with when you’re young. Your wife isn’t a hoe she’s family therefore she comes first.
Wrong, friends comes first.
Oh hell no. Women will come and go, but a REAL MAN is the REAL PRIZE.
For most things, you just need to mind your own business - stay out of other peoples affairs.
And NEVER, and I mean NEVER EVER kiss and tell. Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.
this saying doesn't go against wives or girlfriends, only for women that aren't important to someone such as hoes, or women you just meet, believe it or not, there's people that change up as soon as they meet someone.
You need friends or at least some other guys who share same interest like you. Focusing entirely on your partners is bad idea, because it makes you dependent. Dependency isn't a good situation for relationship stability.
It's not a matter of getting older, but of being more mature and realizing that these juvenile pathetic "rules" are to be left in junior high where they belong.
That is a very good pun.
I do think you should remember your mates if you get into a relationship... if you have mates and get into a relationship.
I don't know of it - what does it mean? Bonding with male friends more than with female, or?
When I was a teenager, I heard this expression amongst my friends who got a boyfriend and were suddenly nowhere to be seen. Girls would say "hoes before bros" and the opposite for males.
Oh, thaaaat.
Well, you kind of have to go individual in any case (the friends only ever made things significantly worse for me. Most, anyway - I'm thinking being back in Sydney just over that (but try to afford a house or daycare there - basic ingredients for a family!))
I always thought it was said at bachelor parties and it dies there too
It is still friends before SO. having one person in your life can be very sad, but a bunch of friends are great.
Well your partner supposed be your nest friend as well as loner so in away it still is bro before hoes
Once your married and especially if you have kids it is.
Still need to spend ample time with the boys. Iron sharpens iron and my wife doesn’t drag deer or shot gun brews so...
Haha, I've never really subscribed to that. Why would I choose a guy over girl that I could call my own at the end of the day if I'm not gay. doesn't make any sense. Lol
I’d never put the same sex over some dick. Same sex can't give me marriage/kids etc
If you allow them to, most women will destroy the relationships a man has with his friends. Those friends are super important to guys and they should protect their relationships with them over their relationship with their woman. If the woman has a problem with that. then she is not a good woman in the first place.
haha the update is funny but for me i do prefer balance cause my friends are like family as well so i want to be connected to them as much as well almost as much as my girlfriend
Just a lame way for a guy to keep his friends because he's probably going to be the last one to find someone that would bother to be in a relationship with him.
Also a way to establish a pecking order with a stupid rhyme
You need to chose your battles. Don't abandon friends just because a new dick / hoe enters the scene but if you meet a good partner have their back.
And eat Tacos
@Snickermarstwix always
This code was meant when two friends are fighting over a girl, they follow this code and both leave her, or like when someone leave a girl and his friend want to be with her... but not like anything between not being in relationship or love a girl.
I believe that in the ancient Germanic institution of Männerbund. Its separate to marriage. its a 'band of men' literally. Of course your wife is not a hoe though.
I don't know. It does jot apply to significant others. Random bar girls, yes it applies.
Once married you will slowly shed all your friends that she doesn’t like and/or approve of while keeping all of her own (including her guy friends)
Wow, that sucks.
@Shiningtempest I've seen it again and again. It happens slowly but she will throw obstacles in front of your friendships-while insisting on her "girls night out". Dinner parties will be for her crowd as will outings with other couples. I have friends who cannot do anything unless the entire family-wife and kids-come along. I don't mean road trips, etc. I'm just talking about a night out locally. I happens slowly-like water eroding rock-but water always wins.
If any girlfriend wants to throw obstacles in front of my friendship, I will take that obstacle down.
I base loyalty off of the relationship itself, and that has nothing to do with gender.
it’s always been an immature idea. so right always sure. bro’s before bows is just stupid ass and childish.
Nah it believe bro’s before hoes. A girl or 2 mins of sex should not break up a bond of to friends that was established before she came in the picture
I have never ascribed to either of those postulates!! LOL
It is just something dudes say to the guys who can't get the girl. Tbh you can't choose you need both but if the girl tells you choose you dump her. I think it is easier to find new dudes to connect with than girls.
I think homie-hoe-stasis is definitely the way to go.
A smart man avoids hoes
So for my it is Sopranos before Bros
NO.
Although there are soy males who become slaves to the pussy...
males who have their balls in check will never let a female control their life.
So if she says "I don't like when you hang out with..." as they always do, a guy who isn't a bitch will put her in her place and not allow her to change who he is or remove his male friends from his life.
The homie-hoe-stasis = the key to the perfect life. lol
Jerk.
That saying is for buddies! It means dont let a one nighter get in the way of our friendship, has nothing to do with relationships
Men will always enjoy spending time with just their male friends. Having said that, using a phrase like this is very childish, and should never come out of an adult's mouth.
It isn't childish.
You can also add your opinion below!
Girl's Behavior 
Guy's Behavior 
Flirting 
Dating 
Relationships 
Fashion & Beauty 
Health & Fitness 
Marriage & Weddings 
Shopping & Gifts 
Technology & Internet 
Break Up & Divorce 
Education & Career 
Entertainment & Arts 
Family & Friends 
Food & Beverage 
Hobbies & Leisure 
Other 
Religion & Spirituality 
Society & Politics 
Sports 
Travel 
Trending & News 
Most Helpful Opinions