That’s all true in some cases, not all. One huge barrier to fixing this communication gap is by people lumping all men/women into one basket. As if there’s a magic formula that, once mastered, will make you a pro at effectively communicating with everyone.
In reality, the only way to succeed is actually putting in the work/effort to get to know each guy/girl you’re interested in and finding out what their love language is. That’s how it’s always been and the only difference nowadays is that people turn to articles written by people with zero experience and think of it as good advice. 😒
Nonverbal communication is a learned skill that we need to navigate the social world. So I don’t think it should be made simpler. There are cultures who look down upon a person as simple because they need to be told everything.
What should be done is that both communicate her feelings and if her non verbal behavior shows that she’s upset but unwilling to talk about it, he says “I can see you’re upset. I want to talk about it when you’re ready and I’m willing to listen”.
She has to speak up otherwise do she have a huge need to grow as a person with her communication skills how to communicate what they need to get through to someone.
Many gives signals that is even hard to see for people that read people as a open book. Signals that mostly is in that person's mind and they think they gave them.
She doesn’t need to speak up. If she doesn’t want to talk about it, she doesn’t. Men need to be perceptive enough to understand nonverbal language because otherwise you look stupid.
Approach each other and make your intentions clear from the start. This is not a chess game. Once men and women let go of that false mindset, communication will actually improve.
First thing here: Not all women are like that. The women that are typically have low self esteem and/or self confidence. You attract these women for a reason, why do you think that is? Also, there are a lot of men who beat around the bush and for the same reasons.
Unfortunately, you cannot change another person no matter how hard you try.
Communication in general needs to improve for both men and women. Communication is not just something important. It is vital in everything we do in life.
There are more factors then that, that causes what you mentioned. Attitude on both sides that also creates two genders against each other. mostly from/for one side. Now does it get very big and complex. not gonna dive in to that or make some shortened simplified version since it can't be done since it will be misunderstood.
Sadly I believe it is to do with the stupidity of the Body Language and MeToo movement as well. What a person likes an other won't. But how to know. I had a friend who told me about her PMT, and her racist views. But her actions showed that she was not as racist or her PMT was not as bad as she claim.
No sugar-coating. Say it as it is and avoid metaphoric references. Remember... more the words, the more to get confused. The idea is to get the point across the FIRST time!!
In my experience, the more talk the more mis-communication and misunderstanding. It is just like a homily or sermon... short, to the point and everybody gets it. But everybody's experiences are different. Too many times too many words can come across the wrong way, but it just depends on the amount of complexity. In some instances, more words with more complexity just doubles the complication, and sometimes vice-versa. It can vary based on the degree of how quickly a person can pick up and comprehend. Just varies from one individual to the next.
What you people aren't getting is a part of what I am trying to say is there is such a thing as using a lot of the WRONG words as well. Start using the wrong words and don't realize it, and it isn't going to help matters. Put that in to what I'm saying and you should get it!!!
I either dont say anything or i am honest and direct. I mean when a guy want to date me and ask me what I like or dislike about guys, and i answere him that i like tall, not whorish, and nice guys but he gets mad at me. I dont understand that. What did I do wrong now?
It's usually the ignorant and inexperienced men who will get upset - unless you were being a bitch to them when you told them this or when you rejected them.
It's kind of the same thing when I have rejected women, but even if I do it nicely, it's usually their friends that come after me...
As a men I think all these things about women are completely illogical And it appears that this is the main issue with lack of understanding between men and women
If you are referring to me and my opinion. It's not directed at a specific person... so no not directed at you. What I am saying is that I'd say the majority of questions male and female are asking question that can be answered by the person that they are involves or not involved with if they would just ask. But those questions are brought to this setting and well... as some of the opinions and answers to questions are fantastic and I commend those that answer from the heart and with thought. On the flip side well let's just say.. umm well nothing. Communication between man and woman will always be a hot button topic. Just talk to one another.
Sorry, i was on my phone when I wrote that and it went into the Update field by mistake. I didn't think you were. I was replying back to kaylaS91 Hers is much more cryptic.
Women's can be nagging and demanding anyhow... Never the less... Yes we like to know expectations and goals to be able to achieve them to make y'all happy... That is... If we like you
Can never happen , impossible , as the genders are wired very differently from the moment of conception. The genders are as different and opposite mentally , as physically.
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It's called compromise, some adults are able to do it but sadly from this question it seems that most young adults have no idea what that is.
That’s all true in some cases, not all. One huge barrier to fixing this communication gap is by people lumping all men/women into one basket. As if there’s a magic formula that, once mastered, will make you a pro at effectively communicating with everyone.
In reality, the only way to succeed is actually putting in the work/effort to get to know each guy/girl you’re interested in and finding out what their love language is.
That’s how it’s always been and the only difference nowadays is that people turn to articles written by people with zero experience and think of it as good advice. 😒
Is this your indirect way of saying something about me?
Nope
But if you try to get to know an individual person then they accuse you of being "too attached too quickly."
@Jamie05rhs
Not true in all cases..
@kaylaS91 You tagged my name but you didn't post a comment.
Oops; nvm. Sorry, Kayla. That was my bad. The page did not refresh.
Nonverbal communication is a learned skill that we need to navigate the social world. So I don’t think it should be made simpler. There are cultures who look down upon a person as simple because they need to be told everything.
What should be done is that both communicate her feelings and if her non verbal behavior shows that she’s upset but unwilling to talk about it, he says “I can see you’re upset. I want to talk about it when you’re ready and I’m willing to listen”.
She has to speak up otherwise do she have a huge need to grow as a person with her communication skills how to communicate what they need to get through to someone.
Many gives signals that is even hard to see for people that read people as a open book.
Signals that mostly is in that person's mind and they think they gave them.
She doesn’t need to speak up. If she doesn’t want to talk about it, she doesn’t. Men need to be perceptive enough to understand nonverbal language because otherwise you look stupid.
Those cultures are dumb. The honest, direct Germanic countries have it right.
No one cares
Approach each other and make your intentions clear from the start. This is not a chess game. Once men and women let go of that false mindset, communication will actually improve.
Well said.
Women don't like that, though.
Try it sometime and you'll see what I mean: "Hi! I'm Jltakk. Wanna marry me?"
First thing here: Not all women are like that. The women that are typically have low self esteem and/or self confidence. You attract these women for a reason, why do you think that is? Also, there are a lot of men who beat around the bush and for the same reasons.
Unfortunately, you cannot change another person no matter how hard you try.
Then again she could be just manipulating you.
My boyfriend addresses when I’m indirect which is annoying but I’m more thoughtful about it now
That's great 👌
Communication in general needs to improve for both men and women. Communication is not just something important. It is vital in everything we do in life.
There are more factors then that, that causes what you mentioned.
Attitude on both sides that also creates two genders against each other. mostly from/for one side.
Now does it get very big and complex. not gonna dive in to that or make some shortened simplified version since it can't be done since it will be misunderstood.
Men need to open up and communicate better. And women need to stop being judgmental.
Sadly I believe it is to do with the stupidity of the Body Language and MeToo movement as well.
What a person likes an other won't. But how to know. I had a friend who told me about her PMT, and her racist views. But her actions showed that she was not as racist or her PMT was not as bad as she claim.
No sugar-coating. Say it as it is and avoid metaphoric references. Remember... more the words, the more to get confused. The idea is to get the point across the FIRST time!!
More words = more confusion? Not necessarily.
Sometimes. But sometimes more words are necessary because of more complexity.
In my experience, the more talk the more mis-communication and misunderstanding. It is just like a homily or sermon... short, to the point and everybody gets it. But everybody's experiences are different. Too many times too many words can come across the wrong way, but it just depends on the amount of complexity. In some instances, more words with more complexity just doubles the complication, and sometimes vice-versa. It can vary based on the degree of how quickly a person can pick up and comprehend. Just varies from one individual to the next.
Yep, agreed on that.
I'm with Amanda on this one.
I mean more words are always helpful.
What you people aren't getting is a part of what I am trying to say is there is such a thing as using a lot of the WRONG words as well. Start using the wrong words and don't realize it, and it isn't going to help matters. Put that in to what I'm saying and you should get it!!!
I either dont say anything or i am honest and direct. I mean when a guy want to date me and ask me what I like or dislike about guys, and i answere him that i like tall, not whorish, and nice guys but he gets mad at me. I dont understand that. What did I do wrong now?
It's usually the ignorant and inexperienced men who will get upset - unless you were being a bitch to them when you told them this or when you rejected them.
It's kind of the same thing when I have rejected women, but even if I do it nicely, it's usually their friends that come after me...
because "nice" is incredibly vague and "tall" is an uncontrollable factor
So should i lie?
No, I'd say be more specific about the "nice" part. Can't say much about "tall"
Ah ok get it.
Mutual respect and understanding is the best we can do I guess. I agree with this 100% tho
Just be straight forward when we ask. Anything more is viewed as deceitful.
As a men I think all these things about women are completely illogical And it appears that this is the main issue with lack of understanding between men and women
From what I gather from GAG is that most men and women don't communicate at all.
If you are referring to me and my opinion. It's not directed at a specific person... so no not directed at you. What I am saying is that I'd say the majority of questions male and female are asking question that can be answered by the person that they are involves or not involved with if they would just ask. But those questions are brought to this setting and well... as some of the opinions and answers to questions are fantastic and I commend those that answer from the heart and with thought. On the flip side well let's just say.. umm well nothing. Communication between man and woman will always be a hot button topic. Just talk to one another.
That's rather long. Sorry.
Sorry, i was on my phone when I wrote that and it went into the Update field by mistake. I didn't think you were. I was replying back to kaylaS91 Hers is much more cryptic.
Got ya... no worries.. you are one of the fine people that give good thought provoking opinion and answers.
Thank you so much.
You are so very welcome.
Close the gap by not making it about gender. It’s more about mutual respect.
If men just did what we want without having to be told, we wouldn't have an issue at all 😂😂😂
Women's can be nagging and demanding anyhow... Never the less... Yes we like to know expectations and goals to be able to achieve them to make y'all happy... That is... If we like you
Can never happen , impossible , as the genders are wired very differently from the moment of conception. The genders are as different and opposite mentally , as physically.