Do you think cheating women and cheating men are the same?

[JessieBellll]

In my opinion cheating women look worse to me for some reason, they seem more slutty and in my experience they are worse people.

Yes

No

[DWornock]

I believe overly slutty girls and women have psychological issues. It is not that they are inherently bad people, only that their behavior is out of their control and they might be helped with therapy.

I'm not sure that men cheat when they have sex. And, if it is cheating, it is 100 times worse when women cheat. That is because no man has ever convinced his partner that a child he had with another woman was her biological child. However, that is what women do when they cheat. And, just having a few minutes of sex, pales to insignificance compared to his partner lying to him and him spending a lifetime raising another man's child. At a minimum, it is the difference between 15 minutes and 21 years.

Although cheating harms a woman's partner, it is good for our species. That is because typically women cheat at or near ovulation when they seek the best available genes for their eggs. And, although very few women can marry a superior male, the superior males are more than willing to have sex with them. The advantage of cheating (at least 1 to 10 percent per generation) is so astronomical over 1,000 or more generations that women that did not cheat to select the best available genes for their eggs are not our ancestors. Therefore, even though they deny it, almost all women cheat or else they are willing to cheat.

Women invest 10 months of pregnancy and a dozen or more year in raising a child,. Therefore, they must be very selective. However, men need only invest 15 minutes to impregnate a fertile female so there is no benefit to being choosy. Our ancestors are men, that impregnated the most females.

For all of the foregoing reasons, attractive and superior men that have many sexual partners benefits our species, and women that are very selective and have far fewer sexual partners benefits of species.

[HedwigInABox]

By that logic, wouldn't it be a good thing for a woman to cheat if she has the chance to sleep with a guy that's genetically superior over her partner and become his child to guarantee better offspring?

[JessieBellll]

Alright, I disagree they have psychological issues, they just like sex and are more free than they were before.

If that was true then majority of women today have mental problems which is pretty wrong.

[DWornock]

@HedwigInABox Obviously it is harmful to her partner and greatly limits his passing on his genes to future generations. However, it benefits our species and that is why it is universal for all species or else cuckoldry wouldn't have evolved to such a great extent. Here is an interesting article:

Cuckoldry is the fate of males the animal kingdom over. In study after study of species after species, the idea that females are naturally devoted to their one and only mates have fallen to growing evidence that many of the world's supposedly monogamous females, including human females, are guilty of their share of indiscretions.

Yet in spite of these findings, many biologists, especially male biologists, held out hope that some males might be immune to this kind of treatment by their mates -- particularly the exemplary, hard-working fathers.

But research reported in the Proceedings of the Royal Society shatters that dream. Although the diminutive males do everything to care for the young of their raucous, beefy females, these males are cuckolded. Under some circumstances, the researchers found, males had a 74 percent chance of raising another male's offspring, a mistake in the evolutionary race to perpetuate one's own genes.

“It's about as bad as it can be for these guys,” said Dr. Peter Wrege, a behavioral ecologist at Cornell University who wrote the paper with Dr. Stephen Emlen at Cornell and Dr. Mike Webster of the State University of New York at Buffalo. “A male stuck with doing all the parental care should have a very high certainty of paternity, but in fact, that's not the case.”

Dr. Patricia Adair Gowaty, behavioral ecologist at the University of Georgia at Athens, who described herself as having made a cottage industry of writing about mating behavior from the female perspective, called it “absolutely fascinating,”

“The females are really in the catbird seat,” Dr. Gowaty said. “They seem to be getting whatever they want.”

[james_d0007]

agree men are more prone to do this then a women. That's why most of the society terms women as whore or sluts when they do this stuff. I think its wrong though both should be judged in the same way irrespective of their gender.

[Anonymous]

Cheating is cheating no matter which way you look at it. If you think that a woman cheating is worse than a man cheating, you're sexist.

The only difference between the two genders cheating is the fact that women generally cheat because they are lacking something at home. Whether it be intimacy or the sex is just shit. Men will cheat when they can because sex isn't readily available to them like it is with women. Women can walk down the street, pick out and guy and more than likely fuck him. Men have to go out of their way, put up a front and jump through hoops because women are more picky, usually.

Either way, if you cheat you're fucking scum. I dont care what excuses you have because they will never be justified in my opinion.

[David_Kek]

madam, you are a sexist

[israelisevil]

This very inacurate women can get sore too easily suck at sex too.

[Opinion Owner]

@israelisevil what does being sore have to do with anything that I had said? And did I claim that women dont suck at sex? Nope. Clearly didn't. Stop trying to read between the lines to find conflict when there clearly isn't any.

[Shellyworld]

Sexists, whom chooses the answer no.

[SjE78]

I couldn't agree with you more, clearly those who say no are most likely cheats or would cheat themselves...

[Brainsbeforebeauty]

Yes they're the same... Both cheating, lying trash... Your gender don't excuse cheating whether you're male or female... A cheater is a cheater is a cheater, WTF does gender have to do with it? There's LOTS of MEN and WOMEN who WOULDN'T cheat, let's not make excuses for THOSE who do, or say it's worse when one gender does it... It's wrong when ANYONE does it, PERIOD!!

[sejla]

Same. We've just been taught that women are supposed to be the more caring gender

[hellionthesagereborn]

Well yes form a logical stand point. However its worse (or feels worse) when a woman does it in that for the man he is (if we are going the traditional relationship route) giving his resources to her. That is he is providing a house, providing food, he is protecting her and taking care of her so if he cheats its one failure among several sucess's. For women however, they largely only have one responsibility, don't cheat so when they do, that is a monumental failure because they had less responsibilities yet still failed to meet them. I think that is why even though the actions are the same it seems as if its worse when women do it (not suggesting a woman should ever stay with a cheating man, she shouldn't, not saying its okay for a man to cheat, its absolutely not, only that we see it as worse for this reason).

[CubsterShura]

I WISH the one and only responsibility for a woman was to 'not cheat', life would have been a million times easier.

[hellionthesagereborn]

@CubsterShura Well it is so life is easier (in the west anyway). They are no longer expected to cook or clean or obey their husbands or even have sex with him, even suggesting she should is considered "sexist". yet for some reason expecting him to slave away to provider for her, do all the physical labor and to protect her at his expense is just him not being a deadbeat (and he is considered lazy if he doesn't do the cooking and cleaning too). This is the case for most societies to be honest, women just don't like to admit it because it would mean they would have to start contributing just as much as he does (which statistically is not the case (studies show not only is he providing the bulk of monetary gain (70% of global spending is done by women despite them being less then 30% of global earnings meaning she is spending all of her money and most of his), as well as showing that he statistically does slightly more work then her if we take into account paid, non paid work, and child rearing into account).

[CubsterShura]

I wish I wish 😂💀

[hellionthesagereborn]

@CubsterShura Well all of that was statistical data so it wasn't a "I wish" it was an absolutely this is the case as per multiple studies on the subject. In all likelihood you don't realize this because you are protected from it and have society telling you how much harder you have it when in reality that is the opposite. Society always caters to women, its our biological inclination (neotenous biological traits and things of that nature).

[CubsterShura]

Ok lmao

[israelisevil]

If my girl wasn't making money or at least trying to shed be out the house if she cheated she would be too.

[bamesjond0069]

Well men typically cheat when they just want more or varied sex. They don't do it to leave their girlfriend or wife.

Women typically cheat when they find a man they would like to leave their boyfriend or husband for.

Also its viewed differently. Men often prefer an innocent woman so by cheating she is now not viewed as innocent and therefore not seen as relationship material. When a man cheats, women often see it in some way as he's a desirable mate that other women want, which in a roundabout way often makes them feel like they have the prize.

This is why relationships often can survive a cheating man but not a cheating woman. So yes i think its completely different.

[knottywriter]

I think they are the same. I think the difference is men seem to be known for it, even though studies have shown that the cheating spectrum is pretty even in that regard. I see it like this... if women sleep with a lot of people, they unfortunately get degraded as sluts or whores, whatever. However, if men do the same thing, it's seen as some primal conquest and manly thing. The reverse of this is how it ends up with cheating. Men get the horrible name calling and what not, where a lot of the women either just aren't talked about or they were okay to get their needs met because their partner wasn't fulfilling them. Is it fair to treat either differently in these situations? No, but gender bias is very evident within every aspect if our society. Sad, but true. Each are the same but one side get vilfied while the other side gets a pass. Clearly, this is not how everyone feels of course, but it's a snapshot of the society we've become.

[Altree]

Men tend to have a higher temptation towards cheating, but it really is no different between men and women as far as how bad it is. However Im of the mind that if my girlfriend cheats on me and is honest about it and is genuinely sorry and apologetic, I would probably be pretty quick to forgive. Everyone has problems and messes up on something. Cheating is a pretty big one, but its not beyond moving past if the person is actually upset that they did it and is sorry for it. (I know I went a bit off topic, sorry bout that)

[Elsa143]

Yes both are wrong.
No excuses.
Men cheat because they don't give AF about commitment and they're manwhores.
Women cheat because either she's a gold digger or a slut.
A good woman or a man will simply breakup if their emotional needs are not being met.

[Gravit1]

All cheating is Sin and carries the same punishment, whether men or women. It always takes two to tango, so for every cheating guy there is a cheating woman, though that is 95% accurate. Most females will say men are worse and most males say females are worst. God says everyone has sinned and fallen short of his Glory, man, woman, or child. God will judge everyone to how they lived their lives, stealing a chocolate bar is still sinful as adultery repentance and accepting Jesus is the only way to salvation. We've all lied, stolen, cheated, hated, and blasphemed. Without Jesus we all would receive Hell. People only change given a reason, Jesus is the only Good reason.

[Inexpensivefurniture]

I think society treats them differently, but yes they are the same. Both betray their partner's trust for their own selfish gain.
If a man cheats, I hear nothing but excuses for him, usually blaming his partner ("she must not keep him satisfied") or nature ("men aren't biologically programed for monogamy"). Both of which are bullshit excuses that conveniently let him off the hook.
But when a women cheats, all the blame is put on her immediately.
But they are the same

[BeenThereLovedIt]

My experiences have said the polar opposite, but hey we all believe what we want to believe.

[NickCharm]

Its worse for women to cheat because its easier for them to do so. Its "Choice vs. Chore". For women getting laid is a choice, for men its a chore. Women have far more opportunities. Additionally, when men cheat its for variety, when women cheat it is more likely preliminary to her breaking up with you. In fact, when a women cheats on a guy she has already decided she has broken up with him, she just hasn't gotten around to informing him. A real cruel one will let the cheating serve as the notice he is dumped. And there is also the paternity thing others have alluded to.

[CubsterShura]

Getting laid is a choice for women?

I wish dude, I could only WISH. My goodness it's 2020!

[NickCharm]

@CubsterShura In the US the fattest most repulsive women can get laid. Maybe not by Prince Charming but she can definitively get sex if she wants (just not with Leo DiCaprio or Brad Pitt). Not so for men. America is a prudish country.

[CubsterShura]

Am pretty sure no ordinary good-looking woman would get laid by Leo DiCaprio or Brad Pitt either.

[Bandit74]

I'm biased but I view a woman cheating as worse because she can trick a guy into raising the child of the guy she cheated on him with while a woman is never going to have to worry about that happening to her.

[JessieBellll]

That's valid

[Petra150]

But it's exciting in a way. I have much better sex with my hubby, but the excitement getting and other

[Petra150]

It's not nice to say or hear , but that's my experience

[Petra150]

It's more fun / exciting to cheat than be cheated on. But it's only cheating if you guy mind you cheating. Me and my hubby have a great agreement we bouth allow eachother to do what we want, as I'm the one who have used my freedom to get laid by other guys , he never minds

[Hurlyburly]

Cheaters are trash. Neither their gender nor the "reasons" they tell themselves to feel better change anything about that.

[guesswhoseback]

On a moral aspect they are equally shitty. But here is one big difference I often see that really pisses me off.

If a man gets caught cheating he’s got zero excuse or justification. He can’t just say he’s a sex addict and/or has a high sex drive to get a pass. Men generally are more impulsive sexually but we never get to use that as an excuse. He has to own up to his bullshit and face the consequences.

Some women (not all but a high percent) say “oh he made me feel special” or “my boyfriend/husband deserves it” or some other bullshit. No you fucking cheated and the fault is on YOU. Plain and simple. No amount of emotions and mental gymnastics is going to absolve you of what you did.

Both sexes need to be held “equally” for their transgressions. Gender equality and also means equality for being a responsible adult.

[guesswhoseback]

Also I define cheating as any consensual contact with the genitals. If it goes to that point then it’s the point of no return.

However there are different gradations of cheating. Staring at someone from the opposite sex, “emotional” infidelity, kissing someone, etc. All of that is bad however it can be forgiven depending on the circumstance. But all out sexual contact is the point of not return (or forgiveness) for me.

However I know some women have this weird thing where they are more damaged from a guy having an emotional connection with another woman vs. him having meaningless sex with her.

[Chittychittybang]

I know a lady who was beaten by her husband for years. She cheated, gained the courage to leave and married the other guy. In some cases, people have every right to cheat.

[DJB72]

Not sure there's a difference. Usually someone cheats because they are missing something in the relationship. If both partners are prepared to work at the issue then it's rarely impossible to overcome the original issue. The cheating is usually a symptom. And cheating women are no worse than cheating men.

[weysally]

that can depend, I. E. sex in a relationship could be not so good, with a woman if she falls for a man that sex is good she doesn't bother about her spouse, but a man will take sex and go, its the other side of the relationship that is important to him

[Kaazsz]

I think we cheat for different reasons. Men cheat because they had the chance to fuck someone hot, or just the chance to fuck someone in general. And he doesn't care about being faithful i guess.

Women cheat because they found someone they think will be better in bed than their current man. So make sure you make your woman cum gentleman or she will find someone else to do it.

[AD240pCharlie]

Yes. While there are different reasons people cheat on their partner, and some of them may or may not be more common for one gender than the other, none of those reasons are valid excuses.
Unless your partner is abusive, you're a shitbag if you cheat on them.

[FriendlyEnigma]

Absolutely. No matter what cheating is cheating, no matter who it is. Of course i get there are people in absolutely shit relationship (toxic, abusive, etc.) But still if you can build up enough courage to sneak and lie to a partner, you can build up the courage to safely cut off your ties to that person

[Espresso-Grande]

Both are a betrayal of trust. So both are equally as bad in my opinion. Infidelity is a painful experience, regardless of your gender. The pain of betrayal doesn't lessen just because you're a certain gender. It causes trust issues for both genders.

[Sakura-san]

Cheating is cheating doesn’t matter if it’s a man or a woman!

[Grond21]

Men and women are not the same. People like to disagree with this these days, but it's true.
Psychologists know this. So do evolutionary biologists.

And that's why in their papers you can read that when men cheat they are More frequently doing it out of pent-up frustration or some distraction, but not an emotional connection. Whereas the vast majority of times when women cheat it's an emotional connection

[CubsterShura]

Logically and rationally they are equally bad. Sure both genders have different psychology and whatnot but doesn't make the magnitude of cheating any worse for one of them.

[KrakenAttackin]

I agree cheating women are worse. It all comes down to biology. If a woman is a cheater than a man can never be sure if the children she bears are his or some other swinging dicks. With a man, he may father a child with another woman but the woman never has doubt about paternity (unless she takes a lot of cock).

[HedwigInABox]

Have you ever heard of paternity tests?

[KrakenAttackin]

@HedwigInABox Yes, but the point is we are hard wired to be concerned about paternity and in many countries (like France) paternity testing is OUTLAWED to protect whoring women... go Feminism.

[HedwigInABox]

So let's say you don't live in the only country that bans paternity tests, a man can absolutely be sure whether his kids are actually his by taking the test. So in almost every country a guy technically doesn't have to raise another dudes kids if he has the brains to get an paternity test. Especially if his wife cheated.
And the law doesn't exist to protect women. It exist to protect kids. They are seen as the most important partie by the law. More important than the mother and father. So their right of an intact family is above the right of the parents to know who the actual father is. It's a terrible law and I don't agree with it but it was not made to protect women. Even though they definitely benefit from it.

[CubsterShura]

So basically childless couples, or people on birth control shouldn't have to care if their partners are cheating cuz it does not matter as long as babies aren't made 😂😂😂

[KrakenAttackin]

@HedwigInABox Actually you are wrong. Inost western countries, including the U. S., the non-biological "father" is compelled to pay child support until he proves the child is not his. Proving paternity is an expensive process whereby the non-father has to retain an attorney and do several filings with the court. During this time the non-father can be JAILED for not paying the support. Once the papers are processed the non-father can finally be released.

Does the whoring mother face any penalties? Nope. She goes off scott free. Paternity fraud should be a FELONY.

[HedwigInABox]

I agree that it should be a felony. I know in my country it costs around 200 Euros to get the test done. It's not that much in my opinion but I realize that it can be much more expensive in other countries.

[Alyssa11]

I don't think cheating is exclusive to a gender but I do think that whoever cheats is scum.
Also, women cheating would usually have some emotional attachment, whereas the same can't be said for men all the time. Sometimes some men cheat just cause they want to have sex, no feelings towards it. But I believe women cheat for deeper reasons.

[Paolaa988]

Both are equally bad. The girl is a slut who goes from guy to guy and the guy is just a male whore who can’t keep his cock in his pants.

[Shamalien]

Women have more of a biological imperative to be loyal than men so it is more disgraceful in my opinion there’s a reason our culture has traditionally slut shamed women more than men. Women hold the whole culture together through their sexual selectivity, this is the only way to keep male sexuality in check for 90% of dudes. Both genders are equally immoral in cheating though, it’s the same wrong and I’ve no issue calling both sluts

[Hangry22]

Both are at the same level to me. A really low level

[Anon_deals]

Yes. Both genders cheat for the same and different reasons. The reason (s)? Well, it depends on the individual, not their gender. We really need to get rid of those man-made generalized traits. They're useless and dumb

[VanillaSalt]

Both are bad but for women the only thing they have is honor and respect for the man. Without these why date a woman. Meanwhile the things men bring are things like finance and protection.

[VanillaSalt]

Since you wanna downvote me tell me what do men want from women?

[CubsterShura]

Downvoted for the shitty logic that because men give women things like finance and protection that loyalty is somehow less important.

There are many reasons why your comment is problematic. I am not saying that you mean the following but it could easily imply:
- that as long as a man is financially providing it is ok if he cheats.
- that if the woman in the relationship is financially independent or maybe she's the breadwinner then she should be able to get away with cheating

Neither is true. It doesn't matter who earns how much and who provides for whom and all that shit. Cheating is wrong no matter what.

[VanillaSalt]

Math time... you have two people one has 3 duties the other has only one... let them both fail at one duty each... congratulations you had one job and you fucked it up!

[RandomLoser]

Cheating men just get sex.
Cheating women can commit paternity fraud.
Who different ballgame.

[JessieBellll]

So you think women are worse

[RandomLoser]

The consequences of women cheating are greater than men cheating because you can't be certain who she's pregnant with, you just have to take her word for it.

[ItsTheNephilim]

To me, a cheater is a cheater and everything bad, disrespectful, degratory etc that follows about the cheater is independent of their gender.

[Screenwriter]

Exactly. They think they're god's gift and can do what they like regardless of the people's feelings they hurt.

[hellionthesagereborn]

Because naturally only men cheat and never women. After all women are perfect and never ever harm men or betray them and act like they are gods gift to the world, by say acting like they are never in the wrong even though they are as likely to cheat as a man is but pretend like they are not.

[Screenwriter]

@hellionthesagereborn Nobody SAID THAT, Hellion. The ones who cheat male or female are equally bad.

[hellionthesagereborn]

How you wrote it implied at least to me that you were suggesting men think they are gods gift to women. IF not I rescind my comment.

[Screenwriter]

@hellionthesagereborn The THEY referred to the particular men we were referring to, not men as a whole. And my comment included MEN AND WOMEN. Cheaters are all the same. They think they are fabulous and they deserve to have as many people and as much stuff in their lives as they can fit! They're greedy. Why? Boy, that's a 800 page mental health tome.

[hellionthesagereborn]

Then my comment is rescinded. It seemed to be implying just men which is what I had issue with (because for some reason society likes to act as if only men cheat).

[Bat-Perv]

Generally yeah but the motivation is usually different. Men cheat to have sex with different women whereas women seem to cheat to find a new man.

[WesBrewer]

Cheating women and cheating men are both the trash at the bottom of the trash bin, all wet and the worst.

[laceyylove23]

yep, cheating is cheating, no matter what your gender is. if you cheat your an asshole

[TheorionMage]

NO ONE 'cheats' by themself, doesn't matter 'gay' or 'straight'...
the underlying motivators remain the same.

[RemoErdosain]

A cheater is a cheater, no matter the gender. Women have it easier, but it doesn't mean men are better for doing it. Cheaters are garbage

[oncpl]

Cheating is cheating, it has no gender distinction.

[serious]

Right.

[oncpl]

@serious Thanks.

[prince350]

Entirely. My brother was (probably still is) a lying cheating a-hole - not just towards his partner, but in general - that's all he was capable of.
The women that I have known to be that way - very similar, more or less useless trash (some had more capability as far as my opinion goes, but never used it/were happy to be sluts living in almost slum conditions)

[PizzaBittch]

Accidently selected "no".

But I meant to say yes, I feel like cheaters have a certain mindset whether it's being lonely or seeking revenge. Or just flat out being a shit person and cheat.

[JakeS00]

It goes both ways for sure. Whoever does it will be the person that looks bad and unfaithful either way. Just my look on it.

[Browneye57]

No, they're equally shitty. And the frequency by gender is pretty well equal as well. It's just that women are better liars so the stats are skewed to men. ;)

It takes two to tango.

[MecheD]

It’s ultimately the same it just differs from person to person.

[Anonymous]

Men tend to find sexual infidelity from their mates more harmful (from an evolutionary standpoint this is likely due to uncertainty around paternity versus no uncertainty around maternity) than women do on average, whereas women tend to find emotional infidelity from their mates more harmful (again from an evolutionary standpoint this would make it more likely that the mate would abandon the relationship and therefore support which a woman would need especially if she had small children).

[J2ohhhhh]

Cheating women are mostly females and cheating men are very likely to be males.

[Anonymous]

No dude it's just more normalized for guys n that's why you feel like that.
Also stop using the word "slut". It's embarrassing.

[RohitLakra]

A scum is a scum, no matter what gender he or she is. Mark my words you cheating women, your karma will come to haunt you. Rest in peace!

[Bananaman177]

Yeah, it's the exact same shit in my opinion.

[dudeinohio]

A cheater is a cheater... no one is worse than the other...

[allaboutyou2]

Again there is no difference, anyone who cheats is dishonest, disrespectful and selfish.

[Anonymous]

I don’t know about the misogyny. But I know that I have a friend who has cheated, and usually I would have never been ok with it, but after hearing her reason it was easier to understand why she did it.

[Gedaria]

Most people including me you expect it to be the guy who cheats. Just seems harder when it's a woman..

[Twalli]

Men are more likely to cheat, but still love you. If a woman is cheating, they generally want it to end

[Cutegirl04]

True

[msc545]

Nope. Cheating is cheating, although with women it somehow seems more serious, but then again I'm a guy, so...

[Anonymous]

I don’t want to be that guy but I believe women cheating is way worse.

[JessieBellll]

Why?

[Opinion Owner]

I don't know how to explain it. But I’m NOT saying that if a guy cheats it’s ok. It’s just different

[JessieBellll]

Alright

[SjE78]

a cheat is a cheat regardless of gender, and both are as bad as each other equally

[Anonymous]

At the end of the day, if they cheat, they cheat, and regardless of their gender I loose respect for them. However, I do believe that society has different opinions and reactions from men cheating compared to women.

[Guanfei]

Same for me. If you cheat, you're a despicable piece of shit.

[AmeerX]

They are at equal blame. I don't think a girl should be more blamed for cheating.